Live by the Bonner, die by the Bonner

[awktalk]

Only had the two 3s, but 4 boards with some good D and was a +9 overall. Game winner to boot. I luv me some Red Rocket.

[Obstructed_View]

I hope they just go ahead and start him again so you numbskulls can get him out of your system by the all-star break.

[Texas_Ranger]

Bravo Matt for those 2 threes, but other than that you SUCK!

[Kool Bob Love]

http://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/matt-bonner-jumpshot.jpg


BONNERS GOONA BON!!!

[Sisk]

Bravo Matt for those 2 threes, but other than that you SUCK!

:bang

[Kool Bob Love]

*gonna:depressed

[awktalk]

I hope they just go ahead and start him again so you numbskulls can get him out of your system by the all-star break.

OV, he's in the rotation the last 5 minutes of the game and in OT. Pop obviously is sold. We're going to live by the Bonner or die by the Bonner. And I want to live, so get on board.

[lil'mo]

Even I am starting to get pissed off with bonner and his bullshit drives to the basket. That shit is pathetic!

[Texas_Ranger]

OV, he's in the rotation the last 5 minutes of the game and in OT. Pop obviously is sold. We're going to live by the Bonner or die by the Bonner. And I want to live, so get on board.

We all should know that we will die in the playoffs with him.

[awktalk]

We all should know that we will die in the playoffs with him.

Not if he catches a hot streak for the month of June instead of November. It's going to take something like that for us to beat the Lakers. And our other options are not looking so hot. Spliiter? Gasol/Bynum/Odom will demolish him. His defense is horrible.

[Obstructed_View]

OV, he's in the rotation the last 5 minutes of the game and in OT. Pop obviously is sold. We're going to live by the Bonner or die by the Bonner. And I want to live, so get on board.

No, I'd rather Bonner start. Pop's one of the numbskulls to which I was referring. :)

[EricB]

Yeah I hate winning too.

[Texas_Ranger]

Not if he catches a hot streak for the month of June instead of November. It's going to take something like that for us to beat the Lakers. And our other options are not looking so hot. Spliiter? Gasol/Bynum/Odom will demolish him. His defense is horrible.

Well Darko was GOD tonight. No one could stop him.

[Nathan89]

What the hell happened to Bonner's sky hook. Last year he was really effective with that shot.

[ElNono]

Only had the two 3s, but 4 boards with some good D and was a +9 overall. Game winner to boot. I luv me some Red Rocket.

The bolded part is a joke, right?

[Mugen]

Matt Bonner will let you down in the end.

[yavozerb]

Keep the bonner threads coming..Maybe someday they will equal the bonner hater threads.

[SequSpur]

Yeah I hate winning too.

ericb is a puss....you need to bring tpark back...

[rayray2k8]

I guess..

[angelbelow]

Sometimes I wonder if these guys even watched the game.

[crc21209]

I admit I was yelling at my TV like crazy for Pop to yank him early on, but the guy did step up when it counted...:tu

[Nathan89]

Bonner showing signs of being clutch.:D

[awktalk]

The bolded part is a joke, right?

Well, if you think Splitter is a good defender, then there is no other conclusion other than Bonner is a good defender. Splitter gets shredded by every 6'8" guy in the league. Dude should be traded.

[underdawg]

boner shot his load early this season - he should shrivel up soon again

[underdawg]

Yeah I hate winning too.

T-wolves are pretty good too - I hope we don't meet up with them in the playoffs

[ElNono]

His last shot will erase anything before it, but if you look at his entire body of work tonight, he was pretty awful. In the first half it was so embarrassing defending against Love that Pop had to pull him and bring back Blair. In the second half, when matched against Tolliver, he did better.

In Matt's defense, I'll say he wasn't the only one sucking up a storm for a good chunk of the game. Blair was awful, Dice couldn't find his shot, both Splitter and Timmy couldn't stop Darko, Love abused whoever you put on him. Manu couldn't stay in front of their rook.

