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Homeland Security

11-03-2010, 02:14 PM

Widespread voter fraud is tainting alleged Democratic Senate "victories" from Tuesday's elections.

In Nevada, Harry Reid partisans in Las Vegas executed a "power outage" at polling stations in order to "reset" electronic voting data to tallies more favorable to Reid. This explains the gap between exit polls, which showed Republican challenger Sharron Angle winning easily, and the "official" tallies, which a deeply unpopular Harry Reid coasting to re-election.

In Colorado, left-wing officials in Denver and Boulder County carried out the typical Democratic strategy of waiting for returns in the rest of the state while claiming they have "thousands of votes yet to count," so they can see how many fake ballots to add to the total and eke out a close "victory."

A similar dynamic is working in Washington state, where Patty Murray partisans in King County snicker; they are finding as many "boxes of uncounted votes" in car trunks as necessary to ensure Murray holds off Dino Rossi.

And in West Virginia, "popular" governor Joe Manchin vastly exceeded the predicted vote totals from late polling, indicating a possible overreach in vote fraud to ensure Robert Byrd's old seat in this historically corrupt state remains in socialist hands.

The message to patriotic Americans? Stop trying to win elections. Democracy is a failure. A ballot has no effect until somebody counts it, but a bullet counts itself.

Stop trying to vote out your enemies; KILL THEM. With a military coup, there is no need to wait for the corrupt, inefficient "political process" to deliver the results needed to restore America's greatness and eliminate its internal traitors.

hater

11-03-2010, 02:31 PM

The message to patriotic Americans? Stop trying to win elections. Democracy is a failure. A ballot has no effect until somebody counts it, but a bullet counts itself.

The same exact message sent out in 2000???

interesting :toast

xrayzebra

11-03-2010, 02:32 PM

Quick someone call in Al Franken, he is an expert in these
matters........

PuttPutt

11-03-2010, 02:39 PM

WA state won't be done counting votes for a couple more days. 38 of the 39 counties in the state are mail-in ballots only. If you live in King county (Seattle area) you got to go out to the polls & vote. The mail-in ballots only had to be postmarked yesterday. I mailed in mine yeterday. So, today is the earliest that my vote would be counted. Probably won't be counted till tomorrow though.

Whether or not there is fraud, we'll see.

vy65

11-03-2010, 02:40 PM

tbh, best way to start a coup is posting on internet politics forums

lol bullet

boutons_deux

11-03-2010, 02:51 PM

If Repugs win, it's legit, The American People have spoken.

If Dems win, it's widespread vote fraud.

Ashy Larry

11-03-2010, 03:06 PM

lol @ politics .... I can see why I dropped Political Science as a major.

The Gemini Method

11-03-2010, 03:17 PM

lol @ politics .... I can see why I dropped Political Science as a major.

That...and a lack of quality pus$y...

Ashy Larry

11-03-2010, 03:23 PM

That...and a lack of quality pus$y...

basically ..... at quality twat. All the hot chicks were in choir and theatrical classes.

DarrinS

11-03-2010, 03:26 PM

If Repugs win, it's legit, The American People have spoken.

If Dems win, it's widespread vote fraud.

Sincerely,

Al Gore

The Gemini Method

11-03-2010, 03:35 PM

basically ..... at quality twat. All the hot chicks were in choir and theatrical classes.

At USC--they were in the Annenburg School of Communications, the football field during cheer practice, or doing the walk of shame from Fraternity Row...

Ashy Larry

11-03-2010, 03:48 PM

man @ USC ....... L.A.'s most prestigious institution dropped in the middle of the hood ..... lol

The Gemini Method

11-03-2010, 03:57 PM

man @ USC ....... L.A.'s most prestigious institution dropped in the middle of the hood ..... lol

A reputation mostly unearned if you knew what you were doing. I mean, it is in the middle of a shaky area, but if you didn't go looking for trouble in the Hoover or Blood areas and you'll be fine...

Ashy Larry

11-03-2010, 04:15 PM

yeah, I grew up forty blocks south of SC ..... it's like West Los Angeles next to a freeway that Rick Ross made famous.

Sincerely,

Al Gore

I think most people can see Gore was robbed. I don't believe in coincidences but when the final state in questioned is being governed by one of the candidates brother, there's an issues. a 1/50 chance. LOL

DMX7

11-03-2010, 06:34 PM

A reputation mostly unearned if you knew what you were doing. I mean, it is in the middle of a shaky area, but if you didn't go looking for trouble in the Hoover or Blood areas and you'll be fine...

