Can the repugs take the senate

[jack sommerset]

Without question the house will be republican but there are 37 seats up for grabs in the Senate tomorrow. They grabbed one earlier this year in Massachutes special election. Can they snag 10 more tomorrow?

Seeking re-elections
Democrats (12) Republicans (11)
Arkansas--Blanche Lincoln
California--Barbara Boxer
Colorado--Michael Bennet
Hawaii--Daniel Inouye
Maryland--Barbara Mikulski
Nevada--Harry Reid
New York--Chuck Schumer
New York--Kirsten Gillibrand (special election)
Oregon--Ron Wyden
Vermont--Patrick Leahy
Washington--Patty Murray
Wisconsin--Russ Feingold
Alabama--Richard Shelby
Alaska--Lisa Murkowski (defeated in primary, running as write-in)
Arizona--John McCain
Georgia--Johnny Isakson
Idaho--Mike Crapo
Iowa--Chuck Grassley
Louisiana--David Vitter
North Carolina--Richard Burr
Oklahoma--Tom Coburn
South Carolina--Jim DeMint
South Dakota--John Thune

Either quit/retired/lost in primary
Connecticut--Christopher Dodd
Delaware--Ted Kaufman (special election)
Illinois--Roland Burris
Indiana--Evan Bayh
North Dakota--Byron Dorgan
Pennsylvania--Arlen Spector (defeated in primary)
West Virginia--Carte Goodwin (special election)
Florida--George LeMieux
Kansas--Sam Brownback
Kentucky--Jim Bunning
Missouri--Kit Bond
New Hampshire--Judd Gregg
Ohio--George Voinovich
Utah--Bob Bennett (defeated in primary)

[Giuseppe]

No. The Senate won't be taken. Boxer running into the safe zone was a harbinger.

Now the Dems have been landing flight after flight of attorneys & agents into Nevada since this morning in order to save his seat as well. Even at 16% reported unemployment in the state Reid will still hold there going away at 53%-48%.

We got the plane away from Pelosi. It's still gridlock for the next two years, but, Hussein Obama is on notice. He's next.

[Wild Cobra]

Love to see Wyden ousted, but I'm not betting on it. Too many damn libtards in Oregon that like that demonrat.

If Wyden loses... it may be the death of democrats as we know them.

[CosmicCowboy]

I see Republicans picking up 8 seats at best. They aren't gonna let Harry Reid lose. They will keep recounting till he wins and SEICU services their voting machines.

[coyotes_geek]

Can't see the repubs getting +10. +7/+8 sounds more realistic.

[jack sommerset]

They aren't gonna let Harry Reid lose. They will keep recounting till he wins and SEICU services their voting machines.

That's what I'm thinking. But if he loses that might be the 10th seat.

[Crookshanks]

I'm not so sure about Harry Reid. The Justice department has taken notice of the allegations of voter fraud and this race is going to be watched very carefully. Angle has about a 4% lead going into today - and it seems she has the momentum.

It would be great if the Republicans can take the Senate, but I think it's a long shot at this point. But we'll have to see how the night unfolds - if the republican wave is strong enough, it might just affect some of the races in the west.

[Yonivore]

In the words of a very famous man, "Si se puede!"

Will Conservatives take back the Senate? Maybe, but it'll be tight.

[jack sommerset]

In the words of a very famous man, "Si se puede!"

Will Conservatives take back the Senate? Maybe, but it'll be tight.

I will laugh my fucking ass off and drink silly for a week if Obama loses both. :lol

[Yonivore]

I will laugh my fucking ass off and drink silly for a week if Obama loses both. :lol
I'll have to wait until the weekend for silly drinking but, I will laugh my ass off and lift a glass of Scotch for the occasion.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'll be watching the returns at Lyle Larson's "watch" party...

[CosmicCowboy]

I am SO hoping Zero Rodriguez and Charlie Gonzales get beat...I hated that I couldn't vote against Zero because of where I live...

[Cry Havoc]

Crofl at Crookshanks suddenly showing up again in the political forum.

Front running is hilarious when it's about sports, but it's even more laughable in politics. :lol

[Ashy Larry]

They can do some damage though. Americans have very short attentions spans. We're impatient people. Just a couple years ago, people were pissed at G Dub and Cheney over their shit and now just two years later, they're pissed again. So they're going to put the people back in control who fucked up four years ago??? LOL

[Yonivore]

They can do some damage though. Americans have very short attentions spans. We're impatient people. Just a couple years ago, people were pissed at G Dub and Cheney over their shit and now just two years later, they're pissed again. So they're going to put the people back in control who fucked up four years ago??? LOL
These aren't the same people...just ask Karl Rove.

[Ashy Larry]

These aren't the same people...just ask Karl Rove.


:rollin:lmao

If I ever see that bastard in the streets alone, I will risk jail or prison time kickin' the shit outta him........

[Yonivore]

:rollin:lmao

If I ever see that bastard in the streets alone, I will risk jail or prison time kickin' the shit outta him........
Why? What'd he do to you?

[Ashy Larry]

I think Boxer is safe in California .... something about business people running the state that doesn't sit right with Californians, even though we elected a movie start as governor. Can vote for a woman (Meg Whitman) who will spend 150 million dollars of her own money for a gig that pays a couple hundred grand. There's something behind that because she sure as hell wouldn't do that in the business world. Only in politics can that shit happen.

