Manu 2010-2011 All-Star?

[Old School 44]

Just wondering if anyone thinks Manu has a chance to be voted in by the coaches as an all-star this season. Barring injury, Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant will probably be the starting guards. So assuming they go with 2 or 3 more guards, who gets the nod, TP, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, Manu?

I think if he keeps close to his current numbers and the Spurs have one of the top records going into the break, Manu’s chance is as good as anyone. Who knows, maybe both TP and Manu are selected by the coaches.

[DesignatedT]

doubt it

[Obstructed_View]

Duncan will be lucky to be selected by the coaches.

[Old School 44]

Duncan will be lucky to be selected by the coaches.

You're probably right, but then again, Duncan might get a GOAT pass to the game. Also, the opposing coaches will probably vote him in to just add a few extra miles to those old wheels.

[TMTTRIO]

Manu will never get another All Star invite. The weird thing is looking back that year that he made it wasn't even his best season (excluding the playoffs). He's just way too inconsistant.

[jestersmash]

Well I certainly wouldn't hold my breath.

[rfbulletdude]

scola

[ducks]

maybe king of jacking 11 three atempts a game

[Spurminator]

Looking like Jefferson might be there in his place.

[DAF86]

If Pop keeps him in the starting line-up and Manu continues to be (like it seems to be now) the focal point of the offense then he has a pretty good chance, imo. Bryant and CP3 are locks, Deron might get in too, Phoenix is too mediocre now for Nash to get in and Roy seems like he will have a tough season ahead of him because of injuries.

[Spurminator]

maybe king of jacking 11 three atempts a game

:lol I'm sorry you haven't ever been able to enjoy watching Manu play. You're missing out.

[DAF86]

22 pts on 9 shot attempts, all-star worthy imo.

[ducks]

tonight last two games 22 shots from downtown

[DAF86]

And 54 pts.

[emanueldavidginobili]

hes has a chance..he is, a allstar calibar player

[Nathan89]

Just wondering if anyone thinks Manu has a chance to be voted in by the coaches as an all-star this season. Barring injury, Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant will probably be the starting guards. So assuming they go with 2 or 3 more guards, who gets the nod, TP, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, Manu?

I think if he keeps close to his current numbers and the Spurs have one of the top records going into the break, Manu’s chance is as good as anyone. Who knows, maybe both TP and Manu are selected by the coaches.

Why does you're font look more official than ours?:ihit

[mexpurs21]

IMO Jefferson has more possibilities

[ducks]

If Pop keeps him in the starting line-up and Manu continues to be (like it seems to be now) the focal point of the offense then he has a pretty good chance, imo. Bryant and CP3 are locks, Deron might get in too, Phoenix is too mediocre now for Nash to get in and Roy seems like he will have a tough season ahead of him because of injuries.

nash is a point guard manu is not

[DAF86]

IMO Jefferson has more possibilities

No way.

[duncan228]

Why does you're font look more official than ours?:ihit

:lol Explore the reply box, there's all kinds of fun stuff. :)

[Old School 44]

I don't have any numbers to support this, but in the big 3 era, considering all the wins and titles, the Spurs have to have one of the lowest percentage of all-star appearances. I know TDs been there every year, but TP only 3 and Manu 1.

[ducks]

manu got a gift wrapped all star birth

[Old School 44]

IMO Jefferson has more possibilities

I doubt if Jefferson will get in. Not that Jefferson isn't playing great, but the forward position IMO is a lot deeper - Durant, Melo, Dirk, Gasol, TD to name a few. With the game in LA, Griffin and Odom will probably be given even more consideration. Scola's having a great year, add in the Yao effect, and he might even get a spot.

[99-03-05-07]

i hate saying this but i think we'll be lucky to get someone to the all-star game

[Texas_Ranger]

I really don't care if some of our players will play in the all-star game. For me that game is boring. They should do what they did in the NHL, so the captains can pick their teammates.
And it would be stupid if the Spurs would be playing really good, and no one makes that roster.

[itzsoweezee]

Absolutely he has a shot. He's having the best offensive year of his career. Roy isn't going to the all-star game, so that's one less two guard to worry about.

I think a lot depends on the Spurs' record. If the Spurs have one of the best records in the West, and Manu's the best player on the team, he has a great chance of making the team.

