James Anderson out at least 8 weeks

[Sausage]

Per the Spurs twitter:


Injury report: James Anderson has a stress fracture in his right fifth metatarsal. Timeframe is 8 weeks.

www.twitter.com/Spurs

[ElNono]

Per the Spurs twitter: Injury report: James Anderson has a stress fracture in his right fifth metatarsal. Timeframe is 8 weeks.

Twitter.com/Spurs



1 - Stay healthy.

So far, so good. The fact that BOTH Manu and Tony stayed home this summer and didn't play international ball helps a LOT.


:pctoss

[ElNono]

I guess we'll see a lot more of the choo choo train now... On the other hand, Bonner might be readying a comeback...

[urunobili]

shit not good, not good, he has been the sanity of the rotation... this means a LOT more Gary Neal?

[Doe]

God damn it. I don't even remember him getting hurt last night.

[justinandimcool]

Where the fuck did this come from?!

[Libri]

:pctoss

[coyotes_geek]

Well, that sucks.

[spectator]

i don't remember his prev. injury, but is this related to what he had all summer long? i hope it's not

[Kuestmaster]

shit, that sucks.
who will play now the remaining minutes at 3? manu?

[Obstructed_View]

Yao.

[Spurs Brazil]

fuck!!!!!!!!!!!

We must sign a SF

[NASpurs]

Maybe Neal will get some more minutes and Gee will get some "evaluation" time.

Anyway wtf, this came out of left field and JA was playing so well.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, there's one reason Gee is still on the team.

[GSH]

http://thenonist.com/images/uploads/mncdoathsthumb.jpg

[justinandimcool]

Well, it's the little toe. So I doubt anything that will affect his play when he comes back. But 8 weeks seriously? Brooks nearly broke his whole damn foot and is out for 4. :depressed

[slick'81]

sucks kid was playing well finding his niche oh well its 3-piece neal time

[benefactor]

Just great. Hopefully he doesn't take back in development because of this. At least we aren't a week away from the playoffs.

[rjv]

looks like we'll be seeing alonzo gee soon.

[lefty]

Wear a Spurs jersey and you get an injury

Dammit

[CFH]

Sucks

[dunkman]

Too bad, he was playing well. Hopefully he will be back soon.

[justinandimcool]

My bad, it's not the toe but the bone running down connecting the little toe across the foot. God dammit, get new shoes James :(

[NASpurs]

the legend of Alonzo Gee continues! Dude must have made a deal with the devil and all the stars are aligning for him.

[spurs10]

8 weeks is a big hunk of the season...back in 2011? Wow, what a bad break (no pun intended).

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

he was fine and playing last night...i wonder when and how this was found out...

[siraulo23]

fuckkkk

[rjv]

he will still get more than half a season to work with and so that is plenty of time to get in shape and in a rhythm. and fortunately, the spurs schedule is easier in the first half as opposed to the second.

[lefty]

Did this happen before or after temple was waived?
Before

It's God's plan

[bigdog]

Dammmnnn. Not good. He was really starting to fit in nicely. Curious to see how much more time Neal gets and if we'll start seeing Gee.

[Solid D]

I wonder if someone stepped or landed on his foot?

Edit Nevermind. Stress fracture.

[Bruno]

It truly sucks.
Foot injuries are tricky and the risk of a re-injury is high. Let's hope that Anderson will be back at 100% and be ready for the playoffs. He has had a great start of the season.

Manu should now be the backup SF spot with Neal getting more minutes. Pop could also give some minutes to Gee or to a new SF.

[Libri]

Here's a diagram and where a fracture can occur.

http://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/sports_health/fifth_metatarsal_fracture/

http://media.summitmedicalgroup.com/media/db/relayhealth-images/meta5tar.jpg

[MoSpur]

What? I never would've thought. Gee might/should get some playing time

[timvp]

Wow, that sucks. He was fitting in perfectly and was just now beginning to get into game shape. Hopefully he can find his rhythm soon after he's ready to play once again.

Sounds like return at some point in January.

Disappointing :td

[Bruno]

That injury happens a lot when you are bare-footed. Unless someone else stepped or landed on his foot, I wonder if James did this off the court.

They said it's a stress fracture, it isn't related to a hit.

[jimo2305]

he wont be back till mid jan. :'(

[ALVAREZ6]

Jesus Christ, WTF!!!


Need these guys getting as much experience as possible before this year's playoff run

[justinandimcool]

We're only 12 deep now. I don't really trust Gee lulz. Who else is on the market?

[GSH]

Joshua Baumfeld, MD, David Diduch, MD, UVA Sports Medicine


Stress fractures of the fifth metatarsal are also common within the athletic community (Figure 2). There are often low-grade symptoms with activity that can last weeks prior to the diagnosis of fracture, which usually presents as an acute increase in pain. Symptoms may include pain over the outer aspect of the foot particularly with activity and weight bearing. There may be swelling or bruising present. These symptoms may worsen over time before a fracture is evident on x-ray. These low-grade symptoms should not be ignored. There is usually evidence on plain x-rays of stress related changes in the bone. However, in suspected cases of a fifth metatarsal stress fracture without x-ray changes or with questionable changes, MRI has become the most sensitive tool for early diagnosis.

Due to the poor blood supply in this region, it is often difficult to get these fractures to heal. While they can be treated without surgery, there is a significant risk of the bone not healing and of losing time prior to return to play. Non-operative treatment consists of prolonged cast or boot immobilization with non-weight bearing. Surgical intervention can often increase the union rate and decrease the time to union as well as allow earlier rehabilitation.

Surgery, which is the same for stress fractures and acute Jones fractures, consist of a small incision along the outer aspect of foot that allows insertion of a screw down the canal of the fifth metatarsal. Following surgery the foot is protected with a splint while the wound heals. Progressive weight bearing can often begin at 2 weeks after surgery and progress as tolerated. In some studies, the average time to heal was between six and eight weeks. Patients often return to play within three months of surgery. Screw removal may be necessary after healing if the patient develops symptoms related to the head of the screw.

[Solid D]

They said it's a stress fracture, it isn't related to a hit.

Yeah, I changed my post after I re-read the report.

[GSH]

he wont be back till mid jan. :'(

And he won't be in game shape for some time after that.

Hard to believe that losing one rookie could suck so much air out of things.

[Spurs Brazil]

We're only 12 deep now. I don't really trust Gee lulz. Who else is on the market?

J.Hayes?

[ChumpDumper]

We're only 12 deep now. I don't really trust Gee lulz. Who else is on the market?They should just give Alan Anderson some money under the table and have him wear James' uniform.

[mattyc]

Well, this is shit news.

[beachwood]

I am truly bummed out at this news. He was looking good out there and making strong contributions. Crapola.

[lefty]

Can we trade Matt Bonner for Gary Vitti ?

[timvp]

Two possible positives for the glass half full crowd:

1) It's tough for rookies out of college to play 82 games and then still have any legs to contribute in the playoffs. Anderson getting two months of rest now may allow him to avoid hitting the rookie well.

2) He gets two months to be with his newborn daughter without as much outside stress.