The second part was better, but in no small part from the Wolves ineptitude. Fouling Neal on the three to tie the game, Beasley being a turnover machine even in OT, Darko fouling out with a retarded foul in the perimeter...

I'm certainly glad we pulled this stinker against the T-Pups. It was probably one of the few teams you can play that bad and still pull out a win. We're going to have to play much better against Dallas.

[ElNono]

Well, if you think Splitter is a good defender

I don't think Splitter is a good defender. At least not yet, and certainly not tonight.

[Ice009]

Not if he catches a hot streak for the month of June instead of November. It's going to take something like that for us to beat the Lakers. And our other options are not looking so hot. Spliiter? Gasol/Bynum/Odom will demolish him. His defense is horrible.

You've now said Splitter sucks a few times.

How about actually giving the guy some court time to find his game and show what he can do. Really pathetic for people to say he is useless after one game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Splitter has been a good defender in most of the games that he's played this year..obviously he looked bad tonight..he'll need work to get better, needs NBA playing time, obviously..

The Bonner problem is just so difficult to figure out..I'm a supporter of his, but it's still puzzling..he's just such a unique player..

He's an average defender and a really poor rebounder..other players always get aggressive against him..he's useless when he's missing 3-point shots..he can't make any shots inside the arc..he's a proven playoff choker..

On the other hand..he's the best 3-point shooter in the NBA..he somehow always leads the Spurs in +/-..he clearly provides great spacing for the rest of the offense..his 3-pointers usually lead to runs from the Spurs, blowing games open or eventually taking a lead..

With the way this team is constructed, and with the way Pop coaches(meaning, he doesn't take Bonner out when he's missing early, he just keeps playing him), Bonner pretty much has to have at least a "pretty good" game for the Spurs to beat the top teams, at least IMO..I hope Pop finds a way to figure this all out by the end of the year, because clearly it hasn't worked out the last 2 years(although, obviously this team is better than those teams by a significant margin)..

[ElNono]

What I find concerning about Splitter, besides his lack of overall playing time, is his poor rebounding. You gotta get boards out there, especially against tall frontlines.
I also think he has all the tools to grow into a great defender eventually, but right now he's just learning the ropes of both the league and the system.

[HarlemHeat37]

I hate the way he tries to grab rebounds, it looks so soft and awkward..that's my main complaint about him so far..

[byrontx]

This year Bonner will do good in the playoffs. He is developing some real confidence. Problem in the playoffs before was that he passed up his shots.

[crc21209]

I hate the way he tries to grab rebounds, it looks so soft and awkward..that's my main complaint about him so far..

+1. Good to know I'm not the only one that's noticed. He goes up and tries to bat the ball around and his hands just look awkward as he tries to pull the board down...

[Mugen]

To be fair, darko and love were making flukey turnaround jumpers and skyhooks all night. Tiago adjusted and was very good defensively in the 4th against darko.

rebounding is an issue though because he has trouble using his length against stocky guys in the Love/Blair mold.

[Obstructed_View]

If Splitter sucks on defense based on tonight's performance, what does that say about Duncan and Bonner?

[Blackjack]

I was nothing but encouraged with Splitter's D.

Sure, there were mistakes. But all in all, I was tipping my hat to Darko and Love more often than not.

Love is a flat-out stud and Darko ... I'm not sure if I'd love or hate to have him if I was a coach. That guy could be dominant. And even if he never becomes dominant, he's still got a hell of a lot of size, ability and talent to be one hell of a front line piece -- shame the guy seems to lose a good amount in translation between the ears.

Fortunately enough for him, he does translate a good amount. At least, he's certainly no Mike Beasley.

[xellos88330]

Bonner is bending over all the haters. I can just hear him saying Mike Tysons' famous quote "I'll fuck you till you love me faggot!"

[jjktkk]

If Splitter sucks on defense based on tonight's performance, what does that say about Duncan and Bonner?

