Neal + Anderson = Anti-Bonner

[arodz]

I was so happy when Bonner went down with the ankle injury. It gave more playing time to guys with athleticism and decisiveness...and guys who are NOT defensive liabilities.

[spectator]

trolling much?

[lefty]

Every Spu not named Bonner = anti-bonner

[Obstructed_View]

Bonner isn't a defensive liability if he's allowed to play his role at his position. If Pop had started Bruce Bowen at center you'd have realized what a terrible center Bruce Bowen was.

[dbestpro]

I have no problem with Bonner taking Simmons minutes when he returns. Actually, Blair needs to get his head together or we may see a rotation of Splitter, Dice, Bonner, and Duncan. Pop will not hesitate to put Blair in the doghouse if he does not start playing with more fire.

[EricB]

Thinking Bonner is this soft guy is exactly the opposite. Bonner is pretty tough guy.

BTW, STFU with the "Im happy he got hurt"

Thats bullshit. You NEVER cheer a guy getting hurt, ESPECIALLY on your own goddamn team.


F'ing newbie fans.

[spectator]

the reason ppl hate bonner is b/c pop has played him many times outside of his role - a 15 min/game PF who can shoot the 3 ball and space the floor on offense. that's it. it does not matter if he's hot or not, that's all he should play in the nba. his defense is under par; even on his best days, it's just average. we know that.

so stop hating him b/c it does not fill big shot rob's huge shoes or b/c pop plays him more than he should. btw, neal and anderson are shooters, small guards - they are supposed to shoot the ball; they are not anti-bonner; in fact, i am willing to bet that bonner finishes the season with a better 3PT% than both of those guys.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

I was so happy when Bonner went down with the ankle injury. It gave more playing time to guys with athleticism and decisiveness...and guys who are NOT defensive liabilities.

Does this really deserve its own thread? I'm sure you could have posted on the many other 'anti-' or 'hate' Bonner threads.

[wunderkindepiphany]

@ EricB-Thank you. I hate that shit. Its one thing to joke around and hope the other team's players get hurt, but Bonner is one of our own.

[arodz]

BTW, STFU with the "Im happy he got hurt"

Thats bullshit. You NEVER cheer a guy getting hurt, ESPECIALLY on your own goddamn team.


F'ing newbie fans.

Been a Huge Spurs fan for 20 years asshole. And if Bonner being hurt helps my team, I'm all for it. I'm soooo fucking sick of these Bonner apologists. You dumasses sound like Wade Phillips, only focusing on positives.

[BronxCowboy]

Been a Huge Spurs fan for 20 years asshole. And if Bonner being hurt helps my team, I'm all for it.

You are not a Spurs fan at all, asshole, if you celebrate their injuries. GTFO.

[Obstructed_View]

Been a Huge Spurs fan for 20 years asshole. And if Bonner being hurt helps my team, I'm all for it. I'm soooo fucking sick of these Bonner apologists. You dumasses sound like Wade Phillips, only focusing on positives.

No, we're just putting the blame where it belongs; on the guy who decided to start a role playing small forward at center for 70 games.

[spectator]

Been a Huge Spurs fan for 20 years asshole. And if Bonner being hurt helps my team, I'm all for it. I'm soooo fucking sick of these Bonner apologists. You dumasses sound like Wade Phillips, only focusing on positives.

it does not matter how long you've been a fan or on this forum, a troll is a troll; going to the derogatory comments does not help your value either dude. take a chill pill. you want to make outlandish statements like your thread title, you better back it up with some new perspectives, new numbers, new something; we already know that ppl don't like bonner, we know that, it's been documented.

[spectator]

No, we're just putting the blame where it belongs; on the guy who decided to start a role playing small forward at center for 70 games.

r u serious or texting from a satellite of uranus where it's still 1st of april? you do know that the coaches make those decisions, right?

