Pacquiao-Margarito Thread

[KapitanTutan]

Pacman vs Handwraps

http://beatsboxingmayhem.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pacquiao-margarito.jpg?w=520&h=292

The congressman in 8.

[ezau]

Pacquiao via UD

[tlongII]

It depends on what Margarito wraps his hands with.

[TheMACHINE]

hmmm...Margarito is alot bigger...but thats what everyone says in every pacquiao fight. LOL. So based on past fights..i say TKO in the 7th! LOL

[TheMACHINE]

Live weigh in

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5795451

[ace3g]

Pacquiao-Margarito

144.6 vs 150 pounds

[TheMACHINE]

wow....they got to be like 4 inches difference too

[dbreiden83080]

Manny's speed should be way too much here as long as he is properly trained. All that congress stuff on 24/7 was concerning.. Antonio is gonna keep coming and make a fight of it but he is likely just gonna get hit way too much. Even when he beat Cotto, he got hit over and over and over coming in. He just eventually wore Cotto out with pressure and body shots when on the ropes.. If Manny doesn't get tired or sits in the corner eating too much body damage, he should have this fight easy..

[Man In Black]

Pac in 9!

[Man In Black]

Roach speaks!!!
http://c.espnradio.com/audio/451513/lalive_2010-11-02-184313.32.mp3

[milkyway21]

speed vs size

144 lbs vs 150 lbs

I hope Pacquiao will win this one.

[KapitanTutan]

pressure is on Margarito.

dude needs this fight to cleanse his name in boxing.

[me15lo]

undercards are on.

cant wait

[Sense]

I hope Margarito wins... but I've hoped that for just about every Mexican boxer that has fought Pacman, hopefully this one pulls it off...

[NickiRasgo]

Go Pacman!

[KapitanTutan]

pacquiao interviews are still painful to watch/hear

[phyzik]

Drama in the dressing rooms. They better go on with the fight.

[resistanze]

Maybe someone can direct me by PM on where I can purchase this fight.

[DMX7]

How are you people watching it?

[hater]

I was watching it for free online but streams got too slow.

I purchased this shit and now it is BS cause that fucker Margarito trying to drink coffee and some other shit that got Freddy Roach pissed off.

fucking cheating mexicans

[hater]

this fight got some drama

[ace3g]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Controversy brewing. Freddie Roach has accused Margarito of taking Ephedra and has demanded a drug test.

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
HBO apparently has footage of Margarito pouring something into a cup. Texas commission has denied Roach's request for test.

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
In the ultimate irony, Margarito's camp is complaining about Pacquiao's hand wrap. This could get interesting.

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
The likelihood of hell breaking loose is high because this is Texas, home of the simpleton commission that licensed Margarito in first place

[KapitanTutan]

wow that coffee got some fucking drugs on it or what?

[hater]

margarito's camp also was shown making fun of Freddy Roach's parkinsons. damn if margarito somehow wins this it would be evil.

[KapitanTutan]

shit is on

[Hooks]

I'd bang the D-Boy's cheerleaders...

[resistanze]

Those bitches can sing.

[DMX7]

Did you sons actually pay for it?

[Hooks]

Those bitches can sing.


Yep, they were all in sync with eachother, I'm surprised.


wtf nellie lol

[hater]

what the fuck? Nelly? for real?

this is pathetic

[hater]

Dallas is a sorry ass town

[Cry Havoc]

Almost there!

[KapitanTutan]

what the heck stfu nelly lets get this started

[in2deep]

someone put this guy out of his misery

(im talkin about Nelly) :pctoss

[resistanze]

It's just a dreeeeeaam!

No seriously, hurry this shit up.

[fmedrano1977]

Dude I've had service with Grande Communications for about 2 yrs now, and never been charged for any PPV I've ordered. So I watch just about every damn PPV event. Watching in the comfort of my home in HD fo free!

[Cry Havoc]

Pacquiao just needs to stay away from the big punches and not get caught flush and he should take this. A couple of those punches in Round 1 really snapped Margarito's head.

[Cry Havoc]

19-19 on my card after 2 rounds. Margarito is big, and his jabs could wear Manny out, I'm sure they hurt even with Manny's guard up.