It's the hood. On campus looks pretty secure though, so as long as you stay there, you're fine. I think that's what you mean.

Wild Cobra

11-03-2010, 06:55 PM

I would say that voting fraud is obvious in Nevada. Don't know about elsewhere, but I will stick with that for now.

clambake

11-03-2010, 06:56 PM

I would say that voting fraud is obvious in Alaska. Don't know about elsewhere, but I will stick with that for now.

baseline bum

11-03-2010, 07:00 PM

A reputation mostly unearned if you knew what you were doing. I mean, it is in the middle of a shaky area, but if you didn't go looking for trouble in the Hoover or Blood areas and you'll be fine...

If you ask me, USC's prestige is fully unearned. :toast

ChumpDumper

11-04-2010, 04:16 AM

I would say that voting fraud is obvious in Nevada.What is your evidence?

The Gemini Method

11-04-2010, 12:36 PM

It's the hood. On campus looks pretty secure though, so as long as you stay there, you're fine. I think that's what you mean.

In the years I spent there, I wound up parking on occasion outside of the campus and frequented the taquerias and such around the campuses that my safety never came into question. But, what I meant was if you feel that you feel safest by staying on the campus, well, then by all means stay on the USC campus.

If you ask me, USC's prestige is fully unearned. :toast

How so? While you could make this claim 15-20 years ago, the university under Steve Sample improved the quality of education @ USC. I do believe the ranking nationally has improved to the point that the school is closer to offering an education comparble to UCLA and UC Berkeley nowadays that it is viable (if you can get past the tuition costs) as a choice. I mean, for me I'm glad that I went, but I find it increasingly difficult to say that I'd do it again if I were able to turn back the hands of time and that's a conversation for another time.

Thompson

11-04-2010, 01:17 PM

If Repugs win, it's legit, The American People have spoken.

If Dems win, it's widespread vote fraud.

Republicans want to require that voters show a photo ID to prior to voting.

Democrats want to avoid this requirement because it might intimidate voters -Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, among several others.

ChumpDumper

11-04-2010, 01:23 PM

Republicans want to require that voters show a photo ID to prior to voting.

Democrats want to avoid this requirement because it might intimidate voters -Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, among several others.When did those two actually vote?

Link?

Thompson

11-05-2010, 08:20 AM

admiralsnackbar

11-05-2010, 08:31 AM

Same shit every day in this place :lol

"Democrats... baaaaad!"

"No, Republicans... baaaadder!"

"No, Democrats baaadder!"

Repeat.

Since when is electoral fraud an issue that belongs to one party or the other? Since fucking never, people. Jesus.

Wild Cobra

11-05-2010, 10:06 AM

Since when is electoral fraud an issue that belongs to one party or the other? Since fucking never, people. Jesus.
So lets just agree to try to stop both parties from doing it.

admiralsnackbar

11-05-2010, 10:17 AM

So lets just agree to try to stop both parties from doing it.

Uh... were we opposed to such an arrangement before we made our agreement? :lol

boutons_deux

11-05-2010, 11:30 AM

"stop both parties from doing it."

There is NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud, NONE, NADA, and dubya's state AGs were told to frame cases, and those who didn't, were fired.

Dem voter fraud is just another VRWC lie to rouse the stupid rabble.

ChumpDumper

11-05-2010, 12:22 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1077707/Why-Mickey-Mouses-vote-Democrats-rebound-Obamas-chances-U-S-president.html

This was a well-publicized event Chump. Don't go full anal retard and say 'they only tried to register Mickey Mouse, he didn't actually vote.' While the average election worker might catch 'Mickey Mouse' walking into the site, they will miss the more realistic 'William Ackerson, Samantha Harker,' etc. In 2008, more people in Indianapolis were registered to vote than were eligible to vote.

http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/voting-early-often-indianapolis-bloated.html

Requiring voter photo ID would help to discourage some voter fraud. Follow the bouncing ball.What voter fraud?

Really, just give me some documented cases of voter fraud to prove to us all what a huge problem this is.

And no, it's pretty obvious the faux Mickey Mouse and the Dallas Cowboys did not vote. In most cases of the cases cited, it was ACORN itself that flagged those types of registrations as possibly fraudulent, which officials then followed up on them. ACORN was required by law to turn in ALL the registrations, even the ones they thought were fraudulent.