For the glass half empty crowd, this is a bad type of injury for a basketball. Stress fractures are tricky and can sometimes take a long, long time to heal properly. The worst area for a stress fracture is in your foot. Even when Anderson returns, there's no guarantee he'll be able to finish off the season.



P.S.

No, this isn't related to his previous injury. That was a hamstring strain.

[TIMMYD!]

Ah, fuck. I was pretty excited at watching him play some more.

[Bruno]

There are some intriguing low salary SF like Sam Young and Donte green who are in the doghouse with their team.
Spurs should make some phone calls to see if they can get one on the cheap.

[Trill Clinton]

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[MoSpur]

Bring Bowen Back!!!

[Obstructed_View]

There are some intriguing low salary SF like Sam Young and Donte green who are in the doghouse with their team.
Spurs should make some phone calls to see if they can get one on the cheap.

Gee for Young. Might help both Young and Blair.

As for Ja, I'm perfectly happy if they just make sure the thing's fully healed before bringing him back.

[MaNu4Tres]

:vomit:

[SenorSpur]

Damn! This sucks.

I wonder if Anderson's injury will open up the door to unleash the Gee?

[Gagnrath]

Honestly why waive Temple if Anderson is out 8 weeks? The timing of the one does not compute with the other, if it was a whole day sure, but the timing involved here just looks terrible, why would you waive people before you have the next days shoot around?

[VBM]

Well, at least he won't hit the rookie wall

[SenorSpur]

There are some intriguing low salary SF like Sam Young and Donte green who are in the doghouse with their team.
Spurs should make some phone calls to see if they can get one on the cheap.

I absolutely love Sam Young. I thought he might have been the Spurs primary target in the 2nd round of last year's draft - that is, until it was obvious that "the beast" was available.

With the Grizzlies having drafted Xavier Henry this past draft, and Rudy Gay just signing a long-term deal, there seems to be little room for Young. I wouldn't have an issue with this at all. And of course, the beast would love this acquisition.

[silverblackfan]

the legend of Alonzo Gee continues! Dude must have made a deal with the devil and all the stars are aligning for him.

:lol :rollin

[Libri]

There are some intriguing low salary SF like Sam Young and Donte green who are in the doghouse with their team.
Spurs should make some phone calls to see if they can get one on the cheap.

I don't know which one would be easier to get but right now Donte Green doesn't exist for the Kings.

[mexicanjunior]

Anderson was playing really well, this will be a big blow to our depth. I haven't been impressed with anything I've seen from Gee, Spurs need to make a move for a decent Jefferson backup if they want to keep up their current pace...this really sucks.

[Blackjack]

I'd love if the Spurs could get Greene or Young (in that order) but this injury is a straight kick to the junction. :nutkick:

[TimmehC]

There are some intriguing low salary SF like Sam Young and Donte green who are in the doghouse with their team.
Spurs should make some phone calls to see if they can get one on the cheap.

Would love to have either one of those guys backing up RJ. Then when JA returns, he can play SG.

[Solid D]

Unless the Spurs can bring someone else in, I would think Manu goes to the bench and George moves to the starting lineup. Gino now becomes the backup 3 for many scenarios.

[timtonymanu]

WTH? Where did this come from?

Spurs should try to go after Danny Green.

[Drewlius]

Unless the Spurs can bring someone else in, I would think Manu goes to the bench and George moves to the starting lineup. Gino now becomes the backup 3 for many scenarios.

Please no. The last thing this team needs right now is for Pop to start messing with the lineups. The time sharing/playing time is so solid right now, and things are working great. Plug in Gee for Anderson's minutes, hope for the best, and ride it out.

[z0sa]

Goddamnit.

[duncan228]

Rookie Anderson will miss two months (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/11/11/rookie-anderson-will-miss-two-months/)
by Jeff McDonald

...“It’s weird how it happened,” point guard Tony Parker said. “He woke up this morning and told us the news, and it was like, ‘Oh wow.’ It’s bad, because he was playing well.”

...Anderson’s absence is likely to open up minutes for fellow rookie Gary Neal, who is undersized for a small forward, and for Alonzo Gee, who has spent most of the season anchored to the bench.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/11/11/rookie-anderson-will-miss-two-months/

[Ginobilly]

WTF???:depressed He didn't look injured at all yesterday!

[Man In Black]

No, this isn't related to his previous injury. That was a hamstring strain.

From a trainer perspective, this could be slightly related. If his body was compensating for the hamstring, there are a myriad of things that could contribute to the stress fracture. This fracture may be the negative definition of Jacob Riis. While a stress fracture could be caused by a mis-step(I once stress-fractured the 4th Metatarsal on my right foot just stepping on a rock, my brother broke the same bone on his left stepping in a hole. The 4th is the most common, followed by the 5th). For James, it's possible that his running gait, his gather and jump motions might have been altered due to compensation. So, in that vein, it's quite possible that his stress might not have been the result of 1 misstep, it could be the result of all the missteps before.

I didn't see, which foot is it? And also, which leg had the hamstring issue?

[tomtom]

Damn tough luck I doubt Young will be given up that easily, he showed flashes of pretty good game last year IIRC

[JR3]

better now than later. He seemed to be doing well in our system.

[Chomag]

CIA Pop giving his way of his usual DNP's to Rookies.


Just kidding I had no idea actualy. This came out of nowhere. I thought I saw him walking off from the bench at the end of last nights game and he seemed fine. I gess not..

And Gary Neal allthough a pretty good player is not s small forward.

[lefty]

We need Gary Vitti





NOW

[Solid D]

Edit: Inserting a pin is a good idea since he makes his living playing basketball.

[DAF86]

Sucks big time, I loved having two backup wings that were young and could make the three.

[Dex]

Well ain't that a hum dinger...

[toki9]

Edit: Inserting a pin is a good idea since he makes his living playing basketball.

Surgery next week to insert a pin, according to Jeff McD:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/11/11/rookie-anderson-will-miss-two-months/

[galvatron3000]

now 11 minutes makes sense

[ChumpDumper]

You know I was kidding earlier, but Alan Anderson might actually deserve a look after a few seasons overseas. Worked for Neal, and he does have some similarities to James. Wouldn't require a trade at any rate.

[pookenstein]

Fuck. That sucks. He was playing well so far.
What would it take to get a guy like Young? Can we just swallow his 890k salary (2010 season)?

[timvp]

Personally, I'd like the Spurs to give Neal and Gee the first shot at replacing JA's minutes. Sure, it will make the Spurs even smaller on the perimeter but they should be able to survive. Ginobili has defended a lot of small forwards over the years. And honestly, at this stage of Ginobili's career, he's a better post defender than he is at chasing quick guards out on the perimeter. Ginobili ain't gonna let no one bully him.

The only way I'd want to trade for a small forward would be if the Spurs fear JA may be out for the season. Same goes for signing a free agent. Knowing the Spurs, I'm sure their thinking about Jarvis Hayes and, even worse, Michael Finley to get a SF with size who can shoot.

[wildbill2u]

Well, there's one reason Gee is still on the team.

May also be the reason they dumped Temple--looking for another SF

[DespЏrado]

I'm not understanding how this could be that serious. I've broken them on both of my feet, and it didn't make a bit of difference with shoes. Both of my pinkie toes are sort of floppy now, but you don't actually need your little toes to do anything...This is weird.

