Do you miss malik now?

[LeCrab]

he could of been our answer to back up jefferson... he had good d :depressed

[Andy25]

he could of been our answer to back up jefferson... he had good d :depressed

No. Neal is a better shooter.

[Leonard Curse]

i do miss the guy i think we could have made him just a pure defender and nothing else and he def. had the tools to do it

[Obstructed_View]

He's hurt, so it doesn't really matter, does it? If it does, I'll bring up how much better Hairston was from three point range than Neal was last year.

[wildbill2u]

nah, Rose went to NY a long time ago.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You must have a long memory. Malik hasn't been worth a damn for a good seven years now.

[jeebus]

we already got an replacement undersized power forward in blair. only difference is blair has straight teeth

[Blackjack]

It really doesn't matter if we, THC or otherwise, miss him now because the Spurs didn't cut him. He asked for his release after being presented with a better opportunity -- which the Spurs were good enough to oblige him.


You must have a long memory. Malik hasn't been worth a damn for a good seven years now.

Let's not let the facts get in the way of a good scoff, now. :lol

[Spursfan 87]

not really

[jjktkk]

i do miss the guy i think we could have made him just a pure defender and nothing else and he def. had the tools to do it

To stick in the NBA you have to be able to do something besides play defense. Bruce Bowen was a great 3 point shooter, as well as a great perimeter defender. Hairston still has a chance to play in the NBA, provided he can improve on his jumpshot.

[BackHome]

Please don't even try to compare Hairston defense to Bruce they are not even in the same ball park.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I miss the Malik Rose we traded away after we gave a big contract to.

[manustarting2gd]

Neither Hairston nor Rose. Pls crab elsewhere. Lock pls.

[jaffies]

Who else didn't get the OP question until clarification in the 4th response?

[MinuteByMinuteSports]

No. Neal is a better shooter.

Neal is more consistant than Malik was/is

[yavozerb]

First off Malik would have been cut even he had not asked out in preseason, so it doesnt matter since he had like 0% chance to be in this team..With that said, yes, I do miss Malik cause the guy played with alot of heart and never seemed to back down from anyone.

[Bruno]

Spurs waived Hairston because of a combination of health troubles and a poor level. They have been damn right on the health troubles part. Hairston was out a long time because of his back and he is now out with a inguinal hernia. Future will tell for the poor level part.

And given that Hairston isn't able to play right now, he surely wouldn't have been able to back up RJ.

[Cane]

Do I miss bad back, fringe NBA player Malik Hairston? Hell no but at least he had that cool leaning dunk that one time...wonder if that screwed up his back though. I do miss James Anderson however :depressed.

[MaNu4Tres]

Spurs waived Hairston because of a combination of health troubles and a poor level. They have been damn right on the health troubles part. Hairston was out a long time because of his back and he is now out with a inguinal hernia. Future will tell for the poor level part.

And given that Hairston isn't able to play right now, he surely wouldn't have been able to back up RJ.


Spurs didn't waive Hairston because of his skill-level or because of an injury ( even though he's been hampered by several minor injuries; including his back and now is recovering from surgery due to a hernia).

Spurs waived Hairston because Hairston asked to be released for a better opportunity, simple as that.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs totally could have won last night if Malik played.

[Bruno]

Spurs waived Hairston because Hairston asked to be released for a better opportunity, simple as that.

Nope, you're wrong.
Hairston said himself that it was Spurs' move to send him overseas.

[MaNu4Tres]

Nope, you're wrong.
Hairston said himself that it was Spurs' move to send him overseas.

Really?

http://tmi.me/2IPlh

And about his injury situation...

http://tmi.me/2IPCJ

[Bruno]

Really?

http://tmi.me/2IPlh



Yep, really.

http://www.menssanabasket.it/site/detailNews.aspx?K=6476


I have a very close relationship with San Antonio. I clearly dream of returning to the NBA. They sent me to Europe to play a lot of minutes and gain experience. They told me about a staff in Siena that helps players grow.

[Texas_Ranger]

Right now I do miss Malik Rose.

