2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cups

[lefty]

The World'S Finest already mentioned it in the US MNT topic, but I thought it would be a good idea to have a separate thread.

Here is the link TWF posted : http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/bidders/live/index.html

[SAtown]

FUCK SOUTH KOREA!!!!! I don't think I got any sleep that whole month in 2002.

oh, and LOL Spain, LOL Italy

[MannyIsGod]

US has it locked up.

[FkLA]

What cities in Texas would hold matches in 2022 if it was held in the USA? Im assuming Houston with Reliant Stadium and Dallas with Cowboys Stadium?

[SAtown]

Definitely Jerry World, maybe Reliant. I went to a couple of matches in 94 at the Cotton Bowl, including the quarter finals between Holland and Brazil.

I'd go as far as to say that Dallas could potentially hold the final.

[MannyIsGod]

Dallas and Houston are part of the cities in the bid.

[The_Worlds_finest]

I think the cities will be
Houston
Dallas
NYC-NJ
Miami
LA
Phoenix
Philly
DC

Only issue i see is that the sick stadiums in those cities will be old by 2012

[lefty]

I hope it will be the U.S

Because I live in Canada, so I wont have to travel overseas for a WC

I lived in France during the 98 WC; no need to travel, it was great


2014 WC in Brazil, 2018 or 2022 in USA hopefully

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol australia 50m to bid for the 2022 games, when they couldnt even get a deal done with the local sports authority to give them access to the bigger stadiums and stopping some of the games other sports game just for 1month....if this bid fails, there be alot of immigrants pissed cause its mainly there money and they the ones building the code up down here....the red necks only watch the game when the national side is playing...

[Spurologist]

US would be great....I wouldn't lose any sleep + I'd get a chance for some tix

[MannyIsGod]

List of cities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_2022_FIFA_World_Cup_bid

[Sense]

Guys we all know it'll never happen.... the world ends in 2012!!

[The_Worlds_finest]

2022 Contenders
Qatar: 4/6 Favorite
It's been said that Qatar has played a beautiful political game (though NewsFeed once again stresses that any allegations of 'vote-trading' with Spain/Portugal have been denied). The Unique Selling Point is, of course, that the World Cup has never been held in an Arab country and Qatar's intention to build stadia that can be dismantled and used in countries with poor infrastructure is a vote winner if ever we saw one. But the fact that these same facilities haven't been built in addition to the searing daytime heat (the FIFA report said it poses "a potential health risk for players, officials, the FIFA family and spectators") may count against the bid as well as the fact that this tiny country is only the size of Connecticut

U.S: 5/2
Despite holding the World Cup relatively recently -- 1994 -- the U.S. continues to show tangible evidence at home that the sport is moving in the right direction. Not only is the MLS a legitimate league, with some terrific foreign imports and stadia ready to roll, but American fans bought up more tickets to the 2010 World Cup than anyone else, save for the South African hosts. But it would be quite the coup to be given a second World Cup in such a short space of time, despite the impressive efforts of former President Bill Clinton to persuade FIFA otherwise.

Australia: 5/2
Australia remains the only continent to have never hosted a World Cup. Its people are undoubted sporting fanatics, the past decade saw an Olympics and Rugby World Cup on its shores and 75% of the stadiums have been built. Going against the Aussies is the brutal time difference in regard to the always lucrative European audience and any awarding of the bid could mean that, from a geographical perspective, China would lose out in 2026 and FIFA is known to want to hold the tournament there sooner rather than later.

Japan: 33/1 and South Korea: 40/1
Though separate bids this time around -- they jointly hosted the 2002 World Cup -- the Asian nations can be considered extreme long shots due to holding such a recent tournament. Full kudos to the South Koreans, however, for promising to include a North Korean host city. Good luck with that.

[MannyIsGod]

I'd be pretty shocked if Quatar got it to be quite honest.

[lefty]

2022 Contenders
Qatar: 4/6 Favorite
It's been said that Qatar has played a beautiful political game (though NewsFeed once again stresses that any allegations of 'vote-trading' with Spain/Portugal have been denied). The Unique Selling Point is, of course, that the World Cup has never been held in an Arab country and Qatar's intention to build stadia that can be dismantled and used in countries with poor infrastructure is a vote winner if ever we saw one. But the fact that these same facilities haven't been built in addition to the searing daytime heat (the FIFA report said it poses "a potential health risk for players, officials, the FIFA family and spectators") may count against the bid as well as the fact that this tiny country is only the size of Connecticut

What?