[timtonymanu]

Well Hill better get his act together now, we need someone other than Neal to make up for JA's shooting.

[Blackjack]

@malikinitaly @Project_Kap lol I'm doing well bro. About to give my protege Alonzo Gee a speech! lol

THC to the rescue! :smokin

[Chomag]

Michael Finley

Sorry but that made me forget everything else in your post.


God no...

[galvatron3000]

Sorry but that made me forget everything else in your post.


God no...

you too:lmao

[Stephen Kersey]

Important to note the timetable is eight weeks AFTER the surgery. The swelling has to subside before surgery. A source told me the All-Star Break is a likelier return goal than eight weeks.

[benefactor]

MannyisGod just got serious wood at the thought of Finley returning.

[Ditty]

KAM7nkidVCw

[toki9]

Important to note the timetable is eight weeks AFTER the surgery. The swelling has to subside before surgery. A source told me the All-Star Break is a likelier return goal than eight weeks.

So does anyone know of NBA case histories for injuries like this? How long does it usually take to heal properly?

[MannyIsGod]

MannyisGod just got serious wood at the thought of Finley returning.

Um, what? You must have missed my posts over the past 2 years.

[Blackjack]

Just right to the junction . . . :nutkick:

[diego]

clearly, this is James Anderson's fault for being a selfish bastard with no regard for his employer. We're paying you hundreds of thousands here James, you have no right to injury.

[Man In Black]

It's because that portion of the foot has such poor blood supply that using a timeline like 8 weeks is best. He could be a fast healer and be doing therapy in 6 weeks. Since he's getting the pin put in, that's to stabilize and keep the bone in a place the physician finds structurally needed and comfortable for the athlete. If this was his hand, he could pull a Stephon Marbury and play with a pin in hand, but since it's his foot, no can do.
Let's say the range is from 6-12 weeks. The most important thing is that he be healthy when the Spurs need him most. That and that the other guys continue to perform well even though the depth Anderson provided isn't there AND that they don't suffer because of it.

[crc21209]

Even though he is a rookie that was only averaging about 15mpg or so I think this is a huge blow to the team. Anderson and Neal were the only outside threats on this team other than Manu and RJ now....very bad news. Fuck..:td

[rjv]

Important to note the timetable is eight weeks AFTER the surgery. The swelling has to subside before surgery. A source told me the All-Star Break is a likelier return goal than eight weeks.

i imagine that the swelling is expected to be where it needs to be as they have already scheduled the surgery for next week.

but yes, technically, it will be 8 weeks from after surgery that he would be looking at targeting.

[superbigtime]

that SUCKS. am really high on James.

[Bruno]

So does anyone know of NBA case histories for injuries like this? How long does it usually take to heal properly?

Beaubois has had the same injury on August 8th and he is still out.
Webster missed a full year with that injury.

[LeCrab]

if only we had malik :depressed :depressed :depressed

[Brazil]

well it sucks badly...

I guess we to need to reopen the back SF discussion

[Bruno]

if only we had malik :depressed :depressed :depressed

Malik is injured.

[toki9]

It's because that portion of the foot has such poor blood supply that using a timeline like 8 weeks is best. He could be a fast healer and be doing therapy in 6 weeks. Since he's getting the pin put in, that's to stabilize and keep the bone in a place the physician finds structurally needed and comfortable for the athlete. If this was his hand, he could pull a Stephon Marbury and play with a pin in hand, but since it's his foot, no can do.
Let's say the range is from 6-12 weeks. The most important thing is that he be healthy when the Spurs need him most. That and that the other guys continue to perform well even though the depth Anderson provided isn't there AND that they don't suffer because of it.

Thanks for the info...that's really depressing...

[toki9]

Beaubois has had the same injury on August 8th and he is still out.
Webster missed a full year with that injury.

Geez. I'm sorry I asked. :bang

[benefactor]

Um, what? You must have missed my posts over the past 2 years.
I heard you pimping him in person on the Kori Ellis Show last season. It's good to hear if you have changed your opinion since then(though playing him more then was just as bad of an idea).

[diego]

This sucks but in a sense I'm glad the FO is being forced to try Gee or find a better alternative. It sounds like he'll be out a long time but if he minds his weight and studies the system, he should come back in time for the PO.

[Solid D]

Personally, I'd like the Spurs to give Neal and Gee the first shot at replacing JA's minutes. Sure, it will make the Spurs even smaller on the perimeter but they should be able to survive. Ginobili has defended a lot of small forwards over the years. And honestly, at this stage of Ginobili's career, he's a better post defender than he is at chasing quick guards out on the perimeter. Ginobili ain't gonna let no one bully him.

That's why I believe Pop will consider bringing Manu off the bench, now. Pop will still have the Big 4 in there in crunch time, but I think Anderson's injury is a starting lineup changer. Neal is 6'4" (yes, he's a good 1 1/2 to 2 inches taller than Hill) but he's a small-ball-only 3. Gee is a big question mark.

Chip will just need to work with George and DeJuan on their shooting that much more. Which begs the question. Is there any correlation between Hill and Blair making such major strides in the weight room this summer and their poor FG% (.375 and .306 respectively)?

[timvp]

Beaubois has had the same injury on August 8th and he is still out.
Webster missed a full year with that injury.

Yeah, I was just looking at these two cases. Beaubois had the same injury and underwent surgery on Aug. 13th and the Mavs think he could be out another month. That'd be four months.

Webster had the same surgery and re-injured his foot five minutes after returning to the court. He missed the rest of the season.

Patty Mills had the same injury before his rookie season and missed five months.

Unfortunately, I highly doubt Anderson will be back eight weeks after surgery. Looking at other cases, I'd say even the All-Star break is pushing it a bit.

:depressed

[Spursmania]

Never a dull moment-dammit!:bang

[rjv]

Yeah, I was just looking at these two cases. Beaubois had the same injury and underwent surgery on Aug. 13th and the Mavs think he could be out another month. That'd be four months.

Webster had the same surgery and re-injured his foot five minutes after returning to the court. He missed the rest of the season.

Patty Mills had the same injury before his rookie season and missed five months.

Unfortunately, I highly doubt Anderson will be back eight weeks after surgery. Looking at other cases, I'd say even the All-Star break is pushing it a bit.

:depressed

yeah, could be march before we see him and all star break is probably a best case scenario. not good at all. i guess we will have more certainty after the surgery.

also, for pop...8 weeks= at least that plus at least a few more

[I Heart Ginobili]

http://walsho.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ffffuuuu-300x216.jpg

[lmbebo]

If its a stress fracture, it should be 2-3 months. A little confused with the need for pinning.

Not related to prior injury directly. Just constant pounding (overuse injury).

[SenorSpur]

Personally, I'd like the Spurs to give Neal and Gee the first shot at replacing JA's minutes. Sure, it will make the Spurs even smaller on the perimeter but they should be able to survive. Ginobili has defended a lot of small forwards over the years. And honestly, at this stage of Ginobili's career, he's a better post defender than he is at chasing quick guards out on the perimeter. Ginobili ain't gonna let no one bully him.

