A&M to Cotton bowl

[DesignatedT]

Official. :tu WHOOP! Either LSU or Alabama.... bring it son.

http://twitter.com/ATTCottonBowl



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[LoneStarState'sPride]

Whoooooop!!!!!

[Fpoonsie]

Neat.

Er...I mean...Whoop.

[Blake]

Arkansas might slide in there

[DesignatedT]

Capital 1 bowl has first choice so they will more than likely choose Alabama and Cotton won't pass up on LSU.

[johngateswhiteley]

thats right! and a big fuck off to oklahoma state and whomever loses in the big 12 title game. (music)....thats the sound of justice.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

cool

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Let's just hope the pigfucking aggies can actually put it to an SEC team. If memory serves both them and Texas Tech have a history of shitting the bed when they go to a STADIUM IN TEXAS to play an SEC team.

[Blake]

thats right! and a big fuck off to oklahoma state and whomever loses in the big 12 title game. (music)....thats the sound of justice.

big deal.

If you aren't in the title game then you are in a meaningless bowl game to anyone outside of your team.

[Blake]

Let's just hope the pigfucking aggies can actually put it to an SEC team. If memory serves both them and Texas Tech have a history of shitting the bed when they go to a STADIUM IN TEXAS to play an SEC team.

if memory serves, UT has a history of shitting the bed against ucla IN TEXAS.

......just thought I'd throw that out there.

[johngateswhiteley]

big deal.

If you aren't in the title game then you are in a meaningless bowl game to anyone outside of your team.

i'm afraid you just don't get it. 5-7 t.u. was desperately trying to qualify for a bowl, for a good reason.

...pure ignorance on your part.

[Blake]

i'm afraid you just don't get it. 5-7 t.u. was desperately trying to qualify for a bowl, for a good reason.

...pure ignorance on your part.

pure I don't know what the fuck your point is on my part.

[johngateswhiteley]

one thing of note...according to the NCAA, A&M had the toughest schedule of anyone in Division 1 football this year. wow.

[BUMP]

i'm afraid you just don't get it. 5-7 t.u. was desperately trying to qualify for a bowl, for a good reason.

...pure ignorance on your part.

You're proving his point. Bowl games mean a lot to a specific school and their fanbase but outside of that, nobody really cares. Does the casual fan care whether UT goes to the california almond bowl or the gogreenpleaserecycle.com bowl? No. It's ultimately meaningless after the next week. Does anybody remember when Texas Tech outgunned this year's #8 Mich St in the Alamo Bowl last season?

Problem is some teams just don't care while others treat it like the superbowl.

[johngateswhiteley]

You're proving his point. Bowl games mean a lot to a specific school and their fanbase but outside of that, nobody really cares. Does the casual fan care whether UT goes to the california almond bowl or the gogreenpleaserecycle.com bowl? No. It's ultimately meaningless after the next week. Does anybody remember when Texas Tech outgunned this year's #8 Mich St in the Alamo Bowl last season?

Problem is some teams just don't care while others treat it like the superbowl.

incorrect.

1) national perception (especially in the current ranking system)
2) exposure
3) recruiting

then of course, there is the team aspect you mention,

1) springboard into next year/momentum
2) more practices/time with the players
3) higher confidence


...fans that protest bowls outside the title game are meaningless, typically don't have a team in a bowl. Or, at the most, a disappointing one.

[Blake]

incorrect.

1) national perception (especially in the current ranking system)
2) exposure
3) recruiting

how do you think that's gone for Tech, being in a bowl game every year for the last 10+ years?


then of course, there is the team aspect you mention,

1) springboard into next year/momentum

yes, UT carried that title game momentum right on into 2010.


...fans that protest bowls outside the title game are meaningless, typically don't have a team in a bowl. Or, at the most, a disappointing one.

naw, aside from the financial aspect of it, even BCS bowl games are meaningless unless you are in the title game.

[BUMP]

1) springboard into next year/momentum
2) more practices/time with the players
3) higher confidence


Hardly ever the case, especially when you lose so many players to the draft/graduate. If Stanford were to win a BCS bowl, I'm sure that momentum will only carry so far until they lose Andrew Luck to the draft.

I'm not trying to hate on A&M, since they had a terrific year (I'll be rooting for them in the Cotton Bowl), but in the grand scheme of things there's not gonna be any advantage of them playing in the Cotton Bowl over Oklahoma State, who will likely play in the Holiday Bowl.

[rjv]

for any team 13 additional practices and an extra game is a good thing especially if you have a young team that is returning many starters. that can be a springboard to the next season (such as the longhorns win against michigan in the rose bowl). for a team that is losing key players such as last years longhorns then the effect is not all that significant.

a bowl can also be used for recruiting as well. kids like to be on teams that get national exposure.

i'm sure mack brown would love to have the additional 13 practices and one additional game right about now.

[BUMP]

for any team 13 additional practices and an extra game is a good thing especially if you have a young team that is returning many starters. that can be a springboard to the next season (such as the longhorns win against michigan in the rose bowl). for a team that is losing key players such as last years longhorns then the effect is not all that significant.

a bowl can also be used for recruiting as well. kids like to be on teams that get national exposure.

i'm sure mack brown would love to have the additional 13 practices and one additional game right about now.

Of course going to a bowl game is better than not going to one, that's pretty obvious.

Ultimately though, if you have two similar programs (such as A&M and Oklahoma State), it doesn't really matter which one each respective school goes to in the long run. History backs that up

[Doug Collins]

Of course going to a bowl game is better than not going to one, that's pretty obvious.

Ultimately though, if you have two similar programs (such as A&M and Oklahoma State), it doesn't really matter which one each respective school goes to in the long run. History backs that up

It matters financially in the short run: bigger payouts, builds excitement amongst donors, helps sell tickets; but yes, in the long run, nobody really cares. I barely remember that ass kicking we got in 2005 at the cotton bowl.

I'm excited but I would've been equally happy with an alamo bowl bid, cheaper tickets, closer to home, better opportunity for a win.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

It matters financially in the short run: bigger payouts, builds excitement amongst donors, helps sell tickets; but yes, in the long run, nobody really cares. I barely remember that ass kicking we got in 2005 at the cotton bowl.

I'm excited but I would've been equally happy with an alamo bowl bid, cheaper tickets, closer to home, better opportunity for a win.

I don't want to have the argument of whether or not lower bowls mean anything we have it every fucking bowl season. All i am saying is that i hope those country fed aggies can beat their sec competition in this bowl. My major worry is that they and tech have a history of playing sec schools in our own backyard and making the sec look like the greatest show on turf. Its sad and an embarrassment. I hope they reverse this trend.

[BUMP]

I don't want to have the argument of whether or not lower bowls mean anything we have it every fucking bowl season. All i am saying is that i hope those country fed aggies can beat their sec competition in this bowl. My major worry is that they and tech have a history of playing sec schools in our own backyard and making the sec look like the greatest show on turf. Its sad and an embarrassment. I hope they reverse this trend.

Like UT doesn't shit the bed against SEC competition?

lol Alabama

[RedRaider]

Geaux Tigers!

[DesignatedT]

Ummm... going to a better bowl reflects on the type of season you had so of course it matters. Also the certain exposure of these bowls definitely helps recruiting.

Going to the Cotton bowl is definitely better than going to the Independence bowl and I hope you aren't disagreeing with that. On another note, the Cotton bowl is the last game before the BCS bowls and the only game on Friday January 7th which means everyone will be watching. A strong showing is needed.

[Blake]

I'm excited but I would've been equally happy with an alamo bowl bid, cheaper tickets, closer to home, better opportunity for a win.

I would prefer Alamo Bowl over any other non-BCS bowl so I could just drive down the road to see them play.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Like UT doesn't shit the bed against SEC competition?

lol Alabama
Ut beat louisiana state in the cotton bowl. Row williams looked like the second coming of randy moss. The alabama game was played in california. Your a tech guy so i get why you can't understand this. Its not my fault aggie and tech choke like sissies when they play sec teams in texas. Lets just hope the trend changes and the texas teams win this year.

[Blake]

Ummm... going to a better bowl reflects on the type of season you had so of course it matters. Also the certain exposure of these bowls definitely helps recruiting.

Going to the Cotton bowl is definitely better than going to the Independence bowl and I hope you aren't disagreeing with that. On another note, the Cotton bowl is the last game before the BCS bowls and the only game on Friday January 7th which means everyone will be watching. A strong showing is needed.

who will be watching a meaningless bowl game on a Friday night after the holdays are over? I guess I will if I'm at home at 7or 8pm that night.

some have projected Tech to be in the Ticketcity bowl in Dallas, which is played Jan 1st at noon on ESPNU.

I'll be curious about the difference of TV ratings of the two games.

[johngateswhiteley]

who will be watching a meaningless bowl game on a Friday night after the holdays are over? I guess I will if I'm at home at 7or 8pm that night.

some have projected Tech to be in the Ticketcity bowl in Dallas, which is played Jan 1st at noon on ESPNU.

I'll be curious about the difference of TV ratings of the two games.

ha...there will be a difference. but, thats only one of many issues.

[johngateswhiteley]

how do you think that's gone for Tech, being in a bowl game every year for the last 10+ years?



yes, UT carried that title game momentum right on into 2010.



naw, aside from the financial aspect of it, even BCS bowl games are meaningless unless you are in the title game.


1) tekk is a lower tier program. they don't have the support, resources or athletes that A&M does...nor the history

*tekk may have good years here and there, but by and large, they will never break through

2) t.u. lost some key players, that does not always happen. further, how many teams fall apart like that? one season does not make a trend, neither do other aberrations

3) spoken like a true fan of a team with no future

[MajorMike]

If you think bowls below the BCS are about anything less than $ you are severly kidding yourself.

atm got picked because:

1) uo, Neb, Mizzou and OSU are all 'theoretically' alive for a BCS bowl and therefore would not accept any other bid
2) atm allows the Cotton to start hyping it now
3) atm was hot at the end
4) atm will bring a ton of koodaid cult members even if they will just burn bonfires in the surrounding fields
5) OSU was in it last year, the B12G loser will have been there less than a month ago and Mizzou travels like crap

atm was a safe pick; a good pick for the bowl itself. It means nothing more than economics. Rarely does the B12G loser go the Cotton, because the Cotton usually makes their pick early. OSU got picked over Neb last year, and over UT, Kstate and Neb in 2003. Last time atm went they were 7-4 and were chosen over CU and ISU with same records and CU was north champ. Its all about the benjamins.