[BronxCowboy]

r u serious or texting from a satellite of uranus where it's still 1st of april? you do know that the coaches make those decisions, right?

I may be mistaken, but I think he WAS talking about the coaches.

[spectator]

I may be mistaken, but I think he WAS talking about the coaches.

if that's the case, then my bad

[Obstructed_View]

r u serious or texting from a satellite of uranus where it's still 1st of april? you do know that the coaches make those decisions, right?

Exactly. Don't blame the player who starts the games and is overmatched, blame the coach who keeps starting him.

[HarlemHeat37]

Bonner has had plenty of great games as a Spur, and he's had plenty of games where he has played good defense..particularly in the 1st half of the season 2 years ago..

It's funny how much people overreact here..all this talk after Neal played one good game..

[arodz]

No, we're just putting the blame where it belongs; on the guy who decided to start a role playing small forward at center for 70 games.

Oh so now it's all Pops fault? Pops big mistake was to put Mason at the point. But Bonner is 6'10" with no post game. He has to play center or nothing at all.

[Ocotillo]

Don't even wish for the other team's guys to get hurt.

I do wish for rapid aging of Kobe though...... :D

[Obstructed_View]

Oh so now it's all Pops fault? Pops big mistake was to put Mason at the point. But Bonner is 6'10" with no post game. He has to play center or nothing at all.

That's completely stupid. Bonner can play any spot on the front line so long as he's in there to shoot three pointers and be an energy guy, which means coming off the bench for limited minutes and being careful of the matchups when he's in. Starting him and asking him to defend guys like Lamarcus Aldridge and Pau Gasol in the post night after night after night is fucking retarded.

If putting Mason at point guard was a "big mistake", then starting Bonner for a season ranks up there with Vietnam and Prohibition.

[pookenstein]

Thinking Bonner is this soft guy is exactly the opposite. Bonner is pretty tough guy.

BTW, STFU with the "Im happy he got hurt"

Thats bullshit. You NEVER cheer a guy getting hurt, ESPECIALLY on your own goddamn team.


F'ing newbie fans.

+1. Except for the newbie part:lol

[The_Worlds_finest]

Sorry guys I totally disagree and you can hold me to it. Bonner will be good this year.

[Nathan89]

Who does this man think he is wishing the worst for our Spurs players.
Lets get rid of him, ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!:hang

[BronxCowboy]

Sorry guys I totally disagree and you can hold me to it. Bonner will be good this year.

I think you're right, if you keep it in perspective. Bonner has always been good at what he does. There's no reason to expect any different this year.

[underdawg]

Sorry guys I totally disagree and you can hold me to it. Bonner will be good this year.

I do disagree with you - I think boner's a one trick pony and with the ability of our big men, we'll need more than that. To say that his defense is adequate is laughable - maybe it's adequate for a no jumping, short armed big man, but not what we need for a big man getting 15+ minutes.

While I don't share the joy of boner's injury like the OP, it might give Pop a view of some alternatives to boner getting more minutes than he should.

[ElNono]

Bonner has had plenty of great games as a Spur, and he's had plenty of games where he has played good defense..particularly in the 1st half of the season 2 years ago..

:lol

[SequSpur]

Lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I'm soooo fucking sick of these Bonner apologists.Here, here.

The time has come for Blair apologists.

[Obstructed_View]

I do disagree with you - I think boner's a one trick pony and with the ability of our big men, we'll need more than that. To say that his defense is adequate is laughable - maybe it's adequate for a no jumping, short armed big man, but not what we need for a big man getting 15+ minutes.

While I don't share the joy of boner's injury like the OP, it might give Pop a view of some alternatives to boner getting more minutes than he should.

And there's your mistake. He shouldn't be getting 15+ minutes unless he's absolutely on fire from outside or having one of his rare monster games. You guys keep thinking he's a center just because Pop put him there. I'm waiting for some dumbass to call him a "seven footer" again.

[Obstructed_View]

Here, here.

