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Nbadan
09-29-2004, 06:55 PM
Insider Leaks to Reporters Spread as CIA Turns Wary on Iraq


NEW YORK Conditions in Iraq appear to be deteriorating so badly that CIA officials are now leaking to reporters left and right, signaling a new dynamic in press coverage of the war. Columnist Robert Novak noted this on Monday in a column titled, "Is CIA at War With Bush?"

The latest example: today's Washington Post, which includes a lengthy article by veteran war-at-home watchers Dana Priest and Thomas E. Ricks, based mainly on anonymous insider comments. They explain that many interviewed would only talk anonymously, "either because they don't have official authorization to speak or because they worry about ramifications of criticizing top administration officials."

Priest and Ricks write, "A growing number of career professionals within national security agencies believe that the situation in Iraq is much worse, and the path to success much more tenuous, than is being expressed in public by top Bush administration officials, according to former and current government officials and assessments over the past year by intelligence officials at the CIA and the departments of State and Defense.

"While President Bush, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and others have delivered optimistic public appraisals, officials who fight the Iraqi insurgency and study it at the CIA and the State Department and within the Army officer corps believe the rebellion is deeper and more widespread than is being publicly acknowledged, officials say."

"People at the CIA 'are mad at the policy in Iraq because it's a disaster, and they're digging the hole deeper and deeper and deeper,' said one former intelligence officer who maintains contact with CIA officials. 'There's no obvious way to fix it. The best we can hope for is a semi-failed state hobbling along with terrorists and a succession of weak governments.'

"'Things are definitely not improving,' said one U.S. government official who reads the intelligence analyses on Iraq.

"'It is getting worse,' agreed an Army staff officer who served in Iraq and stays in touch with comrades in Baghdad through e-mail. 'It just seems there is a lot of pessimism flowing out of theater now. There are things going on that are unbelievable to me. They have infiltrators conducting attacks in the Green Zone. That was not the case a year ago.'"

On Monday, columnist Novak criticized the CIA and Paul Pillar, a national intelligence officer. Novak said comments Pillar made about Iraq during a private dinner in California showed that he and others at the CIA are at war with the president. Pillar had not spoken for the record, but Novak published his remarks and name anyway., noting that he is "no covert operative."

Novak also charged that "the CIA bureaucracy wants a license to criticize the president....without being held accountable."

In their article on Wednesday, Priest and Ricks quote a CIA official saying, "I'm not surprised if people in the administration were put on the defensive. We weren't trying to make them look bad, we're just trying to give them information. Of course, we're telling them something they don't want to hear."

And an Army staff officer told the two Post reporters, "They keep telling us that Iraqi security forces are the exit strategy, but what I hear from the ground is that they aren't working," he said. "There's a feeling that Iraqi security forces are in cahoots with the insurgents and the general public to get the occupiers out."

Editor and Publisher (http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000649634)

Tommy Duncan
09-29-2004, 07:02 PM
Assuming, of course, that no one at the CIA could be thought of as having a political agenda. I don't know many reasonable individuals who believe that, and it's definitely not just because of Porter Goss.

In some respects the Agency is like the State Department when it comes to the political affiliations of its employees.

Yonivore
09-29-2004, 07:10 PM
Leakers should be tried for treason.

exstatic
09-29-2004, 08:52 PM
Leakers should be tried for treason.

I agree - Valerie Plame

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-29-2004, 10:59 PM
I'm sure there are no liberals in the CIA who would love to help out the cause by "leaking" something with a CIA tag on it that helps out their party candidate.

:rolleyes

exstatic
09-30-2004, 01:04 AM
Don't get all testy on me, AHF. Just bustin' Yoni's hypocritical chops for being angry at THIS leak...

As for the politicalization of the intelligence agencies, I agree, but on a higher level. Some dude dropped into third world hell has no political agenda. He's just a front line operative.

Nbadan
09-30-2004, 06:03 AM
I'm amazed at the way W's supporters can just wave off any criticism of the chimp-in-charge. Everyone here should read Seymour Hersh's new Book. Many of his 'confidential sources' are or were CIA, and what they have to say about the Bushiveks will make any conscious-minded American want to scream "War Crime!".

Tommy Duncan
09-30-2004, 10:14 AM
Perhaps it is because you spam this forum with such "criticism" incessantly?

Nah, couldn't be.

Nbadan
09-30-2004, 12:31 PM
Yet you've never been able to pin me down on any intentional falsifications or even half-truths. Instead of complaining about my posts why don't you make a substantial counter-argument sometime?

Tommy Duncan
09-30-2004, 12:33 PM
I've pointed out the error of your ways more times than I should have.

Either you are a brilliant parody of a left wing nutjob or you are as advertised.

Nbadan
09-30-2004, 12:39 PM
:rolleyes

I've spanked you so many times I don't even bother trying anymore.

Tommy Duncan
09-30-2004, 12:47 PM
Keep dreaming.

The fact that I don't respond to all of the 30 threads you flood this forum with daily does not constitute a "spanking." I frankly don't have the time nor desire to read a bunch of shit you found at democraticcoffeegrounds.com.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-30-2004, 02:45 PM
I'm sure you spank off a lot to that Theresa Heinz calendar the Demos sent you for you $6 donation, but I can't recall a time where you've looked anything other than an ignorant clown on this forum.