[Blackjack]

Yep, really.

http://www.menssanabasket.it/site/detailNews.aspx?K=6476

Malik asked the Spurs for his release, Bruno. And that's not hearsay or anything that could be misconstrued. Malik told me himself.

I'm sure he consulted Pop and Co. about the opportunity and asked what they thought about the club, or they had a genuine conversation about what was best for him moving forward, but the departure was initiated by Malik -- which makes sense given the timeline; Coach Bud and others were speaking glowing terms of Malik about a week prior to his release. Speaking in a way that suggested they planned on him being a Spur for some time to come.

And the current injury apparently doesn't have anything to do with the injury he had back in SA. At least, it's not the same injury. I believe he said it was "a totally different injury," or something to that effect.

[EricB]

Mm believe an Internet poster or believe Hairston.

I'm gonna be nuts and go with Hairston.

[UnWantedTheory]

Spurs didn't waive Hairston because of his skill-level or because of an injury ( even though he's been hampered by several minor injuries; including his back and now is recovering from surgery due to a hernia).

Spurs waived Hairston because Hairston asked to be released for a better opportunity, simple as that.

Yeah, he sought a better opportunity because he couldnt truly crack the squad as a legit contributor getting quality minutes....hmmm.... I wonder why he asked for a release that the Spurs were more than obliged to grant?

[UnWantedTheory]

Really?

http://tmi.me/2IPlh

And about his injury situation...

http://tmi.me/2IPCJ
Those tweets(?) do not say anything definitive in regard to your argument. So they were supportive?.....

[Blackjack]

Those tweets(?) do not say anything definitive in regard to your argument. So they were supportive?.....

Are you purposely avoiding the person who actually talked with Malik?

[UnWantedTheory]

Are you purposely avoiding the person who actually talked with Malik?
Avoiding what? You said he said....and? I know what I have read countless times and in countless reports.

Whether he truly asked for it or not is irrelavent to me. The point is why he asked. He obviously couldnt hack it here. So yeah, I am sure the Spurs agreed to part ways with someone who wasnt getting it done. If that wasnt the case, he would have stuck here and been given quality minutes, instead of heading overseas for playing time.

[Blackjack]

Avoiding what? You said he said....and? I know what I have read countless times and in countless reports.

Whether he truly asked for it or not is irrelavent to me. The point is why he asked. He obviously couldnt hack it here. So yeah, I am sure the Spurs agreed to part ways with someone who wasnt getting it done. If that wasnt the case, he would have stuck here and been given quality minutes, instead of heading overseas for playing time.

You picked an appropriate username. :tu

[UnWantedTheory]

You picked an appropriate username. :tu
Awww shucks....for some reason I feel as if that was intended to be a sarcastic insult. How will I ever go on? :king

[UnWantedTheory]

You picked an appropriate username. :tu
BTW, I commend you on your creativity. I have never heard that before.
:rolleyes

[Bruno]

Malik asked the Spurs for his release, Bruno. And that's not hearsay or anything that could be misconstrued. Malik told me himself.

The source from where the quotes I've given come is reliable. It's highly unlikely that they are wrong or that there have been some kind of misunderstanding.

And what is easier to say for Hairston? "Spurs weren't high enough on me to keep me with my back troubles" or "I wanted to go overseas"? It's possible that Hairston didn't want to enter in this kind of details with you and just went with was what easier to say.

It reminds me the story with Parker and the WC last summer. Serious journalists in France were all saying that he was out at 99%. A blogger (I don't remember who it was) talked to Parker who said that he will play and made a blog entry on that. We know how it turns out.



I'm sure he consulted Pop and Co. about the opportunity and asked what they thought about the club, or they had a genuine conversation about what was best for him moving forward, but the departure was initiated by Malik

It's sure that Spurs didn't come one day and said to Hairston "go to Italy" or Malik didn't come one day and said "Waive me".
It takes two to tango. Spurs were fine with releasing him and Hairston was fine with going overseas. Who make the initial move isn't that a big deal even if I'm truly convinced that it was Spurs. Hairston being waived just after having back issues is a too big coincidence.