We already know about Bonner's lack of defense. He competes, but thats another story. I think more credit has to go Love and Milicic. Those two were making some tough shots. I do believe Splitter will improve as the season goes on. He seems like a smart guy.

[jjktkk]

Bonner is bending over all the haters. I can just hear him saying Mike Tysons' famous quote "I'll fuck you till you love me faggot!"

No Bonner hater here. But you might want to save this post till June. Bonner needs to answer some critics about disappearing in the playoffs.

[Obstructed_View]

We already know about Bonner's lack of defense. He competes, but thats another story. I think more credit has to go Love and Milicic. Those two were making some tough shots. I do believe Splitter will improve as the season goes on. He seems like a smart guy.

I agree. Splitter certainly did a better job of drawing fouls and making it difficult for those guys than Duncan and Bonner did. Pretty much once those guys got into a zone, they were going to be shooting the ball with confidence, and that's hard to combat. I'd love to have seen Duncan and Splitter try to do it together.

I suppose it's time for my daily repetition of "if Duncan's really a 4 then Splitter should be playing alongside him instead of relieving him". :lol

[angelbelow]

No Bonner hater here. But you might want to save this post till June. Bonner needs to answer some critics about disappearing in the playoffs.

Very respectful response, but I think that guy is a dumbass. In today's game, the entire team was shooting poorly, including Bonner. It was frustrating that the entire team was missing shots. In the 4th and OT, the entire team shot better, including Bonner. To isolate the notion that the people are trashing bonner and bonner only, for his missing his 3s, is just plain stupid. Many of the fans were commenting on how the team should STOP with the 3s and start being aggressive. To make things worse, they like to imply that it was Bonner alone that won that game - rather than our team as a whole. Absolutely idiotic.

[tvdij]

My firm belief is that Bonnar will fail the Spurs in the playoffs. He's a great regular season guy, when teams aren't taking away the three pointer, but in the playoffs, when every shot is contested, he will put the ball on the floor instead of letting it fly, and once that happens all bets are off.

I hope he continues to have very little hesitation in his shot, considering he is 6'10 and is unlikely to get his shot blocked at the three point line.

It's crazy that he and dice are the only guys who can guard mobile 4s on this team. I think he is also necessary defensively, as crazy as that sounds. I was shocked that Pop subbed Duncan out for Dice at the end of regulation, but it worked

[EricB]

Again as I've said in many other threads.

With the way the game went, I think its crazy to take ANYTHING of worth out of this game and analysis of the roster....

[cheney212]

im surprised bonners balls didnt shrivel up again and miss the clutch shot, so props to him

[jjktkk]

Very respectful response, but I think that guy is a dumbass. In today's game, the entire team was shooting poorly, including Bonner. It was frustrating that the entire team was missing shots. In the 4th and OT, the entire team shot better, including Bonner. To isolate the notion that the people are trashing bonner and bonner only, for his missing his 3s, is just plain stupid. Many of the fans were commenting on how the team should STOP with the 3s and start being aggressive. To make things worse, they like to imply that it was Bonner alone that won that game - rather than our team as a whole. Absolutely idiotic.

+1. Totally agree. I have never understood the hate Bonner receives on here. Maybe Spurs fan remember the glory days of the "twin towers" and hate Bonner for what he can't do on the defensive end, instead of what he brings on the offensive end, as well as his subpar playoff performances. I'm definitely pulling for Bonner, come this playoffs, to shed his choke label.

[SenorSpur]

No Bonner hater here. But you might want to save this post till June. Bonner needs to answer some critics about disappearing in the playoffs.

:toast

Well said.

I'll give Bonner props for a massively-critical 3-ball. However, the entire frontline was just god-awful. How difficult is it to box out the other guy? Anyway, a splendid win.

Personally, I celebrate that shot and the win. However, but before I jump on the Bonner bandwagaon, he's GOT to produce in the playoffs.

[z0sa]

Bonner owns the haters once again. Must feel bad being wrong about Bonner over and over again, including the ever popular vague criticism.