Mexico World Cup in 86?

Heat and altitude



Hello

[TDMVPDPOY]

well they announce yet?

[lefty]

well they announce yet?
Yup

They awarded Canada and France

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yup

They awarded Canada and France

the way france has played in the last 2 tourneys....seems like they need a automatic qualifier....

[lefty]

the way france has played in the last 2 tourneys....seems like they need a automatic qualifier....
:lol

[lefty]

The candidates for the 2018 FIFA World Cup took to the stage on Thursday morning. Belgium (http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=bel/index.html) and the Netherlands (http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=ned/index.html) started the ball rolling at 9.00, followed by Spain (http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=esp/index.html) and Portugal (http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=por/index.html), England (http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=eng/index.html), and finally Russia (http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=rus/index.html) at 12 noon. The running order was previously determined by the drawing of lots.

[The_Worlds_finest]

im bout to puke and cry in anticipation

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol spain n portugal....two broke ass countries...

[resistanze]

Russia!

[lefty]

Yep

Russia :lmao

[resistanze]

2022 winner is...Qatar! lol

[lefty]

Qatar !!!!

[lefty]

LMAO USA

LMAO ENGLAND !!!!


:lmao







:rollin

[lefty]

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/9/64/01/9/@/477212-zinedine-zidane-supporte-le-qatar-pour-637x0-2.jpg
http://www.sportsfeatures.com/PressPoint/images/img1_51135.jpg

[easjer]

Shocking that England's bid didn't go through. Taking a new look at the allegations of corrupt bidding processes... the Brits I follow on twitter are PISSED.

[MannyIsGod]

Could they have picked any worse? Fucking shitty selections, IMO.

[The_Worlds_finest]

2022 is going to be the worst world cup in history.

[lefty]

Speaking of corruption, Germany shouldnt have won the 2006 bid

[lefty]

Could they have picked any worse? Fucking shitty selections, IMO.


2022 is going to be the worst world cup in history.
http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/emperor-let-the-butthurt.png

[SAtown]

How the hell are they going to appropriately schedule games in 2018 with Russia having so many damn time zones? And Qatar??? W.T.FFFFFFFFF

[SAtown]

That Russian bitch on stage was pretty hot too btw

[TDMVPDPOY]

this is what i dont get, what happens to all the money from the bidding teams? does fifa takes it and put in swiss accounts? fkn daylight robbery

[lefty]

this is what i dont get, what happens to all the money from the bidding teams? does fifa takes it and put in swiss accounts? fkn daylight robbery
It happens in every bid

The most scandalous one was Germany getting 2006

[MannyIsGod]

I guess if I want to go to to a WC I'd better go to Brazil because fuck Russia and FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Quatar.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i think qatar for asia makes alot of sense

didnt they just recently hosted some major sporting event, didnt there team win asian championships or there local league teams tend to do well in asian champions league also...


as for australias bid....lmao 50m and didnt even get a vote....fail campaign.

[lefty]

I guess if I want to go to to a WC I'd better go to Brazil because fuck Russia and FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Quatar.
Butthurt, butthurt, some people are butthurt :lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

japan and korea fcked it up for australia :( , they already hosted the even why the fuck they get another chance in the bid

[TDMVPDPOY]

qatar = south africa 2

[scott]

I get Russia... but Qatar? I country that is not fond of drinking? Are they going to publicly stone the Holland Beer Girls when they show up in 2022?

What a fucking joke. Russia is the biggest non-football developed country in the world, so I understand wanting to host it there. Football is very undeveloped in the middle east too, but seriously... a country the size of Conneticut? With a population of the size of San Antonio?

But who are we kidding, we know FIFA is not a clean organization.

[SAtown]

Qatar Population: 1,696,563 :lmao What a fucking joke FIFA is

[scott]

And is Zidane just available to whore out for any country that wants to pad his bank account? WTF is up with that, lefty?

[lefty]

Qatar Population: 1,696,563 :lmao What a fucking joke FIFA is
So?

How is that a factor?