[Cry Havoc]

Round 3 was all Pacquiao. 10-9 easily, as his flurries actually seemed to hurt Margarito that round.

[resistanze]

Damn.

[resistanze]

Marg took a beating that round.

[Cry Havoc]

Round 4 a huge round for Pacquiao, as he opens a massive cut under the right eye of Margarito. Antonio staggered a couple of times and almost went down.

Manny's punches are incredibly precise.

[Cry Havoc]

Round 5 was extremely close, I'll call it 10-10, although Pacquiao held a slight advantage, Margarito got a couple of big uppercuts in.

[baseline bum]

Hey res, I'm also interested in finding where to purchase this fight.

[Cry Havoc]

The cut under Margarito's eye doesn't appear to be worse.

[Killakobe81]

Man, not surprised Manny is winning ...but Manny making him look sloooooow.

floyd has to fight Manny no one else can compete with his speed.

[Killakobe81]

Margarito has to swarm him to have any shot ...

[Cry Havoc]

Best round of the fight so far. I give it narrowly to Margarito. Manny still up a point on my cards.

[resistanze]

Hey res, I'm also interested in finding where to purchase this fight.

I'll direct you to the box office.

[Cry Havoc]

Round 7 barely to Pacquiao. I don't know if he can consistently hurt Margarito enough to knock him out of this fight.

Right eye starting to deteriorate for Antonio. Might be the determining factor.

[resistanze]

Marg putting up a good fight.

[Cry Havoc]

Round 8... the winner was the crowd and anyone watching this fight. Wow. 10-10 on my card.

[Killakobe81]

Wow, great round. Margarito is a true, classic Mexican fighter. He never backs down ...

[Killakobe81]

Manny fighting smart, but I wish he would trade shots ...

[Killakobe81]

Great hand-speed and foot-work by Manny.

[Cry Havoc]

Margarito starting to slow drastically in Round 9. Manny takes another round 10-9, landing many more punches. Margarito's face is looking gooey.

[Killakobe81]

That eye is jacked ...

[Cry Havoc]

Round 10 ends.... I'll be surprised if they don't stop it right here.

[Cry Havoc]

Ouch, that eye is destroyed.

[Killakobe81]

That is a 10-8 round ...

Manny taking over ...Floyd vs. Manny FTW!!!

[Cry Havoc]

To Margarito's credit, he's a beast. He hit Manny with a ton of good shots.

Margarito has guts. Basically he's the opposite of Floyd Mayweather.

[resistanze]

Too many punches.

[Cry Havoc]

It's all Pacquiao. He just has to stay on his feet and it's over.

[resistanze]

Gad damn, his eye is gonna burst.

[Cry Havoc]

What a fantastic show by Pacquiao. Dominance in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I think this cements Manny as a top fighter of all time with no question.

[Cry Havoc]

118 to 111 on my card.

[DMX7]

Top fighter all time? Hell no! He has yet to fight me!

[Hooks]

WOW Margarito robbed

[Cry Havoc]

Top fighter all time? Hell no! He has yet to fight me!

A top. Not THE top. Manny is top 10 of all-time easily, probably quite a bit higher on that list.

[Cry Havoc]

Oh, and FUCK YOU MAYWEATHER. Grow a pair and fight Pacquiao so you can have your ass handed to you.

[baseline bum]

Margarito looked like he was about to get Bushwick Bill'd; if only fights still went 15.

[Hooks]

The only fighters I can see beating Pac or at least giving him a competitive fight would be Mayweather, Sergio Martinez, and P-Will. P-Will's defense is shit but he could stay on the outside and keep Pacquiao away from him, Martinez is the best fighter at 154 he's just an overall great fighter, and Mayweather of course is just an overall beast.

[Cry Havoc]

The only fighters I can see beating Pac or at least giving him a competitive fight would be Mayweather, Sergio Martinez, and P-Will. P-Will's defense is shit but he could stay on the outside and keep Pacquiao away from him, Martinez is the best fighter at 154 he's just an overall great fighter, and Mayweather of course is just an overall pussy.

ftfy

[Cry Havoc]

Margarito looked like he was about to get Bushwick Bill'd; if only fights still went 15.