[TDMVPDPOY]

only way jefferson gets in...if carmelo gets traded out to the east b4 ASG

[jestersmash]

I'm going to laugh when the largely inept voting public votes tracy mcgrady in again as an All Star starter, or when China's billion+ voting block votes yao ming in.

[ezau]

Why does you're font look more official than ours?:ihit

It's called Times New Roman

[angelbelow]

Manu will always be an allstar in my heart.

[kaji157]

I think coaches know thay have been a bit unfair with Manu throught his careers and he might get in if he can carry on this kind of play untill near the ASG.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm going to laugh when the largely inept voting public votes tracy mcgrady in again as an All Star starter, or when China's billion+ voting block votes yao ming in.

The NBA will probably fuck up and have Allen Iverson on the ballot in both conferences too.

[oski1000]

The All Star Game is not a great thing for a player, its just about marketing. Manu is a great athlete and he enjoys the real competition. It will be better for the Spurs that Manu can rest well and be ready for the playoffs.
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[ElNono]

It's gonna be Kobe and Roy for SG, even though I think Roy is highly overrated.

[AlleyOopNazi]

Unfortunately too much talent at guard, no chance. I don't see him[Duncan] starting anymore, most everyone understands he is a shadow of his past. Come all-star break, our record might warrant shoe-ins, but All-star is about show-boating and raw scoring and clearly our team is full of those type of players...

[Frankie23]

The thing with Manu is that every year, in March or April, people are wondering why he didn't make it to the ASG..But no one is asking for him at this stage..
And coaches are very similar as fans..They underestimate Manu to be in the ASG, but when they get raped by Manu they are always saying: "Well, you know Manu Ginobili, he is an all star player who had win it all bla bla.."

Anyway, the ASG is boring. I don't want to see a game with no defense, no competition and only dunks..

[lefty]

Damn Manu with a bunch od retarded turnovers yesterday

But with that nice basket towards the end of the game

[rascal]

If Pop keeps him in the starting line-up and Manu continues to be (like it seems to be now) the focal point of the offense then he has a pretty good chance, imo. Bryant and CP3 are locks, Deron might get in too, Phoenix is too mediocre now for Nash to get in and Roy seems like he will have a tough season ahead of him because of injuries.

Monta Ellis is going.

[rascal]

It's gonna be Kobe and Roy for SG, even though I think Roy is highly overrated.

Roy has a bad knee and may even need surgery. Good chance he does not post enough stats to get in.

[ALVAREZ6]

There's just too many players in the league that out up ridiculous stats, so I'd say his chances are slim, even though he's off to a great start this season. Even if he keeps it up the whole way, it's still tough.


To me, the ASG seems harder for players to make in the most recent of years compared to the mid to early decade. I'm not basing this off of any statistics, but after following the league rather closely this decade, every year there seems to be more break out young stars, the league seems to be filled with them.
Has anyone else noticed this???

[PDXSpursFan]

Brandon Roy is injured and not performing to all-star level. So that opens the door to Manu.

[kuato]

No and he doesn't care

[Jose Canseco]

Certainly has a shot.

Thing with the Spurs is that they probably don't want Manu to be an all star in that it probably means they've needed him to perform like this every game in order to win games. That means he's playing big minutes and he's carrying a pretty big part of the offensive load. I think the Spurs would feel much better about things if Manu is playing closer to or even under 30 MPG and isn't asked to do so much so that they can pace his body for the playoffs.

Manu has always had the talent to be a perennial all star. If he's an all star this year, the Spurs may be relying on him too much and not pacing him well enough.

[DAF86]

Monta Ellis is going.

If the Warriors remain good, thing I doubt will happen. And even if he does there's still 2 spots remaining. I think Manu has a much bigger chance than most bealive.

[Hooks]

I'd rather have Manu jacking up 3's than driving it in all the time, he risks getting hurt or injured every time he drives it in...plus that style of play would take quite a toll on Manu's body.

Eventually he'll start knocking those 3's down, his 3pt shooting will improve as the season goes on which is another plus.

[DAF86]

Eventually he'll start knocking those 3's down, his 3pt shooting will improve as the season goes on which is another plus.

He's shooting 38% from 3, that's pretty good.