[Ashy Larry]

Why? What'd he do to you?

lol .... please don't play dumb. as much shady shit he's been involved in and got away with. We need to go V for Vendetta on all their asses.

[MannyIsGod]

GOP is going to gain seats but they're not going to get control.

[Ashy Larry]

GOP is going to gain seats but they're not going to get control.


That may take a while .... where are all the Indies ??? This two party shit is killing us.

[Crookshanks]

Crofl at Crookshanks suddenly showing up again in the political forum.

Front running is hilarious when it's about sports, but it's even more laughable in politics. :lol

I'm in the political forum every day - I just don't take the time to post much anymore because it's a waste of time and energy to argue with the resident libs. I won't change their mind, and they won't change mine - so it's not worth the bother.

[Cry Havoc]

I'm in the political forum every day - I just don't take the time to post much anymore because it's a waste of time and energy to argue with the resident libs. I won't change their mind, and they won't change mine - so it's not worth the bother.

Exactly my point. You view this as a competition to see who can "win" against the other person, rather than a forum for open discussion.

I listen to every reasonable viewpoint on the forum, even from people like Parker2112. I don't expect to convince anyone to completely agree with me, nor is that my goal. But talking here is a nice way to -- insults aside -- see other points of view and debate various issues.

Do go on "not posting" here though. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Repugs don't need to take the Senate. They've been obstructing it for 4 years.

[Crookshanks]

Exactly my point. You view this as a competition to see who can "win" against the other person, rather than a forum for open discussion.

I listen to every reasonable viewpoint on the forum, even from people like Parker2112. I don't expect to convince anyone to completely agree with me, nor is that my goal. But talking here is a nice way to -- insults aside -- see other points of view and debate various issues.

Do go on "not posting" here though. :lol

Open discussion? I've been called the most vile and obscene names just because I had a different viewpoint. And I could care less about the viewpoints of many of the posters on here - I think they're nuts.

[Crookshanks]

Senate is not going to change hands - West Virginia was just called for the democrat. McMahon lost in CT and O'Donnell lost in Delaware - not unexpected. I thought the WV race would be closer considering Obama has less than 30% approval in the state - but the governor is very popular - and he prevailed.

[clambake]

Senate is not going to change hands - West Virginia was just called for the democrat. McMahon lost in CT and O'Donnell lost in Delaware - not unexpected. I thought the WV race would be closer considering Obama has less than 30% approval in the state - but the governor is very popular - and he prevailed.

didn't take fox long to dump that dumb broad.

[johnsmith]

Exactly my point. You view this as a competition to see who can "win" against the other person, \

:rolleyes Yet you are the one calling her a "frontrunner".

[Yonivore]

Nope, Senate will probably remain D. But, if Manchin wants to be re-elected in 2012, he'll have to vote with Republicans anyway.

Now, if we can bump Reid out of his seat.

[Crookshanks]

Nope, Senate will probably remain D. But, if Manchin wants to be re-elected in 2012, he'll have to vote with Republicans anyway.

Now, if we can bump Reid out of his seat.

Exactly - he won because he convinced people he was against everything Obama was for. So now, he'll have to vote accordingly if he wants to get re-elected.

I'll still consider it a good night if Dingy Harry loses his seat.

[Cry Havoc]

Open discussion? I've been called the most vile and obscene names just because I had a different viewpoint. And I could care less about the viewpoints of many of the posters on here - I think they're nuts.

And? I personally never have called you any names like that, and earlier tonight WC hit me with the "asshole" adjective. It happens. It happens in most forums, especially on the internet. You don't want to discuss it, and that's fine. I just was pointing out that I find humor that you happen to come around when Republicans are going to make gains.


:rolleyes Yet you are the one calling her a "frontrunner".

What? You aren't even making any sense. Find out what that word means before deciding I'm using it improperly.

[Wild Cobra]

I personally never have called you any names like that, and earlier tonight WC hit me with the "asshole" adjective.
Yes, I did. When you appear to purposely twist a clear meaning, it pisses me off.

[Cry Havoc]

Yes, I did. When you appear to purposely twist a clear meaning, it pisses me off.

Humor. That's your specialty, WC. You are a fantastic spin-artist. I wasn't even twisting your meaning, I was simply trying to make a point.

[Wild Cobra]

Humor. That's your specialty, WC. You are a fantastic spin-artist. I wasn't even twisting your meaning, I was simply trying to make a point.
Your point was made by assuming my previous words weren't said.

[Crookshanks]

I just was pointing out that I find humor that you happen to come around when Republicans are going to make gains.
Why is that so funny? I'm a conservative, and I'm happy tonight - so I'm going to be here commenting on the big Republican win. Isn't it just human nature to want to celebrate when your "team" wins?

[MannyIsGod]

Why is that so funny? I'm a conservative, and I'm happy tonight - so I'm going to be here commenting on the big Republican win. Isn't it just human nature to want to celebrate when your "team" wins?

So much of what is wrong with politics is right here in this post.

Your team should be the United States of America. This is a fact that has been lost to the vast majority of the voting public.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Why is that so funny? I'm a conservative, and I'm happy tonight - so I'm going to be here commenting on the big Republican win. Isn't it just human nature to want to celebrate when your "team" wins?

