Tayshaun prince/Rip Hamilton could come to spurs??

[Leonard Curse]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17804

i dont know what to think esp. after RJ's game! i say its too late we have to keep Rj hes finally got our system, and theres no way were going to give up three important pieces for 2 corpses!!! Yannis from hoopsworld folks said this:



Sending Rip, Prince To Texas: Charlie Villanueva isn't the only member of the Detroit Pistons that is upset right now, as Steve Kyler also went over this morning (http://spurstalk.com/Story.asp?story_id=17799). Things are really starting to fall apart in Motown with Coach Kuester pointing fingers at the players and their fingers pointing right back at him.

In the NBA At 2 Bill Ingram dismissed any notion (http://spurstalk.com/Story.asp?story_id=17801) that Josh Smith of the Atlanta Hawks or Chris Kaman of the Los Angeles Clippers could be headed to Detroit in exchange for Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince, who are desperate to be in winning situations.

Pistons general manager Joe Dumars made the mistake of trading 2006 Finals MVP Chauncy Billups a few years ago thinking that he could keep the team in contention without him. He's failed miserably and it's time to do Hamilton and Prince a favor and send them elsewhere.

Two teams in Texas would be more than willing to give Dumars quality offers for the two players who were cornerstones on the Pistons' 2006 championship team.

The Dallas Mavericks have been in need of some help at shooting guard for quite some time, lacking someone who plays the position naturally. Mavericks owner Mark Cuban would have no problem taking on Hamilton's contract that has three years and $38 million left on it. He would probably be willing to give up the expiring contract of Caron Butler and either one of his young centers Alexis Ajinca or Ian Mahinmi to make things work.

Meanwhile there may not be a player that San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich would love to acquire more than Prince. Popovich has been longing for a lockdown defender on the perimeter ever since Bruce Bowen called it a career. Prince is an ideal fit for the Spurs' system and someone they'd be ecstatic to get in the program, especially this year to help make another championship run with Duncan.

The Spurs could put Richard Jefferson, who is looking much better in comparison to last year, and former Piston Antonio McDyess on the table for Prince. If that's not enough to get Dumars to bite, he could probably hold out for promising second-year forward DeJuan Blair if he wants him badly enough.

The time has come to start a completely new era in Detroit. Prince and Hamilton deserve better than what they have right now. They've been hopeful and patient for long enough, it's time to let them go. If Dumars picks up the phone he'll find two parties very interested in their services in Texas.



Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17804#ixzz14IHDv8FH

pretty strange to hear, yannis does cover this area and ive seen him in our locker room. he soesnt seem like a guy who talks out of his ass ala eric pincus. WHAT DO U GUYS THINK?? prince does offer defense but for those 3 players ? i dont like it one bit.

[DesignatedT]

retarded. hoopsworld.

[itzsoweezee]

way too high of a price tag for prince. and what's his salary this year? do those numbers even match?

[Leonard Curse]

what if pop pulled this move and said "what you guys said you wanted defense??" lmao

[Death In June]

retarded. hoopsworld..

[AFBlue]

Terrible, just terrible.

[SenorSpur]

With another yawn and roll of the eyes, let's all say it out loud, "It's Hoopsworld!"

[Leonard Curse]

i would think yannis would know better than to regurgitate this. it may sound really dumb but you guys better pray old man pop doesnt get a wild hair up his ass hahaha

[jestersmash]

Jefferson and Dyess.... for Prince?

Excuse me while I die of laughter

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[AFBlue]

i would think yannis would know better than to regurgitate this. it may sound really dumb but you guys better pray old man pop doesnt get a wild hair up his ass hahaha

It's just weak...

Pistons crumbling leads to trade Rip/Prince and Pop has had interest leads to Prince to Spurs for RJ/Dice and/or Blair?

[jestersmash]

Mahinmi as a trading piece? What in the fucking fuck?

[EricB]

:lmao

I thought people were prohibited from posting junk from that website?

[G-Dawgg]

Don't undervalue Prince...HE IS the kind of long perimeter ball hawk/defender that would make our defense legit again.....

[DJB]

I agree, way too high of a price tag for Prince.

[SenorSpur]

Don't undervalue Prince...HE IS the kind of long perimeter ball hawk/defender that would make our defense legit again.....

I actually thought he was a declining player. Haven't seen much of him in the past year or so.

[Spur|n|Austin]

With another yawn and roll of the eyes, let's all say it out loud, "It's Hoopsworld!"