[MmP]

he has to keep this up and maybe, just mayybe he has a slim chance.
I mean it wouldn't be the first time he's overlooked. In 07 and y 08 he deserved I recall Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_ after the AS break saying "I dare someone to tell me he's not an allstar"
Im done with wishing him in, for some reason when he trully deserves it no coach pick him.

I remember in 05 he had like 2 monster games before the AS to lock him in, even the media was saying a couple of weeks before the game that "he should be selected to denver"

[Spursmania]

maybe king of jacking 11 three atempts a game

This never gets old. Ducks-Your love for Manu is staggering.:lol

[Dex]

At this point, Manus chances of being selected are probably better than Tims. Unfortunately that doesn't bode well for either player.

[ALVAREZ6]

This never gets old. Ducks-Your love for Manu is staggering.:lol

It's pretty funny how a Spurs fan can talk trash on a player who was a big, irreplaceable part of 2 championships. Spurs wouldn't win a series without him...

[DAF86]

At this point, Manus chances of being selected are probably better than Tims. Unfortunately that doesn't bode well for either player.

If the ASG were to take place tomorrow he would make it IMO, Paul, Kobe, Ellis, Williams and Manu. Those are the 5 guards that would make it right now.

[ALVAREZ6]

If the ASG were to take place tomorrow he will make it IMO, Paul, Kobe, Ellis, Williams and Manu. Those are the 5 guards that would make it right now.

Stephen Curry also has great stats:

21.7 ppg, 6.8 assists, 1.8 steals, 38% from 3 like Manu, 51.6% total FG...pretty similar, only slightly better.

Nash also averages 18.7 ppgs and 9 assists

Tyreke Evans averages 19 points, 5.7 assists, 5 rebounds

Kevin Martin also in the question

Russell Westbrook averages 22.6 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 7.9 assists

+Brandon Roy if he gets around his injury problems, we all know what he's capable of, great player.


....on top of the guys you named, and I may have forgotten one or two, this is only including western conference guards....I really think some people might not realize how deep the NBA is right now in terms of young talent. I'm not saying all of these guys deserve an all-star spot ahead of Manu, but a lot of them have more impressive statistics.

Back in 05, Manu's main competition for the ASG was Ray Allen to the best of my memory, and other players of equal or lesser value in terms of statistics, and these guys didn't average anything close to what the guys listed above are averaging. That season Manu only averaged 16 points per game, which is where he's been for much of his career. I'm not saying Manu isn't capable of more, but this gives you an idea of the differences I've noticed in only 5 years.

The NBA is loaded with stat-sheet stuffers compared to the early decade. Just take a look above for yourself, inevitably there's going to be plenty of "all-star caliber" players left off

[mingus]

Brandon Roy isn't playing that well right now. and Manu would probably be playing better than him anyway:

his stats are crazy:

22ppg 3rpg 5apg 2spg on 47.6 % from 2 and 39% from 3 89% from FT. he's also probably hitting 3 threes per game, i haven't checked on that though.

moreover he's been clutch, as he hit a game winning shot and a shot to send a game into overtime that resulted in a win.

on top of that the Spurs are 6-1.

the only guards that should be considered ahead of him in the West as of right now are Kobe, CP3, and Deron. and if that remains that case, he'll get in for sure. will he keep it up? there's no doubt he can, but his minutes will come down eventually to where they usually are. right now he's gettting 34 mpg.

[ducks]

It's pretty funny how a Spurs fan can talk trash on a player who was a big, irreplaceable part of 2 championships. Spurs wouldn't win a series without him...

yep just like no titles after david robinson left the spurs and retired to huh:lol

and DAVID>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MANU

[ALVAREZ6]

Brandon Roy isn't playing that well right now. and Manu would probably be playing better than him anyway:

his stats are crazy:

22ppg 3rpg 5apg 2spg on 47.6 % from 2 and 39% from 3 89% from FT. he's also probably hitting 3 threes per game, i haven't checked on that though.

moreover he's been clutch, as he hit a game winning shot and a shot to send a game into overtime that resulted in a win.

on top of that the Spurs are 6-1.

the only guards that should be considered ahead of him in the West as of right now are Kobe, CP3, and Deron. and if that remains that case, he'll get in for sure. will he keep it up? there's no doubt he can, but his minutes will come down eventually to where they usually are. right now he's gettting 34 mpg.
Did you not just see what I posted?

Curry has similar stats, but better. More assists, better FG%.

