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Bandit2981
09-29-2004, 04:36 PM
www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=268 (http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=268)

Republican group's ad shows Osama, Kerry. It appeals to fear, and twists Kerry's record on defense, intelligence, Iraq

Summary

An ad by the Republican group "Progress for America Voter Fund ," mostly funded by wealthy GOP donors, suggests Kerry can't defend against terrorists "who want to kill us." It shows images of Osama bin Laden and the attacks of September 11, 2001.

The ad claims Kerry has "a 30-year record of supporting cuts in defense and intelligence," misleading charges that we've de-bunked before. It also accuses Kerry of "endlessly changing positions on Iraq," a claim that is without factual basis.

Kerry responded with his own ad, quoting a New York Times editorial calling the Bush campaign's recent statements about Kerry and terrorism "despicable."

Analysis

The ad appeared over the weekend of Sept. 25 in Iowa and Wisconsin, without any formal announcement by its sponsor, the Progress for America Voter Fund.

Trust Kerry With Your Life?

The ad is more remarkable for its fearsome imagery, somber background music and the voice-of-doom manner of its announcer than for the words it presents. It suggests that voters can't trust Kerry to defend against terrorism and take their lives in their hands if they vote for him.

It begins by showing 9/11 plot leader Mohammed Atta, Osama bin Laden and other terrorists while the announcer slowly intones: "These people want to kill us."

It presents more images of the attack on Russian school children, the attack on a Spanish commuter train, and firemen in the smoking rubble of the World Trade Center after September 11, 2001.

Defense Spending

The announcer claims that Kerry "has a 30-year record of supporting cuts in defense and intelligence." But as we said in our first article on this subject back in February, "Since 1996, the John Kerry who once opposed the Apache helicopter and wanted to cut Tomahawk cruise-missile funds by 50% has evolved into a steady supporter of military budgets."

It's true that Kerry voted against the entire Pentagon appropriations bills in 1990 and 1995, and also voted against the Pentagon authorization bill (which provides authority to spend but not the actual money) in 1996. But in his nearly 20 years in the Senate Kerry has voted for Pentagon budgets far more often than he's opposed them, and hasn't voted against one for the past eight years.

(The ad's reference to a "30-year record" includes Kerry's unsuccessful 1972 campaign for the House, when he campaigned against US policy in the Vietnam war. Actually, he's been a senator only since January, 1985.)

Intelligence Spending

As for cutting intelligence spending, it's true that Kerry proposed cuts in 1994 and 1995. The 1994 cut was part of an aggressive deficit-reduction package, and would have cut intelligence spending by 3.7% for six years. It was defeated.

The 1995 cut was smaller and would have amounted to a reduction of roughly 1%. This time cuts had bipartisan support, after it was discovered that intelligence officials had secretly hoarded more than $1 billion in unspent funds. A Republican-sponsored cut of $1 billion eventually became law as part of a House-Senate package endorsed by the Republican leadership.

Endlessly Changing Positions?

The charge that Kerry is "endlessly changing positions on Iraq" is without factual support. In fact, Kerry has never wavered from his support for giving Bush authority to use force in Iraq, nor has he changed his position that Bush should not have gone to war without greater international support, and without making greater efforts at diplomacy backed by the threat of force.

Here's what Kerry said on the Senate floor before voting to give Bush the authority:

Kerry (Oct. 9, 2002) Let there be no doubt or confusion about where we stand on this. I will support a multilateral effort to disarm him (Saddam) by force, if we ever exhaust those other options, as the President has promised, but I will not support a unilateral U.S. war against Iraq unless that threat is imminent and the multilateral effort has not proven possible under any circumstances.

That's consistent with Kerry's later criticism of Bush for failing -- as Kerry sees it -- to secure enough help and support from other countries. And that's been Kerry's position ever since.

Kerry did vote against $87 billion in emergency funds for Iraq and Afghanistan in 2003, and was criticized for inconsistency at the time even by Democratic rivals Lieberman and Gephardt. But Kerry has never advocated a quick withdrawal from Iraq as some of his other Democratic rivals did.

When the San Francisco Chronicle combed through 200 of Kerry's speeches and statements on Iraq, it found instances of "clumsy phrases and tortuously long explanations" that made Kerry's position difficult to follow. But it also found that "taken as a whole, Kerry has offered the same message ever since talk of attacking Iraq became a national conversation more than two years ago."


Even the Bush campaign had to edit Kerry's quotes egregiously out of context to make Kerry look inconsistent in an ad released Sept. 27, which we critiqued that day.