Why would you want that? The fight was over at the end of the 10th. It shouldn't have gone 12. 15 rounds could have done permanent damage to Margarito.

[fmedrano1977]

The only fighters I can see beating Pac or at least giving him a competitive fight would be Mayweather, Sergio Martinez, and P-Will. P-Will's defense is shit but he could stay on the outside and keep Pacquiao away from him, Martinez is the best fighter at 154 he's just an overall great fighter, and Mayweather of course is just an overall beast.

That would be on shear size! Manny goes any higher he will eventually get his ass beat!

[baseline bum]

Why would you want that? The fight was over at the end of the 10th. It shouldn't have gone 12. 15 rounds could have done permanent damage to Margarito.

I was joking. I don't really want to see that.

[fmedrano1977]

Mayweather ducks fighters then waits till they get old..

[Cry Havoc]

I was joking. I don't really want to see that.

Ah, ok. :lol I couldn't tell if you were joking.

[DMX7]

Oh, and FUCK YOU MAYWEATHER. Grow a pair and fight Pacquiao so you can have your ass handed to you.

He doesn't want none of me! Dat little bitch is on roids, dats why he won't Olympic style drug test. I'm all about integrity, dats why I adhere to the highest of moral, ethical and legal standards.

-Philty Rich

[LakerHater]

So Many has more wins in Cowboys stadium than the cowgirls!

[NickiRasgo]

Just got home. :D Our neighborhood allowed us to watch with them, we're like around 50 watching together. :D And Pacman won his 8th title. That's great for us. :D

Mabuhay Pilipinas!

[KapitanTutan]

"There was no way I was gong to quit. I'm a Mexican, we fight until the end"

props to antonio. though he got his face pummeled.

[TheGreatest23]

damn...pacquiao purposely backing up to the rope to feel Margaritos power. He did that with Cotto and he did it again with Margarito. Dude's a beast.

LOL at pacquiao "admitting" he was hurt. lol at Kellerman pretty much telling floyd to fight pacman now since he got hit alot of times this fight.

Looks like Top Rank and HBO pretty much pretending pacman is weak and its time for Floyd to not be scared. hahha

[redzero]

I like how Kellerman called out Mayweather after the fight.

[TheGreatest23]

i like Lampleys response even better...something like "so a few years from now, we can say that Mayweather waited for Pacquiao to fight 5 bigger guys..." lol

[Whisky Dog]

What a fantastic show by Pacquiao. Dominance in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I think this cements Manny as a top fighter of all time with no question.

That was a great fight, but keep in mind that was a Margarito without hand cement, and all we know of a Margarito without hand cement was that he got destroyed by Shane Mosely. Not exactly beating Rocky Marciano here although Margarito is very tough.

[TheGreatest23]

That was a great fight, but keep in mind that was a Margarito without hand cement, and all we know of a Margarito without hand cement was that he got destroyed by Shane Mosely. Not exactly beating Rocky Marciano here although Margarito is very tough.

ahhh so ur saying Margarito is handicapped without the cement. kk:rolleyes

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Margarito looked like he was about to get Bushwick Bill'd; if only fights still went 15.

ROFLROFL
now i know why they elected you first team all ST

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Is there any way to watch a replay of this fight?

[TheMACHINE]

Just imagine a man chopping a large tree down, only to stop because he "pitied" the tree. Lol

[Jloyola]

So Many has more wins in Cowboys stadium than the cowgirls!

:lol

[DMX7]

Is there any way to watch a replay of this fight?

HBO, son. They replay it a week later.

[TheMACHINE]

Margarito's trainer is a dumbass for letting the fight go on that long.

[KapitanTutan]

Margarito's trainer is a dumbass for letting the fight go on that long.

“He has the worst corner. It probably ruined his career by not stopping the fight. He might never fight again. He took too many unnecessary punches.”

- Roach

[TheGreatest23]

yah..when kellerman asked him if he wanted to stop the fight,,,i was telling my buddy that he better say "yes", but he said "never"...i was like, you aint training anyone else cuz of that answer.

a fighters job is to keep fighting...a trainers job is to put the pride aside and throw in the towel.