I'm happy because of Ill, Pensylvania, WV, CO, CT,DE,

I'm very happy...

[Cry Havoc]

So much of what is wrong with politics is right here in this post.

Your team should be the United States of America. This is a fact that has been lost to the vast majority of the voting public.

Exactly. It's not "us vs you". This is one nation. We are not enemies.

[Wild Cobra]

Exactly. It's not "us vs you". This is one nation. We are not enemies.
Yet Obama says so...

[Crookshanks]

So much of what is wrong with politics is right here in this post.

Your team should be the United States of America. This is a fact that has been lost to the vast majority of the voting public.

Nooo - I believe "my" team is what is best for America. Obama, Pelosi and Reed have clearly made this an "us against them" election. And I'm happy they are suffering a huge defeat.

[jack sommerset]

We are not enemies.

Not according to your boy.

hnnwJ1rgCnM

Barry and his gang have to go. Tonight is a good start!!

[Yonivore]

Exactly. It's not "us vs you". This is one nation. We are not enemies.
No, we're not enemies but, obviously, we have very different ideas of what is best for this country.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No, we're not enemies but, obviously, we have very different ideas of what is best for this country.

doesn't make them the right ideas either..

[Yonivore]

doesn't make them the right ideas either..
And, that's why we argue.

[Spurminator]

Obama, Pelosi and Reed have clearly made this an "us against them" election. And I'm happy they are suffering a huge defeat.

No, the two party system made it that way and you drank the Kool-Aid.

Congrats Team R!

[George Gervin's Afro]

Nooo - I believe "my" team is what is best for America. Obama, Pelosi and Reed have clearly made this an "us against them" election. And I'm happy they are suffering a huge defeat.


now the gop can share the blame..:toast

[Crookshanks]

Russ Feingold just went down in defeat - so that's another Republican pickup. But that one was not really unexpected.

[Cry Havoc]

Not according to your boy.

hnnwJ1rgCnM

Barry and his gang have to go. Tonight is a good start!!

Ever heard of paraphrasing?

[Wild Cobra]

Ever heard of paraphrasing?
Sure, but he can be so stupid when off the teleprompter. He speaks his mind, and it isn't pretty.

[ducks]

reid is in trouble...

[Wild Cobra]

reid is in trouble...
Wow...

What are the early numbers. That's great news.

[Wild Cobra]

Please don't do that. you got me all excited but at 11% reporting, he has 52% to Angle's 43%.

[Wild Cobra]

Republicans may still control the senate, and elect a leader.

The current count is 47 democrats and 44 republicans. Republicans need 6 more, as Lieberman is talking about switching parties. Sure, unlikely to get 6 of the remaining 7, but it's still possible.

[ducks]

Lieberman is practically a repubilcan anyhow

[MannyIsGod]

^truth

[La Mont]

they already have senate for years despite being facially outnumbered by democrats. some senators are registered as democrats but they also hate obama as much as everyone does, that's why obama's bills never got easily passed through the senate & house despite their majorities in both. the same democrats will continue to vote in favor of the republicans, and also the country and american people.

obama emasculated

[Crookshanks]

Toomey wins in Pennsylvania - another GOP pickup. And it looks like Kirk is going to win Illinois - so Obama's seat will go to the GOP. Senate is going to be pretty close to a 50-50 split.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck - was really hoping for Sestak win - in any event thats really not a GOP pickup considering the incumbent was a GOP member for a long ass time.

[Crookshanks]

Fuck - was really hoping for Sestak win - in any event thats really not a GOP pickup considering the incumbent was a GOP member for a long ass time.

Yeah - but Spector was a BIG RINO - and Toomey is a conservative. What's more important is the win in Illinois - because Kirk will be seated immediately and could have an effect on the lame duck Senate.

[jack sommerset]

LoL...Barrys senate seat falls to a repug

[Crookshanks]

Fox News has just projected that Dingy Harry will hold on to his seat - crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still think there was something hinky in the voting out there. The people in Nevada are really stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ducks]

fuck reid

[jack sommerset]

fuck reid

LoL...Guy has more lives than a cat.

[coyotes_geek]

reid hangs on.

[ChumpDumper]

Fox News has just projected that Dingy Harry will hold on to his seat - crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still think there was something hinky in the voting out there. The people in Nevada are really stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Angle was the shittiest candidate who actually had a chance this election.

Really the worst.

It was smart keeping Reid.

[Crookshanks]

Nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country - and it's mostly due to Obama's policies - I can't understand why the people in Nevada would re-elect Reid. I guess you just can't fix stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

Nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country - and it's mostly due to Obama's policies.Please explain how Nevada's unemployment rate is due mostly to Obama's policies.

[ducks]

there was voting fraud in nev

people reported they were republican they had reid punched on their ballots

[ducks]

Please explain how Nevada's unemployment rate is due mostly to Obama's policies.

please

[jack sommerset]

Nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country - and it's mostly due to Obama's policies - I can't understand why the people in Nevada would re-elect Reid. I guess you just can't fix stupid.

It's a head scratcher.

[ChumpDumper]

there was voting fraud in nev:lmao

That didn't take long.

[Nbadan]

No.

[Crookshanks]

Final polls showed Angle with anywhere from 2 to 4 percent lead - yet results right now are showing her losing by 7% - wonder what happened?