[diego]

I think that guy is a dumbass. In today's game, the entire team was shooting poorly, including Bonner. It was frustrating that the entire team was missing shots. In the 4th and OT, the entire team shot better, including Bonner. To isolate the notion that the people are trashing bonner and bonner only, for his missing his 3s, is just plain stupid. Many of the fans were commenting on how the team should STOP with the 3s and start being aggressive. To make things worse, they like to imply that it was Bonner alone that won that game - rather than our team as a whole. Absolutely idiotic.

agree completely, bonner was not the reason we won / nor would he have been the reason we lost. like most everyone he was bad at the start, good at the end: merely average. the team as a whole shot and defended poorly, and the team as a whole started getting some makes and defending better (and the wolves helped too with some really bad TO).

as for the +/- thing, we've gone over it many times- he plays the most off the big 3, and the team's style of play requires his skill (think of all the 3pt specialists this team has thrived with in the past 10 years). +/- doesnt mean jack when the playoffs start and matchups, tactical adjustments, and playoff pressure come into play. in that sense bonner is the poster boy for showing that +/- is not a conclusive measure of player value, unless anyone really thinks bonner is the best player on this team. anyone?

[ezau]

Splitter has been a good defender in most of the games that he's played this year..obviously he looked bad tonight..he'll need work to get better, needs NBA playing time, obviously..

The Bonner problem is just so difficult to figure out..I'm a supporter of his, but it's still puzzling..he's just such a unique player..

He's an average defender and a really poor rebounder..other players always get aggressive against him..he's useless when he's missing 3-point shots..he can't make any shots inside the arc..he's a proven playoff choker..

On the other hand..he's the best 3-point shooter in the NBA..he somehow always leads the Spurs in +/-..he clearly provides great spacing for the rest of the offense..his 3-pointers usually lead to runs from the Spurs, blowing games open or eventually taking a lead..

With the way this team is constructed, and with the way Pop coaches(meaning, he doesn't take Bonner out when he's missing early, he just keeps playing him), Bonner pretty much has to have at least a "pretty good" game for the Spurs to beat the top teams, at least IMO..I hope Pop finds a way to figure this all out by the end of the year, because clearly it hasn't worked out the last 2 years(although, obviously this team is better than those teams by a significant margin)..

Bonner is like a 6'9 Steve Kerr minus the clutchness.

[TJastal]

I didn't see the game, but from what I'm reading here from the ST regulars & also seeing the minutes distribution tonight as well as the stats I'm becoming more and more convinced Bonner should not be in the rotation. He makes far too many dumb decisions especially when teams run him off the 3pt line (which they are going to start doing more and more & especially come playoff time). His current 60%+ shooting from 3 pt range is bound to nosedive eventually, and when that happens, it's gonna get real ugly fast. Consider this: Bonner is shooting a measly 13% (3-22) from inside the arc. :vomit:

All Bonner is doing essentially is taking minutes from Splitter & Blair, both of whom will be much more instrumental in winning another championship and will need more minutes to develop their games and chemistry with the team. This is not gonna happen with Matt Bonner garnering 25+ minutes a game.

Not to mention His lack of defense places a burden on Tim Duncan every time the two play together, and this is bound to have consquences later on.

There's just so many negatives here to having Bonner play big minutes I just can't comprehend how Pop rationalizes it all. Even using the popular theory that Pop is just riding Bonner's hot hand doesn't make sense to me, because it still means the big rotation is fucking screwed because nobody is getting enough minutes or even consistent minutes from game to game.

I'd rather see Bonner dropped out of the rotation completely, and if the spurs need to spread the floor from the 4 spot, they have McDyess already, and also Ime Udoka now.