Incidently, I wouldn'y be touting your superior resources over ttek too much with a short term 16 million dollar high interest loan taken out just to keep your AD solvent.

[Sisk]

If you think bowls below the BCS are about anything less than $ you are severly kidding yourself.

atm got picked because:

1) uo, Neb, Mizzou and OSU are all 'theoretically' alive for a BCS bowl and therefore would not accept any other bid
2) atm allows the Cotton to start hyping it now
3) atm was hot at the end
4) atm will bring a ton of koodaid cult members even if they will just burn bonfires in the surrounding fields
5) OSU was in it last year, the B12G loser will have been there less than a month ago and Mizzou travels like crap

atm was a safe pick; a good pick for the bowl itself. It means nothing more than economics. Rarely does the B12G loser go the Cotton, because the Cotton usually makes their pick early. OSU got picked over Neb last year, and over UT, Kstate and Neb in 2003. Last time atm went they were 7-4 and were chosen over CU and ISU with same records and CU was north champ. Its all about the benjamins.


Incidently, I wouldn'y be touting your superior resources over ttek too much with a short term 16 million dollar high interest loan taken out just to keep your AD solvent.

You should just be happy that JJ played against yall and not Tannehill tbh imho

[johngateswhiteley]

If you think bowls below the BCS are about anything less than $ you are severly kidding yourself.

atm got picked because:

1) uo, Neb, Mizzou and OSU are all 'theoretically' alive for a BCS bowl and therefore would not accept any other bid
2) atm allows the Cotton to start hyping it now
3) atm was hot at the end
4) atm will bring a ton of koodaid cult members even if they will just burn bonfires in the surrounding fields
5) OSU was in it last year, the B12G loser will have been there less than a month ago and Mizzou travels like crap

atm was a safe pick; a good pick for the bowl itself. It means nothing more than economics. Rarely does the B12G loser go the Cotton, because the Cotton usually makes their pick early. OSU got picked over Neb last year, and over UT, Kstate and Neb in 2003. Last time atm went they were 7-4 and were chosen over CU and ISU with same records and CU was north champ. Its all about the benjamins.


Incidently, I wouldn'y be touting your superior resources over ttek too much with a short term 16 million dollar high interest loan taken out just to keep your AD solvent.


i think you're kidding yourself. i stand by my previous points...and while A&M is certainly worth more ($) to the cotton bowl, it was the right pick, nonetheless

further,

1) A&M is better than mizzou and osu, and both are going to a lower bowl/ A&M was their first pick and, incidentally, the hottest and best team in the big 12
2) A&M does have great support
3) osu got bitched by ol' miss last year, and again, A&M is better
4) i don't recall '03 other than t.u. owned you guys and, again, you lost to ol' miss in the cotton bowl (t.u. must have turned them down, they were 7-1 in conference)

incidentally, i will tout A&Ms resources. where did they get the loan from? Anyway, my point is common knowledge...you cynical little bitch.

[Blake]

1) tekk is a lower tier program. they don't have the support, resources or athletes that A&M does...nor the history

*tekk may have good years here and there, but by and large, they will never break through

that's not what you alluded to.

you stated that getting to a bowl game helps in all those facets.

move the goalposts a little more and discuss how A&M's 1939 championship has helped recruiting in 2010.


2) t.u. lost some key players, that does not always happen. further, how many teams fall apart like that? one season does not make a trend, neither do other aberrations

I've seen it go both ways.

I'm betting you have no direct source regarding "trends" other than your ass.


3) spoken like a true fan of a team with no future

na, it's the truth whether Tech will ever make it to a title game or not.


and just fyi:


2011 Rivals Recruiting Team Rankings

#18 Texas Tech
#34 Texas A&M

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all

you're an idiot.

[MajorMike]

Prove atm is better than Mizzou and OSU; oh, wait, you can't because it has already been proven otherwise.

lol, cynical little bitch. Kettle.

[DesignatedT]

It's okay cowboy, you will have fun in the Holiday bowl vs...Washington? :lmao.
Fuckin choke job. What is that 8 or 9 in a row you've lost to OU?

[Blake]

1) A&M is better than mizzou

oops no.




Associated Press
COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- Blaine Gabbert moved Missouri's offense with ease and the Tigers' defense left Jerrod Johnson and Texas A&M's high-powered offense stunned.

It was the perfect combination to keep No. 21 Missouri undefeated with a 30-9 win over the struggling Aggies on Saturday.



you're an idiot.

[DesignatedT]

you're an idiot.

Recruiting rankings for the past decade.

2010
A&M- 17
tekk- 41

2009
A&M- 22
tekk- 34

2008
A&M- 16
tekk- 45

2007
A&M- 43
tekk- not in top 50

2006
A&M- 25
tekk- 26

2005
A&M- 8
tekk- 37

2004
A&M- 13
tekk- 33

2003
A&M- 10
tekk- 44

2002
A&M- 23
tekk- not in top 50

These classes are also through some of the worst times in Aggie football and some of the best times in Raider football. Regarding this year... it's a long way until signing day.

[Blake]

Recruiting rankings for the past decade.

2010
A&M- 17
tekk- 41

2009
A&M- 22
tekk- 34

2008
A&M- 16
tekk- 45

2007
A&M- 43
tekk- not in top 50

2006
A&M- 25
tekk- 26

2005
A&M- 8
tekk- 37

2004
A&M- 13
tekk- 33

2003
A&M- 10
tekk- 44

2002
A&M- 23
tekk- not in top 50

These classes are also through some of the worst times in Aggie football and some of the best times in Raider football. Regarding this year... it's a long way until signing day.

that wasn't the point of me posting it, but thanks for the lol.

[Blake]

I'm starting to like where this thread is going.

:tu

[DesignatedT]

I'm starting to like where this thread is going.

:tu

Oh alright.

btw, that made you laugh? It would make me want to cry tbh.

[Blake]

Oh alright.

btw, that made you laugh? It would make me want to cry tbh.

2002 Tech win
2003 Tech win
2004 A&M win
2005 Tech win
2006 Tech win
2007 Tech win
2008 Tech win
2009 A&M win
2010 A&M win
2011 Tech better recruiting class

:cry :cry :cry

[MajorMike]

It's okay cowboy, you will have fun in the Holiday bowl vs...Washington? :lmao.
Fuckin choke job. What is that 8 or 9 in a row you've lost to OU?

Funny how the Holiday would have looked amazing to you last year. And I hear Alamo, anyway.

I think its 8 in a row.

What is that, 3 in a row you've lost to OSU? And after this year you want to talk about your choke job?

[Blake]

What is that, 3 in a row you've lost to OSU? And after this year you want to talk about your choke job?

Choke jobs like that with the support, resources, athletes, history and recruiting classes that A&M has had would make me want to cry tbh.

[DesignatedT]

2002 tech win
2003 tech win
2004 a&m win
2005 tech win
2006 tech win
2007 tech win
2008 tech win
2009 a&m win
2010 a&m win
2011 tech better recruiting class

:cry :cry :cry

36-32-1

[Blake]

36-32-1

Only having 4 more wins than a team that has been so clearly dominated in recruiting over the years would make me want to cry tbh.

[DesignatedT]

And after this year you want to talk about your choke job?

Huh? This year were undefeated since the quarterback change and we are the only team ever to beat OU, tu and Nebraska in the same season..

[DesignatedT]

Only having 4 more wins than a team that has been so clearly dominated in recruiting over the years would make me want to cry tbh.

Don't worry, That # should go up significantly in the coming years tbh. Your time was declared over once Mike Leach was let go.

:lmao tuberville

[Blake]

Don't worry, That # should go up significantly in the coming years tbh. Your time was declared over once Mike Leach was let go.

:lmao tuberville

Leach was still in Lubbock when A&M came in and laid down that whooping in 2009.

If Tech is bringing in a better recruiting class thanks to Tubs, what's the logic that the # should go up significantly in the the coming years?

:lmao :lmao Sherman

[DesignatedT]

If Tech is bringing in a better recruiting class thanks to Tubs, what's the logic that the # should go up significantly in the the coming years?



The answer is right in front of you... Coach Fran.

Building a team goes a lot further than having high stars in your recruiting class..

[Blake]

The answer is right in front of you... Coach Fran.

so now the new answer is a still unproven Mike Sherman.


Building a team goes a lot further than having high stars in your recruiting class..

lol you bragging about high stars just a few posts ago.

[DesignatedT]

so now the new answer is a still unproven Mike Sherman.


lol you bragging about high stars just a few posts ago.


9-3 Cotton Bowl, Big 12 co champs. Only team ever to beat tu, OU and Nebraska in the same season. If he's still unproven than he's definitely on the right track.

Nah, just saw you hyping up your recruiting class this season. Tubbs is about to take that program into the dirt, and wont last but 3 years. You guys are about to be driven straight into years of mediocrity, but that's alright, I've been there.

[johngateswhiteley]

that's not what you alluded to.

you stated that getting to a bowl game helps in all those facets.

move the goalposts a little more and discuss how A&M's 1939 championship has helped recruiting in 2010.



I've seen it go both ways.

I'm betting you have no direct source regarding "trends" other than your ass.



na, it's the truth whether Tech will ever make it to a title game or not.


and just fyi:



you're an idiot.


i see you changed that title from 1950 to 1939, good work.

A&M has recruited well for quite some time, but recruiting is only part of winning and, unfortunately, we shot ourselves in the foot when it came to other areas.

If you watched college football for any real length of time, you'll notice most teams that made a quality bowl the year before tend to carry over that success. there are some that do not, and there are even times where year to year you will have some variation. but its all part of the bigger picture, like tracking companies...look at 3-5 year stretches and beyond. A&M has not put that together, but this is a heck of start especially with some real signature wins and a cotton bowl to boot.

