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Phenomanul
05-23-2005, 03:29 PM
Nestle Crunch Time Points, NBA PostSeason 2005
Player Pt RB Ats Stl Bk FGA FGM FTA FTM TO W/L* Nestle
1. Steve Nash (Suns) 31 2 7 1 0 10 9 10 10 2 24 62
2. Manu Ginobili (Spurs) 25 4 4 3 1 5 3 24 18 0 28 57
3. Tony Parker (Spurs) 23 2 4 1 0 12 7 14 8 0 28 47
4. Dwyane Wade (Heat) 21 8 3 0 0 10 4 17 12 3 28 46
5. Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) 25 9 4 2 0 20 7 12 10 0 20 45
5. Udonis Haslem (Heat) 8 12 1 0 0 5 3 4 2 0 28 45
7. Robert Horry (Spurs) 6 7 1 0 0 3 2 0 0 1 28 40
7. Shawn Marion (Suns) 16 6 1 1 1 9 4 9 7 2 24 40
7. Amare Stoudemire (Suns) 13 5 0 0 1 6 3 7 7 0 24 40
10. Tim Duncan (Spurs) 17 3 0 0 1 14 7 5 3 1 28 39
10. Quentin Richardson (Suns) 14 9 0 1 1 11 4 6 4 1 24 39
12. Eddie Jones (Heat) 9 5 0 1 0 5 3 4 1 1 28 37
12. Antonio Daniels (SuperSonics) 17 3 2 1 0 7 4 12 9 0 20 37
14. Chauncey Billups (Pistons) 17 2 6 0 0 7 2 12 12 0 16 36
15. Jerry Stackhouse (Mavericks) 18 4 0 0 0 11 4 10 9 1 20 33
15. Michael Finley (Mavericks) 9 5 1 1 0 3 2 6 5 1 20 33
15. Bruce Bowen (Spurs) 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 28 33

Nestle Crunch Time Rating
The Nestle Crunch Time Stat was designed by the NBA and Nestle to provide an innovative way to measure "Crunch Time" performances -- players who step up when the game is on the line! A formula has been created to measure the top Nestle Crunch Time players, and the formula kicks in when Crunch Time kicks in -- the last two minutes and all overtime periods.

Here's the formula:

(PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) - ((FGA - FGM) + (FTA - FTM) + TO) + 4 points if their team wins

Note: If the point differential of the game is greater than 15 points at the two-minute mark, only the losing team's players will be eligible to earn Crunch Time points.


It's not surprising to see Manu near the Top of the list, But IceColdBrewski needs to check out who is at No. 3....

One thing I noticed, is that Manu hasn't had very many steals this postseason... but in the crunch time category, he leads the bunch. Neither he, nor Parker have a crunch time turnover....

Phenomanul
05-23-2005, 03:30 PM
Also dangerous is Wade who is near the top of the list having played 4 fewer games....

sa_butta
05-23-2005, 03:31 PM
wow@Horry
not bad 4 in top ten.

boutons
05-23-2005, 03:35 PM
timvp, pls fix up the stats box with aligned columns

MiNuS
05-23-2005, 03:39 PM
Also dangerous is Wade who is near the top of the list having played 4 fewer games....

Sorry,but only way we measure Wade is against a REAL opponent.
Pistons are a REAL opponent and will show Wade's true colors.If he
is ALL he's hyped to be then he'll come through. I am betting he'll
be stopped.
ESPN has done real nice hyping the Heat.

Phenomanul
05-23-2005, 03:44 PM
timvp, pls fix up the stats box with aligned columns

Sorry... I didn't know how to do that from the get go or else I would have.....

Timvp might instead want to have a quick seminar thread for how to align stat columns....

You know the whole... "Teach a man how to fish for himself instead of simply feeding him fish"

Phenomanul
05-23-2005, 03:45 PM
BTW if this doesn't define Ginobili as a stud... I don't know what else would.

ahem... Sequ.

boutons
05-23-2005, 04:13 PM
the code thingy dipalays using a fixed-pitch font.

it's very easy but tedious to fix it.

You have to edit your text in notepad.exe or similar usiing a fixed-pitch font, and manually add spaces to right-justify the numbers within the columns.

When it's space-justified in your editor with a fixed font, paste into the code box, it will be justified in /code display.

timvp
05-23-2005, 04:21 PM
the code thingy dipalays using a fixed-pitch font.

it's very easy but tedious to fix it.

You have to edit your text in notepad.exe or similar usiing a fixed-pitch font, and manually add spaces to right-justify the numbers within the columns.

When it's space-justified in your editor with a fixed font, paste into the code box, it will be justified in /code display.

Actually, all you have to do is go in and put a tab between each columns and take out the spaces. It'll then stay aligned within the code function.

You can try it Hegamboa, or I'll do it.

tlongII
05-23-2005, 04:29 PM
What a weak formula! There's got to be a better way to quantify a player's performance in crunch time than that!