[SAtown]

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/9/64/01/9/@/477212-zinedine-zidane-supporte-le-qatar-pour-637x0-2.jpg
http://www.sportsfeatures.com/presspoint/images/img1_51135.jpg

lol

[SAtown]

So?

How is that a factor?

How the fuck are they supposed to build stadiums? Transportation?

[lefty]

And is Zidane just available to whore out for any country that wants to pad his bank account? WTF is up with that, lefty?
Zizou is a pimp :-)

[lefty]

How the fuck are they supposed to build stadiums? Transportation?
Petrodollars

They will hire workers from China and India

[TDMVPDPOY]

how come usa missed out? cause of 94 still too recent?

[lefty]

how come usa missed out? cause of 94 still too recent?
No

There was a 16 year gap between Mexico 70 and 86

[SAtown]

No

There was a 16 year gap between Mexico 70 and 86

86 was not originally Mexico's WC, it was Columbia's (iirc). So, big difference

[lefty]

86 was not originally Mexico's WC, it was Columbia's (iirc). So, big difference
I didnt know that

[TDMVPDPOY]

qatar will be a loss $$ just like south africa...

[SAtown]

Qatar right now (and most likely in 2022) is around 113 FIFA ranking. So because of these FIFA idiots, one deserved country will not make it in order to accommodate the host country.

[The_Worlds_finest]

Air conditioned solar powered stadiums, able to be broken down and donated to needy countries. I'll believe that when I see it.

Dont forget to account for "global warming", by al gore standards in 2022 the average temp for Qatar should be up 10-15 degrees

[lefty]

Qatar right now (and most likely in 2022) is around 113 FIFA ranking. So because of these FIFA idiots, one deserved country will not make it in order to accommodate the host country.
I agree that it sucks

[TDMVPDPOY]

I agree that it sucks

qatar will be like south africa, build the stadiums, after the tournament is over they probably wont even used it again....

[lefty]

qatar will be like south africa, build the stadiums, after the tournament is over they probably wont even used it again....
Not sure

Some Asian countries's leagues have expanded a lot, so those stadiums can be used after the WC for a bigger Qatari league (of course, not all of them)

[easjer]

Air conditioned solar powered stadiums, able to be broken down and donated to needy countries. I'll believe that when I see it.

Dont forget to account for "global warming", by al gore standards in 2022 the average temp for Qatar should be up 10-15 degrees

That's why they won.

Be interesting to see if it works. That heat is a real concern.

[Muser]

Damn, would of loved to be able to see a WC.

[TDMVPDPOY]

in soviet russia vuvuzela play you

the stadiums being able to break down and reallocate have they ever build anything of this magnitude....

have they even made +50pdf sunblock for this occasion??

[lefty]

Damn, would of loved to be able to see a WC.
I did in 98 :D

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/soccer/tag/_/name/2026-world-cup

interesting read...usa last in it didnt pull out

fkn money talks

[lefty]

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/soccer/tag/_/name/2026-world-cup

interesting read...usa last in it didnt pull out

fkn money talks
It;s ESPN...


Even worse... it's butthurt ESPN

[scott]

Watching Sky Sports... Man, the Brits are severely depressed. Suicide watch is on for the bid team.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Watching Sky Sports... Man, the Brits are severely depressed. Suicide watch is on for the bid team.

umm they are a bunch of wankers anyway

they got the olympics and rugby worldcup coming up, wat else do they need?

do they wanna pull a brazil with the olympics and wc....

too much money going into one country and events....

[The_Worlds_finest]

That's why they won.

Be interesting to see if it works. That heat is a real concern.

Maybe USA should have put shame a side and made outlandish promises? Perhaps to host the championship on the moon?

[scott]

Another fun fact, from 1995-2025 (at least) there will only be one WC held in the Western Hemisphere.

[The_Worlds_finest]

all moaning aside. Yeelap Qatar.

[TDMVPDPOY]

a country with 1.6 ppl

9.95/10 of them ppl can they afford tickets to teh games? FAIL!

[lefty]

a country with 1.6 ppl

9.95/10 of them ppl can they afford tickets to teh games? FAIL!
You are full of fail

[ALVAREZ6]

lol

FIFA never fails to show how fucking pathetic they are.

They should have the 2026 WC on the moon so 2 people can spectate live.