* otherwise, why even play the sport? why not just let the so called best teams play for the title each year and everyone else stay home? because you have to build programs. each win, each bowl, etc are all steps along the way to becoming a successful program. how did florida state get there? miami? virginia tech? etc. its not rocket science, in fact, its obvious. if you and captain mike cannot see that, i'm not sure what to tell you.

of course, some schools like tekk and osu have built in disadvantages...thats life. they can have good years, but by and large they will not be able to overcome the likes of ou and t.u, and even A&M. A&M is also at a disadvantage compared to ou and t.u., but less so and more likely to break through now and again. its great that osu has beat A&M 3 times in a row, but the overall series is lopsided. further, tekk has enjoyed quite a bit of success over A&M, but I think you'll see that tide turn if it hasn't already. A&M was down for a looong time.

[Blake]

9-3 Cotton Bowl, Big 12 co champs. Only team ever to beat tu, OU and Nebraska in the same season. If he's still unproven than he's definitely on the right track.

Good team, right track, co-champs in a down year for the Big 12.

I wouldn't be bragging about beating a non-bowl team that lost to Baylor at home.


Nah, just saw you hyping up your recruiting class this season. Tubbs is about to take that program into the dirt, and wont last but 3 years. You guys are about to be driven straight into years of mediocrity, but that's alright, I've been there.

you're either trolling or you're an idiot.

if you're trolling, you're an idiot in a different way.

well done. :tu

[johngateswhiteley]

Prove atm is better than Mizzou and OSU; oh, wait, you can't because it has already been proven otherwise.

lol, cynical little bitch. Kettle.

i'm nothing close to cynical.

and you can laugh all you want, but fact is teams can progress through a season...some have even been known to get much better. clearly, that is what has happened with A&M. i doubt you'll admit it, but i know you've seen it.

[DesignatedT]

:lmao

Just glad leach is gone.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Two bottom lines to this thread so far:

1.) A&M is MUCH better now than when they played oSu--the Cowboys absolutely won that game because JJ was a turnover machine. Do we win with Tannehill? Idk, but given that we dominated OU with RT at the helm late in the season, the same OU that walked into Stillwater and tore out the heart of a Cowboy team that had everything to play for, you gotta like A&M.

2.) Recruiting class smack is always, always WEAK. That goes for Aggies, too.

My $.02

[RedRaider]

People (aggy) who go out of their way just to spell Texas Tech (tceh, tekk etc) incorrectly are obviously threatened by Texas Tech's football program.

Texas A&M is pounding their chests because they strike GOLD one year and go 9-3... haha. Have fun getting pounded by a far superior LSU/Alabama team. Should be hilarious to watch.

[RedRaider]

Two bottom lines to this thread so far:

1.) A&M is MUCH better now than when they played oSu--the Cowboys absolutely won that game because JJ was a turnover machine. Do we win with Tannehill? Idk, but given that we dominated OU with RT at the helm late in the season, the same OU that walked into Stillwater and tore out the heart of a Cowboy team that had everything to play for, you gotta like A&M.

2.) Recruiting class smack is always, always WEAK. That goes for Aggies, too.

My $.02

Before 2009, A&M used recruiting class smack every single year for like 11 years straight.

[leemajors]

9-3 Cotton Bowl, Big 12 co champs. Only team ever to beat tu, OU and Nebraska in the same season. If he's still unproven than he's definitely on the right track.

Nah, just saw you hyping up your recruiting class this season. Tubbs is about to take that program into the dirt, and wont last but 3 years. You guys are about to be driven straight into years of mediocrity, but that's alright, I've been there.

Big 12 co-champs? I thought the championship game was this weekend.

[DesignatedT]

Not trying to use recruiting smack. As an Aggie, I clearly understand that a good recruiting class doesn't necessarily turn into W's. Thing about Shermans recruiting classes are that he is only recruiting high character kids who want to be an Aggie on and off the field. Go look back at coach frans top 10 recruiting classes and you will see 4 star recruits that never even played a down because they couldn't hack it in the classroom or would get kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons.

[Fpoonsie]

People (aggy) who go out of their way just to spell Texas Tech (tceh, tekk etc) incorrectly are obviously threatened by Texas Tech's football program.

How wonderfully ironic. You just HAFTA be somebody's troll...

[Sisk]

People (aggy) who go out of their way just to spell Texas Tech (tceh, tekk etc) incorrectly are obviously threatened by Texas Tech's football program.

Uhhhh....

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Before 2009, A&M used recruiting class smack every single year for like 11 years straight.

Duh, which is why I included the phrase "That goes for Aggies, too." I don't care whether you're an Aggie or not.

[Brutalis]

Arkansas might slide in there

Nope. Nutt isn't our coach anymore remember?

[Brutalis]

Aggies want LSU, cause Bama will roll you guys. No offense.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Aggies want LSU, cause Bama will roll you guys. No offense.

Give me either one--not gonna get "rolled" by anyone with our D playing up to their potential and RT keeping the offense out of its own way.

[The Reckoning]

Give me either one--not gonna get "rolled" by anyone with our D playing up to their potential and RT keeping the offense out of its own way.


:lol

thats what i thought of him too. doesn't make spectacular plays or disasterous plays either. he's just there to eat up game clock and give the defense time to rest.

[Brutalis]

LSU fans telling me that LSU accepted the invite from the Cotton Bowl this morning.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

:lol

thats what i thought of him too. doesn't make spectacular plays or disasterous plays either. he's just there to eat up game clock and give the defense time to rest.

Bing-effing-go! I've been trying (to little avail, in some cases) to get my fellow Aggie faithful to wake up and realize that Tannehill isn't some world-beating savior. Not to take anything away from him at all--he's a great kid and busts his ass every play he's on the field, whether at receiver or at QB. But at best he's an average QB, and worst he's a game manager. There's no mistaking who's the better athlete--that's Jerrod Johnson, hands down. However, Jerrod's decline in productivity and proclivity for turnovers, combined with Tannehill's relative consistency in remaining steady on offense (as opposed to Jerrod's tendency to follow up a spectacular play with a demoralizing turnover or sack), combined to make Tannehill the logical option for the second half of the season.

Prime example of Tannehill's value to this Aggie team is highlighted in juxtaposing the Mizzou and texas games. In the Mizzou game, the final score (30-9) was hardly indicative of the game the defense had. Jerrod's inconsistencies were consistent in putting the defense in terrible positions throughout the game, and when time came late in the 3rd for the D to get crucial stops, they were already gassed from having been on the field too long due to Johnson's leading disastrously abbreviated possessions.

In contrast RT's competent handling of the offense in the texas game is hardly reflected in the final score. He wasn't required to go on a game-winning drive (heck, we couldn't even really muster enough offense to take advantage of multiple opportunities to put the game on ice). However, his drives resulted in multiple first downs (giving the Wrecking Crew time to rest) and more importantly, no turnovers (putting the D in optimal position).

Long story short, I agree with The Reckoning :lol

[Blake]

Give me either one--not gonna get "rolled" by anyone with our D playing up to their potential and RT keeping the offense out of its own way.

yes, the Aggies would get rolled by Bama.

Also, although RT has been better than Jerrod and probably beat Tech by himself, the Aggies recent success can be attributed more to the change at RB than the change at QB.

[rjv]

yes, the Aggies would get rolled by Bama.

Also, although RT has been better than Jerrod and probably beat Tech by himself, the Aggies recent success can be attributed more to the change at RB than the change at QB.

not really. they did not change RB at all. they got short handed when michael got hurt and so gray just got more carries. michael was actually the leading rusher at the time and more of the in between tackle runner.

what no one else is mentioning is that a&m had to start 2 freshmen at tackle (the most important postion at the o-line). in the the early part of the season they were just too inexperienced and committed penalties and made poor mistakes that led to sacks. in the second half of the season both holding penalties and sacks went way down. they will both be all big XII linemen next year.

on the defensive end they adjusted to the 3-4 scheme that coach dereuyter was implementing and von miller started getting sacks again (after none in his first 4 games).

[DesignatedT]

yes, the Aggies would get rolled by Bama.

Also, although RT has been better than Jerrod and probably beat Tech by himself, the Aggies recent success can be attributed more to the change at RB than the change at QB.

:lmao wrong.

[Blake]

Gray:

OkSt: 5 carries, loss

Ark: 5 carries, loss

Mizzou: 1 carry, loss

Kansas 13 carries 100+ yds, win

Tech: 16 carries, 100+ yds win

OU: 21 carries, 100+ yds, win

Baylor: 28 carries, 100+ yards, win

Neb: 26 carries, 200 total yards, win

UT: 27 carries, 200+ yards, win


On season:

Michael: 5.0 yards per carry
Gray: 5.7 yards per carry


:lmao wrong.

:lmao :lmao having to have a Tech fan spell out your team for you

[Blake]

not really. they did not change RB at all. they got short handed when michael got hurt and so gray just got more carries. michael was actually the leading rusher at the time and more of the in between tackle runner.


right, they changed RBs due to Mchael being hurt.

and Gray's big play ability has been a difference maker, notably against UT.

[Doug Collins]

Gray:

OkSt: 5 carries, loss

Ark: 5 carries, loss

Mizzou: 1 carry, loss

Kansas 13 carries 100+ yds, win

Tech: 16 carries, 100+ yds win

OU: 21 carries, 100+ yds, win

Baylor: 28 carries, 100+ yards, win

Neb: 26 carries, 200 total yards, win

UT: 27 carries, 200+ yards, win


On season:

Michael: 5.0 yards per carry
Gray: 5.7 yards per carry



:lmao :lmao having to have a Tech fan spell out your team for you

Jerrod Johnson not throwing 5 interceptions a game has also been pretty helpful in turning the season around (he had like 10 turnovers in those 3 losses).

Gray has been essential to taking pressure of Tannehill, but our running game was still strong when he was splitting time with Michael. Gray's impact has been important, but the lack of dumbass turnovers is the bigger reason we won 6 straight.