The time has come for Blair apologists.

We gave Bonner benefit of the doubt for a while. I'm giving Blair a couple of weeks to get his brain wrapped around starting.

[ChumpDumper]

We gave Bonner benefit of the doubt for a while. I'm giving Blair a couple of weeks to get his brain wrapped around starting.See what I mean? :D

[Obstructed_View]

See what I mean? :D

Seems only fair. Hoping Pop has a slightly shorter hook with Blair, though. Blair has quite a bit more talent behind him than Bonner did. Remember when Pops Mensah Bonsu looked good? That's not because we were delusional, it's because the front line was that thin.

[Big P]

With the way Neal & Anderson have looked early, I really question why the Spur's outbid themselves to sign matt....4 years & $14 mil?? How about 3 years $10 mil with %50 guaranteed in year 3? That's what the contract should have looked like, & even then, that's way gracious.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not getting the comparisons. They don't play the same position.

[8FOR!3]

If anything Bonner's not really even a defensive liability, he gives a lot of effort on that end. Bogans and Mason on the other hand. They might be the anti Magons.

[AussieFanKurt]

If anything Bonner's not really even a defensive liability, he gives a lot of effort on that end. Bogans and Mason on the other hand. They might be the anti Magons.

Agreed, Bogans and more specifically RMJ were the liabilities

[thispego]

lol arodz not knowing shit about basketball :lol

[underdawg]

If anything Bonner's not really even a defensive liability, he gives a lot of effort on that end. Bogans and Mason on the other hand. They might be the anti Magons.

his liability is his defense - his hustle is oustanding, but his defensive talent is not

[underdawg]

I'm not getting the comparisons. They don't play the same position.

I think the comparison is Anderson & Neal (at a very small sample) being more rounded of basketball players than boner.

[Big P]

I'm not getting the comparisons. They don't play the same position.

Bonner brings 3 point shooting & that's about it. Neal & Anderson can take & make those 3's at a higher clip for $1.5-2 mil per year. I would have rather seen bonner walk than the Spurs give him 4 years $14 mil.

[ChumpDumper]

Bonner brings 3 point shooting & that's about it. Neal & Anderson can take & make those 3's at a higher clip for $1.5-2 mil per year. I would have rather seen bonner walk than the Spurs give him 4 years $14 mil.Big men get paid.

Big men who can shoot threes get paid more.

It's well below the average, so I don't see the reason to get up in arms about it.

[Obstructed_View]

Big men get paid.

Yep. Can't teach size. Did Bonner get too much money? Yep. Did Bonner get way more than the going rate for a big who can shoot 40 percent? Nope.

[Big P]

You have to agree, 4 years without any sort of team option is overkill. We outbid ourselves...why?....they could pay Brian Cardinal the minimum to put up 3's.

[Sean Cagney]

:blah
Bonner has had plenty of great games as a Spur, and he's had plenty of games where he has played good defense..particularly in the 1st half of the season 2 years ago..

It's funny how much people overreact here..all this talk after Neal played one good game..

Bonner has had more bad games and played bad D when it counts against great teams or in the playoffs, I don't get how anyone still thinks this dude is a legit player in this league!

He is good in spot minutes but not a starter nor a C in the NBA! I would not mind someone taking his mins because he has had years here and has done little sides a few games in the reg season. When the playoffs come he freezes up like the water on the road in January.
If anything Bonner's not really even a defensive liability, he gives a lot of effort on that end. Bogans and Mason on the other hand. They might be the anti Magons.

Here comes the effort thing again, well he give effort and hustle :lol:lol:depressed. That does not mean he is worth a shyt there.

Bonner is like a retarded kid, they find reasons to not hate him and keep the morale up on him, he hustles and gives effort :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

You have to agree, 4 years without any sort of team option is overkill. We outbid ourselves...why?....they could pay Brian Cardinal the minimum to put up 3's.It's just not that much money in the NBA.