[MannyIsGod]

Margin of error happend.

[Crookshanks]

Margin of error happend.

It will be interesting to see what, if any, affect the number of candidates on the ballot had on the Senate race. Also, they can actually vote for "None of the Above" - I wonder how many people did that.

[Wild Cobra]

Fox News has just projected that Dingy Harry will hold on to his seat - crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still think there was something hinky in the voting out there. The people in Nevada are really stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, they aren't. I'm with you. I think fraud.

[Crookshanks]

No, they aren't. I'm with you. I think fraud.

I guess we'll have to wait and see - but if the numbers are within the margin of error, I don't think Angle will just concede.

[DMX7]

That stupid stupid bitch Sharron Angle got what she deserved.

Whore that she was going to get away without talking to the media and hiding her insane positions. I guess there won't be any chicken bartering in the senate, at least not literally.

[DMX7]

I hate Sharron Angle just in case you couldn't tell.

[DMX7]

But you probably could.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, republicans I think will have the last three uncalled seats.

In Colorado, it is favoring the republican. In Washington, the democrat is favored, but more of the eastern states that are primarily conservative are the majority of the unreported. As for Alaska, the democrat only had 25% last I saw. The write ins outnumber the republican 39% to 35%. However, I heard there are 160 write in candidates. Either way, it's a republican vote, which ever wins.

[ChuckD]

Tea Party may well have cost the GOP the Senate. Their crazy bitch candidates in NV and DE were non-starters. Reid was ripe for the picking, and the GOP had a strong former House member lined up for the Senate race in DE, and he was favored in the polls before The Witch took him out.

Laugh of the evening: there was a candidate named Ashijian running as an independent for Senator in NV. He or she finished behind "None of these candidates". Probably time to give up the political thing if you can't outpoll voter apathy. :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Tea Party may well have cost the GOP the Senate. Their crazy bitch candidates in NV and DE were non-starters. Reid was ripe for the picking, and the GOP had a strong former House member lined up for the Senate race in DE, and he was favored in the polls before The Witch took him out.
You're joking, right?

They have won 10 of the 15 senate candidates they endorsed so far, and 3 off them aren't decided yet. That's 83.3%

[ChuckD]

You're joking, right?

They have won 10 of the 15 senate candidates they endorsed so far, and 3 off them aren't decided yet. That's 83.3%

No, I'm not joking. The GOP failed to take the Senate, and the margin may well be two crazy fringe Tea Party candidates in states that had more competitive general election candidates to offer.

How many actual "Tea Party" Senate candidates were there, anyway? I'm not talking endorsements, I'm talking Tea Party new candidates. I can only recall the guy who knocked off the GOP incumbent in UT, the two crazy ladies, and Joe Miller. Endorsed candidates don't count for shit. They're just jumping on board, but they are Washington, through and through.

[MannyIsGod]

Taking over the Senate was a huge longshot. Its not fair to see anything cost the GOP the senate when they had such long odds at getting it to begin with.

[Wild Cobra]

Endorsed candidates don't count for shit. They're just jumping on board, but they are Washington, through and through.
We disagree on if they count or not. I say if they were endorsed, that they count. RINO's like McCain were not endorsed.

[baseline bum]

you're joking, right?

They have won 10 of the 15 senate candidates they endorsed so far, and 3 off them aren't decided yet. That's 83.3%

2/3 = 0.833 ?

[ChumpDumper]

2/3 = 0.833 ?:rollin

Got damn.

[baseline bum]

You're joking, right?

They have won 10 of the 15 senate candidates they endorsed so far, and 3 off them aren't decided yet. That's 83.3%

Have you ever, in the history of this board, gotten a fact right? Seriously?


ALASKA
U.S. Senate: Joe Miller to defeat Lisa Murkowski (I) and Scott McAdams (D) - UNDECIDED, PROBABLE LOSS

CALIFORNIA
U.S. Senate: Carly Fiorina to defeat Barbara Boxer - LOSS


COLORADO
U.S. Senate: Ken Buck to defeat Michael Bennet - WIN



CONNECTICUT
U.S. Senate: Linda McMahan over Richard Blumenthal - LOSS



DELAWARE
U.S. Senate: Christine O’Donnell to defeat Chris Coons - LOSS



IDAHO
U.S. Senate: Mike Crapo to defeat Tom Sullivan - WIN



KANSAS
U.S. Senate: Jerry Moran to defeat Lisa Johnston - WIN



NEVADA
U.S. Senate: Sharron Angle to defeat Harry Reid - LOSS



NEW HAMPSHIRE
U.S. Senate: Kelly Ayotte over Paul Hodes - WIN



NORTH DAKOTA
U.S. Senate: John Hoeven to defeat Tracy Potter - WIN



OKLAHOMA
U.S. Senate: Tom Coburn to defeat Jim Rogers - WIN



OHIO
U.S. Senate: Rob Portman over Lee Fisher - WIN



PENNSYLVANIA
U.S. Senate: Pat Toomey over Joe Sestak - WIN



SOUTH DAKOTA
U.S. Senate: John Thune – unopposed - WIN



UTAH
U.S. Senate: Mike Lee to defeat Sam Granato - WIN


WASHINGTON
U.S. Senate: Dino Rossi to defeat Patty Murray - UNDECIDED, TOO CLOSE TO CALL


WEST VIRGINIA
U.S. Senate: John Raese over Joe Manchin - LOSS



So it's 10-5 with 2 undecided, one of which they probably lose and the other way too close to call yet.