SPARKY
05-23-2005, 04:30 PM
3. Tony Parker (Spurs) 23 2 4 1 0 12 7 14 8 0 28 47


Imagine that.

Solid D
05-23-2005, 04:30 PM
1/3 of top 15 are Spurs.

The Spurs did a nice job of doubling the Suns' top Crunch-time player...in Crunch-time.

SPARKY
05-23-2005, 04:33 PM
The formula gives 4 points for each win so Parker is just riding Ginobili's coat tails [/icecoldbrewski]

BTW, pay up, Bitch.

ShoogarBear
05-23-2005, 04:38 PM
What a weak formula! There's got to be a better way to quantify a player's performance in crunch time than that!

No matter which playoff formula is used, the score for Darius Miles will be the same . . .

spurs_fan_in_exile
05-23-2005, 04:41 PM
This formula looks a lot like Larry Bird's MVP formula with that little twist of the extra four points for a win. Which might explain why Nash is at the top of the heap.

boutons
05-23-2005, 04:42 PM
Nestle Crunch Time Points, NBA PostSeason 2005
Player Pt RB Ats Stl Bk FGA FGM FTA FTM TO W/L* Nestle
1. Steve Nash (Suns) 31 2 7 1 0 10 9 10 10 2 24 62
2. Manu Ginobili (Spurs) 25 4 4 3 1 5 3 24 18 0 28 57
3. Tony Parker (Spurs) 23 2 4 1 0 12 7 14 8 0 28 47
4. Dwyane Wade (Heat) 21 8 3 0 0 10 4 17 12 3 28 46
5. Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) 25 9 4 2 0 20 7 12 10 0 20 45
5. Udonis Haslem (Heat) 8 12 1 0 0 5 3 4 2 0 28 45
7. Robert Horry (Spurs) 6 7 1 0 0 3 2 0 0 1 28 40
7. Shawn Marion (Suns) 16 6 1 1 1 9 4 9 7 2 24 40
7. Amare Stoudemire (Suns) 13 5 0 0 1 6 3 7 7 0 24 40
10. Tim Duncan (Spurs) 17 3 0 0 1 14 7 5 3 1 28 39
10. Quentin Richardson (Suns) 14 9 0 1 1 11 4 6 4 1 24 39
12. Eddie Jones (Heat) 9 5 0 1 0 5 3 4 1 1 28 37
12. Antonio Daniels (SuperSonics) 17 3 2 1 0 7 4 12 9 0 20 37
14. Chauncey Billups (Pistons) 17 2 6 0 0 7 2 12 12 0 16 36
15. Jerry Stackhouse (Mavericks) 18 4 0 0 0 11 4 10 9 1 20 33
15. Michael Finley (Mavericks) 9 5 1 1 0 3 2 6 5 1 20 33
15. Bruce Bowen (Spurs) 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 28 33

MiNuS
05-23-2005, 04:50 PM
TP was helped by that OT game against the Nuggets and that he has basically been very erratic and starts hitting his shots in garbage time. Example Sonics game 6.

nkdlunch
05-23-2005, 04:55 PM
What a weak formula! There's got to be a better way to quantify a player's performance in crunch time than that!

Yeah they should add a variable to help out the Blazers, the amount of seconds it takes for a player to roll a joint :lol

Rummpd
05-23-2005, 05:00 PM
Or quickly lose a 16 point lead to lose a WCF vs. the Lakers!

Or to never win a championship with arguebly some of the best talent around!

How do you measure a "losing" player or franchise - hint find a Rose Garden!

ShoogarBear
05-23-2005, 05:00 PM
TP was helped by that OT game against the Nuggets and that he has basically been very erratic and starts hitting his shots in garbage time. Example Sonics game 6.

Um, helloooooooooo . . .

1. These stats SPECIFICALLY ignore garbage time, unless you're behind.

2. I must have missed the part of Sonics game #6 that was garbage time. (You know, the game WON WITH 0.5 LEFT!!!)

I swear, for what he does, TP has the highest shit-to-praise ratio of anybody around (and I'm someone who argued that people saying he was overall better than JKidd were nuts). It's like people are afraid that admitting something good about Tony will get them excommunicated.

Sense
05-23-2005, 05:02 PM
Close games get crunch.

MiNuS
05-23-2005, 08:16 PM
Um, helloooooooooo . . .

1. These stats SPECIFICALLY ignore garbage time, unless you're behind.

2. I must have missed the part of Sonics game #6 that was garbage time. (You know, the game WON WITH 0.5 LEFT!!!)

I swear, for what he does, TP has the highest shit-to-praise ratio of anybody around (and I'm someone who argued that people saying he was overall better than JKidd were nuts). It's like people are afraid that admitting something good about Tony will get them excommunicated.


I meant to say game 5 and not 6.

Anyways...who cares!