[Cry Havoc]

That was a great fight, but keep in mind that was a Margarito without hand cement, and all we know of a Margarito without hand cement was that he got destroyed by Shane Mosely. Not exactly beating Rocky Marciano here although Margarito is very tough.

Margarito is a fantastic fighter who has a great record. He is much bigger and stronger than Manny, and has a huge reach advantage. If you can't acknowledge that it was an incredibly difficult fight and an incredible show of dominance from Manny, then I don't know what to tell you. Manny didn't just dart around and win on punches. He physically dominated Margarito in every sense of the word. Something I seriously doubt Mayweather would even try, let alone be able to accomplish.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Can't wait till mayweather gets ko'd by this guy

[dbreiden83080]

Margarito is a fantastic fighter who has a great record. He is much bigger and stronger than Manny, and has a huge reach advantage. If you can't acknowledge that it was an incredibly difficult fight and an incredible show of dominance from Manny, then I don't know what to tell you. Manny didn't just dart around and win on punches. He physically dominated Margarito in every sense of the word. Something I seriously doubt Mayweather would even try, let alone be able to accomplish.

Margorito is a good fighter but the fight played out as i thought it would and most of the media. I really don't see why this fight got made other than Floyd would not sign the deal? Antonio didn't lose to an out of prime Mosley he was beaten as bad or worse than he was last night and KO'd.. He had no chance in this fight and he is maybe what like the 10th or 11th best fighter Manny could have fought. I think Clottey was tougher..

Side note the Floyd fight is probably never happening.. Floyd just doesn't want it..

[dbreiden83080]

Can't wait till mayweather gets ko'd by this guy

KO no way... Decision maybe.. But i don't think it's gonna happen..

[fmedrano1977]

He doesn't want none of me! Dat little bitch is on roids, dats why he won't Olympic style drug test. I'm all about integrity, dats why I adhere to the highest of moral, ethical and legal standards.

-Philty Rich

Then you beat your bitch and threatened your kids!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Margarito looked like he was about to get Bushwick Bill'd; if only fights still went 15.

Holy fucking shit I saw a picture of Margarito and you weren't exaggerating.

He was close.

[TheMACHINE]

Margorito is a good fighter but the fight played out as i thought it would and most of the media. I really don't see why this fight got made other than Floyd would not sign the deal? Antonio didn't lose to an out of prime Mosley he was beaten as bad or worse than he was last night and KO'd.. He had no chance in this fight and he is maybe what like the 10th or 11th best fighter Manny could have fought. I think Clottey was tougher..

Side note the Floyd fight is probably never happening.. Floyd just doesn't want it..

What?! DB got a pac prediction right? Unheard of! LoL

[Oh, Gee!!]

meanwhile, mayweather is looking for a tin can to win an easy 12-round decision against in his next boring fight/slapping match.

[tlongII]

Mayweather has some legal issues to get through. If he does he'll probably need money and that will force him to fight Pac Man.

[KapitanTutan]

damn!

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=5805223

Antonio Margarito to have surgery

Antonio Margarito, the Mexican super welterweight beaten badly by Manny Pacquiao on Saturday night, suffered a fractured orbital bone and was to have surgery Tuesday in Texas, Top Rank promotor Bob Arum told The Associated Press on Sunday.

Margarito, who lost in a lopsided, 12-round decision, was taken directly to the hospital via ambulance after the fight to have cuts to his face examined.

That is when the injury to his eye socket was discovered, and he remained in the hospital Sunday, Arum said.

Margarito had skipped the postfight news conference at the request of the fight doctor and people in his camp, an unusual move for such a big fight.

Legendary Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach was critical of the late-round decision-making of Margarito's corner, saying they should have forced a stoppage.

"There was no way I was going to quit. I'm a Mexican, we fight until the end," Margarito said.

Pacquiao (52-3-2, 38 KOs), giving away both pounds and inches, won the 150-pound, WBC super welterweight belt to extend his record with a title in an eighth weight class -- two more than Oscar De La Hoya.

"He's a very tough guy," Roach said of Margarito (38-7, 27 KOs). "I was surprised how tough he was. He has the worst corner. They probably ruined his career by not stopping the fight."