Coach Bud and others were speaking glowing terms of Malik about a week prior to his release. Speaking in a way that suggested they planned on him being a Spur for some time to come.

It doesn't make sense.
When a team is really high on a player, they don't release him even if he want to play overseas (see Rudy Fernandez).
And it also proves nothing. Spurs' staff often say nice thing about a player even if he is waived or on the verge to. Most of the time, it has more to do with the attitude and work ethic of the player than his level of play.



And the current injury apparently doesn't have anything to do with the injury he had back in SA. At least, it's not the same injury. I believe he said it was "a totally different injury," or something to that effect.

Nobody said that the second injury is related to the injury he had in SA.

The first injury was a big one with Hairston missing 3 months. This back injury showed that Spurs were right with being concerned about his back.

I mentioned the second injury for two reasons:
First, it is the reason why he doesn't play right now making he idea that he could back up RJ right now moot.
Second, back injuries are a big deal. It will takes months of playing at a good level for Hairston to be sure that he is healthy again. This hernia surgery delay that. It's possible that Hairston isn't at all done with his back issues.

[Blackjack]

If you ask me to tell you what I believe happened as a whole and not just whom initiated the release, you're going to get two different answers.

First off, Malik told me he initiated the release after I made the assumption that his injury and their tax situation was the reason he was no longer a Spur. I didn't ask him what happened, he volunteered it and then made sure to tell me how cool they were about the whole thing.

I completely understand what you're saying about someone wanting to make it look better, save a little face or whatnot, but it was nothing like that. He was very matter of fact about the whole thing and wanted to make sure I knew he and the Spurs were on good terms.

Now saying that, I believe the Spurs were in a little bit of a tough situation -- as tough as it can be for a player fulfilling one of your last roster spots. I believe wholeheartedly they wanted to keep him for a circumstance just like this, where they had an injury on the wing, but the injury and tax line really left a lot of uncertainty. I'm sure they were contemplating what to do considering the unknown extent of the injury -- the Spurs can't afford to have players on the roster this year that can't contribute to the cause, sans maybe one Toros prospect that has a decent amount of potential.

So my guess is Malik's agent was quite aware of the insurance-policy role he'd have on the team -- one that could preclude him from getting the minutes to improve his game to any great extent -- and began to put out some feelers; he looked to see if he could find Malik a quality opportunity where he could develop and make a little more money. And once that opportunity presented itself, I'm guessing Malik got together with the Spurs and they had a good conversation that prevented the Spurs from really even having to make a guesswork decision (because of the injury).

What I do know about the Spurs is, they always seem to do right by the players trying to make their way in the league. So even if Malik had not been hurt and came to them with the type of scenario I've suggested, I believe they would have told him the same thing: Sienna is a great opportunity for you financially and as a player and we support/encourage you to go make the most of it.

As an aside, and this is not aimed at you Bruno, I really don't get the people that find it necessary to weigh in on Malik or anyone else who's done all the right things and presented themselves as well as Malik did as a Spur, just to scoff or denigrate them because they're no longer on the team or because they have fans who wish they still were on the team. I really don't.

[ChumpDumper]

I really don't get the people that find it necessary to weigh in on Malik or anyone else who's done all the right things and presented themselves as well as Malik did as a Spur, just to scoff or denigrate them because they're no longer on the team or because they have fans who wish they still were on the team. I really don't.Uh, we do that to players who are currently on the team.

[Mel_13]

Uh, we do that to players who are currently on the team.

:lol

[Blackjack]

Uh, we do that to players who are currently on the team.

No, we scoff and denigrate players on the team because they are on the team.

And then said players go out and turn into Chuck Norris. :hat

[ChumpDumper]

No, we scoff and denigrate players on the team because they are on the team.

And then said players go out and turn into Chuck Norris. :hatWe scoff and denigrate players on the team, player who were on the team, players who weren't on the team, players who will never be on the team, refs, coaches, owners and front office people and especially other posters.

I guess one can wonder why we do such things, but that's like asking Mallory why he wanted to climb Mount Everest -- the only difference being most of the posters here will not end up dying in an attempt to scoff a basketball player.