Westbrook has better stats all-around, more rebounds and assists.

Nash averages 3 points less, also 4 more assists, which outweigh that disparity.

And what are you even saying with Roy? I acknowledge he isn't playing his best, he has nagging injury problems, but who knows how the season will play out. You think Manu will keep it up the whole season? I'm not really sure, I could see it go either way, likewise the same for Roy. LOL, we both agree Roy isn't playing well, but he's still averaging 19 points. Once he starts shooting better and getting into a flow, you'll see his numbers go up.

You're blind if you think Manu "will get in for sure" if he keeps it up. Blind of the other players that are putting up better numbers.

Trust me, I'm probably a bigger Manu fan that you and I would love for him to keep it up and maybe get selected to the ASG. But at the same time, I'm aware that there's A LOT of players that put up great numbers, compared to a few years back. I also won't give two shits if he doesn't get selected because the ASG isn't a measure of the best players in the league. It's just an ASG.

[ALVAREZ6]

yep just like no titles after david robinson left the spurs and retired to huh:lol

and DAVID>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MANU

LOL wtf does that first part even mean? If you aren't mentally retarded, which would be fine, you'd be the internet's all-time greatest troll. It'd be a serious accomplishment...over 7,8 years or however long you've been here of complete nonsense.

It'd also be extremely pathetic.

LOL, oh yeah thanks for letting me know David>Manu

Ducks, did you know that Lebron>Zaza Pechulia ???

Duncan>Nate Robinson

Jordan>Ray Allen

Kobe>Jordan Farmar

Dwight Howard>Samuel Dalembert

[Lukor]

Manu is playing great but honestly i don't see him keeping up this level of play with the minutes he's logging right now. History suggests that he will slow down a bit over the course of the season.

[mingus]

Did you not just see what I posted?

Curry has similar stats, but better. More assists, better FG%.

Westbrook has better stats all-around, more rebounds and assists.

Nash averages 3 points less, also 4 more assists, which outweigh that disparity.

And what are you even saying with Roy? I acknowledge he isn't playing his best, he has nagging injury problems, but who knows how the season will play out. You think Manu will keep it up the whole season? I'm not really sure, I could see it go either way, likewise the same for Roy. LOL, we both agree Roy isn't playing well, but he's still averaging 19 points. Once he starts shooting better and getting into a flow, you'll see his numbers go up.

You're blind if you think Manu "will get in for sure" if he keeps it up. Blind of the other players that are putting up better numbers.

Trust me, I'm probably a bigger Manu fan that you and I would love for him to keep it up and maybe get selected to the ASG. But at the same time, I'm aware that there's A LOT of players that put up great numbers, compared to a few years back. I also won't give two shits if he doesn't get selected because the ASG isn't a measure of the best players in the league. It's just an ASG.

Westbrook shouldn't. OKC has no business losing to the Jazz by 20, the Clippers, and getting blown out at home by Boston. if they keep going that route and the Spurs keep it up, i don't see houw he could get in over Manu.

after looking up Monte Ellis' and Curry's stats, and the way the team is doing i guess they're actually really good. i hadn't heard or seen the team since last year, but they've improved. i thnk it's more than stats though. Manu's won 2 games for SA. like i said, i haven't seen GS this year, so maybe Monte and Curry have been just as clutch. but if they haven't, i think Manu's 2 clutch shots outweigh the statistical differences, which really aren't that big anyway.

[ALVAREZ6]

:lol nvm

[Seventyniner]

Duncan's been voted in by the fans for a long time; I don't see that changing this year. It's up to us to stuff the ballot boxes! Vote early and vote often!

[roycrikside]

tonight last two games 22 shots from downtown

Hey math major, if he's knocking them down at 38%, he can shoot 30 a game for all I care.

[lefty20]

Duncan's been voted in by the fans for a long time; I don't see that changing this year. It's up to us to stuff the ballot boxes! Vote early and vote often!

After looking at the numbers Nowitzki and Gasol are putting up I think it might be difficult for Duncan to get another start in the ASG.

[nkdlunch]

so far yes. But it's only been 8 games into the season.

[99-03-05-07]

After looking at the numbers Nowitzki and Gasol are putting up I think it might be difficult for Duncan to get another start in the ASG.

na nowitzki always put up numbers, duncan is just the more popular player which is why he is the one that gets voted in by the fans