[underdawg]

I didn't see the game, but from what I'm reading here from the ST regulars & also seeing the minutes distribution tonight as well as the stats I'm becoming more and more convinced Bonner should not be in the rotation. He makes far too many dumb decisions especially when teams run him off the 3pt line (which they are going to start doing more and more & especially come playoff time). His current 60%+ shooting from 3 pt range is bound to nosedive eventually, and when that happens, it's gonna get real ugly fast. Consider this: Bonner is shooting a measly 13% (3-22) from inside the arc. :vomit:

All Bonner is doing essentially is taking minutes from Splitter & Blair, both of whom will be much more instrumental in winning another championship and will need more minutes to develop their games and chemistry with the team. This is not gonna happen with Matt Bonner garnering 25+ minutes a game.

Not to mention His lack of defense places a burden on Tim Duncan every time the two play together, and this is bound to have consquences later on.

There's just so many negatives here to having Bonner play big minutes I just can't comprehend how Pop rationalizes it all. Even using the popular theory that Pop is just riding Bonner's hot hand doesn't make sense to me, because it still means the big rotation is fucking screwed because nobody is getting enough minutes or even consistent minutes from game to game.

I'd rather see Bonner dropped out of the rotation completely, and if the spurs need to spread the floor from the 4 spot, they have McDyess already, and also Ime Udoka now.

pretty good points - also, you have to expect that Timmy, Tony and Manu will be wearing down more and more as the season goes on and harder to recover in stretches. The Spurs will have to rely on other players to cover for them (as we've needed in the past 3 years) and Bonner isn't going to be that guy. He'll have good games when his 3 is on, but what he gives up in defense (please look at last night's game as a perfect example) and rebounds is too big of a risk to leverage against his occasional high point total.

His ideal situation is to come off the bench for his 3 point shooting alone in small doses and let the other bigs get more experience (Splitter and Blair) whenever possible. I still wish the Spurs would have brought in a young, raw big with length to fill in for some of the minutes where Splitter or Blair are in foul trouble or not playing well. Not being able to protect the paint or rebound really hurts the Spurs when their shots are off (I know that's obvious, but it's never been addressed.)

[TJastal]

pretty good points - also, you have to expect that Timmy, Tony and Manu will be wearing down more and more as the season goes on and harder to recover in stretches. The Spurs will have to rely on other players to cover for them (as we've needed in the past 3 years) and Bonner isn't going to be that guy. He'll have good games when his 3 is on, but what he gives up in defense (please look at last night's game as a perfect example) and rebounds is too big of a risk to leverage against his occasional high point total.

His ideal situation is to come off the bench for his 3 point shooting alone in small doses and let the other bigs get more experience (Splitter and Blair) whenever possible. I still wish the Spurs would have brought in a young, raw big with length to fill in for some of the minutes where Splitter or Blair are in foul trouble or not playing well. Not being able to protect the paint or rebound really hurts the Spurs when their shots are off (I know that's obvious, but it's never been addressed.)

They had a guy named Mahinmi once upon a time..

[EricB]

They had a guy named Mahinmi once upon a time..

Yeah and he went up to Dallas and is tear.... Wait what?

[pjjrfan]

For 3 and a half quarters Bonner was bad. LOve abused him, he kept missing not playing any dfense, getting in the way, but the last part of the game, he was good, he hit that 3 but he also asserted himself under the boards and played much better defense, although, I though McDyess put the clamps on Love late in the game.

[TJastal]

Yeah and he went up to Dallas and is tear.... Wait what?

Yo Poindexter, keep up here. We're not talkin' bout an all star here, we're talkin' bout a guy who can play defense and rebound in a reserve role, which Ian is quite capable.

[bigfan]

The Big Red Boner is doing ok this year IMHO.

[boutons_deux]

After comments here, I watched Red Rocket's feet during lift offs.

Unlike normal people, when he jump shoots, he pulls his toes up so his soles are parallel to the floor, rather than leaving his toes down. So it looks like he's levitating.

[underdawg]

Yeah and he went up to Dallas and is tear.... Wait what?

so who's minutes would you have Ian take away from - Haywood's or Chandler's. Yep, that's a fair comparison to the Spurs situation.