[Thompson]

To be fair, Gray's 200+ yards against Texas are inflating his average. Michael had to run against the relative powerhouses Louisiana Tech and Stephen F. Austin.

[Blake]

Jerrod Johnson not throwing 5 interceptions a game has also been pretty helpful in turning the season around (he had like 10 turnovers in those 3 losses).

in the Okie State game, definitely all on Jerrod, imo.


Gray has been essential to taking pressure of Tannehill, but our running game was still strong when he was splitting time with Michael.

against FIU, LA Tech and SFA? yeah.


Gray's impact has been important, but the lack of dumbass turnovers is the bigger reason we won 6 straight.

in the Arkie game, Fuller fumbled, Michael fumbled and Jerrod fumbled. JJ's one INT was a desperation at the, end iirc.....so basically 2 turnovers.

in the Mizzou game, JJ threw for 322 1 TD and no turnovers. Michael ran 14 for a mediocre 52.


Gray is unquestionably A&M's MVP, imo.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

A&M's MVP would have to be the return of the Wrecking Crew.

[DesignatedT]

:lmao :lmao having to have a Tech fan spell out your team for you

:lmao you sure do know a lot about our team but you still fail.

No doubt Gray has been a key component in our resurgence this season but that isn't what put our team "over the top". You can compare stats all day but Michael is just as good if not a better runner than Gray and our running game has been strong all season long. 1) Tannehill has had a huge impact on this team with his smart play and accuracy with the ball that Jerrod did not have and the difference in turnovers shows that. Jerrod was flat out terrible this year and as much as it pains me to say that, he really was. Tannehill deserves as much credit as anyone for putting this team over the top. 2) The biggest part of our turnaround is the overall improvement of our offensive line who have made HUGE strides as the year has progressed. We have 2 true freshman that start on our O-line along with 2 freshman tight ends who play as well. This has been the key part to our offensive improvement (which has showed in Gray's stats)..... What I am trying to say here is that if Gray and Michael had switched places and Gray was the one who got hurt... Michael would be averaging the same amount of yards that Gray is now, that is how good both of these backs are... and they are both coming back next season. (Gray is the better receiving back).

Obviously our defense deserves more credit than anyone but these things have been the main components for our offensive success from the beginning of the year to now.

So please, stop acting like you know anything about Aggie football because you look at the box score and go get ready for the ticketcity bowl.

[DesignatedT]

in the Okie State game, definitely all on Jerrod, imo.



against FIU, LA Tech and SFA? yeah.



in the Arkie game, Fuller fumbled, Michael fumbled and Jerrod fumbled. JJ's one INT was a desperation at the, end iirc.....so basically 2 turnovers.

in the Mizzou game, JJ threw for 322 1 TD and no turnovers. Michael ran 14 for a mediocre 52.


Gray is unquestionably A&M's MVP, imo.

JJ was 15/40 throwing in the Arkansas game (37%). Terrible.

Wrong. By far our Defense and improved O-line have been our best units this season. Gray is a fantastic back but no back can do it without an offensive line.

[DesignatedT]

To be fair, Gray's 200+ yards against Texas are inflating his average. Michael had to run against the relative powerhouses Louisiana Tech and Stephen F. Austin.

Not sure where your going with this but you should know the huge difference in our offensive line against SFA and then against Texas. The improvement is simply indescribable. Night and Day.

[Blake]

A&M's MVP would have to be the return of the Wrecking Crew.

when did they return?

[Thompson]

Not sure where your going with this but you should know the huge difference in our offensive line against SFA and then against Texas. The improvement is simply indescribable. Night and Day.

I was joking that compared to Texas, SFA and Louisiana Tech are powerhouses. I should have used an emoticon I guess, but I kinda hate those things.

[DesignatedT]

I was joking that compared to Texas, SFA and Louisiana Tech are powerhouses. I should have used an emoticon I guess, but I kinda hate those things.

Haha I should have known :lol

[Blake]

:lmao you sure do know a lot about our team but you still fail.

I know more than you about your own team.

In desperation, you are trying to reach for the fail card.

That's a shame.


You can compare stats all day but Michael is just as good if not a better runner than Gray and our running game has been strong all season long.

as good if not better?

Please share how you know Michael is as good if not better without using stats.



1) Tannehill has had a huge impact on this team with his smart play and accuracy with the ball that Jerrod did not have and the difference in turnovers shows that.

Tannehill had a few turnovers early on, and was only 14-30 for 100+ against UT. Not exactly a difference maker.


What I am trying to say here is that if Gray and Michael had switched places and Gray was the one who got hurt... Michael would be averaging the same amount of yards that Gray is now.

Prove it.


Obviously our defense deserves more credit than anyone but these things have been the main components for our offensive success from the beginning of the year to now.

The defense as a whole, meh.

If you want to give the mvp to Von Miller, I have no issue with that......the dude is sick.


So please, stop acting like you know anything about Aggie football because you look at the box score and go get ready for the ticketcity bowl.

I know more than you because I do look at the box score.

Pathetic that an Aggie fan is getting burned alive on facts about his own team.

[Blake]

Haha I should have known :lol

haha, but you didn't. :lol :lol

[DesignatedT]

I know more than you about your own team.

In desperation, you are trying to reach for the fail card.

That's a shame.



as good if not better?

Please share how you know Michael is as good if not better without using stats.




Tannehill had a few turnovers early on, and was only 14-30 for 100+ against UT. Not exactly a difference maker.



Prove it.



The defense as a whole, meh.

If you want to give the mvp to Von Miller, I have no issue with that......the dude is sick.



I know more than you because I do look at the box score.

Pathetic that an Aggie fan is getting burned alive on facts about his own team.

Wow, you have provided absolutely nothing here except "prove it". nice job.

I am reaching for the fail card out of desperation? lmao

Everyone who watches Aggie football regularly knows what Christine is capable of... obviously you don't.

You're missing the whole point with Tannehill. Again, you are just looking at the box score and the things that Tannehill has brought to this team are not going to show up there.

Prove it? :lol

You continue to show your ignorance on the topic. Our defense as a whole is meh, but you would give the mvp to von miller? Yes, Von is our most talented player on our whole roster. Yes, he is a leader of this defense. Yes, he will be a first round draft pick in the NFL and Yes, you know him because he gets the most publicity... but what you don't know is that Michael Hodges has been a huge part of this defense and means just as much to our D as Von does. Hodges leads the team with 111 tackles.

I find the last part of your post pretty amusing tbh. Little frustrated eh? :lmao

[DesignatedT]

haha, but you didn't. :lol :lol

?

[Blake]

Wow, you have provided absolutely nothing here except "prove it". nice job.

wow, I put it right in front of your face and you missed it.

bad job.


I am reaching for the fail card out of desperation? lmao

yes you are :lol:lol


Everyone who watches Aggie football regularly knows what Christine is capable of... obviously you don't.

I know Christine is very good.....as good as any RB in the Big XII.

I know Gray has Heisman potential and is better than Michael.


You're missing the whole point with Tannehill. Again, you are just looking at the box score and the things that Tannehill has brought to this team are not going to show up there.

I know Tannehill has brought some stability and doesn't make many mistakes.

The difference between JJ and RT is not as great as people make out, imo.


Prove it? :lol

Yes, you made a pretty direct statement about how Michael would be as good if not better had he been healthy.

Please prove it.


You continue to show your ignorance on the topic. Our defense as a whole is meh, but you would give the mvp to von miller? Yes, Von is our most talented player on our whole roster. Yes, he is a leader of this defense. Yes, he will be a first round draft pick in the NFL and Yes, you know him because he gets the most publicity... but what you don't know is that Michael Hodges has been a huge part of this defense and means just as much to our D as Von does. Hodges leads the team with 111 tackles.

The real "Wrecking Crew" was never the 51st best in total defense at the end of the regular season. They aren't even better than Mizzou's.

lol at you showing your ignorance in thinking my posts are ignorant.


I find the last part of your post pretty amusing tbh. Little frustrated eh? :lmao

I don't get frustrated on a silly message board.

I find your posts highly amusing.

Can't wait for you to explain how you know Michael would be as good if not better than Gray has been.

[Blake]

?

you not catching the sarcasm was :lol

you not catching why I'm :lol is :lol:lol

[DesignatedT]

I know Christine is very good.....as good as any RB in the Big XII.

I know Gray has Heisman potential and is better than Michael.

They are both great backs.


I know Tannehill has brought some stability and doesn't make many mistakes.

The difference between JJ and RT is not as great as people make out, imo.

This statement alone solidifies that you haven't seen all our games.

Also, Tannehll 6-0, JJ 3-3. Pretty big difference.


Yes, you made a pretty direct statement about how Michael would be as good if not better had he been healthy.

Please prove it.

I know that last season Michael put up some similar #'s to what Gray is this season under a much worse offensive line and overall team, not to mention that we ended up playing from behind a lot of the time.

Do you disagree that our Offensive Line has steadily improved game by game and that this O-line is much better than what we had last season or do you have no idea?

Gray and Michael are equally as good and either would flourish when getting 20+ carries a game.



The real "Wrecking Crew" was never the 51st best in total defense at the end of the regular season. They aren't even better than Mizzou's.

lol at you showing your ignorance in thinking my posts are ignorant.

When did I say anything about "Wrecking Crew" genius. I never once brought up that title. Was simply stating that the only thing you actually know about our defense is "Von Miller" (which is understandable since you only look at box scores and highlights) and that this season it was actually Michael Hodges who was our best defensive player during long stretches... especially when Von was battling an ankle injury.


I love how enthusiastic you are about Aggie football though, I guess we are back on the map :tu

[DesignatedT]

Flashback to the week after Missouri.

Do I think that if we kept JJ starting we would have gone 6-0 from there on out? Absolutely not, 3-3 at best.

Do I think that if we had Tannehill and Michael instead of Gray that we would have gone 6-0 from there on out. Yes, I do believe that and I'm not knocking Cyrus, I just think that Christine is just as good and our O-Line was fantastic to end the year.

[Blake]

This statement alone solidifies that you haven't seen all our games.

Also, Tannehll 6-0, JJ 3-3. Pretty big difference.