[baseline bum]

Shit, let me provide actual sources, since unlike WC's, the stats are not from my ass:

http://news.yahoo.com/page/2010electionsdashboard
http://www.teapartyexpress.org/endorse/

[Wild Cobra]

I posted the link I was using earlier. This is the list of senate candidates with tea party support:

Alaska: Joe Miller
Arkansas: John Boozman
Colorado: Ken Buck
Delaware: Christine O'Donnell
Florida: Marco Rubio
Idaho: Mike Crapo
Kansas: Jerry Moran
Kentucky: Rand Paul
Nevada: Sharron Angle
North Dakota: John Hoeven
Oklahoma: Tom Coburn
South Carolina: Jim DeMint
South Dakota: John Thune
Utah: Mike Lee
Washington: Dino Rossi

There is no individual tea party that supports all state races. Yours is a false one. They are not an organized national group. The ones I posted had actual tea party support. Not a just a site saying who to vote for.

[Wild Cobra]

Here is the list I used, again:

Tea Party Candidates of the 2010 Midterm Election (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/31/tea-party-candidates-midterm-election/)

[Wild Cobra]

Shit, let me provide actual sources, since unlike WC's, the stats are not from my ass:

http://news.yahoo.com/page/2010electionsdashboard
http://www.teapartyexpress.org/endorse/
Why doesn't yours have Rand Paul?

[baseline bum]

Why doesn't yours have Rand Paul?

Because the Tea Party's web admin, much like its candidates, is a moron.

[ChuckD]

:rollin

Murkowski 41%
Miller 34%

76% reporting.

[baseline bum]

I posted the link I was using earlier. This is the list of senate candidates with tea party support:

Alaska: Joe Miller
Arkansas: John Boozman
Colorado: Ken Buck
Delaware: Christine O'Donnell
Florida: Marco Rubio
Idaho: Mike Crapo
Kansas: Jerry Moran
Kentucky: Rand Paul
Nevada: Sharron Angle
North Dakota: John Hoeven
Oklahoma: Tom Coburn
South Carolina: Jim DeMint
South Dakota: John Thune
Utah: Mike Lee
Washington: Dino Rossi

There is no individual tea party that supports all state races. Yours is a false one. They are not an organized national group. The ones I posted had actual tea party support. Not a just a site saying who to vote for.

Endorsement from the ultimate teabagger isn't teabagger support?

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/lets-shake-it-up-in-california/386510153434

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpuQTTFpdNg

[Wild Cobra]

Because the Tea Party's web admin, much like its candidates, is a moron.
If you say so. Their was no single party, or list agreed upon. At least mine is marked as an "Unofficial list."

Endorsement from the ultimate teabagger isn't teabagger support?

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/lets-shake-it-up-in-california/386510153434

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpuQTTFpdNg
Look, I don't know if my list was complete or not. Fact is though, I was correct by the list I used, and I posted the list in a different thread. I was correct by that list. What I will do is compile the results of both lists for the senate. I'm not going to bother adding the others because of time. However, I assure you, the Tea party supported candidate will still have a nice gain.

[Wild Cobra]

:rollin

Murkowski 41%
Miller 34%

76% reporting.
Murkowski probably did win. However, we don't know that till the write in votes are tallied. Write in got 41%. Miller got 34.2%. Now I would say it is statistically impossible that enough of the write in votes were not for Murkowski if there were not so many write in candidates. However, there were more than 150 of them. If we assume each of them average 200 people, then that is 30000 votes. So far, the vote is 81,876 for write ins vs. 68,288 for Miller, or just a 13,588 difference. We don't know why there were so many write in candidate. For all I know, maybe it is normal for Alaska. Unless you can provide some good insight to Alaska politics, I suggest being cautious over who won.

[Yonivore]

Murkowski probably did win. However, we don't know that till the write in votes are tallied. Write in got 41%. Miller got 34.2%. Now I would say it is statistically impossible that enough of the write in votes were not for Murkowski if there were not so many write in candidates. However, there were more than 150 of them. If we assume each of them average 200 people, then that is 30000 votes. So far, the vote is 81,876 for write ins vs. 68,288 for Miller, or just a 13,588 difference. We don't know why there were so many write in candidate. For all I know, maybe it is normal for Alaska. Unless you can provide some good insight to Alaska politics, I suggest being cautious over who won.
Joe Miller supporters flooded the write-in rolls and were able to get dozens of names added to the list.

Right now, that 41% is for ALL write-ins.

Conventional wisdom says most (enough, anyway) are for Murkowski. But, that won't be known until they are counted.

What would be cool is if there were more than one Murkowski on the write-in ballot. The voter would have to differentiate.

[baseline bum]

Joe Miller supporters flooded the write-in rolls and were able to get dozens of names added to the list.

Right now, that 41% is for ALL write-ins.

Conventional wisdom says most (enough, anyway) are for Murkowski. But, that won't be known until they are counted.

What would be cool is if there were more than one Murkowski on the write-in ballot. The voter would have to differentiate.

