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Spurminator
11-10-2010, 12:17 AM
MLB declares the Gold Glove award historically meaningless.

Spurminator
11-10-2010, 12:18 AM
In a perfect world, anyway...

Spurminator
11-10-2010, 12:19 AM
Seriously, what is with defensive awards in major pro sports and the seeming inability to ever get them right?

Spurminator
11-10-2010, 12:19 AM
(sorry for multiple posts)

Jose Canseco
11-10-2010, 09:35 AM
Redunkulous...

Easily should have given it to Elvis or Alexei. What a joke.

monosylab1k
11-10-2010, 09:38 AM
This is almost as bad as the year they gave it to Palmeiro even though he played like 130-something games at DH.

BUMP
11-10-2010, 01:07 PM
It's amazing the lengths that ESPN will go to suck Jeter's cock. lol @ them saying that he's the Yankees #1 priority over Cliff Lee. That old fuck needs to be castrated already

DeadlyDynasty
11-10-2010, 01:22 PM
should've gone to Elvis...horrible

BUMP
11-10-2010, 01:22 PM
The problem is that Jeter is still a serviceable player and the Yanks don't have a young prospect waiting in the wings to challenge him for his spot. (lol Yankees farm system)

Atleast they have Jesus Montero at catcher otherwise they'd be overpaying for two old fucks

monosylab1k
11-10-2010, 01:58 PM
The problem is that Jeter is still a serviceable player and the Yanks don't have a young prospect waiting in the wings to challenge him for his spot. (lol Yankees farm system)

Who needs a farm system when you can just buy Andrus as soon as he hits free agency?

Jose Canseco
11-10-2010, 02:08 PM
The problem is that Jeter is still a serviceable player and the Yanks don't have a young prospect waiting in the wings to challenge him for his spot. (lol Yankees farm system)

Atleast they have Jesus Montero at catcher otherwise they'd be overpaying for two old fucks

I think more and more people are questioning whether Jeter is even serviceable anymore. With the bat, I guess that might be true. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he's even a .300 hitter again next season. He's always been a good hitter because he goes to right field (although that is getting to be a more and more overrated part of his game) and he doesn't try to hit homers in a line-up with so much protection. Even when Tex and A-Rod are struggling, teams know they're still a threat.

But "serviceable" as a fielder is very arguable. I'm not a baseball stats geek but I keep hearing and reading that almost every measure of advanced fielding statistical analysis places Jeter at or near the very bottom among shortstops in baseball. He doesn't commit errors but even playing back more, he has extremely limited range and simply doesn't get to balls that the vast majority of merely decent shortstops get to. A-Rod's not horrible but that left side of the infield is pretty bad especially for a playoff team.

Then again, the Giants just won the World Series with horrific infielders who have no range outside of Sanchez, who isn't all that great either. Shows how invaluable pitching can be. Both Huff and Renteria are butchers in the infield. Panda is fat wreck and Uribe isn't really much better if you ask me.

Damn now that I think about it, how the fuck did they win the World Series again??

Obstructed_View
11-10-2010, 03:03 PM
Thread title should be "Jeter awarded 5th Gold Glove." He clearly didn't 'win' it.

ducks
11-10-2010, 08:16 PM
6 errors best in al majors
fielding 98%


I hate yankees but he earned it

gaKNOW!blee
11-10-2010, 09:00 PM
6 errors best in al majors
fielding 98%


I hate yankees but he earned it

:lmao

thinking thats all that goes into playing defense.

Obstructed_View
11-10-2010, 09:37 PM
6 errors best in al majors
fielding 98%


I hate yankees but he earned it

So apparently for a guy to get a gold glove is to not be physically able to get within range of a ball as it goes by him, or to know when not to try for it?

Yet another idiotic gem from ducks. He should be a gold glove voter.

Spurminator
11-11-2010, 12:09 AM
His backup Ramiro Pena only had ONE error as a shortstop! Why didn't he win it?

ducks
11-11-2010, 12:28 AM
stephen drew had better numbers more range but the rockies short stop got the gold glove

that is more of a disgrace

the rockies shortstop bat was MUCH BETTER then drew but that should not matter
we are talking about d

Obstructed_View
11-11-2010, 02:00 AM
stephen drew had better numbers more range but the rockies short stop got the gold glove

that is more of a disgrace

the rockies shortstop bat was MUCH BETTER then drew but that should not matter
we are talking about d

No we aren't. You're counting a couple of stats and trying to make a case. That has nothing to do with defense.

ducks
11-11-2010, 09:43 AM
drew has more range then troy also and has less errors
and played much more games

Brodels
11-12-2010, 08:00 PM
I think everyone knows that the gold glove award is a joke much of the time and that it doesn't always have much to do with a player's fielding ability. But this really is just silly. Jeter could quite possibly be the worst fielding shortstop in the AL at this point. His range really is that bad, he only makes the most routine of plays, and with his jump and throw, he makes routine plays look like miracles. It's really beyond belief.

dbreiden83080
11-18-2010, 07:56 PM
So apparently for a guy to get a gold glove is to not be physically able to get within range of a ball as it goes by him, or to know when not to try for it?

Yet another idiotic gem from ducks. He should be a gold glove voter.

The defensive stats that these geeks make up in baseball are totally fucked and nobody agrees on them. You got guys who never picked up a glove in their life telling us what makes a great short-stop.. Do we all agree that Cano is a great 2nd baseman? Well Teixeira recently said this..


"I hear about this UZR, Ultimate Zone Rating. And I saw Robinson Cano has a negative Ultimate Zone Rating. That is absolutely crazy," Teixeira said. "Robinson Cano is by far .. . the best second baseman I've ever seen and he's a negative defender by that Ultimate Zone Rating. So I don't put any stock into those things."


Not saying Jeter was the right choice but baseball geeks with useless stats love to exxagerate his defensive failures so to speak..