This statement means you haven't read all of the Vince young threads in the NFL forum.


I know that last season Michael put up some similar #'s to what Gray is this season under a much worse offensive line and overall team


2010 Cyrus Gray 180 att 1033 yds 5.7 ypc 12 tds
2009 Christine Michael 166 att 844 yds 5.1 ypc 10 tds


Do you disagree that our Offensive Line has steadily improved game by game and that this O-line is much better than what we had last season or do you have no idea?

I don't know that they've improved drastically as you are implying here.

of course, you also said the running game has been strong all season long.

which is it? If it's that the O-line has improved that much, then explain exactly how they have.


Gray and Michael are equally as good and either would flourish when getting 20+ carries a game.

So you don't have any proof of such. I didn't think so.

lol at you calling someone else ignorant.


When did I say anything about "Wrecking Crew" genius. I never once brought up that title.

You didn't, dumbfuck. Someone else brought up the title and I used it again.

At least we both agree that there is no "Wrecking Crew" just yet.


Was simply stating that the only thing you actually know about our defense is "Von Miller" (which is understandable since you only look at box scores and highlights) and that this season it was actually Michael Hodges who was our best defensive player during long stretches... especially when Von was battling an ankle injury.

Is Hodges better than Miller?


I love how enthusiastic you are about Aggie football though, I guess we are back on the map :tu

I'm enthusiastic about Big XII football. :tu

You guess? Apparently you don't look at the map much.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

when did they [Wrecking Crew] return?

Ask OU, who got shut out in the first half of our game with them, and ran into a brick wall 3 different times inside the 5 yardline.

Or ask Nebraska, who never even sniffed the endzone against us.

Or you could just consult y'all's own RB who got hit so hard he coughed up the ball mere inches from scoring against A&M, and turned the tide of that game in our favor.

[Blake]

Ask OU, who got shut out in the first half of our game with them, and ran into a brick wall 3 different times inside the 5 yardline.

Or ask Nebraska, who never even sniffed the endzone against us.

Or you could just consult y'all's own RB who got hit so hard he coughed up the ball mere inches from scoring against A&M, and turned the tide of that game in our favor.

maybe I'll ask Mizzou who lit up A&M but got stuffed by a sorry Tech defense.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

maybe I'll ask Mizzou who lit up A&M but got stuffed by a sorry Tech defense.

As I said in an earlier post, the offense put the defense in so many terrible positions with shitty possessions that when the D needed to step up, they were already gassed. Not to take anything away from Mizzou, though--their offense was on point that game, but that was probably the worst game of the year as far as one unit (the offense) letting down another (the defense).

Also, the Mizzou game was ONE game--I cited three.

[Blake]

Also, the Mizzou game was ONE game--I cited three.

Cite them all and it puts A&M at about the 50th best defense in the country, about 4th best in the Big XII.

Is that how you define Wrecking Crew?

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Cite them all and it puts A&M at about the 50th best defense in the country, about 4th best in the Big XII.

Is that how you define Wrecking Crew?

I define Wrecking Crew as more than stats--it's a state of mind for the unit. No matter how the game has gone, they're not gonna roll over; instead they've risen to the occasion time and again. If you watched the texas game, even the texas fans around us didn't feel comfortable if it came down to a chest match with our defense if it came down to the wire (which is why many of them left before Von Miller's game-sealing interception).

Aggies who refuse to acknowledge this defense as the Wrecking Crew rely on stats. Comparing this iteration of the defense to the original WC is night and day, not to mention unfair to both groups. The original WC played in a more ground-based offensive era. Due to rule changes and mindset changes, there's more air-it-out style offenses in college football today than in any other era, and the Big 12 is no exception (you as a tech fan should know this better than anybody). There simply isn't going to be another defense that outscores the offense--it's not possible now, and more importantly, would not have been possible had the original WC played in the modern era.

A prime example of how this defense, in fact, IS the Wrecking Crew is the game against Baylor this season. They were facing an offense with a juggernaut at the controls the likes of which the original Wrecking Crew had never seen in Robert Griffin III, not to mention a resurgent team on the road with everything to play for and a home crowd out for blood. Got hit right in the mouth in the first half with RG3 doing as he pleased, and going into the half, everyone in attendance rightfully assumed it would be an offensive shootout. However, when the game was on the line in the second half, the defense left that same offense battered, bruised, and scoreless, with the fleet-footed RG3 limping off the field.

It's unrealistic and unfair to expect the Aggie defense to be ranked #1 in conference week in and week out to be called the "real" Wrecking Crew, whatever that arbitrary shifting target is. Even the original WC had their off games, and I know for a fact they weren't ALWAYS #1. Like I said earlier, it's not about stats, it's about the defenses belief in itself, and the fans' belief in the defense, that when it matters most, the unit will get the job done.

[BUMP]

LSU was definitely the best draw for A&M. I think they could definitely beat them.

Alabama or Arkansas wouldn't roll them but would probably beat them pretty handily. LSU is fool's gold it seems like. They could easily have 3 or 4 more losses if not for those goofy Les Miles trick plays leading to wild finishes

[Blake]

I define Wrecking Crew as more than stats--it's a state of mind for the unit. No matter how the game has gone, they're not gonna roll over; instead they've risen to the occasion time and again. If you watched the texas game, even the texas fans around us didn't feel comfortable if it came down to a chest match with our defense if it came down to the wire (which is why many of them left before Von Miller's game-sealing interception).

Aggies who refuse to acknowledge this defense as the Wrecking Crew rely on stats. Comparing this iteration of the defense to the original WC is night and day, not to mention unfair to both groups. The original WC played in a more ground-based offensive era. Due to rule changes and mindset changes, there's more air-it-out style offenses in college football today than in any other era, and the Big 12 is no exception (you as a tech fan should know this better than anybody). There simply isn't going to be another defense that outscores the offense--it's not possible now, and more importantly, would not have been possible had the original WC played in the modern era.

A prime example of how this defense, in fact, IS the Wrecking Crew is the game against Baylor this season. They were facing an offense with a juggernaut at the controls the likes of which the original Wrecking Crew had never seen in Robert Griffin III, not to mention a resurgent team on the road with everything to play for and a home crowd out for blood. Got hit right in the mouth in the first half with RG3 doing as he pleased, and going into the half, everyone in attendance rightfully assumed it would be an offensive shootout. However, when the game was on the line in the second half, the defense left that same offense battered, bruised, and scoreless, with the fleet-footed RG3 limping off the field.

It's unrealistic and unfair to expect the Aggie defense to be ranked #1 in conference week in and week out to be called the "real" Wrecking Crew, whatever that arbitrary shifting target is. Even the original WC had their off games, and I know for a fact they weren't ALWAYS #1. Like I said earlier, it's not about stats, it's about the defenses belief in itself, and the fans' belief in the defense, that when it matters most, the unit will get the job done.

so you basically made up your own definition.

figured.

[Sisk]

Blake, you're trolling so hard it's ridiculous.

[johngateswhiteley]

LSU was definitely the best draw for A&M. I think they could definitely beat them.

Alabama or Arkansas wouldn't roll them but would probably beat them pretty handily.

the same arkansas team A&M lost to by 7 with 4 turnovers, before the qb change? i do think arkansas has gotten better and they along with alabama would be tougher games, but A&M could play with both. i don't know if we will beat lsu, but its a more favorable match up. i think its probably a 3-7 point game, however.

[johngateswhiteley]

Blake, you're trolling so hard it's ridiculous.

true, but he is being fed...and seemingly bitter.

[Blake]

Blake, you're trolling so hard it's ridiculous.

This is fine entertainment, but I haven't said anything I don't think isnt really true.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

so you basically made up your own definition.

figured.

There's no magical mark that must be reached to give license to the term, "Wrecking Crew," either. The whole thing was contrived to begin with, so on some level everyone basically made up their own definition at some point. The attitude I and most Aggies have seen them display this season is worthy of restoring such a moniker.

[btw, I apologize for feeding the troll. Slow couple days for me :lol]

[rjv]

right, they changed RBs due to Mchael being hurt.

and Gray's big play ability has been a difference maker, notably against UT.


they did not change RBs. they lost one and the other one stepped up. next season it will be back to having gray and michael as the RBs.

if the implication is that gray is superior to michael i just do not see that. michael is more explosive but gray is very good in his own right. obviously. but hey, i'm not going to be miffed either way. if the aggies happen to have 2 solid RBs who are not even juniors yet (and a couple of solid frosh as well) then even better.

but the running game would have improved regardless as the offensive line was starting to gel and the 2 freshmen tackles started playing like the blue chip recruits they were.

[rjv]

2010 Cyrus Gray 180 att 1033 yds 5.7 ypc 12 tds
2009 Christine Michael 166 att 844 yds 5.1 ypc 10 tds

gray was a redshirt freshman who had one spring camp under his belt. michael got fewer carries to start the season but by the end of the year was getting big rushes (see the ut game).




I don't know that they've improved drastically as you are implying here.

of course, you also said the running game has been strong all season long.

which is it? If it's that the O-line has improved that much, then explain exactly how they have.

the o-line gave up 23 sacks in the first 6 games and 12 in the last 6 (against top ranked defenses such as nebraska, texas and oklahoma). they also gave up only 2 more sacks against the top defenses than they did against florida international alone. also piled up 150 more yards rushing against the last 6 much tougher opponents.

http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2010-2011/teamgbg.html#TGBG.GBC

[Blake]

true, but he is being fed...and seemingly bitter.

neh. reading comprehension failure on your part.

[rjv]

to add, what i really like about gray is how he is so patient in waiting for the hole to open up. on the other hand, michael just gets to the seam so quickly that gives him more big play potential. just different styles i guess.

[Blake]

There's no magical mark that must be reached to give license to the term, "Wrecking Crew," either. The whole thing was contrived to begin with, so on some level everyone basically made up their own definition at some point. The attitude I and most Aggies have seen them display this season is worthy of restoring such a moniker.

The Wrecking Crew dominated back in the late 80s and early 90s.