The only way I'd want to trade for a small forward would be if the Spurs fear JA may be out for the season. Same goes for signing a free agent. Knowing the Spurs, I'm sure their thinking about Jarvis Hayes and, even worse, Michael Finley to get a SF with size who can shoot.

Don't even think that way or say it in jest. :nope

[ohmwrecker]

This sucks. I currently have a stress fracture in my right foot. I developed it from compensating for breaking my left foot about a month ago. The stress fracture hurts more.

[rjv]

If its a stress fracture, it should be 2-3 months. A little confused with the need for pinning.

Not related to prior injury directly. Just constant pounding (overuse injury).

what is weird is that he really has not seen all that much action. he sat out summer league and also some of training camp...

just weird.

[Obstructed_View]

if only we had malik :depressed :depressed :depressed

Pop's clearing out a spot on the bench for him...

[GSH]

We obviously have the most problems on the defensive end. Give Stephane Lasme another look.

Quinn isn't going anywhere as backup PG. Patrick Beverley is looking for an NBA job.

[Bruno]

Yeah, I was just looking at these two cases. Beaubois had the same injury and underwent surgery on Aug. 13th and the Mavs think he could be out another month. That'd be four months.

Webster had the same surgery and re-injured his foot five minutes after returning to the court. He missed the rest of the season.

Patty Mills had the same injury before his rookie season and missed five months.

Unfortunately, I highly doubt Anderson will be back eight weeks after surgery. Looking at other cases, I'd say even the All-Star break is pushing it a bit.

:depressed

Beaubois should have been back for the start of the regular season but he had a setback.
There is also Manu's injury even if it wasn't in the foot.

What looks scary with these injuries is that a lot of times there are setbacks or re-injuries.

[superbigtime]

These injuries are dicey and definitely he will be favoring the other foot just reflexively. 8 weeks is super optimistic, even if he is young and a presumed fast healer. If they are pinning it, it must have been a complete or near complete fracture and that's going to take a while to heal. Just bizarre, because surely he would have been symptomatic from the stress reaction that occurs before the bone gives out and breaks. I'm hoping for early February or just before all star game. If he returns after ASG, he will have a lot of difficulty working back into the rotation. In the meantime, I hope he carpets his entire house, buys expensive shoes, and doesn't dance.

[Man In Black]

It really depends on blood flow movement in the injured area. Knees, Shoulders, Wrists, and Foot Bones heal the slowest because they articulate. Things needs to bend so from a physiological perspective, a whole mass of blood vessels needed to carry the blood for quick healing, won't be there because that would prevent movement.
I've suggested alternative options for Tim Duncan with regard to his knee-http://www.bionicare.com/bionicare-knee-system/

For James, I'd say go with oxygenated blood and maybe some Electronic Acupuncture to help his blood pool better AND allow for toxins that help swelling to move quicker through the vessels.

[Bruno]

If Spurs sign a FA, Jarvis Hayes is maybe the best option. Spurs could also bring back Udoka. One of the problem with these vets is that they weren't at training camps and haven't played a game for 7 months: in what shape are they?

[timvp]

Other comparables:

Marcus Williams the point guard missed 11 weeks after the surgery.

Andray Blatche missed about ten weeks this summer after the surgery ... but he's still not at 100%.

So yeah, tough injury. Given the severity and Pop always being overprotective, the All-Star break is probably a good guess.

[Brazil]

Beaubois should have been back for the start of the regular season but he had a setback.
There is also Manu's injury even if it wasn't in the foot.

What looks scary with these injuries is that a lot of times there are setbacks or re-injuries.
:depressed

[Bruno]

Pop said 6 weeks after the surgery that will happen next Tuesday:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/101111_pop.html

[angelbelow]

omg... what the fuck

[duncan228]

Just completely spitballing, but I think #spurs waived Temple in order to sign Anderson replacement. Only way timing makes sense.

[benefactor]

I think putting the feelers out for a trade needs to at least be an option on the table. There is a good chance that he won't be able to contribute at the same level even if he does make it back after the ASB.

[Cry Havoc]

Not.

Cool.

This team was just starting to gel. UGH.

[timvp]

Pop said 6 weeks after the surgery that will happen next Tuesday:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/101111_pop.html

With Pop, it's probably more like 8 + 6.

[rjv]

pop in true form.

[Man In Black]

6 just to be ready to start workouts sounds right. Maybe he's a fast healer?

[DesignatedT]

Fuck

[Chachachango]

FUUUUUUUUUCK! I hope he doesn't miss a beat when he gets back.

[DesignatedT]

Now it's Gee's time to shine.

[rjv]

while this sux, we all have to just deal with the reality of the NBA. injuries are part of it. the heat are without miller, the mavs are missing beaubois, the rockets are a mess, portland, utah, LA (both teams) so we just have to get the other members of the team to play at a higher level. if the spurs come apart at the seams because james anderson is out for 6-10 weeks then that is a telling sign IMHO.

[eric365]

RJ is the kind of guy that can play 40 mpg for a season and still have gas. He has done it with the Nets and the bucks.
It would limit the impact.

[DesignatedT]

I'm not necessarily worried about our team without Anderson but it's just unfortunate that he was fitting in perfectly and now he is going to have to start over in a way when he gets back in 6-10 weeks.

[Ocotillo]

I hope this does not portend that he becomes china doll like.

[Obstructed_View]

Another reason to be grateful for the fast start.

[Tp9gospursgo]

I love James Anderson. :( but maybe Pop will play Neal more.

[eric365]

It will give more minutes to Hill also.
He has only 20mpg this year. Hopes it will help him to be confident again

[Cane]

Sucks ass but this is the reality of the NBA and its not like he wasn't already injured when he was drafted anyway. Here's hoping to a healthy and speedy recovery.

[Prodigal]

That really is terrible news...hopefully he can make it back sooner.

[Russ]

Stress fractures in the foot tend to recur.

Hopefully, this will be one and done.

[GSH]

Corrected by ChumpDumper. Random neurons firing.

[ChumpDumper]

This sucks for the Spurs, but I can't stop thinking about how unfair it is for Anderson. He was in position to really get paid next year. By the time he gets back, and into game shape, the rotations are going to be much more solidified without him. At best, he will probably have to put in another season to prove himself before he could get a better contract. I know the Spurs will do right by him, but I still feel really badly for him.He's a long way from being in a contract year.

[J_Paco]

This is the shittiest part about sports: injuries. Hopefully, Pop and the rest of the front-office/coaching staff can bring in or play someone that can limit the negative impact of this injury. Saddest part is that the kid was really balling and creating good chemistry with Manu, Tony, Tim and R.J. Get well soon, James.

[Chieflion]

This sucks!

[Leonard Curse]

jesus please !! will you ever let upon the injuries of this team if its not the old manu ankles then its the young prospects that are playing well for us!! cut this hit out already dammit

[Nathan89]

First Bonner:(
Now Anderson:cry
I thought god was a Spurs fan.:depressed

[GSH]

He's a long way from being in a contract year.

You're right. Total brain blip. He's on a rookie scale contract. Still a shame, but he doesn't have to worry about that.