What a scumbag fuck you are, hoping Alaska voters are disenfranchised by a scam run by teabaggers.

[DMX7]

What would be cool is if there were more than one Murkowski on the write-in ballot. The voter would have to differentiate.

Yeah, voter disenfranchisement is super cool.

[Wild Cobra]

OK Bum. My list would have tea party supported candidates at 10/3/2 for win/loss/undecided. Adding those on your list makes it 13/4/2. Percentage wise, they are now 68.42%/21.05%/10.53% with your list, bettering 66.67%/20.00%/13.33% from my list.

Let me clarify my earlier point. Just because a tea party organization or Sarah Palin endorsed a candidate, it is not the same as actually receiving volunteers or money from a Tea Party organization. I don't know the status from the four I added from your list, but really. Why do you make such a big beak of it when my underlying point remains?

Attack the messenger, not the message... because the message is real... Right?

[baseline bum]

Why didn't you go fucking shoot Murkowski, you piece of shit Yonivore? Then your fucking candidate would have been assured the win. At all costs, right motherfucker?

[clambake]

this says more about palin than anything. alaska hates her, and they should know.

[Wild Cobra]

Joe Miller supporters flooded the write-in rolls and were able to get dozens of names added to the list.

Right now, that 41% is for ALL write-ins.

Conventional wisdom says most (enough, anyway) are for Murkowski. But, that won't be known until they are counted.

What would be cool is if there were more than one Murkowski on the write-in ballot. The voter would have to differentiate.
Isn't it also an estimated 30,000 absentee ballots to be counted?

[Wild Cobra]

I looked at the write in list (http://www.elections.alaska.gov/ci_pg_cl_2010_genr.php) again, I didn't notice any that appear close to Murkowski, but guess who else is on the write-in list that will likely receive some votes in this manner:

* Joe Miller (Republican)
PO Box 72838
Fairbanks, AK 99707
Phone: (907) 452-8559
e-mail: [email protected]
Candidate's web site: http://www.joemiller.us

What if he actually picks up half the write in vote to add to his 25%?

This changes the statistical probability some, I would say.

[Wild Cobra]

Yeah, voter disenfranchisement is super cool.

Like the rigged voting machines in Nevada. First time Reid ever got more than 50%, and in this political climate? Multiple reports of Reid's name already being checked when the screen comes up...

In this political climate, I doubt those are false reports.

[clambake]

i think palin rigged the ballots in alaska!!!!!!

generic fraud post.

[baseline bum]

Like the rigged voting machines in Nevada. First time Reid ever got more than 50%, and in this political climate? Multiple reports of Reid's name already being checked when the screen comes up...

In this political climate, I doubt those are false reports.

Can you name one person other than Yonivore on this forum who thinks voter disenfranchisement like that is OK?

[Wild Cobra]

Can you name one person other than Yonivore on this forum who thinks voter disenfranchisement like that is OK?
I didn't see that out of his posting.

Please extrapolate for me.

[ChuckD]

I looked at the write in list (http://www.elections.alaska.gov/ci_pg_cl_2010_genr.php) again, I didn't notice any that appear close to Murkowski, but guess who else is on the write-in list that will likely receive some votes in this manner:

* Joe Miller (Republican)
PO Box 72838
Fairbanks, AK 99707
Phone: (907) 452-8559
e-mail: [email protected]
Candidate's web site: http://www.joemiller.us

What if he actually picks up half the write in vote to add to his 25%?

This changes the statistical probability some, I would say.

I'd say it would be stupid for Tea Party to write him in when he's already on the ballot, but...they're Tea Party.

[baseline bum]

I didn't see that out of his posting.

Please extrapolate for me.

It's pointless talking to you. I have met less stubborn 8 year-olds.

[Wild Cobra]

I'd say it would be stupid for Tea Party to write him in when he's already on the ballot, but...they're Tea Party.
Who said anything about tea party writing him in? My point is that enough of the write in vote might not be for Murkowski. She needs 83.4% of the write in vote to match Miller's numbers, and he is in the write in too! Even if she gets 90% of the write in, if Miller gets 6.6% of it, it's still a tie.

[Wild Cobra]

It's pointless talking to you. I have met less stubborn 8 year-olds.
I understand.

I was only turning your assumption back on you, and now you realize how stupid your assumption is, so you are afraid to show me how you arrived at your conclusion.

[DMX7]

Like the rigged voting machines in Nevada. First time Reid ever got more than 50%, and in this political climate?

Oh please, Butthurt much? It's also the first time he ran against a candidate who thinks we should use chickens to barter for our healthcare.

[Wild Cobra]

ep-ODqIYvLs

Hey, it's you liberals that keep insisting these machines can be tampered with.

[DMX7]

Here's a crazy idea. Change it if it says Reid and you want to vote for whore Angle.

[baseline bum]

I understand.

I was only turning your assumption back on you, and now you realize how stupid your assumption is, so you are afraid to show me how you arrived at your conclusion.

OK, I'll break it down like I'm talking to a third grader. Yonivore posts about how teabagger supporters flooded the rolls with write-in names for the ballots. Then Yonivore talks about how cool it would be if there was another Murkowski on the ballot, which would ensure anyone who happens to misspell the name slightly doesn't have their vote counted, and therefore Yonivore is hoping for voter disenfranchisement to get his teabagger candidate in.