The point Cartman - is that having a player that could play defense and rebound (not an all-star) should get some minutes mixed in with Antonio, Splitter and Blair instead of boner that severly lacks in those departments.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Damn, there's a lot of hate for Bonner here.

[urunobili]

Damn, there's a lot of hate for Bonner here.

Choking in the Playoffs three straight years will do that to you... at least here at Spurstalk...

[boutons_deux]

Matt shoots a lot better at home than on the road, hope that isn't a sign of continued playoff weakness.

[rascal]

I hate the way he tries to grab rebounds, it looks so soft and awkward..that's my main complaint about him so far..

He still think he is playing in the Euro leagues. This is the NBA and he has to get tough. Size alone won't cut it in the NBA like it can in the Euro Leagues.

[jjktkk]

Yo Poindexter, keep up here. We're not talkin' bout an all star here, we're talkin' bout a guy who can play defense and rebound in a reserve role, which Ian is quite capable.


So wheres the proof that Mahimini can do this? If Mahimni could consistantly do this, why isn't he getting any playing time with the Mavs? Some on here say because of Chandler and Haywood are keeping him on the bench, but if Mahimni can rebound and play defense like you say, wouldn't that talent allow him to get in the game, besides garbage time? Thats 2 teams now, where Mahmni isn't receiving playing time and 2 coaching staffs that aren't realizing Mahmni's potential.

[ChumpDumper]

Ian was never that dominant a rebounder, even in the D-League. I don't know where that myth started. He is capable of good defense, but his foul trouble was a constant problem. I'm not talking about what might have been had he been given welfare minutes -- I'm talking about what was actually known about him. It's too bad he went to another good team; he's not good enough to get minutes there either.

[Agloco]

Damn, there's a lot of hate for Bonner here.

And it's gonna continue until he nuts up in the playoffs.

This regular season shit is all fine and dandy, but I'll hold off judgment until he hits some shots against LA or Boston when they matter.

[underdawg]

Ian was never that dominant a rebounder, even in the D-League. I don't know where that myth started. He is capable of good defense, but his foul trouble was a constant problem. I'm not talking about what might have been had he been given welfare minutes -- I'm talking about what was actually known about him. It's too bad he went to another good team; he's not good enough to get minutes there either.

I don't think he was a dominant shot blocker either - but he would be adequate given the weakness the Spurs have when Timmy's having a bad game or Antonio's on the bench. Splitter and Blair might be able to help, but not always and both are far from consistent.

Look - bang on Ian all you want, but he had some decent moments in non-garbage minutes - I can think of the Houston game last year as an example and against the mavs in the playoffs as another.

Ian's no longer here and I wish him well as he seemed like a good kid, but we still need length for our interior defense when Timmy and Antonio are on the bench and boner does not fit that role. Boner should be used as Kerr was in times of 3 pt shot need and when sacrificing defense is affordable.

[Cessation]

Why did blair, the starter, only play 6 minutes? Does this mean ginger > blair?

[jjktkk]

Why did blair, the starter, only play 6 minutes? Does this mean ginger > blair?

Right now, I'd have to say yes.

[jjktkk]

I don't think he was a dominant shot blocker either - but he would be adequate given the weakness the Spurs have when Timmy's having a bad game or Antonio's on the bench. Splitter and Blair might be able to help, but not always and both are far from consistent.

Look - bang on Ian all you want, but he had some decent moments in non-garbage minutes - I can think of the Houston game last year as an example and against the mavs in the playoffs as another.

Ian's no longer here and I wish him well as he seemed like a good kid, but we still need length for our interior defense when Timmy and Antonio are on the bench and boner does not fit that role. Boner should be used as Kerr was in times of 3 pt shot need and when sacrificing defense is affordable.

Ian does seem like a good kid, I hope he eventually becomes a legit NBA player. But for various reasons, injuries, bad luck, etc..., he has yet to find his niche. Who knows if he ever will put it together.