[Xevious]

RJ's going to have to play more minutes. Manu will be the first back to the bench and will back up RJ when he sits. George Hill and Gary Neal are going to have to pick up some slack at the two.

I doubt Gee sees the floor any more than he has.

[Ditty]

I wonder if spurs make an early season trade now using there 1st rounder for this with this injury, especially if some of yall are saying he may not return for quite a while. Doubt Wilson Chander would be traded he has been playing real good this year. so I wonder who the spurs go after now? Could bobby simmons come back if he can? I'm pretty sure Spurs will bring another 3 more for insurance policy but most likely will go with Gee now, but going with more of the lineups they used last year with the 3 guard lineup in ginobili,hill and parker on the floor when jefferson rests.

[JustinJDW]

Awesome. Just awesome. :wakeup

[rfbulletdude]

scola

[jjktkk]

I'm not necessarily worried about our team without Anderson but it's just unfortunate that he was fitting in perfectly and now he is going to have to start over in a way when he gets back in 6-10 weeks.

You know I don't think Anderson will have any problem with fitting right in, once hes back. Thats exactly what he has done from day 1. He plays like hes been in the league for 5 years, instead of a rookie.

[Das Texan]

Maybe Pop will play around with a super big lineup with Bonner as the SF.

[Obstructed_View]

Maybe Pop will play around with a super big lineup with Bonner as the SF.

The Blair/Bonner small forward rotation was floated in here a few months ago. Pop's a Nellie disciple and would rather lose with three guards than even try three bigs.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Damn

[Das Texan]

The Blair/Bonner small forward rotation was floated in here a few months ago. Pop's a Nellie disciple and would rather lose with three guards than even try three bigs.


Didnt the Spurs use the Triple Towers lineup in the 90s? Or was that before Pop with Bob Hill still?

[Budkin]

Motherfucker!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Absolutely horrible news. That injury possibly eliminates him from the season altogether. Getting dickslapped by the basketball gods on that one.

[dbestpro]

Don't freak, but a little birdie just said that the Spurs might sign Michael Finley.

[8FOR!3]

Don't freak, but a little birdie just said that the Spurs might sign Michael Finley.

Christ...He's been working out in the Lifetime Fitness at The Rim just about everyday for at least the past few weeks. I hope this is bull.

[MarHill]

Finley is coming back!! :lmao:lmao:lmao

He will make nice with Pop for the way he left last season.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[benefactor]

Bonner may play some 3.
:lol

[ohmwrecker]

Let's name some 3s that Bonner can defend . . . uh . . .

[Sean Cagney]

SHYT, so much for the stay healthy part of this season. Injuries staring the hell up already.

[Obstructed_View]

Didnt the Spurs use the Triple Towers lineup in the 90s? Or was that before Pop with Bob Hill still?

You're right. Robinson, Duncan, and Will Perdue. I guess I should say that he'll only go with three bigs if two of them are hall of famers and another one has three championships. :)

[Sean Cagney]

First Bonner:(
Now Anderson:cry
I thought god was a Spurs fan.:depressed

He is a Spurs fan if Bonner got hurt and missed games:blah:rollin:rollin. Why is that a bad thing?

[Obstructed_View]

Let's name some 3s that Bonner can defend . . . uh . . .

Bonner couldn't defend any fours or fives, but it didn't stop him from starting. I'm much more comfortable having him defend small forwards for the ten minutes he's in the game. Another difference in having him play small forward is he's not the last line of defense against the guy he's guarding. Ideally he'll have some combination of Splitter/Duncan/Blair/McDyess backing him up if and when someone manages to get past him.

[8FOR!3]

You're right. Robinson, Duncan, and Will Perdue. I guess I should say that he'll only go with three bigs if two of them are hall of famers and another one has three championships. :)

lol, Bonner's got a championship ring.

[ducks]

scola

scola needs to be *** on this site

[ivanfromwestwood]

Don't freak, but a little birdie just said that the Spurs might sign Michael Finley.
sign bruce bowen

[Pauleta14]

The silver lining is that Hill will get more playing time thks to his versatility...

Anderson willl be bck in January eventualy won't hit the rookie wall and will have enough time to feel comfortable before the PO...

It's a bad news, but come on! we can do without him for 2 months!

[DPG21920]

Corey Brewer, Brandon Rush are a few names that theoretically could be available.

[Pauleta14]

Corey Brewer, Brandon Rush are a few names that theoretically could be available.

At what price?

Who would you get rid of for any of them?

[MannyIsGod]

I heard you pimping him in person on the Kori Ellis Show last season. It's good to hear if you have changed your opinion since then(though playing him more then was just as bad of an idea).

Pimping him? More like sick of Bogans and Mason. I don't see how picking one pile of shit over two smellier piles of shit is pimping anyone. I've had a long history of not wanting Pop to play him but OK.

[TD 21]

For those who said the Spurs were fine at SF, what say you now? As I said all summer, rotation wise they'd be fine if Anderson could contribute right away, but depth-wise, they were never fine and sure enough it's already coming back to haunt them. Quite frankly, they got what they deserve. You don't go that thin at a position, especially when your have aspirations about playing a 100+ game season.


Personally, I'd like the Spurs to give Neal and Gee the first shot at replacing JA's minutes. Sure, it will make the Spurs even smaller on the perimeter but they should be able to survive. Ginobili has defended a lot of small forwards over the years. And honestly, at this stage of Ginobili's career, he's a better post defender than he is at chasing quick guards out on the perimeter. Ginobili ain't gonna let no one bully him.

The only way I'd want to trade for a small forward would be if the Spurs fear JA may be out for the season. Same goes for signing a free agent. Knowing the Spurs, I'm sure their thinking about Jarvis Hayes and, even worse, Michael Finley to get a SF with size who can shoot.

I suspect they will. But I doubt they give Gee a long leash and suspect they've already started looking for a replacement.

I am for a trade. Whether he's out for the season or not, he can't be counted on at this point. He's a rookie and therefore inherently an unestablished player to begin with. Who knows where he'll be at coming off this injury?

Short of a trade, Hayes makes the most sense.


That's why I believe Pop will consider bringing Manu off the bench, now. Pop will still have the Big 4 in there in crunch time, but I think Anderson's injury is a starting lineup changer. Neal is 6'4" (yes, he's a good 1 1/2 to 2 inches taller than Hill) but he's a small-ball-only 3. Gee is a big question mark.

Chip will just need to work with George and DeJuan on their shooting that much more. Which begs the question. Is there any correlation between Hill and Blair making such major strides in the weight room this summer and their poor FG% (.375 and .306 respectively)?

I doubt it. Not instantaneously because of this injury, at least. Rotationally, not much changes. Ginobili may come out a minute sooner, Jefferson may stay in a minute longer, but all this means minutes wise is Hill will play more and Neal will be in the rotation full time. Defensively, obviously Ginobili and probably Hill, will have to defend SF's more.

Neal is not a small-ball 3; he's strictly a two.


With Pop, it's probably more like 8 + 6.