Just like Nebraska and the blackshirts, I know Aggie fans are in a hurry to get back to those days and any semblance of a good defense makes them ready to call them that again......but this D is not anywhere near the same.


[btw, I apologize for feeding the troll. Slow couple days for me :lol]

If you want to have a discussion then great. If not, then gtfo. Pretty simple and nothing to apologize for unless you are a pussy.

[Blake]

they did not change RBs. they lost one and the other one stepped up.

semantics.


next season it will be back to having gray and michael as the RBs.

most likely right. It's a shame.... I think it will take away a possible Doak Walker award nomination.


if the implication is that gray is superior to michael i just do not see that. michael is more explosive but gray is very good in his own right. obviously. but hey, i'm not going to be miffed either way. if the aggies happen to have 2 solid RBs who are not even juniors yet (and a couple of solid frosh as well) then even better.

but the running game would have improved regardless as the offensive line was starting to gel and the 2 freshmen tackles started playing like the blue chip recruits they were.

Imo, from what I've seen, Gray is superior, and I bet finishes his career with better numbers than Michael does.

You see it different, no prob. I think some are hung on Michael being a 5 star recruit and Gray a 4 star.

[Blake]

to add, what i really like about gray is how he is so patient in waiting for the hole to open up. on the other hand, michael just gets to the seam so quickly that gives him more big play potential. just different styles i guess.

Gray's vision and patience impress me a lot obviously.

1st Aggie in about 17 years to rush for more than 100 yards in at least 4 straight games.

You can say it's the offensive line improvement. I think there's some truth to that.......but I also don't think it's a total coincidence that the line also started looking really good around the time Gray and (Tannehill) started getting their touches.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

The Wrecking Crew dominated back in the late 80s and early 90s.

Just like Nebraska and the blackshirts, I know Aggie fans are in a hurry to get back to those days and any semblance of a good defense makes them ready to call them that again......but this D is not anywhere near the same.



If you want to have a discussion then great. If not, then gtfo. Pretty simple and nothing to apologize for unless you are a pussy.

So the fuck what? You know as well as I do that the style of football the current D faces week in and week out is wildly different than anything the original WC ever faced. They've more than held their own this season against top 10 offenses and unique threats alike. I myself refrained from calling them the WC until after the OU game. Like I said, if you're looking for a defense with the same stats as the original WC, keep looking, because it's never going to happen the way the game has changed. You want to keep bringing up the specter of past defenses like it changes anything, but it doesn't in the slightest take away from the fact that this defense plays with a ferocity not seen since the WC days.

And btw, dumbass, anyone with half a brain (or a non-texas tech education) could have figured out that my apology wasn't directed at you. I'm attempting to have a discussion with you, but if you want to keep on regurgitating the same talking points that have already been addressed ad nauseum, you can gtfo. This thread is supposed to be centered on A&M and the Cotton Bowl, not some butthurt tech fan, but some of us are kind enough to attempt a reasonable exchange of ideas. Don't abuse that.

[DesignatedT]

The "Wrecking Crew" can return whenever the student body wants it to return. There is no certain standard to what a Wrecking Crew defense is and it would be ridiculous to think that any defense can match what ours was in the 80's. We will never have a defense like that again and our student body feels this defense has done enough to earn that title this season... therefore they are the "Wrecking Crew".

Nobody says or is implying that this defense is better or equal to what we had back in the day and why the fuck do you even care if we call it the wrecking crew or not? :lol

[Brutalis]

It's the offensive line improvement.

[DesignatedT]

It's the offensive line improvement.

Definitely. With 3 freshman that play on the line (2 true freshman), it was expected to take awhile, but they have really turned it up the 2nd half of the season.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Definitely. With 3 freshman that play on the line (2 true freshman), it was expected to take awhile, but they have really turned it up the 2nd half of the season.

Plus, as much as I love JJ's mobility (though his was overrated, IMO), having a guy like Tannehill who'll hang in the pocket longer instead of getting happy feet a second after the snap makes the Oline's job that much easier (or at the very least, more rigidly defined).

[Fpoonsie]

to add, what i really like about gray is how he is so patient in waiting for the hole to open up.


Unlike your boy Neal.

tee, hee.

[Fpoonsie]

I'm excited to see what the Ags can do against LSU. The transformation of this team over the course of the year has been remarkable. There hasn't been this much excitement in College Station since they opened up that 20th Freebirds location at the corner of University and Hwy 6.

[Blake]

And btw, dumbass, anyone with half a brain (or a non-texas tech education) could have figured out that my apology wasn't directed at you.

so anyone with half a brain has a non-texas tech education. Did you use half a brain to think that one through before you typed it?

anyone with less than half a brain could figure I was calling you a pussy.



I'm attempting to have a discussion with you, but if you want to keep on regurgitating the same talking points that have already been addressed ad nauseum, you can gtfo.

where have I regurgiated the same talking points to you?

maybe you should just apologize again to your fellow Aggies for posting and be on your way.


This thread is supposed to be centered on A&M and the Cotton Bowl, not some butthurt tech fan, but some of us are kind enough to attempt a reasonable exchange of ideas. Don't abuse that.

:lol Gtfo

I've posted nothing in this or any other thread that indicates butthurt or jealousy. You need to check the redness of your own ass.

[Blake]

The "Wrecking Crew" can return whenever the student body wants it to return. There is no certain standard to what a Wrecking Crew defense is and it would be ridiculous to think that any defense can match what ours was in the 80's. We will never have a defense like that again and our student body feels this defense has done enough to earn that title this season... therefore they are the "Wrecking Crew".

Nobody says or is implying that this defense is better or equal to what we had back in the day and why the fuck do you even care if we call it the wrecking crew or not? :lol

Why the fuck do you care enough to respond to me?

Someone said the Wrecking Crew returned. I asked when or where because I haven't seen it. Basically what you guys have said is "it's back because we say it's back."

Neat!

[LoneStarState'sPride]

so anyone with half a brain has a non-texas tech education. Did you use half a brain to think that one through before you typed it?

anyone with less than half a brain could figure I was calling you a pussy.

No, it means that anyone with half a brain could have figured out who I was talking to better than a product of that tier 3 POS barely accredited "university" in lubbock. Note to self: keep examples more simple for tech tard in the future.


where have I regurgiated the same talking points to you?

You keep going back to the "I haven't seen it [WC defense] yet" or trying to compare the current D to the old WC despite the fact that the very name itself is arbitrary and such comparisons are apples to oranges anyway.


I've posted nothing in this or any other thread that indicates butthurt or jealousy.

Your very presence in this thread indicates both. :lol Feel free to ungracefully bow out at any time.

[Blake]

No, it means that anyone with half a brain could have figured out who I was talking to better than a product of that tier 3 POS barely accredited "university" in lubbock. Note to self: keep examples more simple for tech tard in the future.

Anyone with half a brain (or a non-Texas Tech educated person) knows you are a step behind here.

Maybe you should keep it more simple so that you can keep up with yourself.


You keep going back to the "I haven't seen it [WC defense] yet" or trying to compare the current D to the old WC despite the fact that the very name itself is arbitrary and such comparisons are apples to oranges anyway.

Looking back, I believe I asked you once and maybe DesT once. Hardly a regurgitation.

I received your reply on this and really haven't responded back after your clarification.

It's been duly noted that you think it's the Wrecking Crew even though they are 51st best in the nation and 4th best in the conference.

Nothing more to say except lol.


Your very presence in this thread indicates both. :lol Feel free to ungracefully bow out at any time.

It implies neither. Even someone with a half a brain (or a non-Texas Tech educated person) can understand that.

[DesignatedT]

So has anyone watched LSU play this year? Brutalis?

I know they could easily have 3 or 4 losses on the year. I've heard there offense is terrible but there Defense is good (better than any we have seen all year? Nebraska?)

[BUMP]

So has anyone watched LSU play this year? Brutalis?

I know they could easily have 3 or 4 losses on the year. I've heard there offense is terrible but there Defense is good (better than any we have seen all year? Nebraska?)

I posted my comments about them earlier but it got lost amid all the trolling and university dick measuring that goes on in here frequently. Here it is again


LSU was definitely the best draw for A&M. I think they could definitely beat them.

Alabama or Arkansas wouldn't roll them but would probably beat them pretty handily. LSU is fool's gold it seems like. They could easily have 3 or 4 more losses if not for those goofy Les Miles trick plays leading to wild finishes

[rjv]

from what i heard, it was the LSU defense that played great at the start of the year while the offense struggled and then it was the defense that struggled at the end of the year while the offense got on track.

[johngateswhiteley]

neh. reading comprehension failure on your part.

no, i said "seemingly" ...thus, comprehension failure on your part.

[Blake]

no, i said "seemingly" ...thus, comprehension failure on your part.

You read what I wrote and it seemed to you that I'm bitter. That's exactly why it's a comprehension failure. I have absolutely no reason to be bitter towards A&M.

You just failed again. Good post. :tu

[johngateswhiteley]

You read what I wrote and it seemed to you that I'm bitter. That's exactly why it's a comprehension failure. I have absolutely no reason to be bitter towards A&M.

You just failed again. Good post. :tu


its hard to have a conversation with someone like you...that you're a tekk fan is fitting. moving on, if i say seemingly, clearly i don't know if you are or are not. second, i do not think you are bitter toward A&M; back to back assumptions.

[Blake]

its hard to have a conversation with someone like you...that you're a tekk fan is fitting. moving on, if i say seemingly, clearly i don't know if you are or are not. second, i do not think you are bitter toward A&M; back to back assumptions.

clearly you don't know what the word seemingly means. That you're an Aggie only feeds the stereotype.

another good post. :tu

[johngateswhiteley]

lest we forget, A&M got a real nice win over washington the other night. second win over a top 25 team this early season.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

lest we forget, A&M got a real nice win over washington the other night. second win over a top 25 team this early season.

Yup, and it was really cool to see the football team honored @ halftime, too :toast

[DesignatedT]

Just so people know before they go lay a bunch of money down


BATON ROUGE -- Stevan Ridley, LSU's leading rusher and team captain, has been ruled academically ineligible to compete in the Jan. 7 AT&T Cotton Bowl, Coach Les Miles said Wednesday.