[lefty]

lol

FIFA never fails to show how fucking pathetic they are.

They should have the 2026 WC on the moon so 2 people can spectate live.
How do you know 2018 and 2022 will play out ?


If you have the fucking crystal ball, I'm willing to pay an arm and leg to get it

[lefty]

9R21tEZdnp0

[MannyIsGod]

Americans were the largest travelers to South Africa and they'll probably be the largest to visit in Brazil. I don't know about Russia, but unless there are drastic changes there is no way in hell Americas are going to Qatar.

[lefty]

Americans were the largest travelers to South Africa and they'll probably be the largest to visit in Brazil. I don't know about Russia, but unless there are drastic changes there is no way in hell Americas are going to Qatar.
If American tourists go to Dubai, I'm sure they can go to Qatar and have a good time

[CubanMustGo]

From Wikipedia ...what a fun place for a WC:
When contrasted with other Arab states such as Saudi Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia), for instance, Qatar has comparatively liberal laws, but is still not as liberal as some other Arab states of the Persian Gulf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_states_of_the_Persian_Gulf) like UAE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAE) or Bahrain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain). Qatar is a civil law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_%28legal_system%29)Shari'a (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shari%27a) or Islamic law is applied to aspects of family law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_law), inheritance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance) and certain criminal acts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_law). Women can legally drive in Qatar and there is a strong emphasis in equality and human rights brought by Qatar's National Human Rights Committee (http://www.nhrc-qa.org/en/news.php?item.473). Qatar also has the largest fines in the world in terms of traffic violation as per the recent change in 2010.

The country has undergone a period of liberalization and modernisation during the reign of the current Emir, Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al-Thani), who came to power in 1995. The laws of Qatar tolerate alcohol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage) to a certain extent. However, the few bars and nightclubs in Qatar operate only in expensive hotels and clubs, much Distribution Company, the only importer and retailer for alcohol in Qatar. Under Qatar's Sharia, it is illegal to show alcohol or be drunk in public.

During the month of Ramadan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan), eating, drinking, and smoking in public is strictly banned from dawn to sunset.

In common with other Persian Gulf Arab countries, sponsorship laws exist in Qatar. These laws have been widely described as akin to modern-day slavery.[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar#cite_note-33) The sponsorship system (kafeel or kafala) exists throughout the GCC, apart from Bahrain, and means that a worker (not a tourist) may not enter the country without having a kafeel; cannot leave without the kafeel's permission (an exit permit must first be awarded by the sponsor, or kafeel); and the sponsor has the right to ban the employee from entering Qatar within 2–5 years of his first departure. Many sponsors do not allow the transfer of one employee to another sponsor. This does not apply to special sponsorship of a Qatar Financial Centre-sponsored worker where it is encouraged and regulated that sponsorship should be uninhibited and assistance should be given to allow for such transfers of sponsorship.

[MannyIsGod]

You think American women are going to go to Qatar and put up with their bullshit? I don't.

[lefty]

From Wikipedia ...what a fun place for a WC:
When contrasted with other Arab states such as Saudi Arabia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia), for instance, Qatar has comparatively liberal laws, but is still not as liberal as some other Arab states of the Persian Gulf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_states_of_the_Persian_Gulf) like UAE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAE) or Bahrain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain). Qatar is a civil law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_%28legal_system%29)Shari'a (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shari%27a) or Islamic law is applied to aspects of family law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_law), inheritance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance) and certain criminal acts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_law). Women can legally drive in Qatar and there is a strong emphasis in equality and human rights brought by Qatar's National Human Rights Committee (http://www.nhrc-qa.org/en/news.php?item.473). Qatar also has the largest fines in the world in terms of traffic violation as per the recent change in 2010.

The country has undergone a period of liberalization and modernisation during the reign of the current Emir, Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al-Thani), who came to power in 1995. The laws of Qatar tolerate alcohol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage) to a certain extent. However, the few bars and nightclubs in Qatar operate only in expensive hotels and clubs, much Distribution Company, the only importer and retailer for alcohol in Qatar. Under Qatar's Sharia, it is illegal to show alcohol or be drunk in public.

During the month of Ramadan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan), eating, drinking, and smoking in public is strictly banned from dawn to sunset.