[Leonard Curse]

oops my fault. i posted it asap cause i thought it was legit, once i started to think about it i felt like a dumbass for posting.

however it would be nice to see bonner/simmons 2 get traded for one of these guys :flypig

[G-Dawgg]

Too much of a price indeed, but for the right price, realistically...he may be the piece we need...

[jestersmash]

Can we just get rip hamilton (or prince) for free. That'd be nice. :downspin:

[Leonard Curse]

I actually thought he was a declining player. Haven't seen much of him in the past year or so.

if you look at his season stats from when he enterd the nba hes been very consistent about 14pts 5rbs 3ass his whole career. i mean if the price tag wasnt so high this would be amazing!

what sucks is this is the one season we dont have a bunch of dead weight or trade pieces... OF COURSE !DAMN! to have tayshaun is never a bad thing esp in our system

[ezau]

Dumb shit

[ShoogarBear]

Jefferson and Dyess.... for Prince?

Excuse me while I die of laughter

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Dumars: Okay, how about Jefferson, Dice, and Blair for Prince then?

[jestersmash]

There's no replacement for displacement...err wait, that's cars.

There's artistry in team chemistry. You can't put a price on Jefferson having a year under his belt versus a Tayshuan prince (hypothetically...hopefully in my nightmares) coming in and taking his spot.

[jestersmash]

Dumars: Okay, how about Jefferson, Dice, and Blair for Prince then?

Thoughts of a true madman.

Dumars: Ok guys, Ok I get it you don't want the short end of the stick. Prince for Ginobili final offer

[jjktkk]

I actually thought he was a declining player. Haven't seen much of him in the past year or so.

He is. Still a solid over all player, but back problems, and getting long in the tooth. IMO not worth giving up anything substantial as far as draft picks, young players.

[ynh]

Why would the pistons trade Prince for Dick Jefferson? Prince's salary is up after the year... why would we want to trade him for a player on a bad contract when his contract is over after the end of the year? Terrible article.

This was the best part of the article "Joe Dumars made the mistake of trading 2006 Finals MVP Chauncy Billups a few years ago"... Seriously is this the laziest ass writer around? Check your shit it was 2004.

[mountainballer]

jesus. that guy writes an article about the Pistons and doesn't even know when they won their last title. (first I thought it was a typo, but he did it twice. clueless moron really thinks they won the 2006 title).

oh. and sure it would be nice to get Prince for the back up SF spot. if the Pistons buy him out and he signs for min./LLE.
which won't happen.
every other scenario to bring his 11 million contract to SA via trade is just so unbelievable ridiculous it isn't worth one second of discussion.

[mudyez]

i love prince on the spurs

...but thats way to much...

and for that matter: when RJ seems to be more comfortable with the system, we switch him for a guy, that will be comfortable in 11/12???

RJ straight up ok...but not with dyess or blair included!

[Darkwaters]

This trade makes perfect sense.

Hell, while we're at it lets revitalize an old favorite:
Vaughn + Oberto + Mahinmi for LeBron

[will_spurs]

The best thing that could happen in the "raising the bar" effort would be Hoopsworld going the same way as E-N and preventing people from reproducing their "material" here.

[ChumpDumper]

i would think yannis would know better than to regurgitate this.He didn't regurgitate it, he just made it up.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Where do people come up with this shit?

[ynh]

I've often thought there are writers that have a dart board with each players picture on it.. they take two (sometimes 3 or 4) darts and throw them at the dart board.. whatever players the darts land on they then write an article about how there is a rumor that there might be a trade going down.

Seriously the only logical way this is done.. this person didn't even take one second to ask why would detroit do this.. or why would san an do this.. both of which are followed with a resounding "there is no chance in hell either would want to". Although I do have a feeling the pistons would be the first to laugh... but in the end both would hang up pretty quickly.

[Josepatches_]

Prince for Jefferson? It could be interesting but I'm not sure if it's a good trade.Not for the "new" Jefferson but everybody had done it last summer.

Prince for Jefferson + Dice? No,thanks.

[ezau]

Prince for Mahinmi. Hey wait a minute....