I am not sure if LSU is filing an appeal or already did or whatever but it looks like Ridley might be out. This levels the playing field quite a bit. I'm so ready for this game.

[johngateswhiteley]

Just so people know before they go lay a bunch of money down



I am not sure if LSU is filing an appeal or already did or whatever but it looks like Ridley might be out. This levels the playing field quite a bit. I'm so ready for this game.

levels the playing field?

ridley was ruled out some time ago and lsu has been going through the appeal process. suppose to have a ruling by tuesday.

[DesignatedT]

Well for those who think lsu is superior. They are favored by a couple.

I understand Ridley was ruled out awhile ago but I wasn't sure if the appeal process failed already or not. He is a big part of their offense and would be a huge blow for them if he doesn't play.....

[johngateswhiteley]

Well for those who think lsu is superior. They are favored by a couple.

I understand Ridley was ruled out awhile ago but I wasn't sure if the appeal process failed already or not. He is a big part of their offense and would be a huge blow for them if he doesn't play.....

i thought A&M wanted to measure themselves/play with the big boys.

[Darth_Pelican]

LSU Alum here.... I attended all but 1 home game this year, and if there were 1 word to describe this year's LSU team, it is FRUSTRATING.

LSU truly has the athletes to beat anyone in the country, EXCEPT at QB and COACH.

Starting QB Jordan Jefferson had the football IQ of a mannequin with a head injury. If there are 2 decisions to make on any single option or passing play, he makes the WRONG decision about 80% of the time. The only solid games he played this year were against Alabama and Ole Miss.

And then there is the "Mad Hatter" Les Miles.... Does he have some good qualities as a head coach? Yes. Is he a good recruiter? Yes. But does that make up for all of the bonehead shit he does? ......... Les should feel very fortunate that Tennessee had 13 men on the field on that play; otherwise he would be on the hot seat.

LSU's strength is definitely their team speed on defense. The will get after it.

If A&M doesn't turn the ball over or kick it to Patrick Peterson (the guy is an absolute beast, and has set up LSU in great field position all year), and they keep LSU on a long field, then they have a good chance of winning the game. LSU can't sustain long drives.

LSU is very run dependant, and the loss of Ridley definitely hurts their chances. A&M should stack 8 in the box until Jefferson proves (which he won't) that he can hit some open receivers.

Should be a good game.

As a homer, I'll pick LSU in a close one.... 24-20

[DesignatedT]

i thought A&M wanted to measure themselves/play with the big boys.

?

[DesignatedT]

LSU Alum here.... I attended all but 1 home game this year, and if there were 1 word to describe this year's LSU team, it is FRUSTRATING.

LSU truly has the athletes to beat anyone in the country, EXCEPT at QB and COACH.

Starting QB Jordan Jefferson had the football IQ of a mannequin with a head injury. If there are 2 decisions to make on any single option or passing play, he makes the WRONG decision about 80% of the time. The only solid games he played this year were against Alabama and Ole Miss.

And then there is the "Mad Hatter" Les Miles.... Does he have some good qualities as a head coach? Yes. Is he a good recruiter? Yes. But does that make up for all of the bonehead shit he does? ......... Les should feel very fortunate that Tennessee had 13 men on the field on that play; otherwise he would be on the hot seat.

LSU's strength is definitely their team speed on defense. The will get after it.

If A&M doesn't turn the ball over or kick it to Patrick Peterson (the guy is an absolute beast, and has set up LSU in great field position all year), and they keep LSU on a long field, then they have a good chance of winning the game. LSU can't sustain long drives.

LSU is very run dependant, and the loss of Ridley definitely hurts their chances. A&M should stack 8 in the box until Jefferson proves (which he won't) that he can hit some open receivers.

Should be a good game.

As a homer, I'll pick LSU in a close one.... 24-20


Thanks for the take :tu I haven't really been able to see much of LSU this season.

Every Tiger fan seems to say the same things when it comes to your guys' squad. A pretty unpredictable and less than stellar offense with a great defense and special teams. I definitely think that LSU is a lot faster as a team then anyone we have faced this season but our defense is definitely much improved also. I saw this take from tigerdroppings that was pretty solid about comparing the 2 defenses.

When looking at the total defense rankings LSU comes in at #8. A&M comes in at #50. LSU's Tiger defense gave up on average 301.7 yds per game this year. A&M's defense gave up 357.5 yds per game.

Case closed right? #8 is a better ranking than #50 and giving up only 300yds is better than giving up 350yds. It would appear so on the surface.

The total defense statistic assumes the defenses are on the field for the same number of plays. Obviously they are not and a lot of that has to do with the team's very own offense...is it a hurry up offense or a grind it out/chew up the clock offense. Obviously a hurry up offense means the defense will be back out on the field more often.

Texas A&M definitely runs a hurry up offense. The Aggies have gone even faster since Tannehill became the QB. Looking at the offense statistics you clearly see how fast they are. They are tied for 6th in the country in total number of plays run this year. Teams ranked 1-5 actually played one more game this year. If you avg. out plays/game, only Oklahoma has more. Thus Texas A&M probably has the second "fastest" offense in the nation meaning their defense is on the field a lot more often.

So how do we resolve the defensive statistics to account for A&M's D being on the field more often due to its hurry up offense? I think the only way is to look at yds/play.

According to yds/play:

#11-Texas A&M (4.7)
#16-LSU (4.8)

These same statistics are consistent when you compare scoring D. LSU gives up 17pts/game, A&M 20 pts/game. But when you factor in A&M's defense being on the field 15-20% more plays, the pts yielded statistics even out.


Do I think A&M has a better defense than LSU b/c of this? No. To truly answer that question you would have to compare the offenses of the opponents they have played. A quick cursory search yields the top 5 offenses played by each team:

A&M:
#1 Ok.State
#10 Arkansas
#12 Oklahoma
#13 Baylor
#18 Texas Tech

LSU:
#8 Auburn
#10 Arkansas
#27 Alabama
#45 Mississippi
#46 MSU


My gut tells me these defenses are a lot closer than anyone would like to believe. They both have mini-geniuses as their DC. They both have a leader of unquestionable talent and sure-fire top 10 NFL draft pick in 2011 who have brought home serious hardware.

I think the same fallacies that we might see with regards to defensive statistics work on the offensive side of the ball as well. On the surface one might think there is a large discrepancy between #22 A&M and #89 LSU in total offense. But so many more factors go into this debate as well. NAMELY, what kind of D is each team facing on the season. Without even performing a cursory search here I think most will agree LSU has been facing much tougher defenses in the SEC than A&M has in the Big 12.

The one area that I think people on both sides of the Cotton Bowl have failed to discuss (and the most important aspect of the game IMO) is Texas A&M punting. A&M ranks #119/120 in the NCAA in punting. #119/#120. And it is much worse than that statistic lets on. It has been so bad that A&M has resorted to having their QB punt on occasion. Rumors have been floating around as well that A&M's starting punter will miss the Cotton Bowl. That means the best guy they have, who happens to be the 2nd worst punter in the nation, will be missing the game with injury. He is the starter for a reason...that reason being he is the best A&M has. Thus the backup must be atrocious. To compound all of this the backup will be punting to one Patrick Peterson. I would be shocked if LSU doesn't get at least 1 TD out of punt returns. Additionally the Tigers should have great field position for most of the day. This will be the difference in the game IMO.

My main worry is definitely special teams when it comes to this Aggie squad since it's been so inconsistent all season long. LSU definitely has one of the stronger special teams in the nation and IMO that could end up being the difference in the game since I believe our defense and offense match up pretty evenly. The loss of Ridley is definitely a big blow to your offense, and I'm not certain but I heard his backup is a true freshman?

Anyway, I'm pretty excited about playing you guys and hopefully it turns out to be a good one.

[johngateswhiteley]

Thanks for the take :tu I haven't really been able to see much of LSU this season.

Every Tiger fan seems to say the same things when it comes to your guys' squad. A pretty unpredictable and less than stellar offense with a great defense and special teams. I definitely think that LSU is a lot faster as a team then anyone we have faced this season but our defense is definitely much improved also. I saw this take from tigerdroppings that was pretty solid about comparing the 2 defenses.


My main worry is definitely special teams when it comes to this Aggie squad since it's been so inconsistent all season long. LSU definitely has one of the stronger special teams in the nation and IMO that could end up being the difference in the game since I believe our defense and offense match up pretty evenly. The loss of Ridley is definitely a big blow to your offense, and I'm not certain but I heard his backup is a true freshman?

Anyway, I'm pretty excited about playing you guys and hopefully it turns out to be a good one.


i don't get the les miles hate, he has elevated your program. imo, he's a great coach.

[Darth_Pelican]

i don't get the les miles hate, he has elevated your program. imo, he's a great coach.

The program was actually elevated by Nick Saban before Les arrived. Saban was the coach in 2003 when LSU won their first BCS championship, and then in 2007 it was Saban's recruits which Les coached for the second crystal ball. And even when Les did win that BCS Championship, it was with a 2 loss team; the only time there has ever been a 2 loss team to win the BCS Championship.

It isn't that I hate Les. He has won some big games in his years at LSU, and has proven to be a solid recruiter. I don't mind if he stays long term, as he consistently wins 10+ games per year and competes for division/conference/national championships.

It's just that the clock mismanagement issues at the end of games drives me crazy, and while his "riverboat gambling" type play calling sometimes makes him look like a genius, other times it blows up in his face. I do think he dropped the ball by sticking to Jordan Jefferson as the starting QB this year, as the guy isn't going to consistently win games against top tier teams.

If nothing else, the guy is entertaining.

[johngateswhiteley]

The program was actually elevated by Nick Saban before Les arrived. Saban was the coach in 2003 when LSU won their first BCS championship, and then in 2007 it was Saban's recruits which Les coached for the second crystal ball. And even when Les did win that BCS Championship, it was with a 2 loss team; the only time there has ever been a 2 loss team to win the BCS Championship.

It isn't that I hate Les. He has won some big games in his years at LSU, and has proven to be a solid recruiter. I don't mind if he stays long term, as he consistently wins 10+ games per year and competes for division/conference/national championships.