And Bonner is better than Brian Cardinal, who once got a full MLE contract,

[analyzed]

Actuallly Blair is at risk of playing a limited role and minutes come playoff time. Unless he can prove he can handle length, come playoff time I see Pop stretching Tim, Splitter and Dice minutes leaving Blair's role to a 10 to 15 min guy.

[SequSpur]

bullshit chumpdumber...

really? you're gonna make that argument? Matt Bonner, I think we all except for maybe you has no impact on the win loss column. He has no upside, he is a one trick pony that really isn't good at the one trick. He plays smaller than Mugsy Bogues in the paint.

Wake the hell up already...Matt Bonner getting 4 years is total bullshit. I didn't know it was 4 years, now I am even more irate over this bullshit...

Come on man...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

That's completely stupid. Bonner can play any spot on the front line so long as he's in there to shoot three pointers and be an energy guy, which means coming off the bench for limited minutes and being careful of the matchups when he's in. Starting him and asking him to defend guys like Lamarcus Aldridge and Pau Gasol in the post night after night after night is fucking retarded.

If putting Mason at point guard was a "big mistake", then starting Bonner for a season ranks up there with Vietnam and Prohibition.

Careful, OV, you're actually making sense. That's not very popular on the internets... :lmao

[gospursgojas]

If Bonner's gonna get beat out for rebounds consistantly...might as well bench him and put in 2 guys who aren't gonna get rebounds and hit threes.

[Leonard Curse]

bullshit chumpdumber...

really? you're gonna make that argument? Matt Bonner, I think we all except for maybe you has no impact on the win loss column. He has no upside, he is a one trick pony that really isn't good at the one trick. He plays smaller than Mugsy Bogues in the paint.

Wake the hell up already...Matt Bonner getting 4 years is total bullshit. I didn't know it was 4 years, now I am even more irate over this bullshit...

Come on man...

:lmao i know everytime i see the "4yrs/14mil" i have a grand mal seizure :wow

ive run out of theories, as to why pop would sign him for so long!!! will he trade him? hell no! its like the mike finley affair he didnt want to trade him at all yet he kept him on the bench for what damn reason??..until finley said he wanted to be released!! :lol pop got butthurt

seeing how bonner will jump off a bridge if pop told him to i doubt we ever see matt leave!! i bet he wouldnt trade bonner for greg oden !! i mean lets say he played matt like hes supposed to which is 15min dammit why in the hell are we paying him 14 damn million dollars??!?!

the best case scenario is we trade him and acquire a big defensive guy even if its a 1 trick pony lets make sure thats defense!!! looks like 2 bigs will be available soon JEFF GREEN and GREG ODEN

[TJastal]

:lmao i know everytime i see the "4yrs/14mil" i have a grand mal seizure :wow

ive run out of theories, as to why pop would sign him for so long!!! will he trade him? hell no! its like the mike finley affair he didnt want to trade him at all yet he kept him on the bench for what damn reason??..until finley said he wanted to be released!! :lol pop got butthurt

seeing how bonner will jump off a bridge if pop told him to i doubt we ever see matt leave!! i bet he wouldnt trade bonner for greg oden !! i mean lets say he played matt like hes supposed to which is 15min dammit why in the hell are we paying him 14 damn million dollars??!?!

the best case scenario is we trade him and acquire a big defensive guy even if its a 1 trick pony lets make sure thats defense!!! looks like 2 bigs will be available soon JEFF GREEN and GREG ODEN

Don't knock on Matty B... he went for 16/14 last night. Oh wait, that was Matt Barnes. I should've known that couldn't be Matt Bonner getting 14 rebounds. :rollin

How nice would it have been to have Matt Barnes as a versatile SF/PF in Pop's rotation? He would have been the perfect fit and would have jumped a plane to SA in a heartbeat for 4yr/14m.