I said most.

[dunkman]

He's actually a very good shooter, however he played marginal minutes in the NBA, basically the sample is too small. He only took 12 3PA in 67 games.

It's unclear if Malik asked to be released, because RC said he was sorry because the Spurs invested a lot in his development, which could mean they wanted to keep him.

Since he doesn't play now, he couldn't help.

I think that if he wasn't able to impress in two seasons, he wasn't good enough. His college career wasn't so great either.

But, he may eventually become better and return to the NBA at some point.

[Blackjack]

We scoff and denigrate players on the team, player who were on the team, players who weren't on the team, players who will never be on the team, refs, coaches, owners and front office people and especially other posters.

I get that. I understand that. But for someone like Malik who never had the opportunity to let the team down on the court or cost the Spurs anything as some kind of first-round bust (and, no, he didn't cost them Dragic to those that will make the argument - Dragic was a Suns pick. The Spurs wanted the additional second-rounder as opposed to one particular player left on the board), it's amazing that people take the time manufacture nonsense to justify him not being here or take the time to say good riddance.

The OP's question was "Do you miss Malik now?"

A no would suffice; or you could even state why it is you feel that way using facts or beliefs as to why the Spurs are better off. It's the animosity I don't get.


I guess one can wonder why we do such things, but that's like asking Mallory why he wanted to climb Mount Everest -- the only difference being most of the posters here will not end up dying in an attempt to scoff a basketball player.

I said most.

Probably smart you clarified. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

I get that. I understand that. But for someone like Malik who never had the opportunity to let the team down on the court or cost the Spurs anything as some kind of first-round bust (and, no, he didn't cost them Dragic to those that will make the argument - Dragic was a Suns pick. The Spurs wanted the additional second-rounder as opposed to one particular player left on the board), it's amazing that people take the time manufacture nonsense to justify him not being here or take the time to say good riddance.

The OP's question was "Do you miss Malik now?"

A no would suffice; or you could even state why it is you feel that way using facts or beliefs as to why the Spurs are better off. It's the animosity I don't get.I don't think people are hating on Malik per se. More likely they are tired of hearing what they feel are overestimations of his abilities or worth to the team in the past and now the present.

[Blackjack]

I don't think people are hating on Malik per se. More likely they are tired of hearing what they feel are overestimations of his abilities or worth to the team in the past and now the present.

No, they are. Because they take the gigantic leap of making any and all that support him and his ability to help a team, like he could have last year, as saying he's some kind of future star or that the Spurs will rue the day they let him get away.

Really, I think the animosity's at his supporters and it just happens to get projected upon Malik.

[E-RockWill]

Malik did do everything asked of him & I tend to believe it happened more along the lines of BlackJack. However, I can see some Bruno mixed in....I do miss the comfortable feeling that I got knowing that , if it came down to it, Malik could hold it down.
I miss it as much as having a 15-man roster & a "4 quarters" defense & the "hold them to 20 points/quarter" rule.

[ChumpDumper]

No, they are. Because they take the gigantic leap of making any and all that support him and his ability to help a team, like he could have last year, as saying he's some kind of future star or that the Spurs will rue the day they let him get away.

Really, I think the animosity's at his supporters and it just happens to get projected upon Malik.Isn't that pretty much what I said?

[Blackjack]

Isn't that pretty much what I said?

If I put in my words it makes me feel like I've figured it out for myself.

[Bruno]

I don't see a lot of Malik's trashing in this thread.

[Blackjack]

It's not one thread or one poster, it's constant potshots for no apparent reason.

It's not like it's some huge problem plaguing the board, just odd. But it's far from the only thing here you can say that about.

[Bruno]

It's not one thread or one poster, it's constant potshots for no apparent reason.

It's not like it's some huge problem plaguing the board, just odd. But it's far from the only thing here you can say that about.

While I agree with you that players get unfairly trashed, it seemed a little strange to say it in this thread where nobody trashed Hairston.

I can get that someone doesn't like the way a Spur plays, but going with insults is lame.