[NickiRasgo]

2006 Finals MVP! lol

[Leonard Curse]

He didn't regurgitate it, he just made it up.

well not if he heard this trade rumor and wrote about it. youre probably right though this sounds fabricated. i was noticing how eric pincus wrote an article about the spurs which was titled "spurs focus on execution" lmao

it was nothing but statements made by pop/& spurs players in quotation!! im not exaggerating at all check this piece of crap out its worth the laugh http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17803 .

if you dont know by now Eric pincus hates the spurs with a passion and is such a laker homer its ridiculous! typical geek from L.A acting arrogant.

when they didnt have much control on the article comments i would get into major arguements with that moron, now he just denies them and never answers any questions concerning San Antonio. lol i regard his articles as the "funnies in a newspaper "

[Leonard Curse]

it seems as if the hoopsworld crew are required to write certain articles or have some sort of quota, albeit from a bank of random topics for articles in a computer! thats it! we should hack their system and put timmy pics everywhere haha

[dunkman]

The Spurs will be able to sign Tay for the MLE the next season, without giving anything.

[Mark in Austin]

Because he's in the last year of his contract, I could see Prince asking Dumars for a release / buyout close to the deadline so he could sign with a playoff team. That's the only way he winds up in SA though.

[Budkin]

I think Hoopsworld just makes shit up. Realliy.

[bigfan]

One of the stoopiddist articles Ive read on trades. Dickie J AND McDyess??? I doubt I would trade Neal for him.

[Kriz-Maxima]

First the rumblings are that Dumars hands are tied till new ownership takes over. But even after that there is no way he trades our expiring contract for a long term SF when he already has 4 on the roster.

I don't see the Spurs giving away two bigs for a SF.

[Obstructed_View]

Hey, this one works!

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/Yeahbaby.jpg

[Spursfan092120]

No way in HELL we let go of Blair...period...

[ohmwrecker]

This thread is pissing me off. Kill it with fire!

[MoSpur]

LOL at that article. I usually don't bash Hoopsworld because I see no point. I don't take them serious at all and this article is a huge reason why. I'm sure Rip and Prince want out of Detroit, but c'mon. The Spurs would be really dumb to give up all those pieces for one player.

That's like saying Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol.

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Prince is useless. And we are not Memphis.

[sananspursfan21]

even last years jefferson wouldn't be worth it in those deals

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Jefferson and Dice for Prince? I know it's Hoopsworld, but that's even bad for them!

[jag]

Hey, this one works!

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/Yeahbaby.jpg

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/9459/trade.jpg

[hater]

Prince hasn't been a lockdown defender since 06

[Obstructed_View]

Hey yeah. Maybe if we throw in a draft pick or two Joe might be convinced to part with Prince and Hamilton. What a team we'd have then!

[Leonard Curse]

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/9459/trade.jpg


jag your always on top of your sigs haha man how embarassing that wall dance was :lmao

[crc21209]

Hell nah...maybe 3 or 4 years ago but not now...too old and washed up.

[UnWantedTheory]

where does the story say Rip is coming?

prince would be an upgrade over RJ though thats for sure. we'd be dumb as shit not to make that move if we can.

Are serious?

[AussieFanKurt]

Rj>prince

[stxspurs]

we cant let go of jefferson...at least not now.

[ohmwrecker]

My how the tide has turned . . .

[Bruno]

It would be strange for Spurs to trade RJ just at the moment where it works.

The most problematic with this guess is on Pistons side. It makes absolutely no sense for them to take RJ contract while they are rebuilding.

[Obstructed_View]

Can the Spurs trade RJ for Prince and then turn around and trade his expiring? If they could, is there anything they can get that would be an upgrade over an RJ that seems to be getting it?

[Yannis Koutroupis]

Hey guys,

Wanted to get a few points in then feel free to let the beating commence.

First, nothing really to say about the error on the year that the Pistons won the championship other than that's embarrassing and unacceptable. In my rush to meet my daily 5 pm deadline I didn't double-check all the facts, something that's gotten me in trouble more times than I'd like to acknowledge. I'd explain how 2006 came out of my head, but it doesn't change that I should have verified it and didn't. So, I'll leave that out.

Secondly, I nearly posted this article myself in fear that it would be taken the wrong way. However, I'm not a huge fan of pushing my stuff on message boards unless it's breaking news or original material with quotes that you guys don't already get from the S.A. Express, who do a far better job in covering the team day-to-day than I'm capable of doing from Corpus Christi. Typically, anything I do Spurs related that warrants discussion gets posted by one of the members here anyway, so I rarely feel like there's a need for me to do it myself.