It's just that the clock mismanagement issues at the end of games drives me crazy, and while his "riverboat gambling" type play calling sometimes makes him look like a genius, other times it blows up in his face. I do think he dropped the ball by sticking to Jordan Jefferson as the starting QB this year, as the guy isn't going to consistently win games against top tier teams.

If nothing else, the guy is entertaining.

so? there are over 120 teams in D-1 football...consider yourself lucky to compete and have a coach that acts accordingly.

[MajorMike]

Leslie was the exact same way at OSU. We beat KState in 05 or so when they were top 15 and we used the same kicker behind the back pass he used at LSU. We constantly complained about his clock management but let it go overall because he was winning. He was almost as good for a sound bite as Howard Dean. You live and die by the molester; just the way it is.

[johngateswhiteley]

Leslie was the exact same way at OSU. We beat KState in 05 or so when they were top 15 and we used the same kicker behind the back pass he used at LSU. We constantly complained about his clock management but let it go overall because he was winning. He was almost as good for a sound bite as Howard Dean. You live and die by the molester; just the way it is.

and he is better than Gundy.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

The Big 12 is lookign like a big steaming pile of shit and shitted out shit that's been eaten as shit. There is absolutely zero chance the Aggies win, because I've yet to ever see them shock the world doing anything other than upsetting UT.
I will be cheering for them, as I hate the SEC, but we will probably just watch an aggie ass pounding.

[johngateswhiteley]

The Big 12 is lookign like a big steaming pile of shit and shitted out shit that's been eaten as shit. There is absolutely zero chance the Aggies win, because I've yet to ever see them shock the world doing anything other than upsetting UT.
I will be cheering for them, as I hate the SEC, but we will probably just watch an aggie ass pounding.

outside of oklahoma state, the big 12 has been getting raped. i was impressed with washington's win over nerbaska (go Pac-10!) even if it wasn't the same husker team.

all this doesn't bode well for A&M, necessarily, but then again A&M is a good team. I believe in them.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I sure hope so. I would enjoy watching them rape LSU.

[BillWalton]

It wasn't really shocking to see Nebraska get beat. Their offense has been completely exposed for some time now.

Texas Tech and OU will probably curbstomp Northwestern and UConn respectively and even it out a bit

[MajorMike]

and he is better than Gundy.

Funny; leslie never won 11 games in one season. Or 10, for that matter.

[Blake]

and he is better than Gundy.

debatable.

[johngateswhiteley]

debatable.

i don't see it.

[Blake]

i don't see it.

no surprise.

[DesignatedT]

Looks like Ridley will play.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/01/expect-lsus-stevan-ridley-to-be-reinstat.html

[johngateswhiteley]

almost game time. the closer it gets the more it feels like a pick'em.

[DesignatedT]

Almost here. BTHO LSU!!!!!!!!!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'll eat crow if Aggies can do something right for once.

[Fpoonsie]

Football gods making up for the bullshit roughing the kicker penalty...

[LakerHater]

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2q9mkr4.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

^^^^^^^^^How the hell did you do that into a .gif so fast?

Please tell me

[Dr. Gonzo]

My guess would be screen capture program, gif converter and a live stream.

[Fpoonsie]

Jesus Christ. Terrible fucking end to that half. Tannehill needs to get his head outta his ass...fast.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

All this to be expected for sure

But I just cannot understand why they do this every time.

Might as well start the "SEC" chants now.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

LSU QB had 6 Passing TD's this SEASON


he has 2 THIS HALF against aggie

utterly amazing

[LakerHater]

Jesus Christ. Terrible fucking end to that half. Tannehill needs to get his head outta his ass...fast.

Seriously, Tannihill had 3 INTs all season & has 2 in this game!! :bang

[LakerHater]

http://30fps.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-January-7-22-3-46.jpg.pagespeed.ce.dDsL761U-O.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I dont get it

[LakerHater]

I dont get it
?

[Fpoonsie]

Even if A&M manages to score here, they've shown no signs of being able to contain LSU's QB. Ridiculous...

:depressed

[benefactor]

Damn...that RB just got Tannehill killed.

[Fpoonsie]

Damn...that RB just got Tannehill killed.

Yeah, that was ugly...

[LakerHater]

Helmet to helmet??

[Cant_Be_Faded]

?

What's that hand symbol that chick is making

[Fpoonsie]

Yikes. If we hafta make THAT kinda play to score against LSU's D in the 2nd half, we're fucked.

Still...a great throw-n-catch.

[LakerHater]

What's that hand symbol that chick is making

W C for Wrecking Crew

[Fpoonsie]

My. fucking. god. Sherman fell in love w/ trickeration in this game, much to the team's detriment.

Fuck. me.

[LakerHater]

WTF, seriously?!?!?!

[LakerHater]

HOLY CRAP, that kick still had alota distance left in it!

[Fpoonsie]

Wow.

Apparently, Tannehill WASN'T that good. The Big XII was just that BAD...

[LakerHater]

Wow.

Apparently, Tannehill WASN'T that good. The Big XII was just that BAD...

NAh hes good..... at staring down his receivers!! :bang

[LakerHater]

Now we're gonna hear it from the LSU fans, DAMMIT!!! :bang

[MajorMike]

What's that hand symbol that chick is making

She is showing you how big jgw's dick is.

[Blake]

Now we're gonna hear it from the LSU fans, DAMMIT!!! :bang

eh, big deal.

congrats to LSU for winning a meaningless exhibition game.

[monosylab1k]

W C for Wrecking Crew

that's pretty gay tbh. if it stood for Westside Connection then maybe i could get behind it.

[Fpoonsie]

:depressed

[LakerHater]

Still a lil pissed bout the helmet to helmet non call!! http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/14.gif

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Jesus Christ almighty I was right to begin with.

Aggies are good at 2 things:

fucking over UT

sucking ass on the big stage


absolutely uncannily implausibly amazing

[monosylab1k]

Still a lil pissed bout the helmet to helmet non call!! http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/14.gif

oh yeah that would have helped. The curbstomping would have been a slightly less painful curbstomping.

[LakerHater]

oh yeah that would have helped. The curbstomping would have been a slightly less painful curbstomping.
Meh, dunno but A&M coulda got a 15 yrd penalty, 1st dwn, score & some momentum!

[MajorMike]

Well, yeah, and QB coulda not thrown 3 INTs; but that didn't happen, either.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If Kori would have given me the Mod Capabilities I asked for, JohnGatesRepublicanWhitley would be pinked for the entire offseason because of this shit.

I have many friends who are aggies, they should have won this fucking game.

But they did the same.old.crap. they always do. Jeeeeeeze

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Damn, you know this a new era in the College Forum when CBF ain't saying CROFL aggies and is actually mad they lost


ROFL CBF

[4>0rings]

Damn, you know this a new era in the College Forum when CBF ain't saying CROFL aggies and is actually mad they lost


ROFL CBFYou know UT has about 2 more years before they become revelent again right? Sad day indeed.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

You know UT has about 2 more years before they become revelent again right? Sad day indeed.

define relevant


Not expecting a title any time soon but as long as we beat OU next year i consider the season a success

[IronMexican]

UT gonna be in the same amount of bowl games as USC for the whole ban-time.

[johngateswhiteley]

If Kori would have given me the Mod Capabilities I asked for, JohnGatesRepublicanWhitley would be pinked for the entire offseason because of this shit.

I have many friends who are aggies, they should have won this fucking game.

But they did the same.old.crap. they always do. Jeeeeeeze

1) i'm not a republican
2) you misspelled my last name
3) yep, A&M could have won

...cannot believe the interceptions from tannehill, nor the roughing the kicker. but, lsu is a good team and you cannot do that and win. rough.

[MajorMike]

3) yep, A&M could have won


Well, I have to say, if there is one thing consistent and across the board with the cult of bryan, it is denial. Comes from the koolaid, I'm sure.

Saying aggy would have won that game IF/IF/IF, is like saying OSU would have beaten UT 2 years ago if Zac hadn't thrown 3 INTs for TDs, because they didn't beat us by 3 TDs.

[mazerrackham]

Well, I have to say, if there is one thing consistent and across the board with the cult of bryan, it is denial. Comes from the koolaid, I'm sure.

Saying aggy would have won that game IF/IF/IF, is like saying OSU would have beaten UT 2 years ago if Zac hadn't thrown 3 INTs for TDs, because they didn't beat us by 3 TDs.

It may be denial to say A&M would've won, but if you would've read the sentence you quoted, you would've seen A&M could've won. Equating A&M having a chance to win with denial is just stupid.

[Fpoonsie]

Well, I have to say, if there is one thing consistent and across the board with the cult of bryan, it is denial. Comes from the koolaid, I'm sure.

Saying aggy would have won that game IF/IF/IF, is like saying OSU would have beaten UT 2 years ago if Zac hadn't thrown 3 INTs for TDs, because they didn't beat us by 3 TDs.

Who's "bryan"?

[johngateswhiteley]

It may be denial to say A&M would've won, but if you would've read the sentence you quoted, you would've seen A&M could've won. Equating A&M having a chance to win with denial is just stupid.

he does that crap all the time. anyway, of course A&M could have won, they didn't play very well. lsu was better that day, but i have to think opposite day for QBs would not be a trend going forward. how jefferson basically matches his season total for TDs, and tannehill his int total, was absurd. and why didn't we run the ball more...it was working.

oh well...

[MajorMike]

Would or could; neither is true.

[johngateswhiteley]

Would or could; neither is true.

i don't know if they would have, but they definitely could have. 4 turnovers to 1 was pretty much the difference.

aside, LSU is pretty damn good. i'd take them over anyone outside of Auburn, Oregon and Stanford.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Could've won? Yes (10-0 start proves that).

Should've? No, lsu was the better team (as indicated by how the remainder of the game went).

[DesignatedT]

After a couple scares (Deruyter to Tulsa and Fuller to the NFL) they have both decided to stay with the aggies for one more season. Fuller staying for his senior season is huge for this team and a great surprise to some!

Gig 'em