Willie Horton?

The Kerry campaign blames the Osama ad on the "Bush attack machine."

"It's the Willie Horton ad of 2004," Kerry spokesman Phil Singer said Sept. 24, as quoted by The Washington Post. That was a reference to an independent Republican group's ad in 1988 blaming Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis, the Democratic candidate for President, for releasing a convicted murderer who later held a Maryland couple hostage for 12 hours, stabbing the man and raping the woman. Horton (whose real name is William) is black, and though the ad didn't mention his race it did show a mug shot. The ad appealed to white fears of being attacked by black males, and many Democrats saw the ad as a contributing cause to Dukakis's defeat at the hands of George Bush, the current President's father.

The PFA Voter Fund began operations in the offices of Tony Feather, who was political director of the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign. According to The Washington Post , it has raised $14 million of which more than two-thirds has come from Alex Spanos and Dawn Arnall, who are major Bush and GOP fundraisers from California.

The Kerry campaign rushed out a response ad Sept 26 accusing Bush of "un-American" tactics.

The Kerry ad is made up mostly of phrases quoted and paraphrased from a Sept. 25 New York Times editorial accusing Cheney and other Republicans of "despicable politics" for suggesting that electing Kerry would increase the odds of another terrorist attack, and faulting Bush himself for failing to disassociate himself from that line.

The ad is a fair summary of the much longer Times editorial, which concluded:

New York Times: We think that anyone who attempts to portray sincere critics as dangerous to the safety of the nation is wrong. It reflects badly on the president's character that in this instance, he's putting his own ambition ahead of the national good.

The Bush campaign didn't criticize the PFA Voter Fund ad. Spokesman Brian Jones, quoted by The Associated Press, said that the president has called for all such independent ads to cease, and then added:

Bush Campaign Spokesman Jones: Nevertheless, the Kerry campaign has continually played politics with the war on terror. . . Kerry's chronic vacillation regarding the war on terror raises serious questions about his character and his ability to lead during these extraordinary times.

Joe Chalupa
09-29-2004, 05:03 PM
Too bad so many have already been duped into believing the lies.

Although I also blame Kerry for not being for forceful in getting his true message out there.

Nbadan
09-30-2004, 06:19 AM
The charge that Kerry is "endlessly changing positions on Iraq" is without factual support. In fact, Kerry has never wavered from his support for giving Bush authority to use force in Iraq, nor has he changed his position that Bush should not have gone to war without greater international support, and without making greater efforts at diplomacy backed by the threat of force.

:hat2

All fact and no spin.

Tommy Duncan
09-30-2004, 10:12 AM
The Kerry campaign said back in August that Kerry would have invaded Iraq even given everything that has happened since then.

Kerry voted for the authorization knowing full well that the president intended to invade with or without UN approval. Since he is such an astute diplomatic observer he should have known that UN approval was unlikely.

Rather convenient of this "factcheck" to ignore that.

Perhaps I am missing something, but I fail to see any consistency between:


But on Aug. 9, 2004, when asked if he would still have gone to war knowing Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction, Kerry said: “Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it was the right authority for a president to have.”

and



September 29, 2004

-snip-

DIANE SAWYER: Was the war in Iraq worth it?

JOHN KERRY: We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know today.


Sources:
CBS so perhaps danny can tell me to ignore it because it is unreliable (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/29/politics/main646435.shtml)
Evil right wing blog (http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008007.php)

Dean's campaign started the "flip flop" attack on Kerry back in the primaries. It's rather obvious to anyone who doesn't see the world through partisan blinders that the man is contradictory like a motherfucker.

SpursWoman
09-30-2004, 11:18 AM
September 29, 2004

-snip-

DIANE SAWYER: Was the war in Iraq worth it?

JOHN KERRY: We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know today.

IMO, this is complete and utter bullshit answer. He had the exact same information that the President and his administration had at the time and he supported taking action.

Hind-sight is not an acceptable excuse to start pointing fingers. If blame is being dished out, he deserves just as much.

Tommy Duncan
09-30-2004, 11:24 AM
The ultimate problem is that Bush is running for the presidency as if it is a leadership position and Kerry is running for it as if it is an academic post.

bigzak25
09-30-2004, 11:31 AM
kerry is toast.....libs are desperate. nothing they sling will suprise me in the next 30+ days.....

Joe Chalupa
09-30-2004, 02:35 PM
Wah, wah, wah.. :cry

Yonivore
09-30-2004, 02:39 PM
How can you twist Kerry's record? Seriously...he twists it enough himself.