Just as I had suspected, he's essentially done for the season. The way Pop babies players coming off injuries, how will he handle a rookie, who'll have missed a lot of time and potentially be coming back (if it is around All-Star break, as you suggest) around the time when a playoff rotation is in the midst of being established? Will he make time to, for almost a month, play him in 4-5 minute spurts and work him back in, waiting for him to get up to speed? I doubt it.

The position will probably be addressed by then and so long as that player is even adequate, he'll probably just stick with him.


Corey Brewer, Brandon Rush are a few names that theoretically could be available.

The Spurs 1st probably isn't enough to get Brewer. It probably is for Rush, but with his constant off court issue, I doubt they'd take a chance on him.

Young, I think they could get, but don't see them being all that interested because he's an abysmal outside shooter.

They'll probably just end up signing Hayes.

[Yorae]

scola

Could someone ban this c*ntf*ce's ass? Sacrifice him for JA's speedy recovery..:bang

[Darkwaters]

God damn it. I don't even remember him getting hurt last night.

A stress fx is not typically the result of a singular event. It typically develops over time and repeated stress. They're really common in runners that just keep pushing themselves even after it hurts... This is probably not from one bad step, but rather from repeatedly pushing through the pain.

[spurs10]

Anderson was playing about 18 minutes and averaging about 7ppg...that's pretty substantial minutes backing-up RJ. Guess we'll find out against Philly who will fill his shoes.

[Silver&Black]

Thank God Richard Jefferson is awesome

[spurs10]

Thank God Richard Jefferson is awesome
He has been playing "awesome." :toast

[lilvic922]

this fucking suck

[DBMethos]

Seeing as how this overlaps almost perfectly with Bonner's return, I look forward to watching Matty miss the crunch-time 3's that JA would have made. :toast

[elbamba]

Other rookies have to step up. This also means more shots for Hill and Splitter. I hope that Hill can continue to build on the Clippers game. He has been disappointing so far.

[hater]

IMO this obviosly means more playing time for Bonner

[Spurminator]

That's why I believe Pop will consider bringing Manu off the bench, now. Pop will still have the Big 4 in there in crunch time, but I think Anderson's injury is a starting lineup changer. Neal is 6'4" (yes, he's a good 1 1/2 to 2 inches taller than Hill) but he's a small-ball-only 3. Gee is a big question mark.

I really hope not. I would rather sign an Anderson replacement to take his minutes or plug in someone else, but we need to maintain a consistent starting lineup and rotation. Moving Manu to the bench while Anderson is out, then back to the starting lineup if/when he's back, is not an attractive option. Pop has tinkered around with the rotation until February/March the last two seasons, I'd love to see it established much earlier this season.

[dunkman]

Bad news, Anderson has great upside. The bench production will suffer. 2 months out, he also missed the pre-season, the Spurs won't be able to count much on him for the playoffs.

[spurtech09]

really sucks but spurs will do fine without james.....the bench is not going to suffer at all

[temujin]

8 weeks for a stress fracture?

No way.

[Thompson]

The SA Dispatch twitter link at the top of the page says that he'll need surgery and 8 weeks is 'optimistic.' I wonder if the Spurs are desperately seeking a trade for a backup 3, or if they'll see what Gee can give them. Either way, Anderson might not see much (if any) time in the playoffs. I wonder if there's any way he can stay in near-game shape while he's healing (perhaps swimming/biking with it immobilized or something)?

[Giuseppe]

Maybe you guys could take the Suns protocol in such dire matters:::look on the sunny side, portend it's a good thing & brazen it out.

Aside from that advice maybe it's like a harbinger of bad tidyings over your Neal dalliance. You know we paid dearly for our Kobe dalliance for a number of years after the fact before it started moving the other way.

[yavozerb]

The SA Dispatch twitter link at the top of the page says that he'll need surgery and 8 weeks is 'optimistic.' I wonder if the Spurs are desperately seeking a trade for a backup 3, or if they'll see what Gee can give them. Either way, Anderson might not see much (if any) time in the playoffs. I wonder if there's any way he can stay in near-game shape while he's healing (perhaps swimming/biking with it immobilized or something)?

I really would not count on Anderson to return until a minimum of 12 weeks, which would put his return around late feb. to early march. Even then I do not expect much from Anderson with his conditioning being very sub-par. I hate to say it, but I really think Anderson may be done for the season..

[polandprzem]

he can stay in physical shape but a game shape is a different thing


Not great news damnit

[yavozerb]

he can stay in physical shape but a game shape is a different thing


Not great news damnit

I would not even worry about game shape at this point cause Anderson will not even be able to stay in physical shape on one foot. Not going to happen, sorry...

[Solid D]

I wonder if the Spurs are desperately seeking a trade for a backup 3, or if they'll see what Gee can give them....

Likewise. If I'm RC Buford, I'm proactive in working out players and looking at 2nd tier trade options to find a better fit at SF than Alonzo Gee. If Gee can show something at this point, it will be a glorious and unexpected blessing.

[polandprzem]

I would not even worry about game shape at this point cause Anderson will not even be able to stay in physical shape on one foot. Not going to happen, sorry...

Yea you right

he probably gonna be sitting on a couch eating chips, burgers an pizza watching games. :tu

[ace3g]

Hornets waived Joe Alexander today according to Sam Amick; NBA national writer, AOL's FanHouse.com

[MaNu4Tres]

Hornets waived Joe Alexander today according to Sam Amick; NBA national writer, AOL's FanHouse.com

I wonder why they waived him.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Where the fuck did this come from? I don't remember him getting injured!

[dunkman]

Likewise. If I'm RC Buford, I'm proactive in working out players and looking at 2nd tier trade options to find a better fit at SF than Alonzo Gee. If Gee can show something at this point, it will be a glorious and unexpected blessing.

Gee looked as true NBA player the few games he had chance to play.

[TD 21]

Gee looked as true NBA player the few games he had chance to play.

So did Temple...until he didn't. That's the risk you run with fringe players and that's why you should never have too many, especially when you're a team with championship aspirations and are only carrying 13 players.

Ultimately, I don't see Gee being a fit. He's not particularly adept at 3 or D and the Spurs need at least one of those things out of the backup three role.

I hope he proves me wrong, though. It would be nice to have a young, athletic player capable of filling that role rather than having to resort to signing someone like Hayes. Unfortunately, Hayes is probably the better fit.

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN

James Anderson, out 2 months with fracture in foot, said he didn't feel anything until he woke up after Wed game. Was shocked at diagnosis.
11 minutes ago via web

[Cant_Be_Faded]

We will not truly feel this injury until late december thru feb when Jefferson and Neal have cooled off and every team is clogging up the paint against us.

This
fuckin
sucks

[The_Worlds_finest]

We will not truly feel this injury until late december thru feb when Jefferson and Neal have cooled off and every team is clogging up the paint against us.

This
fuckin
sucks

+1 I agree. It was obvious last night vs the 6ers how important Anderson already is.

[rjv]

as to beaubois...

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5812153

hopefully, anderson does not have the same initial setbacks or else he could miss the season, essentially.

[mountainballer]

as to beaubois...

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=5812153

hopefully, anderson does not have the same initial setbacks or else he could miss the season, essentially.