[TJastal]

My theory

RC sent Pop a memo 'we need to sign Matt B'. Next day Pop resigns Bonner for 4 years. RC: Doh!

:lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Hate to admit it, but the Spurs' bench looks promising.

[itzsoweezee]

Bonner shrivels up when the game is of any kind of significance --> he deserves the hate

[TJastal]

Hate to admit it, but the Spurs' bench looks promising.

Don't worry, Bonner will be back in a few weeks.

[Sean Cagney]

Bonner shrivels up when the game is of any kind of significance --> he deserves the hate

.....................................

[ChumpDumper]

bullshit chumpdumber...

really? you're gonna make that argument? Matt Bonner, I think we all except for maybe you has no impact on the win loss column. He has no upside, he is a one trick pony that really isn't good at the one trick. He plays smaller than Mugsy Bogues in the paint.

Wake the hell up already...Matt Bonner getting 4 years is total bullshit. I didn't know it was 4 years, now I am even more irate over this bullshit...

Come on man...Keep drinking.

The rest need to make more excuses for Blair.

[Yorae]

If your death will help my team, how I wish your f*cking dead! Is that the logic?

[TJastal]

More on Barnes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/11941/why-matt-barnes-is-fitting-in

Notable quotes

Barnes is averaging eight points, 5.3 rebounds and two assists a game, in 19 minutes.


He added badly needed depth at small forward, one of the only structural weak points on the roster.


The glass work on both ends is hardly a fluke- Barnes was third in the league last season among small forwards in rebounds per 48 minutes.


He was, notes John Hollinger in his preseason scouting report, 12th in True Shooting Percentage at his position


Barnes joked after the Golden State game how his presence only complicates things on the defensive end, because now there are three guys- himself, Kobe Bryant, and Ron Artest- all vying to guard the opponent's best player. Most nights, Barnes will probably lose out, but the defensive versatility, like the rebounding and off-ball movement on the other end, will only enhance Jackson's ability to use him.

[TDomination]

More on Barnes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/11941/why-matt-barnes-is-fitting-in

Notable quotes

:(

[Brazil]

Thinking Bonner is this soft guy is exactly the opposite. Bonner is pretty tough guy.

BTW, STFU with the "Im happy he got hurt"

Thats bullshit. You NEVER cheer a guy getting hurt, ESPECIALLY on your own goddamn team.


F'ing newbie fans.

/thread

[TJastal]

LMAO @ Bonner being 'a pretty tough guy'

LMAO @ Bonner 4yrs/15m, Barnes 1yr/1.7m, what a joke, Pop is a fucking retard.

[ChumpDumper]

So we're pretending we could have signed Barnes this summer now?

Tell me, where is Barnes from?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Barnes with 16 pts and 14 boards (9 offensive) in 20 min off the bench. Hope L.A. hangs on to him for a couple more years.

[hater]

So we're pretending we could have signed Barnes this summer now?

Tell me, where is Barnes from?

we could have gotten Barnes a while ago. I think Spurs office was considering it when he was in NY I believe.

[ChumpDumper]

we could have gotten Barnes a while ago. When he was in NY I believe.I guess every thread going to devolve into a retro fantasy acquisition circle jerk.

Enjoy yourselves.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/121948/2417893973_baf0b4d262.jpg

A quick google image search reveals that the formula is correct.

[TJastal]

So we're pretending we could have signed Barnes this summer now?

Tell me, where is Barnes from?

Why not? They could have offered him the same contract they gave Bonner - 4yr/15m.

Barnes made it clear he was primarily looking for a longer term contract, but also wanted to play on a contender, spurs could have offered him both which would have trumped LA's 1 yr offer.

And ya I know, Barnes is from LA & went to UCLA .. really wasn't a big factor in his decision though.

[lefty]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/121948/2417893973_baf0b4d262.jpg

A quick google image search reveals that the formula is correct.
:lol

[Mel_13]

Why not? They could have offered him the same contract they gave Bonner - 4yr/15m.