Thompson

11-05-2010, 12:56 PM

http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/voting-early-often-indianapolis-bloated.html

Requiring voter photo ID would help to discourage some voter fraud. Follow the bouncing ball.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/2/dead-in-ohio-but-still-voting/

http://www.oregoncatalyst.com/index.php/archives/3510-Oregon-AG-gets-guilty-plea-voter-fraud-case.html

The fact that more people were registered to vote than were eligible means that some of those names should not have been on the list, and yet were successfully registered. What would prevent those who registered them from going in an voting with those names? How do you track and prove voter fraud in those instances? In places where the dead vote it's obvious, and the fact that more people are registering to vote than are eligible demonstrates the potential for fraud. Why don't you explain why requiring a photo ID is a bad idea?

The next case wouldn't really be prevented by a photo ID requirement at the polls (fraud using absentee ballots) but further demonstrates the need to guard against voter fraud.
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/10/21/dna-democrats-troy-voter-fraud-case-goes-lab

ChumpDumper

11-05-2010, 01:04 PM

OK, there was one case of a proven vote of a dead person who wasn't taken off the rolls. Why not take dead people off the rolls? Problem solved in that case.

Alleged 16 more votes from dead people. Take dead people off the rolls.

The last was a case that didn't happen at the polls at all, so no ID law would have helped.

I was hoping for votes resulting from fraudulent registrations like those you brought up in the first place. Where would these cards be mailed to? Disneyland and Cowboy Stadium don't seem to be in the voting precincts involved.

Thompson

11-05-2010, 02:27 PM

OK, there was one case of a proven vote of a dead person who wasn't taken off the rolls. Why not take dead people off the rolls? Problem solved in that case.

Why not require voter photo ID? Problem solved in that case, and the following case...

Alleged 16 more votes from dead people. Take dead people off the rolls.

The last was a case that didn't happen at the polls at all, so no ID law would have helped.

The next case wouldn't really be prevented by a photo ID requirement at the polls (fraud using absentee ballots) but further demonstrates the need to guard against voter fraud.

I was hoping for votes resulting from fraudulent registrations like those you brought up in the first place. Where would these cards be mailed to? Disneyland and Cowboy Stadium don't seem to be in the voting precincts involved.

Don't go full anal retard and say 'they only tried to register Mickey Mouse, he didn't actually vote.' While the average election worker might catch 'Mickey Mouse' walking into the site, they will miss the more realistic 'William Ackerson, Samantha Harker,' etc. In 2008, more people in Indianapolis were registered to vote than were eligible to vote.

http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/voting-early-often-indianapolis-bloated.html

Requiring voter photo ID would help to discourage some voter fraud. Follow the bouncing ball.

I told you not to go full anal retard. Mickey Mouse was a humorous example of a fraudulent registration. Stop your obsession with Mickey Mouse, I already mentioned earlier in the thread that specific name would have most likely been prevented from voting anyway.

I gave you the example of Indianapolis, more people registered to vote than were eligible to vote. You asked for examples of voter fraud. I gave them to you.

If someone has already successfully registered an ineligible name (lets say a realistic one, like 'Sarah Henderson'), what would prevent them from walking into the polling place and voting with it?

What plausible harm can asking for photo ID do? We've seen evidence (as if we needed to) that people do try to abuse the system in various ways. We've seen evidence that more people were registered to vote in a city than were eligible to vote. Why not require photo ID to help prevent some forms of voter fraud? What is the real harm?

ChumpDumper

11-05-2010, 02:33 PM

Why not require voter photo ID? Problem solved in that case, and the following case...I'm not necessarily against the law. I just don't think voter fraud is that big a deal.

Thanks for proving that to be true.

boutons_deux

11-05-2010, 03:02 PM

"Why not require voter photo ID"

a lot of (poor) people (the Repug target of photo ID requirement) don't have passports nor driver licenses. You gonna pay for these people to have verified photo IDs made? Like a national identity card?

Photo ID is all rabble rousing and campaigning to solve non-problems

How about a photo ID requirement being offset by redrawing all districts back to geographic sense to nullify gerrymandering? Any Repugs for that?

TeyshaBlue

11-05-2010, 03:08 PM

Winehole23

11-07-2010, 04:22 AM

Temporarily incapacitated?

Too weak/mentally off-kilter to collect own mail or to read/understand it once collected? Cannot renew under his/her own power?

Too unsupported/uncared for by relatively worthless progeny and friends?

(Just asking. It happens sometimes.)

boutons_deux

11-07-2010, 10:57 AM

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/truthaboutvoterfraud/

ignorance is not cool

There plenty of data that there is no voter fraud, and no data that there is voter fraud. It's simple not an issue. It's Repug rabble rousing, and the ignorant rabble love to be roused.

otoh, there is plenty of data of Repug election stealing (OH 2004), corruption, dirty tricks, intimidation of blacks and browns.