In common with other Persian Gulf Arab countries, sponsorship laws exist in Qatar. These laws have been widely described as akin to modern-day slavery.[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar#cite_note-33) The sponsorship system (kafeel or kafala) exists throughout the GCC, apart from Bahrain, and means that a worker (not a tourist) may not enter the country without having a kafeel; cannot leave without the kafeel's permission (an exit permit must first be awarded by the sponsor, or kafeel); and the sponsor has the right to ban the employee from entering Qatar within 2–5 years of his first departure. Many sponsors do not allow the transfer of one employee to another sponsor. This does not apply to special sponsorship of a Qatar Financial Centre-sponsored worker where it is encouraged and regulated that sponsorship should be uninhibited and assistance should be given to allow for such transfers of sponsorship.


Dont worry , they will loosen up for the WC


And countries like Qatar, Dubai always bend for Westerners anyway...


Don't be so butthurt to the point of Duncan228ing a Wiki page

[MannyIsGod]

Hey maybe Connecticut or DC can bid for the 2026 world cup.

[MannyIsGod]

Dont worry , they will oosen up for the WC


And countries like Qatar, Dubai always bend for Westerners


Don't be so butthurt to the point of Duncan228ing a Wiki page

The only people who think its a good idea are the FIFA officials who got paid, people in Qatar, and you.

[The_Worlds_finest]

Im going 180. This is going to be an awesome world cup! For the first time, its not going to cost and arm and a leg to fly around and follow your team. As long as the travel infrastructure is set. The size of the country could make for a world cup of epic proportions!

[lefty]

The only people who think its a good idea are the FIFA officials who got paid, people in Qatar, and you.
Because I'm not butthurt

[MannyIsGod]

You're also apparently incapable of making a logical observation. Any other option for 2022 had the US not won would have been better than Qatar. Australia, Korea or Japan would all have been MUCH better.

[lefty]

You're also apparently incapable of making a logical observation. Any other option for 2022 had the US not won would have been better than Qatar. Australia, Korea or Japan would all have been MUCH better.
Korea and Japan hosted it recently
Australia ? meh...



But what logical arguments do you have?

[MannyIsGod]

LOL? Meh is a logical argument?

Heat, poplulation, size, attractions outside of the WC, laws, status of football in that nation. The only thing Qatar has going for it is oil money. Thats IT.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL Bedoya tweeted that it was the worst call by FIFA since the Edu offsides. Awesome.

[lefty]

LOL? Meh is a logical argument?

Heat, poplulation, size, attractions outside of the WC, laws, status of football in that nation. The only thing Qatar has going for it is oil money. Thats IT.
Heat: Mexico 86 : temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius, combined with altitude

Attractions outside the WC: oil $$$$ + 12 years to build attractions; not complicated

laws: do you really think they will aplly their laws while the World is watching?
Besides, The Qatari government is looking to make a shitload of $$$$$ out of the WC, they will loosen up.
And when China won the bid for the 2008 Olympics, everybody brought up the lack of democracy and stuff.... but nothing outraging occured during the Olympics
Heck, Pau Gasol & Co made fun of Chinese people and got away with it

Status of football: who cares, they have enough $$$$ to host a good tournament

[The_Worlds_finest]

Manny, every die hard soccer fan in the world is going to be in an area roughly 100 x 55miles (11 times the size of San Antonio.) It has awesome written all over it. Droves of English, Germany, USA, Spain, Portugal, Mexico fans are all going to be there. Seriously put the shit aside and think about it.

[MannyIsGod]

Notice how everything you posted had to do with oil money. We'll see how many western tourists travel to Qatar.

[lefty]

Notice how everything you posted had to do with oil money. We'll see how many western tourists travel to Qatar.
You will be surprised

I have no doubt it will be a success

[MannyIsGod]

Thats pretty much only you and the qatari people. I think even the FIFA officials doubt it at this time but at least they got paid.

[The_Worlds_finest]

You will be surprised

I have no doubt it will be a success

Im with you.

[lefty]

Im with you.
:tu


Thats pretty much only you and the qatari people. I think even the FIFA officials doubt it at this time but at least they got paid.
Damn, Manny are you afraid of planes? (not referring to 9/11, by the way)

It's time you take a year off to explore new horizons

[MannyIsGod]

Afraid of planes? No. Afraid of visiting places where there is some sand, more sand, some rocks, a lot of heat, crazy laws and pretty much nothing else? Yeah I guess.