[Manudona]

And it's gonna continue until he nuts up in the playoffs.

This regular season shit is all fine and dandy, but I'll hold off judgment until he hits some shots against LA or Boston when they matter.

So why not holding judgment on Tiago, or O'Neal... they've shown absolutely nothing in the playoffs, as they never played, so they might be even worst chokers than Bonner for all we know.

I know you are going to say that Bonner already choked in the playoffs, but if the past is always a determinant for the future, well, do I need to remind you of Parker's playoffs runs until circa 2006?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think he was a dominant shot blocker either - but he would be adequate given the weakness the Spurs have when Timmy's having a bad game or Antonio's on the bench. Splitter and Blair might be able to help, but not always and both are far from consistent.Both are better than Ian.

Splitter especially is going to provide defense. People are whining about PT but they ignore all the basketball he has played in the past year and his history of little injuries that have kept him out of games, which is strange since he missed training camp with just such an injury.

I like Ian as much as anyone. He's just needs to develop and Dallas isn't the place where it's going to happen.

[MmP]

If he's awful all game long but keeps putting in the last shot Im in for him playing in crunch time.

[chasky]

Live by the Bonner, die by the Bonner

I don't thinks so, Matt played a bad game and we won.

[Penya]

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[Cessation]

last 2 games averages
against twolves and orlando

Blair
8 min
3 pts
1.5 rbs
40% fgs
1.5 turnovers
2 fouls


Pussy Ginger
31 min
11 pts
6 rbs
6-10 3pt fgs
0 turnovers
2 fouls

dam booner and splitter (22min 6pts 4rbs vs wolves) stealing all of blairs minutes, hows that happening?

[BlairForceDejuan]

Blair has lost his mojo :(

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

And once again, we hate Bonner. Sucks for Bonner. The guy made 2 3 pointers out of......a lot of missed attempts. I'll just say that. I'd prefer if they brought in Blair or Tiago instead. Too bad for Bonner, but he just doesn't deserve those minutes.

[ElNono]

Again as I've said in many other threads.

With the way the game went, I think its crazy to take ANYTHING of worth out of this game and analysis of the roster....

The only conclusion you can make is that there are much, much worse players than Bonner out there, like Michael Beasley.

[Cessation]

I think bonner is not that bad if you consider he stretches the defence, making it easier for duncan, in the post, and parker/ginobli driving, and also shoots the three well, most of the time. He provides points directly and indirectly.

Sure his defence sucks real bad at times, but overall the positives outweigh the negatives. Blair and splitter clog the paint for our offence. Sometimes you cant stop great offence on the opposing team, so spurs gotta match that.

I still think pop overplays him at times, but the 12 game win streak speaks for itself, cant argue with the results, pop must be doing something right. His rebounding is a little better latelly, and defensivelly hes been getting help, so the other guys on the floor cover up his weaknesses somewhat.

[Vito Corleone]

I didn't take the time to read this whole thread, but really right now I'm not too bad with how Bonner is playing. He is getting 22 min per game but averaging close to 9 pts and 4 rebounds per game. That's pretty productive for a guy who is our 5th big man in the rotation. He and Splitter are two guys that give us different stuff and until Tiago gets a little more experience Bonner isn't really hurting us and I'm seeing some good stuff from him out there right now.

[awktalk]

Do we really have to put up with the "Bonner will choke in the playoffs" meme all season? It is such an easy and indefensible retort. There is no disproving it until the playoffs. It's lazy. Just put it aside for awhile. Shooters go through hot and cold streaks.

If we can catch a Bonner hot streak against LA, we may have a 5th ring. Then again, he might tear an achilles next game and be gone forever. Hearing for the next 6 months that "Bonner is a playoff choker" is pointless.

[mingus]

Bonner has played very well. with as shitty as Blair has been playing that is a really good thing. Blair at some point is going to have to step it up and break out of his sophomore slump because Dice is playing too much, too hard, too early. the Spurs need to keep going with Blair.