Starting in July I was given the NBA PM column at HOOPSWORLD, which consists of the top 3-5 stories in the league and anything that I feel the need to touch on. It corresponds with the NBA AM and NBA At 2, which do the exact same job. Coming up with stuff to talk about when two columns do the exact same thing I do earlier in the day is not always the easiest thing, so there are days where I'll have to speculate and build on ideas I suggest. The idea actually stemmed from the Pistons conflicts being talked about in the AM, and two trade targets being shot down in the At 2.

Yesterday's piece on Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton was purely me playing connect the dots and throwing a few ideas out there that were more realistic to me than the ones covered in the At 2. I know that several people who posted in this thread aren't hot on that method of writing - but when you have to write daily and cover 3-5 stories in the evening, it's sometimes the best way to stir up some conversation and debate rather than talking about Antawn Jamison's status for practice tomorrow.

Where I messed up, and what almost made me post it myself, is that I didn't make it extremely clear enough that it was purely speculative. I was hoping that it wouldn't get taken as something possibly being discussed by excluding terms like "sources say" or "the spurs have inquired about". That didn't happen, though.

Now, onto the proposal (only going to talk about Prince since that's who people here care about). I actually caught some heat from within for suggesting that Blair would be included in ANY deal.

Because the Spurs are such a tight-lipped organization with their moves there's nobody who can truly say whether or not Blair is actually untouchable. However, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't be attainable in the right deal and honestly I think Prince is a player who they would be willing to let him go for.

When trying to judge whether or not the Spurs would do a specific deal or include certain players in trades I always try to go along with what they've done in the past. Blair, as much of a steal as he was and as solid as he's been, is not irreplaceable to me - especially when you already have guys like McDyess, Splitter and Bonner. He's a great role player to have, but if he's the difference maker in getting a piece that can make you a championship contender you do it. I don't know about guys, but I personally see DeJuan being moved to the second unit sometime in the next month or two for Splitter due to his excessive turnovers and struggles containing his own man defensively.

As far as Prince and Jefferson are concerned, unlike most here apparently, I'd taken Prince in the Spurs' system based on how he can defend. I know someone said he hasn't been a lockdown defender since 2006, but the Pistons have been in a free fall since 2006 while playing musical chairs with head coaches. There's no doubt in my mind had he been a Spur he'd still be known for his ability to really slow down some of the best perimeter players in the league. I also have plenty of confidence in saying that if you swap out Jefferson for Prince last year that the Spurs are in the WCF's and not the Suns.

Is Jefferson and another big too much for Prince straight up? You guys probably got me there. The deal would be much more reasonable if I had another Pistons big like Maxiell coming with Prince.

Another question I saw come up is if the Pistons would even be willing to take on Jefferson's contract. I think that Jefferson's deal isn't more than his value like his last contract. If you factor in the 10-15% rollback that owners are reportedly looking for in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement it'll be especially nice for someone of his caliber. Also, I don't think there are going to be other teams willing to offer a player better than RJ. Because of those factors, I think he's a nice player for the Pistons to get as they approach rebuilding effort.

The chemistry concerns that come with making such a trade are absolutely legitimate and probably a bit overlooked by me due to how great of a fit I think Prince is. However, as RJ told me in training camp - he's only played one style of basketball his entire career prior to getting to S.A., which is up tempo. That's not the case with Prince. He's played, and won a championship under, a discipline-oriented, defense-first head coach in Larry Brown. I think he'd be able to fit in much easier than RJ, who needed a lot of time to adjust to the demands of being a Spur.

I think I've covered just about every base on this. Again, feel the need to apologize for not making the speculative nature of this piece clearer. After reading this though, I hope everyone can understand a little bit more where it came from and take it for more than just made up crap.

I try to keep an an eye on these forums for my work in case any issues like these come up because I haven't found a more popular Spurs message board. In the case that I ever miss something, I'm never one to run from my material and have no trouble explaining further. If you don't hear from me, you can always shoot me an email at [email protected] or a tweet at twitter.com/yannishw to let me know that something I wrote came off as moronic and needs explanation.

Sorry about the length of this post - wanted to cover everything!

[Supergirl]

None of the players the article mentions are worth giving up for Prince, and I love Prince. But not even Dice, and certainly not RJ (now that he's playing well) and Blair. Prince is a talented defender but he's old and injury prone.

[ynh]

None of the players the article mentions are worth giving up for Prince, and I love Prince. But not even Dice, and certainly not RJ (now that he's playing well) and Blair. Prince is a talented defender but he's old and injury prone.