I think visiting Russia would be cool though, so I think I'll just shoot for 2018.

[lefty]

Afraid of planes? No. Afraid of visiting places where there is some sand, more sand, some rocks, a lot of heat, crazy laws and pretty much nothing else? Yeah I guess.

I think visiting Russia would be cool though, so I think I'll just shoot for 2018.
:rolleyes

[MannyIsGod]

Did I mention sand? If not for oil money Qatar would be a smaller version of Yemen.

[lefty]

Did I mention sand? If not for oil money Qatar would be a smaller version of Yemen.
OMG

Tourists attacked by sand !!!!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Who said anything about being attacked by sand? OMG sever penalties for drinking beer!

[Bukefal]

Allthough I love World Cups, I started to really hate FIFA more and more over the years so I don't really give a f*ck anymore what they decide for or so called 'vote' for in their little mafia organization.

But, I like to see a WC in that part of the world and I like Qatar's plans. They have some awesome stadium designs. It's a shame the US did not get it, because football is getting more and more popular over there and hosting a world cup would increase that so much more.

[lefty]

Who said anything about being attacked by sand? OMG sever penalties for drinking beer!
They will allow people to drink

[The_Worlds_finest]

Six of the stadiums are in Doha. A City with a land mass(51 square miles) just slight larger than Manhattan island(33.7). This is going to be awesome.

[lefty]

Six of the stadiums are in Doha. A City with a land mass(51 square miles) just slight larger than Manhattan island(33.7). This is going to be awesome.
Damn, that should be good

[Spurologist]

Fucking Bullshit....:flipoff FIFA

[lefty]

Fucking Bullshit....:flipoff FIFA
:cry

[Spurologist]

chance for the first world cup in the middle east + MUCHO money won the bid

[lefty]

chance for the first world cup in the middle east + MUCHO money won the bid
:cry :cry

[Spurologist]

:cry :cry

http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/usa.worldcupblog.org/files/2007/11/sepp-blatter.jpg

[lefty]

http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/usa.worldcupblog.org/files/2007/11/sepp-blatter.jpg

Nice jonglage and passement de jambes

[ALVAREZ6]

a world cup tournament held in Qatar LOL

Antarctica 2026

[ALVAREZ6]

a world cup tournament held in Qatar LOL

Antarctica 2026

:cry:cry:cry

[Spurologist]

Congratulations Quatar....hopefully it was legitimate

[Spurologist]

:cry:cry:cry

:rollin

[FkLA]

WTF man. Qatar just ruined my plans for 2022 tbqh.

I honestly felt Qatar had no shot, and logically when you add up all the negatives they shouldnt have a shot. Temperatures, poor football tradition, conservative culture, small size, the issue of what happens to the stadiums after, etc...just goes to show people that money really does talk. Sep Blatter probably took the biggest paycheck of his life from them, good retirement plan on his part tbh. Russia is acceptable, although England wouldve been my pick. Honestly the countries with the biggest investments won, thats all it comes down to it. FIFA is about that money. Bullshit picks imho.

[ALVAREZ6]

WTF man. Qatar just ruined my plans for 2022 tbqh.

Nothing to get worked up about. To be honest, you aren't guaranteed to even be alive in 2022, no one is. It's 12 years away.

[TDMVPDPOY]

wheres the fairplay and promoting the game?

lol FIFA

[Spurologist]

what's done is done.....at the end of the day I still love football and here's to hoping Qatar is a great host :toast

[Spurologist]

US BLOG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FmWfayiHQ98/TPgxBU_rUqI/AAAAAAAABwo/GzD5mfacf-4/s400/paid-in-full.jpg

:lmao

[lefty]

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[lefty]

WTF man. Qatar just ruined my plans for 2022 tbqh.

