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Gutter92
11-03-2010, 07:05 PM
for other people's medical bills?

For example. I am in line at the doctor's office. I pay for whoever was in front of me in line, and the person behind me pays for me, person behind him pays for him, etc.

Would this system work at all? For one of my classes, we are supposed to propose a valid healthcare system.

baseline bum
11-03-2010, 07:07 PM
for other people's medical bills?

For example. I am in line at the doctor's office. I pay for whoever was in front of me in line, and the person behind me pays for me, person behind him pays for him, etc.

Would this system work at all? For one of my classes, we are supposed to propose a valid healthcare system.

Write a paper about how you'd give everyone AIDS.

Gutter92
11-03-2010, 07:09 PM
Write a paper about how you'd give everyone AIDS.

Mature response.

We are supposed to come up with our own health care system that would work, obviously this is just the "general idea"- It is due on Dec 15th.

Anyways, I'd have to add stuff like how it would be taken out of taxes or something, some way to make it fair for everyone.

ElNono
11-03-2010, 07:10 PM
Using your brain is too much work?

baseline bum
11-03-2010, 07:13 PM
Mature response.

We are supposed to come up with our own health care system that would work, obviously this is just the "general idea"- It is due on Dec 15th.

Anyways, I'd have to add stuff like how it would be taken out of taxes or something, some way to make it fair for everyone.

Write about death panels then.

Gutter92
11-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Write about death panels then.

What are death panels? That word sounds familiar from the '08 campaign, but I never researched that stuff. Can you give me a short explanation? I cant be fucked to read a 3 page wikipedia or something

Wild Cobra
11-03-2010, 07:18 PM
Mature response.

We are supposed to come up with our own health care system that would work, obviously this is just the "general idea"- It is due on Dec 15th.

Anyways, I'd have to add stuff like how it would be taken out of taxes or something, some way to make it fair for everyone.
You've been given an impossible task.

Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions. What are the criteria?

BlairForceDejuan
11-03-2010, 07:21 PM
some way to make it fair for everyone.


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clambake
11-03-2010, 07:24 PM
i'd just kill the person in front of me.

BlairForceDejuan
11-03-2010, 07:30 PM
i'd just kill the person in front of me.

Fine. But you will have to pay their estate tax!

clambake
11-03-2010, 07:31 PM
i'd get half?

Gutter92
11-03-2010, 07:40 PM
i'd just kill the person in front of me.

Good point, free health care in prison.

Gutter92
11-03-2010, 07:41 PM
You've been given an impossible task.

Maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions. What are the criteria?

He wasn't very specific. He just told us about this today, said he'd get the info up online in about a week. He told us about it today so we could start thinking about it. Basically, it's gotta be a system fair for everybody, and one that would work.

Wild Cobra
11-03-2010, 08:01 PM
He wasn't very specific. He just told us about this today, said he'd get the info up online in about a week. He told us about it today so we could start thinking about it. Basically, it's gotta be a system fair for everybody, and one that would work.
Fair... by who's standards? Different people have different ideas about what is fair. My idea of fair will be radically different than most people here. If he's a typical indoctrinational type college professor rather than one who wants to see free thinking, find out his though of fair, and meet his standards. The task will be easier. However, I see it as an impossible task to do right.

As for working, there is no way to do so without making large groups of people unhappy.

Gutter92
11-03-2010, 08:16 PM
Fair... by who's standards? Different people have different ideas about what is fair. My idea of fair will be radically different than most people here. If he's a typical indoctrinational type college professor rather than one who wants to see free thinking, find out his though of fair, and meet his standards. The task will be easier. However, I see it as an impossible task to do right.

As for working, there is no way to do so without making large groups of people unhappy.

He said "whatever you think is fair" and left it at that.

Should I just ask if we can change the government type of the country to suit the project?

What if I suggest that everyone gets paid the same, therefore taxed the same, and the government uses this to pay for everyone's medical bills. Would this be "fair?"

Because everyone is paid the same and taxed the same, it should be fair because even terribly expensive injuries will be covered for everyone. The only people who would be upset about it are people who don't think they would ever get really sick or badly injured; in which case, isn't this the same as choosing between getting insurance(assuming you'll be hurt/sick/injured) or not getting insurance (assuming your health problems will be minimal: you save enough money in the longrun to pay for your own bills, + keep more?)

DarrinS
11-03-2010, 08:33 PM
for other people's medical bills?

For example. I am in line at the doctor's office. I pay for whoever was in front of me in line, and the person behind me pays for me, person behind him pays for him, etc.

Would this system work at all? For one of my classes, we are supposed to propose a valid healthcare system.