Pacquiao turned Margarito into a bloody and nearly blind fighter with a dizzying array of punches, dominating from the opening rounds on at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

The beating was so thorough that the congressman from the Philippines turned to referee Laurence Cole several times in the 11th round, imploring him to stop the fight.

"I told the referee, 'Look at his eyes, look at his cuts,'" Pacquiao said. "I did not want to damage him permanently. That's not what boxing is about."

It went on, though, even though Margarito had no chance to win.

"I can't believe that I beat someone this big and this strong," Pacquiao said. "It's hard. I really do my best to win the fight."

Pacquiao moved up in weight yet again to take on Margarito, a natural welterweight with a reputation for ruggedness in the ring.

And rugged he was, though he took a beating all night long at the hands of a faster and seemingly more powerful opponent.

Pacquiao won every round on one scorecard, 120-108, and was ahead 119-109 and 118-110 on the other two. The Associated Press had it a 120-108 shutout.

[dbreiden83080]

What?! DB got a pac prediction right? Unheard of! LoL

Hey had to happen sooner or later right :lol

[dbreiden83080]

I still like Floyd and the way he fights but the only fight for him is the Manny fight. If he wants to fight a few more times and keep making excuses as to why he won't fight Manny well his pay-days are gonna get smaller and smaller. Manny has basically beaten every top contender he can that' in his weight range, unless he wants to go all the way up to middleweight which is around 160 pds.. I wouldn't think so he's only 5'6 for god's sake.. At a certain point Manny will lose some of that great speed edge if he goes up too much.. Floyd needs to take this fight or retire..

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Floyd's a giant piece of scared shit.

He doesn't want to risk damaging his legacy.

[m33p0]

damn...pacquiao purposely backing up to the rope to feel Margaritos power. He did that with Cotto and he did it again with Margarito. Dude's a beast.

LOL at pacquiao "admitting" he was hurt. lol at Kellerman pretty much telling floyd to fight pacman now since he got hit alot of times this fight.

Looks like Top Rank and HBO pretty much pretending pacman is weak and its time for Floyd to not be scared. hahha
he got a ruptured spleen because of that stunt.

[dbreiden83080]

Floyd's a giant piece of scared shit.

He doesn't want to risk damaging his legacy.

His legacy is the issue here. That 0 clearly means a lot to Floyd but it has become worthless to most given what Manny has done the last few years. I still like Floyd but he has to man the fuck up here...

[TheMACHINE]

Floyds legacy would be better going 41-1 with pac in his resume then 41-0 without it.

[KapitanTutan]

Floyds legacy would be better going 41-1 with pac in his resume then 41-0 without it.

x2

[in2deep]

you know after watching this fight, Floyd is probably even more scared to face Paquiao. Before he was scared pacman could ruin his legacy, now he is probably scared pacman will also ruin his face.

I see chance of Floyd vs. Pacman happening at -5%

Pacman is not only the champion, he is also the fighter noone wants to face. I remember 2 recent guys had those qualities: Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson prime.

IMO Pacman is reaching #1 fighter ever status. If he wins a couple more fights(Cotto, Mayweather, other) he should retire as #1 boxer ever.

[desflood]

Floyds legacy would be better going 41-1 with pac in his resume then 41-0 without it.
:tu

[The Reckoning]

fuck im about the same height, weight and dimensions as margarito. maybe i should pick up boxing again...i was pretty damn good when i trained under an olympic boxing coach...then i punched out an older guy and got out of it because i was afraid of being sued.

[Cry Havoc]

you know after watching this fight, Floyd is probably even more scared to face Paquiao. Before he was scared pacman could ruin his legacy, now he is probably scared pacman will also ruin his face.

I see chance of Floyd vs. Pacman happening at -5%

Pacman is not only the champion, he is also the fighter noone wants to face. I remember 2 recent guys had those qualities: Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson prime.

IMO Pacman is reaching #1 fighter ever status. If he wins a couple more fights(Cotto, Mayweather, other) he should retire as #1 boxer ever.

Knock knock.

"Who's there?"

Sugar Ray Robinson.

[TheMACHINE]

Knock knock.