Old and injury prone? Are you joking.. he is 30 and had 6 straight seasons where he didn't miss a game.. he missed 33 games in a 8 year career and he is injury prone? Seriously?

[ynh]

497 consecutive games played streak and he is injury prone?

[ChuckD]

Prince really only played hard for LB. He wasn't much before LB got there, and has really relaxed as a defender since LB left.

[ynh]

Not really.. his defence went down when B. Wallace left.. D never had anything to do with Brown.. if anything Brown was guilty of using Prince wrongly (Prince on Duncan). But Prince was so "good" at D because he could cheat like a Mo Fo with Big Ben back there.. much of the time he would just funnel the player to ben. Had nothing to do with LB..

Also he was pretty good (but in the same manner) before LB got there.. He shut down Tmac when we were about to get knocked out by the Magic in the first round.. he doesn't step up we get swept by an 8th seed that year.

[UnWantedTheory]

Even still, 50% of it doesnt make much basketball or business sense.

[UnWantedTheory]

Tay is also going to be 31 in about 3 months or so....

[ynh]

Oh I agree.. I don't think it makes sense.. I do think people on here for some reason think tay is much worse then he really is.. the injury prone comment was just straight up retarded. I think tay is the better player between he and Jefferson of last year (and I'm not one to say that because Jefferson has been good for 5 games that last year was a fluke).. But the comment that an individual wouldn't even trade Dice for Prince and that Prince is old (really is that a concern to you guys seeing the ages of Manu and Tim?) and injury prone was just too much to not comment.

Either way it would never happen.. Your team and reasons for not making the trade aside, this would be probably the dumbest trade I could ever imagin the Pistons making. But it's hoopsworld.. or whatever that site is called.. I figure they didn't put any thought into it.

[ynh]

He'll get traded by the deadline.. and it will be to a west team I'm sure.. but it won't be the spurs... just nothing there to make it work.

[DrSteffo]

LOL Pistons fans wants to tank the season and get rid of their old half injured over the top vets with ridiculous contracts. No thanks. For your young SFs...I would say maybe.

[ynh]

Tay is an expiring contract you idiot.

[Leonard Curse]

Hey guys,

Wanted to get a few points in then feel free to let the beating commence.

First, nothing really to say about the error on the year that the Pistons won the championship other than that's embarrassing and unacceptable. In my rush to meet my daily 5 pm deadline I didn't double-check all the facts, something that's gotten me in trouble more times than I'd like to acknowledge. I'd explain how 2006 came out of my head, but it doesn't change that I should have verified it and didn't. So, I'll leave that out.

Secondly, I nearly posted this article myself in fear that it would be taken the wrong way. However, I'm not a huge fan of pushing my stuff on message boards unless it's breaking news or original material with quotes that you guys don't already get from the S.A. Express, who do a far better job in covering the team day-to-day than I'm capable of doing from Corpus Christi. Typically, anything I do Spurs related that warrants discussion gets posted by one of the members here anyway, so I rarely feel like there's a need for me to do it myself.

Starting in July I was given the NBA PM column at HOOPSWORLD, which consists of the top 3-5 stories in the league and anything that I feel the need to touch on. It corresponds with the NBA AM and NBA At 2, which do the exact same job. Coming up with stuff to talk about when two columns do the exact same thing I do earlier in the day is not always the easiest thing, so there are days where I'll have to speculate and build on ideas I suggest. The idea actually stemmed from the Pistons conflicts being talked about in the AM, and two trade targets being shot down in the At 2.

Yesterday's piece on Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton was purely me playing connect the dots and throwing a few ideas out there that were more realistic to me than the ones covered in the At 2. I know that several people who posted in this thread aren't hot on that method of writing - but when you have to write daily and cover 3-5 stories in the evening, it's sometimes the best way to stir up some conversation and debate rather than talking about Antawn Jamison's status for practice tomorrow.

Where I messed up, and what almost made me post it myself, is that I didn't make it extremely clear enough that it was purely speculative. I was hoping that it wouldn't get taken as something possibly being discussed by excluding terms like "sources say" or "the spurs have inquired about". That didn't happen, though.

Now, onto the proposal (only going to talk about Prince since that's who people here care about). I actually caught some heat from within for suggesting that Blair would be included in ANY deal.

Because the Spurs are such a tight-lipped organization with their moves there's nobody who can truly say whether or not Blair is actually untouchable. However, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't be attainable in the right deal and honestly I think Prince is a player who they would be willing to let him go for.