Awww, what a cute little utopian task your liberal teacher has assigned.


What if the guy in front of you needs a new kidney and you just need a flu shot?

boutons_deux
11-03-2010, 08:35 PM
Taxpayers already pay for other people's medical bills.

municipal/county public hospitals can't turn away anybody (unless you have insurance).

All the diabetics, obese fat asses, smokers cost 100s of $Bs/year.

If insurance picks up the bills, then insurance just ups their premiums to everybody.

If private insurance, doesn't pick up the bill, then the taxpayer does.

Hospitals that don't get reimbursed for treatment just up their prices to everybody who can pay.

baseline bum
11-03-2010, 08:36 PM
Awww, what a cute little utopian task your liberal teacher has assigned.


What if the guy in front of you needs a new kidney and you just need a flu shot?

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Gutter92
11-03-2010, 08:40 PM
Awww, what a cute little utopian task your liberal teacher has assigned.


What if the guy in front of you needs a new kidney and you just need a flu shot?

Uh, Walgreens offers flu shots btw.

Anyways, read my last post..

btw what makes you think my teacher is Liberal? Whats the difference between Liberal and Democrat? I thought Liberal was another word for Democrat, and Conservative for Republican.

coyotes_geek
11-03-2010, 08:42 PM
i'd just kill the person in front of me.

Hmm. Become your own death panel. I like it.

DarrinS
11-03-2010, 08:52 PM
Uh, Walgreens offers flu shots btw.

Anyways, read my last post..

btw what makes you think my teacher is Liberal? Whats the difference between Liberal and Democrat? I thought Liberal was another word for Democrat, and Conservative for Republican.


You're right. I shouldn't debase the word liberal. I should've said progressive.


What's really gonna fuck us over is when baby boomers start getting old, which is about now.

DarrinS
11-03-2010, 08:55 PM
Hmm. Become your own death panel. I like it.


I never understood why that term "death panel" freaked everyone out. There already are bureaucrats that make these decisions and there will only be more in the future.

Wild Cobra
11-03-2010, 08:57 PM
Uh, Walgreens offers flu shots btw.

Anyways, read my last post..

btw what makes you think my teacher is Liberal? Whats the difference between Liberal and Democrat? I thought Liberal was another word for Democrat, and Conservative for Republican.
You're right. Maybe he's conservative and making all his students understand just how impossible such a task would be.

Liberal/conservative is not the same a democrat/republican. Ideology does not always follow party.

In my dictionary, the far left, I call libtards rather than liberal. I call elected officials demonrats rather than democrats. I call the leftist media demoncraps instead of democrats.

Wild Cobra
11-03-2010, 08:58 PM
I never understood why that term "death panel" freaked everyone out. There already are bureaucrats that make these decisions and there will only be more in the future.
No kidding. It is common practice not to spend excessive money on someone who will die soon anyway.

Gutter92
11-03-2010, 09:07 PM
You're right. Maybe he's conservative and making all his students understand just how impossible such a task would be.


Would my post(about the government type) work?

Also, you said ideology doesn't follow party lines. How do you choose what party to be a "member" of? If it isn't necessarily one ideology. I'm genuinely curious; I've heard stuff like 3 senators(or representatives) voting with the other side, etc. How and why does this happen?

I'm enjoying the education here :D Appreciate your responses.

DarrinS
11-03-2010, 09:12 PM
Part of the problem is that we just live so damn long these days. Kind of a Catch-22, isn't it?

Wild Cobra
11-03-2010, 09:12 PM
Would my post(about the government type) work?

Also, you said ideology doesn't follow party lines. How do you choose what party to be a "member" of? If it isn't necessarily one ideology. I'm genuinely curious; I've heard stuff like 3 senators(or representatives) voting with the other side, etc. How and why does this happen?

I'm enjoying the education here :D Appreciate your responses.
I would suggest you look up various parties in wiki, read the summaries, and go to their linked sites and see what they say their agendas are. I'm not going to compile that much information for you. If you look into libertarians for example, you will find the common ground they have is anti-authoritarian. Otherwise, they vary a great deal between conservative and liberal ideology.

I would suggest leaving government type out of your argument except to say any required health care at a national level is adding authoritarianism and socialism or communism to our free nation, making it less free.

Wild Cobra
11-03-2010, 09:14 PM
Part of the problem is that we just live so damn long these days. Kind of a Catch-22, isn't it?

LOL...

No kidding. Those advocating 100% coverage one way or another also want their lives endlessly extended... Just how expensive can that get?

Spursmania
11-03-2010, 09:20 PM
Using your brain is too much work?

:lmao