Barnes made it clear he was primarily looking for a longer term contract, but also wanted to play on a contender, spurs could have offered him both which would have trumped LA's 1 yr offer.

And ya I know, Barnes is from LA & went to UCLA .. really wasn't a big factor in his decision though.

No, they could not. The Spurs could not offer Barnes a contract that started at more than 2.3M.

[ChumpDumper]

Why not? They could have offered him the same contract they gave Bonner - 4yr/15m.With what money?


Barnes made it clear he was primarily looking for a longer term contract, but also wanted to play on a contender, spurs could have offered him both which would have trumped LA's 1 yr offer.According to whom?


And ya I know, Barnes is from LA & went to UCLA .. really wasn't a big factor in his decision though.:lmao

According to whom?

[hater]

I guess every thread going to devolve into a retro fantasy acquisition circle jerk.

Enjoy yourselves.

welcome to Spurstalk. you must be new here.

[ChumpDumper]

No, they could not. The Spurs could not offer Barnes a contract that started at more than 2.3M.And TJastal would pay the luxury tax himself.

As a high powered agent with inside knowledge of Scola and now Barnes, it's chump change for him.

[TJastal]

No, they could not. The Spurs could not offer Barnes a contract that started at more than 2.3M.

So they would have been restricted to 4yr/10m. Still trumps the laker deal.

[ChumpDumper]

And ya I know, Barnes is from LA & went to UCLA .. really wasn't a big factor in his decision though.
Miami and the Lakers were the final two teams that it came down to. I had a chance to speak with Pat Riley and I had a chance to speak with Kobe and Mitch Kupchak. They were both offering the same (money)... both great teams... but the Lakers are a proven winning team (going for three in a row). And it came down to me being born and raised in California. Getting a chance to go to UCLA was a dream come true... and another dream of mine was to play for the Lakers. It came down to those two teams and I try to stay on the West Coast.

http://www.thenolookpass.com/2010/07/28/tnlp-talks-to-matt-barnes/

:rollin

[8FOR!3]

Matt Bonner's tougher than people give him credit for. People around here forget he made Kevin Garnett his bitch when he was in Toronto against Minnesota.

0BAomDJMEwY
LOL Bargnani, getting posterized.

2SE-1FwUSRE
Mad ball handling skills.

9Z5GqaRwQ6s
LOL Shaq get that shit out of here.

[Mel_13]

So they would have been restricted to 4yr/10m. Still trumps the laker deal.

:lol

Nice try. You pretend to know what motivated Barnes, but it remains pure speculation on your part. The contract with the Lakers is actually for two years, with the second year at Barnes' option. As you have guessed, Barnes wanted a much richer contract and thought he had one from Toronto (2yrs/10M). Unfortunately, Toronto is incredibly incompetent and didn't have the ability under the CBA to make such an offer.

So Barnes went to the Lakers and signed a contract that gives him an out after one year. If he has a good season, he'll likely opt out and take one more shot a richer deal.

In the end, you have absolutely nothing to support the notion that Barnes was there for the taking. It was really funny that you thought that the Spurs could have taken the money used for Bonner's contract and spent it on a free agent. Thanks for the laugh.

[TJastal]

http://www.thenolookpass.com/2010/07/28/tnlp-talks-to-matt-barnes/

:rollin

Is that why he was all set to sign w/ Toronto huh? Because Canada is just so much like the west coast up there, huh?

[ChumpDumper]

We should just start keeping track of TJastal's Lie(s) o' the Day.

Lie #1: The Spurs could have offered Matt Barnes the same money they gave to Bonner.

Lie #2: Playing professional basketball in his hometown was not a motivating factor in Barnes' decision to sign with the Lakers.

