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v2freak
11-04-2010, 08:46 PM
I often like to lurk around this political section even though I can't keep up with technical political terms or anything like that. Are most people here liberal or conservative? I'm interested to know how people perceive the make up of ST and who actually responds.

I, personally, consider myself independent although both sides have accused me of being the other side in the past.

Nbadan
11-04-2010, 08:59 PM
The majority of people here are libertarian...Keep up!

coyotes_geek
11-04-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm sure everyone who offers up an answer to your question is going to have a different opinion on the political makeup here. But IMO I think it's a pretty even split here covering the entire political spectrum. Sure, you've got very distinct and vocal groups of lefty wingnuts and righty wingnuts bookending this forum. But in between them I think there's a solid group of strongly opinionated and intelligent people spanning both sides of the idealogical middle.

Wild Cobra
11-04-2010, 09:10 PM
The majority of people here are libertarian...Keep up!
I disagree. Too many are hard left and authoritarian here.

jack sommerset
11-04-2010, 09:12 PM
When has Dan been right about anything? Certainly didn't see the other night coming!

jack sommerset
11-04-2010, 09:14 PM
I'm sure everyone who offers up an answer to your question is going to have a different opinion on the political makeup here. But IMO I think it's a pretty even split here covering the entire political spectrum. Sure, you've got very distinct and vocal groups of lefty wingnuts and righty wingnuts bookending this forum. But in between them I think there's a solid group of strongly opinionated and intelligent people spanning both sides of the idealogical middle.

You have to admit the lefty faggots in here never shut the fuck up and always have to have last word.

coyotes_geek
11-04-2010, 09:15 PM
So many possible ways to respond to that....................

ElNono
11-04-2010, 09:15 PM
I disagree. Too many are extreme right and authoritarian here.

ElNono
11-04-2010, 09:16 PM
:lol

Wild Cobra
11-04-2010, 09:18 PM
I disagree. Too many are extreme right and authoritarian here.
Wow...

We agree most here are not libertarian!

ElNono
11-04-2010, 09:19 PM
We agree most here are not libertarian!

Depends. Everybody has a different definition of what being a libertarian is.

ChumpDumper
11-04-2010, 09:37 PM
Wow...

We agree most here are not libertarian!I agree you aren't.

Wild Cobra
11-04-2010, 09:45 PM
Depends. Everybody has a different definition of what being a libertarian is.
I think this is pretty complete. Please read:

Libertarian Party 2010 Platform (http://www.lp.org/platform)

Do you really think the anti-authoritarian nature of the platform would include the liberals here who want more and more regulation, taxing the rich more, political correctness, anti-capitalism, etc.

ElNono
11-04-2010, 09:48 PM
I think this is pretty complete. Please read:

Libertarian Party 2010 Platform (http://www.lp.org/platform)

Do you really think the anti-authoritarian nature of the platform would include the liberals here who want more and more regulation, taxing the rich more, political correctness, anti-capitalism, etc.

Not all liberals here want all those things. Just like not all right wingers here agree with all the GOP platform stated goals. And not all libertarians agree with all the stated goals on the platform above.

That's why your keep failing by generalizing.

Wild Cobra
11-04-2010, 09:50 PM
Not all liberals here want all those things. Just like not all right wingers here agree with all the GOP platform stated goals. And not all libertarians agree with all the stated goals on the platform above.

That's why your keep failing by generalizing.
To be called a libertarian, I would say you should agree with at least 80% of that platform. I would say I am one of the few who fit that category.

ElNono
11-04-2010, 09:56 PM
To be called a libertarian, I would say you should agree with at least 80% of that platform. I would say I am one of the few who fit that category.

I would classify you as a extreme right authoritarian. Just opinion.

Then again, we got back to the silliness of the OP. Most people see themselves quite differently as other people see them.

Wild Cobra
11-04-2010, 10:20 PM
I would classify you as a extreme right authoritarian. Just opinion.

Oh, please...

Explain that one.

Then again, we got back to the silliness of the OP. Most people see themselves quite differently as other people see them.
This I agree with. However, people can be as ignorant as they want. I really doubt few who call themselves libertarian have read and understand the libertarian platform. You obviously don't understand it if you read it. I fit almost every category.

ElNono
11-04-2010, 11:20 PM
Oh, please...

Explain that one.

Well, suggesting shooting illegal immigrants on sight certainly places you in the authoritarian bandwagon. Not to mention the cuckoo bandwagon.
As far as being extreme right, maybe you should ask a black surgeon.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.