[Yonivore]

What a scumbag fuck you are, hoping Alaska voters are disenfranchised by a scam run by teabaggers.
:lmao

How would they be disenfranchised? Every name on the write-in list was there legitimately.

Murkowski got her cronies in the Alaska SOS office to change the rules and have lists printed and passed out.

If you go to the polls to vote for Murkowski, you should probably know that before you get there and, you should probably know how to spell her name.

Disenfranchised. :lmao

Now, are you as pissed off about the military ballots that were mailed late from Illinois? Too late to be counted?

[Wild Cobra]

OK, I'll break it down like I'm talking to a third grader. Yonivore posts about how teabagger supporters flooded the rolls with write-in names for the ballots. Then Yonivore talks about how cool it would be if there was another Murkowski on the ballot, which would ensure anyone who happens to misspell the name slightly doesn't have their vote counted, and therefore Yonivore is hoping for voter disenfranchisement to get his teabagger candidate in.
I didn't read his posts like that. His saying they flooded the rolls could be that he had people purposely vote for his write in name. As for being cool if voters had to differentiate, they do. If the spelling isn't close, it will be discarded. there is only one Murkowski, and nobody close to the name. I think he just trolled for the likes of you, and you took the bait. If there were two similar names, you can trust the fact would have been public.

As for getting dozens of names added, if that isn't obvious trolling for the likes of you...

Really now? Why would they do that? What motive would such a thing serve unless the names were similar to hers... and let me remind you, none were!

Your logic is a total fail in my view.

[Wild Cobra]

Now, are you as pissed off about the military ballots that were mailed late from Illinois? Too late to be counted?
No he isn't.

He supported disenfranchising the military vote in the last elections. Why should he be different now?

[Wild Cobra]

Here's a crazy idea. Change it if it says Reid and you want to vote for whore Angle.
Not everyone double checks things. If someone chose not to vote for a candidate, but it's already checked, they may not have notice. Should Reid get the blank votes counted for him?

Yes, you are truly the one who like to see the voters disenfranchised, otherwise, you would want to stop any chance of cheating too, instead of complaining about it when a republican wins, and ignoring it when a democrat wins.

[rascal]

Nooo - I believe "my" team is what is best for America. Obama, Pelosi and Reed have clearly made this an "us against them" election. And I'm happy they are suffering a huge defeat.

No conservativre talk radio has fuled the us vs them attitude.

Conservative talk radio cries about bias so called mainstream media yet they reach millions so they are also a part of mainstream media.

[Wild Cobra]

No conservativre talk radio has fuled the us vs them attitude.
Only to repel the invaders against this nation.

[rascal]

Only to repel the invaders against this nation.

?

[Wild Cobra]

?
The liberal agenda has damaged this nation so severely, it will take years of stopping their influence to recover.

[rascal]

The liberal agenda has damaged this nation so severely, it will take years of stopping their influence to recover.

Stop it. You sound foolish.

[Wild Cobra]

Stop it. You sound foolish.
Ever look at the economic history and who's policies were involved? What parties promised what changes?

[baseline bum]

I didn't read his posts like that. His saying they flooded the rolls could be that he had people purposely vote for his write in name. As for being cool if voters had to differentiate, they do. If the spelling isn't close, it will be discarded. there is only one Murkowski, and nobody close to the name. I think he just trolled for the likes of you, and you took the bait. If there were two similar names, you can trust the fact would have been public.

As for getting dozens of names added, if that isn't obvious trolling for the likes of you...

Really now? Why would they do that? What motive would such a thing serve unless the names were similar to hers... and let me remind you, none were!

Your logic is a total fail in my view.

I guess they don't teach logic in parts-changing class.

[baseline bum]

:lmao

How would they be disenfranchised? Every name on the write-in list was there legitimately.

Murkowski got her cronies in the Alaska SOS office to change the rules and have lists printed and passed out.

If you go to the polls to vote for Murkowski, you should probably know that before you get there and, you should probably know how to spell her name.

Disenfranchised. :lmao

Now, are you as pissed off about the military ballots that were mailed late from Illinois? Too late to be counted?

No one buys your bullshit rationalizations. Dickheads like you are the reason this country is so fucked. As soon as your side does something unethical all you can do is play the victim card and act like every offense ever committed against your side justifies it. You're a sick fuck to wrap yourself in the flag and act like some super-patriot and then proclaim how you'd love to toss out votes for a candidate if some other dickhead like you registered a similar name.

[Yonivore]

No one buys your bullshit rationalizations. Dickheads like you are the reason this country is so fucked. As soon as your side does something unethical all you can do is play the victim card and act like every offense ever committed against your side justifies it. You're a sick fuck to wrap yourself in the flag and act like some super-patriot and then proclaim how you'd love to toss out votes for a candidate if some other dickhead like you registered a similar name.
C'mon, say what you really mean. Let is all out. It'll be cathartic.

[baseline bum]

C'mon, say what you really mean. Let is all out. It'll be cathartic.

Sarcasm is the refuge of a jackass who has nothing to say.

[Yonivore]

Sarcasm is the refuge of a jackass who has nothing to say.
What else is there to say? Especially in response to a nonsensical, profanity-laced, post that doesn't really warrant a response.