"Who's there?"

Sugar Ray Robinson.

thats who pacquiao should be compared too...not a pussy like Floyd wifebeater Gayweather.

[in2deep]

Knock knock.

"Who's there?"

Sugar Ray Robinson.

you can't really compare what happened more than 50 years ago to today. I was talking about modern boxing (less 50 years ago)

yeah the legend of Robinson is amazing, if true he was probably a God in a human's body. Let's talk about mortals.

[dbreiden83080]

thats who pacquiao should be compared too...not a pussy like Floyd wifebeater Gayweather.

Seems like the window for this thing was as open as ever 6 months ago and now it''s just dead.. It's so rare that a fight of this magnitude where so much money is to be made just doesn't happen..

[Slydragon]

Floyds legacy would be better going 41-1 with pac in his resume then 41-0 without it.

:toast

[baseline bum]

Floyds legacy would be better going 41-1 with pac in his resume then 41-0 without it.

By being dragged kicking and screaming into the fight and then getting beaten on top of that? Sorry, I think the only thing that saves Floyd's legacy is if he goes in and decisively beats Manny; no split decision. If he loses to Pacquiao all anyone will remember is how scared he was and how that fear ended up being justified.

[sa_butta]

I agree the only thing holding Mayweather back from being the best is stepping into the ring with Pacman, but he is too worried about tarnishing that undefeated record I don't believe it will ever happen...He is content where is at and Pacman is just the better fighter. If Pacquiao left boxing right now he would still have a more memorable legacy than Mayweather.

[TheMACHINE]

I agree the only thing holding Mayweather back from being the best is stepping into the ring with Pacman, but he is too worried about tarnishing that undefeated record I don't believe it will ever happen...He is content where is at and Pacman is just the better fighter. If Pacquiao left boxing right now he would still have a more memorable legacy than Mayweather.

i agree....i guess mayweather fans will always have "undefeated" as thier arguement. But i can simply respond with "Resume". :p:

[urunobili]

Maywhat?

[Cry Havoc]

you can't really compare what happened more than 50 years ago to today. I was talking about modern boxing (less 50 years ago)

yeah the legend of Robinson is amazing, if true he was probably a God in a human's body. Let's talk about mortals.

What about Muhammed Ali? Roy Jones Jr.? Tyson? Joe Lewis? Sugar Ray Leonard? Foreman? Holyfield? Would you be so quick to put Manny above all of them?

[TheNextGen]

Maywhat?

Floyd "No More Money" MayNever

[TheNextGen]

What about Muhammed Ali? Roy Jones Jr.? Tyson? Joe Lewis? Sugar Ray Leonard? Foreman? Holyfield? Would you be so quick to put Manny above all of them?

Those are all great fighters, but seeing Pac move up and fighting the best in every division is impressing.

[Cry Havoc]

Those are all great fighters, but seeing Pac move up and fighting the best in every division is impressing.

You could also say that boxing talent/exposure is far worse than it has been in the past few decades, thus making it easier for Manny to dominate.

[TheNextGen]

You could also say that boxing talent/exposure is far worse than it has been in the past few decades, thus making it easier for Manny to dominate.

that would be nit picking and unfortunate to the boxers who are truly great in this era.

[TheGreatest23]

lol hopkins saying manny avoids black american fighters.

[KapitanTutan]

lol hopkins saying manny avoids black american fighters.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5820908

ok b-hop. too bad your best(?) black fighter is a pussy.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Omg! Margarito is a f-ng giant compared to manny, and manny takes all the punishment and delivers more in comparison. Pretty boy Floyd would get dead if he fights manny

[TheNextGen]

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5820908

ok b-hop. too bad your best(?) black fighter is a pussy.

which black fighters (from the streets) did Floyd fight? Sharmba Mitchell? Mosely from the hardcore streets of Pomona? LOL

[KapitanTutan]

The only fighters I can see beating Pac or at least giving him a competitive fight would be Mayweather, Sergio Martinez, and P-Will. P-Will's defense is shit but he could stay on the outside and keep Pacquiao away from him, Martinez is the best fighter at 154 he's just an overall great fighter, and Mayweather of course is just an overall beast.

uhm..