Where did it go wrong?

[Gutter92]

How does a player go from averaging 35 ppg to averaging 9 less points just 3 years later?

:downspin:

[Cry Havoc]

Kobe is posting career lows. He's obviously done. :lol

[PGDynasty24]

Who are we talking about here. Kobe was the last person to average 35ppg and that was 5 years ago not 3

[Killakobe81]

LOL

So much butthurt in this forum ...

[koriwhat]

gotta love these shitty threads by these shitty posters. thanks for shitting on ST you piece of shit!

[Cry Havoc]

Who are we talking about here. Kobe was the last person to average 35ppg and that was 5 years ago not 3

5 years, 3 years, an entire season, 13 games, Lakers fans don't care about little things like details and facts. :lol

[Jose Canseco]

Since that 35 PPG season, Kobe has been first, second, third, fourth, and currently second in scoring in the entire league. An elite player dropping down to roughly a 25 PPG scorer is a lot more understandable than dropping down to a 14 PPG scorer.

[Red Hawk #21]

gotta love these shitty threads by these shitty posters. thanks for shitting on ST you piece of shit!

Are you having the urge to use the bathroom?

[koriwhat]

Are you having the urge to use the bathroom?

nope, just sick of gutter and his annoying habits of trolling this site with nonsense.

where's the mavs krew at when you need some in-depth bball discussion? :lmao

[Gutter92]

Who are we talking about here. Kobe was the last person to average 35ppg and that was 5 years ago not 3

I am not talking about this season...in 06, he averaged 35.4, in '09 (3 years later), he averaged 26.8

thats a pretty big dropoff...


iirc when Jordan was putting up a RIDICULOUS 37ppg, he only dropped off like 3 ppg 3 years later...

[Gutter92]

nope, just sick of gutter cause he made fun of my calftats once :madrun:madrun:madrun

[Killakobe81]

How does a player go from averaging 35 ppg to averaging 9 less points just 3 years later?

:downspin:

You get the MVP of the league on your team, according to Spur fans ... LOL

[Gutter92]

Since that 35 PPG season, Kobe has been first, second, third, fourth, and currently second in scoring in the entire league. An elite player dropping down to roughly a 25 PPG scorer is a lot more understandable than dropping down to a 14 PPG scorer.

would you say that Kobe no longer has to score as much as he once did since he has better help?

[Gutter92]

You get the MVP of the league on your team, according to Spur fans ... LOL

so it's safe to say he's not scoring as much as he could because he doesn't have to, right?

[koriwhat]

i make people sick of me because i troll the club, the nba forum, and probably spurs forum too. not only that but i make threads that lead no where, aren't informative, and only my dumbass can decipher 99% of the time. i am a piece of shit poster here at ST. thanks!

btw gutter, so now that you're ol' slut is getting banged by some other dudes, has that dna gone on a waiver and been picked up by another poor unfortunate soul?

baby: daddy!
gutter: no, i'm not your daddy anymore. at one point i was but your mother started fuckin' another dude and since i have no concept of biology, you are now the spawn of another piece of shit.

[Gutter92]

That's four years later.

2006
2007
2008
2009

The fact that this escaped your grasp makes me question your mathematical capabilities and statistical analysis.


The season ended in April 2006,

2009 season ended April 2009...how many years have passed between the end of one season and the end of the next?

[Fpoonsie]

...prolly when your dad forgot to wear a rubber however many years ago.

[Gutter92]

:lmao

koriwhat


:rollin

calftats

[koriwhat]

...prolly when your dad forgot to wear a rubber however many years ago.

ok fpussy you get a :tu from me... every body gets one.

[koriwhat]

:lmao

biology

:rollin

maury

[Gutter92]

btw gutter, so now that you're ol' slut is getting banged by some other dudes, has that dna gone on a waiver and been picked up by another poor unfortunate soul?

baby: daddy!
gutter: no, i'm not your daddy anymore. at one point i was but your mother started fuckin' another dude and since i have no concept of biology, you are now the spawn of another piece of shit.

:lmao

LOL at you thinking if i get a girl pregnant and she starts having sex with another guy that its biologically my baby

:rollin


TAKE BIOLOGY SON! :lmao

[koriwhat]

:lmao

LOL at you thinking if i get a girl pregnant and she starts having sex with another guy that its biologically my baby

:rollin


TAKE BIOLOGY SON! :lmao

i made what's right bolded for you so you could better understand what actually happens.

btw, are you really that dumb?

[Gutter92]

i made what's right bolded for you so you could better understand what actually happens.

btw, are you really that dumb?


you obviously don't understand biology...

if a guy has sex with her after I did, it's not my DNA there...its his...I'll let you think about this for a little while now...

[koriwhat]

you obviously don't understand biology...

if a guy has sex with her after I did, it's not my DNA there...its his...I'll let you think about this for a little while now...

i'll let you think about this for a little while... you're a dumbass who can't comprehend the reality that if you got the chick pregnant, no matter how many dicks go in your slut of a gf afterwards makes no difference. daddy gutter!