Beaubois suffered exactly the same injury. (fifth metatarsal bone) he is out for 14 weeks now and if he just got his walking boot off, it will likely take another 6 weeks, till he can play a NBA game again.
it's pretty long, but also an example how hard to predict the healing of a fracture sometimes can be.

so or so, Spurs have to prepare for the worst case.
which could mean no Anderson till march, or for the whole season.
they for sure won't make a move before Dec. 15th, but after that date they should at least prepare some options. if they learn by new year, that Anderson will need significant more time, they should pull the trigger.

btw. Sam Young is now definitely out of the rotation in Memphis.

[Blackjack]

Beaubois suffered exactly the same injury. (fifth metatarsal bone) he is out for 14 weeks now and if he just got his walking boot off, it will likely take another 6 weeks, till he can play a NBA game again.
it's pretty long, but also an example how hard to predict the healing of a fracture sometimes can be.

so or so, Spurs have to prepare for the worst case.
which could mean no Anderson till march, or for the whole season.
they for sure won't make a move before Dec. 15th, but after that date they should at least prepare some options. if they learn by new year, that Anderson will need significant more time, they should pull the trigger.

btw. Sam Young is now definitely out of the rotation in Memphis.

Who would you rather have as it pertains to fulfilling what the Spurs need on both ends of the court, Young or Greene?

[Mel_13]

Who would you rather have as it pertains to fulfilling what the Spurs need on both ends of the court, Young or Greene?

I'll take the guy who didn't lose a starting gig in the NBA by showing up 25 pounds overweight to training camp.

[TJastal]

Kinda wish the spurs would have grabbed Hakim Warrick for a late 2nd round pick like the suns did. Would have fit perfect as RJ's backup, he's athletic enough to play the 3 and would have been our answer to the lakers' Matt Barnes.

Hindsight = 20/20 I guess. But Warrick is paying huge dividends for the suns now.

[Mel_13]

Kinda wish the spurs would have grabbed Hakim Warrick for a late 2nd round pick like the suns did. Would have fit perfect as RJ's backup, he's athletic enough to play the 3 and would have been our answer to the lakers' Matt Barnes.

Hindsight = 20/20 I guess. But Warrick is paying huge dividends for the suns now.

Spurs couldn't make that trade. They didn't have the cap space or a trade exception large enough.

[ChumpDumper]

Beat me to it.

[Blackjack]

I'll take the guy who didn't lose a starting gig in the NBA by showing up 25 pounds overweight to training camp.

Yeah, I'm a Young fan. I was actually pimping him pretty hard during the draft.

And looking back, I think it would have been a tough decision for me choosing between he and Blair at the time. It's obviously turned out to be a great pick and I didn't have any problem with the Spurs picking Blair at the time, but I really wanted them to improve on the wing and I was high on Young -- plus there were the injury and size concerns of Blair.

That said, Greene's got great size, the ability to really play some solid D and knock down the 3. He's got greater potential than Young for the Spurs, but I just don't know enough about him as a person to know if he's worth the investment of faith.

[Leonard Curse]

im sure thespurs will be extra cautious, take as long as it needs for the xrays to show strong bone growth

[Leonard Curse]

oh and if i were anderson i'd purchase a hyperbaric chamber and live in that thing for 2 weeks

[Bruno]

Regardless of who you rather have between Donte Greene and Sam Young, Greene should be easier to get.
Young has a damn nice little contract. Even if they aren't high on him, Chances are that Memphis rather keep him at the end of their bench than trading him for almost nothing.
Greene's contract is also small but Kings could be tempted to dump his contract that will pay him $1.7M next year.

[ChuckD]

How long do trade exceptions last? Do we still have one from shipping out Ratliff last year?

[TD 21]

Pretty sure they last a year to the day after they were acquired.

[Russ]

Foothealthfacts.org (yes, that's the name) says the following about stress fractures of the fifth metatarsal (not particularly comforting):


Fractures of the Fifth Metatarsal

What is a Fifth Metatarsal Fracture?
Fractures (breaks) are common in the fifth metatarsal – the long bone on the outside of the foot that connects to the little toe. Two types of fractures that often occur in the fifth metatarsal are:

•Avulsion fracture. In an avulsion fracture, a small piece of bone is pulled off the main portion of the bone by a tendon or ligament. This type of fracture is the result of an injury in which the ankle rolls. Avulsion fractures are often overlooked when they occur with an ankle sprain.

•Jones fracture. Jones fractures occur in a small area of the fifth metatarsal that receives less blood and is therefore more prone to difficulties in healing. A Jones fracture can be either a stress fracture (a tiny hairline break that occurs over time) or an acute (sudden) break. Jones fractures are caused by overuse, repetitive stress, or trauma. They are less common and more difficult to treat than avulsion fractures.

http://www.foothealthfacts.org/footankleinfo/fifth-metatarsal_fractures.htm

The problem is that any basketball player is bound to put pressure on that outer metatarsal when running, cutting, etc. The fact that those activities probably caused the break in the first place only adds to the danger.

Non-traumatic foot injuries are hell for basketball players. Just ask Bill Walton or Grant Hill.

[mountainballer]

Who would you rather have as it pertains to fulfilling what the Spurs need on both ends of the court, Young or Greene?

hm. first off, I wouldn't sneeze at either in the current situation. (assuming the price is right)
I was leaning towards Young, but thinking about it a bit I now say Greene.
I guess it's out of any discussion, that without the red flags Greene would be ranked 3 or 4 tiers higher than Young in a scouting report. he is superior in almost any bb aspect (size, skills, shooting, athleticism, age, versatility).

looking at the immediate impact, both should be a wash. they would take the back up SF spot and get about 10-15 MPG. not that this wasn't important, but I try to point to the level of impact. so, if you choose the "wrong" of the two, it doesn't exactly ruin the season.

so upside becomes more of a criteria and prioritizing that aspect I go with Greene. he is (obviously) the player that offers more potential AND he also looks like a better fit when looking at a potential Spurs core for the future.

Hill-Anderson-Greene-Blair-Splitter looks really well balanced considering abilities and size of the players. (missmatch potential from Greene balances some of the size disadvantage Blair will always cause). Greene's potential to play (and defend) the perimeter PF is a huge plus. (while Young can't do much what Anderson doesn't do much better). Greene does have starter potential, something that Young definitely doesn't offer.

finally my major point: I do trust the Spurs coaching stuff, to be able to bring the good out of a player like Greene and the Spurs vets to help him to mature. and if they do, Spurs will have a damn good player.

[ChumpDumper]

Screw trades. Not worth it at this point.

[mountainballer]

what about good trades?

[ChumpDumper]

what about good trades?I doubt there are too many good trades to be had in mid-November.

[Blackjack]

I agree, mountainballer. I like Young more but the things you mentioned are essentially why I said I'd take Greene on the Spurs over Young if given the choice.

Greene could turn out to give the Spurs some of the same things Jackson gave them. I just know nothing about him as a person other than the negatives that have led him to fall out of favor. But, again, his situation is somewhat similar to Hedo's final days in Sac.

There's definitely some hope for him.

[Bruno]

With Gee waived, Greene isn't an option anymore. Spurs can only get players with min salaries or players paid less than $925,497 (Ratliff's TE + $100K) without trading Anderson, Hill, Blair or McDyess.