[Wild Cobra]

I guess they don't teach logic in parts-changing class.
Actually, logic is far more understandable in machines vs. human nature. There are only shaded of gray troubleshooting intermittent problems.

p.s.

Being a parts changer is only a small part of my job description, and I bet I make more doing so than you, and have a more stable job than you.

[baseline bum]

What else is there to say? Especially in response to a nonsensical, profanity-laced, post that doesn't really warrant a response.

There's nothing for you to say. You have already established you could give a shit about the spirit of a law when you can find some technicality to screw other people over.

[Yonivore]

There's nothing for you to say. You have already established you could give a shit about the spirit of a law when you can find some technicality to screw other people over.
Only when those other people are unscrupulous assholes that could give a shit about the spirit of the law when they can find some technicality to screw other people over.

[baseline bum]

Actually, logic is far more understandable in machines vs. human nature. There are only shaded of gray troubleshooting intermittent problems.


I can't imagine a machine with harder to understand logic than Yonivore's.



p.s.

Being a parts changer is only a small part of my job description, and I bet I make more doing so than you, and have a more stable job than you.

Weren't you here bitching about your hours being cut a few months ago? Doesn't sound too stable.

[baseline bum]

Only when those other people are unscrupulous assholes that could give a shit about the spirit of the law when they can find some technicality to screw other people over.

Always playing the victim card. :cry

[clambake]

wc will be fine. he's a union employee. he says they don't even work.

[Yonivore]

Always playing the victim card. :cry
Not a victim today. We've had our say at the ballot box. Suck ass baseline bum.

As President Obama said, "We won!"

[Wild Cobra]

I can't imagine a machine with harder to understand logic than Yonivore's.



Weren't you here bitching about your hours being cut a few months ago? Doesn't sound too stable.
No. I was commenting on how my hours were increasing because they were not hiring more workers, but our production increased.

I work a minimum 40 hours. Never less except for holiday and vacation time. The last few months I have been working a minimum 46 hr. week. Last week was 52 hrs.

How often do you mix up facts like that?

[clambake]

i bet you worked maybe 12 hours of that 52.

[Wild Cobra]

wc will be fine. he's a union employee. he says they don't even work.
Spinning the facts huh...

Yes, I hardly work, but work hard when I do. I sit around watching DVD's while waiting for a trouble call. Other than that, I do a PM (preventative maintenance) on one piece of equipment that takes about an hour. When I work overtime, it's because more equipment needs PM's than we have the manpower for, or a special project I was put on back in August. And yes, I actually bust my ass the.

[Nbadan]

The liberal agenda has damaged this nation so severely, it will take years of stopping their influence to recover.

:lmao

Yeah, how about those two unfunded proactive wars?

How about the largest increase in social spending since Medicare was founded?

How about the largest percentage increase in discretionary spending ever


Your a joke...

[Wild Cobra]

i bet you worked maybe 12 hours of that 52.
No, I work about 8-10 hours on a normal 40 hr week if there is no equipment downtime. Any extra hours is all actual work.

[Yonivore]

:lmao

Yeah, how about those two unfunded proactive wars?

How about the largest increase in social spending since Medicare was founded?

How about the largest percentage increase in discretionary spending ever


Your a joke...
Our President is getting ready to spend 2 billion dollars on a Presidential junket to India.

This guy is acting like a King.

[Nbadan]

Our President is getting ready to spend 2 billion dollars on a Presidential junket to India.

This guy is acting like a King.

Show me the receipts or STFU

[Wild Cobra]

Well, Kitzhaber was announced governor of Oregon. Damn they found allot of votes in the last batch.

Doesn't pass the smell test.

[Wild Cobra]

Show me the receipts or STFU
I'm curious to see that too.

[clambake]

Spinning the facts huh...

Yes, I hardly work, but work hard when I do. I sit around watching DVD's while waiting for a trouble call. Other than that, I do a PM (preventative maintenance) on one piece of equipment that takes about an hour. When I work overtime, it's because more equipment needs PM's than we have the manpower for, or a special project I was put on back in August. And yes, I actually bust my ass the.


No, I work about 8-10 hours on a normal 40 hr week if there is no equipment downtime. Any extra hours is all actual work.

wow :wow i've never heard of a union job that milks more than yours.

from welfare to the cow. congrats! :toast

[Yonivore]

Show me the receipts or STFU
:lmao

[Wild Cobra]

wow :wow i've never heard of a union job that milks more than yours.

from welfare to the cow. congrats! :toast
I do more work than my last job as an automation equipment technician, that wasn't union. This is industry standard. I am there to keep the equipment running. Fix it when and if it breaks.

[clambake]

I do more work than my last job as an automation equipment technician, that wasn't union. This is industry standard. I am there to keep the equipment running. Fix it when and if it breaks.

so it keeps breaking after you fix it. nice scam you got goin.

[Wild Cobra]

so it keeps breaking after you fix it. nice scam you got goin.
LOL...

that's how those with the union mentality take the job. It breaks often after they work on it, but never the same problem after I do. My boss appreciates the fact that I don't play the union mentality games. Three people there hate me.

[clambake]

LOL...

that's how those with the union mentality take the job. It breaks often after they work on it, but never the same problem after I do. My boss appreciates the fact that I don't play the union mentality games. Three people there hate me.

you're different :lol except you play the union games by sitting on your ass.