[Gutter92]

i'll let you think about this for a little while... you're a dumbass who can't comprehend the reality that if you got the chick pregnant, no matter how many dicks go in your slut of a gf afterwards makes no difference. daddy gutter!


http://storageio.com/images/GregFishing.JPG


CAUGHT ME A BIG ONE GUYS!!!

[Jose Canseco]

would you say that Kobe no longer has to score as much as he once did since he has better help?

Yes. Kobe went from scoring at a historically unbelievable rate to being a top 5 scorer in the league. The drop-off is significant but he didn't go from good to mediocre. He went from historic to elite.

It's a considerably different than going from good to mediocre.

[Gutter92]

Yes. Kobe went from scoring at a historically unbelievable rate to being a top 5 scorer in the league. The drop-off is significant but he didn't go from good to mediocre. He went from historic to elite.

It's a considerably different than going from good to mediocre.

Historically good? He didn't average the most for his position even...(talking all time here)...where do you draw the line for what is "historic"?

Also, the point I am trying to make is...he's not scoring as much because he doesnt NEED to score as much...

[Jose Canseco]

Historically good? He didn't average the most for his position even...(talking all time here)...where do you draw the line for what is "historic"?

Also, the point I am trying to make is...he's not scoring as much because he doesnt NEED to score as much...

Kobe's 35.4 PPG in 2005-06 ranks 8th all time in single season scoring average. Wilt owns five of the seven seasons better than Kobe's. The other two are owned by Michael Jordan and Rick Barry. Those 8 seasons are also the only 8 seasons by an individual player to top the 35 PPG mark in the history of the league. Kobe's 35 PPG season was the first one since Michael in 1987-88. So it was the first one in 16 years.

Do you not consider that historic?

My point is that there's a difference between dropping off in production but still being elite than there is in dropping off in production and being mediocre. Since that 2005-06 season, Kobe has remained a top 5 scorer in the NBA each season, including the current one. That drop-off doesn't seem as significant as say dropping from a 20 point scorer to a 14 point scorer. When Kobe's scoring dropped off from 35 PPG, he still remained in the same company as LeBron, Wade, Carmelo, Durant, Dirk. 14 PPG is in the same company as Mike Dunleavy, Andre Miller, Carl Landry, Daniel Gibson, and Sonny Weems.

See the difference?

[Gutter92]

When Kobe's scoring dropped off from 35 PPG, he still remained in the same company as LeBron, Wade, Carmelo, Durant, Dirk. 14 PPG is in the same company as Mike Dunleavy, Andre Miller, Carl Landry, Daniel Gibson, and Sonny Weems.

See the difference?

Just outa curiosity, why would 26 ppg be "in the company" of 30 ppg scorers, but 14 ppg isn't "in the company" of 18 ppg scorers?

[Jose Canseco]

Once you get over the 25 PPG mark, there are very few players at that level of scoring. The players closest to Kobe the past three seasons are those players ranked around him. There are a lot of players around the 14.0 PPG mark in the NBA. Enough that the players ranked in that range score relatively close to the same, more so than once you get past the 25 PPG mark. There simply aren't a lot of other 25-30 PPG scorers. So that range is bigger in terms of including the "elite" scorers in the league.

NBA scoring leaders the previous three season:

2007-08
1. LeBron 30.0 PPG
2. Kobe 28.3 PPG
3. Iverson 26.4 PPG
4. Carmelo 25.7 PPG

2008-09
1. Wade 30.2 PPG
2. LeBron 28.4 PPG
3. Kobe 26.8 PPG
4. Dirk 25.9 PPG

2009-10
1. Durant 30.1 PPG
2. LeBron 29.7 PPG
3. Carmelo 28.2 PPG
4. Kobe 27.0 PPG
5. Wade 26.6 PPG

That's why those are Kobe's scoring peers and are his company. And you can also see that his scoring the previous three seasons has been around 27-28 PPG, not 26 PPG.

[LnGrrrR]

The season ended in April 2006,

2009 season ended April 2009...how many years have passed between the end of one season and the end of the next?

That's my bad. I misread your post. I didn't see that you said between years. Technically 2006 through 2009 is a four year span. Hence why I deleted the post. (After all, you were comparing his 2006 avg with his 2009 avg, which encompasses 4 years total.)

[Gutter92]

That's my bad. I misread your post. I didn't see that you said between years. Technically 2006 through 2009 is a four year span. Hence why I deleted the post. (After all, you were comparing his 2006 avg with his 2009 avg, which encompasses 4 years total.)


Yea, that's fine. I said years for a reason though :P I didn't say seasons, but it was very easily misunderstood, so its not your fault.

Jose, why is the cutoff 25 ppg? Why not 23? 22?