[Blackjack]

With Gee waived, Greene isn't an option anymore. Spurs can only get players with min salaries or players paid less than $925,497 (Ratliff's TE + $100K) without trading Anderson, Hill, Blair or McDyess.

I don't see them making a trade for a marginal-to-backup-type. Said that from the beginning. If they can get Young for nothing, I'm guessing it'd be hard to not pull the trigger. But I don't see it happening -- just shooing the shit about players.

They may need to part with one of the aforementioned players down the line, but I don't believe that's something you'd do at this point.

[Blackjack]

Donte Greene to Start for 'Forseeable Future' (http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2010/11/18/1822854/donte-greene-to-start-for-forseeable-future)


The Bee's Jason Jones reports (http://twitter.com/#!/mr_jasonjones/status/5382998211952640) that, at practice today, Kings coach Paul Westphal announced Donte Greene will be the starting small forward for the "forseeable future."

[mountainballer]

I doubt there are too many good trades to be had in mid-November.

don't tell me I need to use blue for you.

however. not many good trades in Novemeber. that's right. but I would still claim that for example Ariza for Brian Cook or Sjax for Radmanovic/Bell worked pretty well for some teams.

[SenorSpur]

The injury to Anderson was unfortunate - especially considering the amount of time he will miss. He was just starting to develop into a key rotation player. We can only hope that this will not be a major setback in his development.

I wonder how quickly Danny Green can get himself aclimated to the system, in order to contribute in Anderson's absence?

[jjktkk]

The injury to Anderson was unfortunate - especially considering the amount of time he will miss. He was just starting to develop into a key rotation player. We can only hope that this will not be a major setback in his development.

I wonder how quickly Danny Green can get himself aclimated to the system, in order to contribute in Anderson's absence?

Similar system to the one Green played in Cleveland, but can Green live up to his potential, or will the Spurs continue to look for other sf options?

[SenorSpur]

Similar system to the one Green played in Cleveland, but can Green live up to his potential, or will the Spurs continue to look for other sf options?

An even better question.

[Mel_13]

Similar system to the one Green played in Cleveland, but can Green live up to his potential, or will the Spurs continue to look for other sf options?

Given what Pop said when Green was signed, I doubt that they have stopped looking.


JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Green gets high marks from Danny Ferry and ex Cavs coach Mike Brown. Pop: "We'll get him in the fold for a while and see what we think."

[SenorSpur]

Donte Greene to Start for 'Forseeable Future' (http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2010/11/18/1822854/donte-greene-to-start-for-forseeable-future)

Well, since Greene is not OFF the table - for now, I would still be very happy if, somehow, the Spurs could make a play for Sam Young. He just doesn't seem to be favored by the Grizz coaching staff, as Xavier Henry seems to have supplanted him in the rotation - at least for now.

Here's the latest book on Young:


http://games.espn.go.com/fba/resources/playernews?sportsId=4020

News: Young only played a bit more than two minutes in the Grizzlies' loss Monday.

Spin: The short stint on the court followed a DNP on Saturday, and Young's playing time has taken a sharp nosedive of late. He has not racked up double-digit minutes since Nov. 3, and he also had a DNP on Nov. 6. He appears to be healthy, so it looks like coach Lionel Hollins either is not happy with something in Young's play or is simply playing the matchups.

[angelbelow]

Sam Young is an interesting play. I orginally wanted the spurs to draft Young but Blair just happen to be there, and ofcousre Young was taken a pick later.

I watched on during the summer league and followed his stats here and there during the regular season and both have been underwhelming. During the SL, he was slow and couldnt get his shot off with any accuracy.

At the right price would still love to pair him up with blair again, the kids still got tons of potential.

[Mel_13]

Sam Young is an interesting play. I orginally wanted the spurs to draft Young but Blair just happen to be there, and ofcousre Young was taken a pick later.

I watched on during the summer league and followed his stats here and there during the regular season and both have been underwhelming. During the SL, he was slow and couldnt get his shot off with any accuracy.

At the right price would still love to pair him up with blair again, the kids still got tons of potential.

I also like Young, but I don't think DeColo or a future second round pick is going to get it done. Seems like it would take Hill or a future first round pick and I don't think Young is worth either one.

[jjktkk]

Well, since Greene is not OFF the table - for now, I would still be very happy if, somehow, the Spurs could make a play for Sam Young. He just doesn't seem to be favored by the Grizz coaching staff, as Xavier Henry seems to have supplanted him in the rotation - at least for now.

Here's the latest book on Young:

I definitely would. I would always be interested in guys that come from Pitt. Year in and year out Pitt always plays a very physical brand of ball. Their players are usually hard nosed and usually are polished defensively.

[jjktkk]

i also like young, but i don't think decolo or a future second round pick is going to get it done. Seems like it would take hill or a future first round pick and i don't think young is worth either one.

+1.

[angelbelow]

I also like Young, but I don't think DeColo or a future second round pick is going to get it done. Seems like it would take Hill or a future first round pick and I don't think Young is worth either one.

Agreed, even if the Grizz give up on Young theyre going to sell his youth and potential.

I pointed out a few things that I didnt like but here are some areas where I think he can help.

His physical play, this was apparent up close and personal during the summer league. In fact, he was probably the only grizz that maned up against our physical toughness. Hes not the ideal height (6'6 i think) but hes got a pretty good wingspan (6'11).

[8FOR!3]

I also like Young, but I don't think DeColo or a future second round pick is going to get it done. Seems like it would take Hill or a future first round pick and I don't think Young is worth either one.

Agreed and once Anderson is back our small forward position should be set with he and RJ for at least a few years to come.

[ChuckD]

I also like Young, but I don't think DeColo or a future second round pick is going to get it done. Seems like it would take Hill or a future first round pick and I don't think Young is worth either one.


+1.

Why would a former second round pick who can't get off their bench command a first round pick in return?

[dbestpro]

Why would a former second round pick who can't get off their bench command a first round pick in return?

Good question. Seems like a future 2nd round pick could get it done.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Talked to James Anderson before game. He's got a pin in his foot now. Supposed to be on crutches for a week. Already ready to ditch them.

[Mel_13]

Why would a former second round pick who can't get off their bench command a first round pick in return?

1. Where he was drafted in June, 2009 is irrelevant to his value in November, 2010.

2. I didn't say he would command a first round pick. I listed the assets the Spurs currently possess that would work under the rules to acquire Young. My estimation is that DeColo or a future Spurs second round pick (projected in the mid 50s) would not be enough to pry Young from Memphis. Moving along to more valuable possessed by the Spurs, I estimated that Hill or a first round pick would get the job done, but that Young would not be worth either one. A future second rounder projected in the 30s would be about right, but the Spurs do not own such a pick.

[xmas1997]

I thought they got a second round pick from New Orleans this year. What happened to that?

[Mel_13]

I thought they got a second round pick from New Orleans this year. What happened to that?

Conditional 2014 pick, top 55 protected.

[LeCrab]

Hurry back he means a lot to this team and right now it is showing....

[tuncaboylu]

How much remain for his comeback?