[TJastal]

:lol

Nice try. You pretend to know what motivated Barnes, but it remains pure speculation on your part. The contract with the Lakers is actually for two years, with the second year at Barnes' option. As you have guessed, Barnes wanted a much richer contract and thought he had one from Toronto (2yrs/10M). Unfortunately, Toronto is incredibly incompetent and didn't have the ability under the CBA to make such an offer.

So Barnes went to the Lakers and signed a contract that gives him an out after one year. If he has a good season, he'll likely opt out and take one more shot a richer deal.

In the end, you have absolutely nothing to support the notion that Barnes was there for the taking. It was really funny that you thought that the Spurs could have taken the money used for Bonner's contract and spent it on a free agent. Thanks for the laugh.

Hey I never claimed to be a salary cap expert, I'm just a fan. And it's not a secret what motivated Barnes, he wanted a longer term deal and a solid role on a contender.

[ChumpDumper]

Is that why he was all set to sign w/ Toronto huh? Because Canada is just so much like the west coast up there, huh?He has signed with east coast teams before.

Now you are going to deny your own words as well as direct quotes from Matt Barnes himself. You are now claiming to know Matt Barnes better than Matt Barnes knows Matt Barnes. You need to realize just how stupid you are acting.
And ya I know, Barnes is from LA & went to UCLA .. really wasn't a big factor in his decision though.
Miami and the Lakers were the final two teams that it came down to. I had a chance to speak with Pat Riley and I had a chance to speak with Kobe and Mitch Kupchak. They were both offering the same (money)... both great teams... but the Lakers are a proven winning team (going for three in a row). And it came down to me being born and raised in California. Getting a chance to go to UCLA was a dream come true... and another dream of mine was to play for the Lakers. It came down to those two teams and I try to stay on the West Coast.

http://www.thenolookpass.com/2010/07/28/tnlp-talks-to-matt-barnes/

:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Hey I never claimed to be a salary cap expert, I'm just a fan.So don't pretend you know what players can be signed for. It will keep you from being caught lying over and over again.


And it's not a secret what motivated Barnes, he wanted a longer term deal and a solid role on a contender.It's not a secret, especially when he comes right out and says it in an interview. But you know Matt Barnes better than Matt Barnes knows Matt Barnes. You said so.

And lol @ Toronto's being a contender. That's lie #3 today.

[TJastal]

So don't pretend you know what players can be signed for. It will keep you from being caught lying over and over again.

I wasn't pretending anything. I overlooked a salary cap issue, which Mel_13 corrected me on. Apparently this is "pretending" rofl


It's not a secret, especially when he comes right out and says it in an interview. But you know Matt Barnes better than Matt Barnes knows Matt Barnes. You said so.

And lol @ Toronto's being a contender. That's lie #3 today.


I already told you he wanted long-term $$$$$ first, playing for a contender was a secondary concern. Can you comprehend this?

[Bruno]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/121948/2417893973_baf0b4d262.jpg

A quick google image search reveals that the formula is correct.


:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

I wasn't pretending anything. I overlooked a salary cap issue, which Mel_13 corrected me on. Apparently this is "pretending" roflYou admitted your ignorance on salary matters you pretended you knew.

Thanks.


I already told you he wanted long-term $$$$$ first, playing for a contender was a secondary concern. Can you comprehend this?Why did he decide on the Lakers instead of the Heat?

[z0sa]

I bet tjastal is also pretending he didn't get e-raped in this thread.

[UnWantedTheory]

I am not going to respond, other than to say I am not responding. So my response of not responding is now over. Unresponsive responder OUT!!!

[cheguevara]

well they are sucking tonight vs. Suns

[The Truth #6]

well they are sucking tonight vs. Suns

And this makes you happy?

[cheguevara]

And this makes you happy?

goes to show it's pretty dumb to judge after 1 good game :downspin:

[arodz]

well they are sucking tonight vs. Suns

Spurs Win!! Dumbass. Looks like I don't have to call him "Dick Jefferson" anymore.