This I agree with. However, people can be as ignorant as they want. I really doubt few who call themselves libertarian have read and understand the libertarian platform. You obviously don't understand it if you read it. I fit almost every category.

Oh, I understand it. I simply can't call myself a libertarian. I agree with some of their points, and disagree with others. But I could say the same with the Dems platform, or the GOP stated goals.
Ultimately, most people have distinct opinions. Some lean left, some lean right, some try to stay in the center. Depends on a multitude of factors.
That's why generalizations are incredibly useless when trying to classify people.

CosmicCowboy
11-05-2010, 09:17 AM
We have several articulate center/progressives, a few center/conservatives, A few people that just like to argue, and a couple like Boutons (who clearly wasn't breast fed) that are just batshit crazy/angry.

fraga
11-05-2010, 09:29 AM
I'm a Marxist Socialist....Maoist...

fyatuk
11-05-2010, 10:00 AM
I'm generally far right on national politics and far left on local politics, at least economically. Socially, I'm about as "stay the hell out of our business" as you can get.

baseline bum
11-05-2010, 10:02 AM
Well, suggesting shooting illegal immigrants on sight certainly places you in the authoritarian bandwagon. Not to mention the cuckoo bandwagon.
As far as being extreme right, maybe you should ask a black surgeon.


:lol

Wild Cobra
11-05-2010, 10:09 AM
Well, suggesting shooting illegal immigrants on sight certainly places you in the authoritarian bandwagon.
Bullshit. I'm not suggesting it be dictated as policy.

Not to mention the cuckoo bandwagon.

Your opinion.

As far as being extreme right, maybe you should ask a black surgeon.

I only pointed out a major flaw of quota systems.


Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Yes, you are.

clambake
11-05-2010, 10:10 AM
wc getting owned, again.

Wild Cobra
11-05-2010, 10:36 AM
wc getting owned, again.
Only in your dreams.

baseline bum
11-05-2010, 10:37 AM
Nono, remember he wanted to personally be the one shooting Mexicans at the border.

clambake
11-05-2010, 10:39 AM
Only in your dreams.

you can't even remember what you say from day to day.

:lol one thread you say you can make more money in the private sector, then you say you make twice from the union gig. :lol

Wild Cobra
11-05-2010, 10:48 AM
you can't even remember what you say from day to day.

:lol one thread you say you can make more money in the private sector, then you say you make twice from the union gig. :lol
Liar.

Show me.

clambake
11-05-2010, 10:49 AM
Liar.

Show me.

why don't you just fall back on the bipolar, like now?

Wild Cobra
11-05-2010, 10:52 AM
why don't you just fall back on the bipolar, like now?
I would simply like you to back you your lie. I will then retract calling you a liar.

clambake
11-05-2010, 10:54 AM
I would simply like you to back you your lie. I will then retract calling you a liar.

i'm not interested in your rehabilitation.

Wild Cobra
11-05-2010, 10:55 AM
i'm not interested in your rehabilitation.
You once again prove yourself a worthless piece of shit.

clambake
11-05-2010, 10:56 AM
i'm not interested in your rehabilitation.

neither was your wife.

Wild Cobra
11-05-2010, 11:02 AM
neither was your wife.
See, there you go again making statements you haven't a clue about.

Why are you so passionate about me? Can't you stalk someone else?

clambake
11-05-2010, 11:04 AM
Why are you so passionate about me? Can't you stalk someone else?

i know where you heard that. lol

ElNono
11-05-2010, 12:31 PM
Nono, remember he wanted to personally be the one shooting Mexicans at the border.

Oh, I remember. He probably used more posts trying to backpedal from it though. Same thing with the whole surgeon stuff. But he'll never tell you that he changed his mind about it. He'll just claim that he meant something else and that "you don't understand". :lol

RandomGuy
11-05-2010, 12:40 PM
You have to admit the lefty faggots in here never shut the fuck up and always have to have last word.

No, we don't.

















HA!

RandomGuy
11-05-2010, 12:43 PM
To be called a libertarian, I would say you should agree with at least 80% of that platform. I would say I am one of the few who fit that category.

And yet when I try to get you to quantify exactly what it is about that platform you believe, I am "playing games". (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4722802&postcount=43) :rolleyes

I don't think you really know *what* you actually stand for, and I mean that quite literally.

TeyshaBlue
11-05-2010, 01:03 PM
No, we don't.

















HA!

:lol