When trying to judge whether or not the Spurs would do a specific deal or include certain players in trades I always try to go along with what they've done in the past. Blair, as much of a steal as he was and as solid as he's been, is not irreplaceable to me - especially when you already have guys like McDyess, Splitter and Bonner. He's a great role player to have, but if he's the difference maker in getting a piece that can make you a championship contender you do it. I don't know about guys, but I personally see DeJuan being moved to the second unit sometime in the next month or two for Splitter due to his excessive turnovers and struggles containing his own man defensively.

As far as Prince and Jefferson are concerned, unlike most here apparently, I'd taken Prince in the Spurs' system based on how he can defend. I know someone said he hasn't been a lockdown defender since 2006, but the Pistons have been in a free fall since 2006 while playing musical chairs with head coaches. There's no doubt in my mind had he been a Spur he'd still be known for his ability to really slow down some of the best perimeter players in the league. I also have plenty of confidence in saying that if you swap out Jefferson for Prince last year that the Spurs are in the WCF's and not the Suns.

Is Jefferson and another big too much for Prince straight up? You guys probably got me there. The deal would be much more reasonable if I had another Pistons big like Maxiell coming with Prince.

Another question I saw come up is if the Pistons would even be willing to take on Jefferson's contract. I think that Jefferson's deal isn't more than his value like his last contract. If you factor in the 10-15% rollback that owners are reportedly looking for in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement it'll be especially nice for someone of his caliber. Also, I don't think there are going to be other teams willing to offer a player better than RJ. Because of those factors, I think he's a nice player for the Pistons to get as they approach rebuilding effort.

The chemistry concerns that come with making such a trade are absolutely legitimate and probably a bit overlooked by me due to how great of a fit I think Prince is. However, as RJ told me in training camp - he's only played one style of basketball his entire career prior to getting to S.A., which is up tempo. That's not the case with Prince. He's played, and won a championship under, a discipline-oriented, defense-first head coach in Larry Brown. I think he'd be able to fit in much easier than RJ, who needed a lot of time to adjust to the demands of being a Spur.

I think I've covered just about every base on this. Again, feel the need to apologize for not making the speculative nature of this piece clearer. After reading this though, I hope everyone can understand a little bit more where it came from and take it for more than just made up crap.

I try to keep an an eye on these forums for my work in case any issues like these come up because I haven't found a more popular Spurs message board. In the case that I ever miss something, I'm never one to run from my material and have no trouble explaining further. If you don't hear from me, you can always shoot me an email at [email protected] or a tweet at Twitter.com/YannisHW (http://twitter.com/yannishw) to let me know that something I wrote came off as moronic and needs explanation.

Sorry about the length of this post - wanted to cover everything!

i really respect yannis for doing this, he knows what he messed up on, and maybe even right b/c of the simmons departure. i would hope pop would give Rj more time before pulling the trigger after hes fitting in so well. i can admit his defense is nothing compared to princes, that is if tayshaun can keep up these days. but it looks like we need Rj'S scoring abilities more than we realized

[jestersmash]

i really respect yannis for doing this, he knows what he messed up on, and maybe even right b/c of the simmons departure. i would hope pop would give Rj more time before pulling the trigger after hes fitting in so well. i can admit his defense is nothing compared to princes, that is if tayshaun can keep up these days. but it looks like we need Rj'S scoring abilities more than we realized

He didn't "mess up" on anything. It's just an article with a man giving his opinions.

Short of using hollinger's trade system, there's no objectively correct answer to any of this.

He posted an opinion that virtually 100% of spurs fans disagree with, and that's that.

[DrSteffo]

Tay is an expiring contract you idiot.

LOL name calling homer fan, crawl back to your cave and suck on your old vets dicks. 1-4 great start :lol

[Leonard Curse]

He didn't "mess up" on anything. It's just an article with a man giving his opinions.

Short of using hollinger's trade system, there's no objectively correct answer to any of this.

He posted an opinion that virtually 100% of spurs fans disagree with, and that's that.

why dont you read the article again instead of trying to act like you know what the heck your talking about. here ill give you a hint he "messed up" on his nba facts! now that has nothing to do with opinion whatsoever.

im not one to bash anyone over their opinions in fact i love hearing everyones point of view and learn alot from it, im just saying i respect him for coming on here and sharing the motive behind his article.