I honestly felt Qatar had no shot, and logically when you add up all the negatives they shouldnt have a shot. Temperatures, poor football tradition, conservative culture, small size, the issue of what happens to the stadiums after, etc...just goes to show people that money really does talk. Sep Blatter probably took the biggest paycheck of his life from them, good retirement plan on his part tbh. Russia is acceptable, although England wouldve been my pick. Honestly the countries with the biggest investments won, thats all it comes down to it. FIFA is about that money. Bullshit picks imho.
Because money wasnt a factor when they picked the USA in 1994


GTFO

[Spurologist]

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ALJu7YPMNBI

remember this much?????? You should've nutted up and stopped :cry

[apalisoc_9]

I get Russia... but Qatar? I country that is not fond of drinking? Are they going to publicly stone the Holland Beer Girls when they show up in 2022?

What a fucking joke. Russia is the biggest non-football developed country in the world, so I understand wanting to host it there. Football is very undeveloped in the middle east too, but seriously... a country the size of Conneticut? With a population of the size of San Antonio?

But who are we kidding, we know FIFA is not a clean organization.

I think it is safe to say that russia is a footballing nation.

[sonic21]

I did in 98 :D

which games? Maybe we were in the same stadium. I saw France-Saudi arabia, Brazil-Chile and France-Brazil.

Russia is a good choice, their national team has potential. As for Quatar, their team is a joke right now, we'll see how it will go.

[diego]

Obviously both picks had a lot to do with oil money. but its definitely not the first time that money influences a world cup bid, or any organization for that matter.

I'm not wild about either of the picks, but I dont get some of the criticism. what was the USA football pedigree in 94? or japan and korea in 02? south africa in 2010? shit you could even argue what was mexico's pedigree in 70/86, or chile in 62, switzerland 54, sweden 58...

I don't like the fact that russia is huge and the time zones will likely be crazy, and I dont like the fact that qatar is hot as hell, though there have been several shorter cups and friendlies in the region and I dont recall issues in those cases.

as for the laws in the country, frankly manny, i'd be more concerned about the lack of law in russia than the law in qatar :lol though you do have a point about qatar lacking other attractions for tourists. In that sense I'd have a much harder time convincing my wife to go to Qatar for a WC than the US or Japan for a WC. As lefty says though this is a business, the main value for the host country is tourism and I dont think the Qatari govt is stupid enough to jeapordize their WC investment over some beer. If anything this should be good news for progressives in the middle east as it will show that a little beer and a little cleavage never hurt anyone (unless hooligans ruin it! :lol )

[lefty]

ALJu7YPMNBI

remember this much?????? You should've nutted up and stopped :cry
Yeah I remember that day

USA were super stressed until Donovan's goal :lmao

Good times :hat

And LMAO Cameroon :lol

[Spurologist]

Yeah I remember that day

USA were super stressed until Donovan's goal :lmao

Good times :hat

And LMAO Cameroon :lol

stressed but scoreboard = 1-0

good times indeed

Cameroon has been blowing it in the world cup c'est vrai but at least the whole nation didn't have to call a psychiatric doctor. :lmao

Next time don't :cry about the result or the constant replays when your team get savagely butthurt

[lefty]

stressed but scoreboard = 1-0

good times indeed

Cameroon has been blowing it in the world cup c'est vrai but at least the whole nation didn't have to call a psychiatric doctor. :lmao

Next time don't :cry about the result or the constant replays when your team get savagely butthurt
LOL

Me? Butthurt?

Why, when ?

I think Cameroonese are the ones who called a psychiatric doctor, because the expectations for Cameroon were higher than for Algeria
Eto = epic fail :lmao



Sounds like YOU are butthurt :lmao:lmao:lmao


QATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR


Bitches !!! :lobt::lobt2:

[MB20]

Soccer is an industry. Blatter sales the product to the best bidder.
Can you imagine how many millions of US Dollars FIFA is going to make with 2 countries without infraestructure?
They will build 12 stadiums in each country. 12 !!! It´s a business of billions of dollars.
FIFA´s bank accounts are happy.

And WC 2030 will be in Uruguay/Argentina. Book it. 100th aniversary of the WC. (First WC was played in Uruguay in 1930)

[urunobili]

And WC 2030 will be in Uruguay/Argentina. Book it. 100th aniversary of the WC. (First WC was played in Uruguay in 1930)

We presented the bid 2 years ago already :toast

[Spurstro]

FIFA has stated they won't allow joint bidding anymore.

No way it goes from Brazil, Russia, Qatar, Antarctica, to Uruguay.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if it was all about the money

why not just give it to the highest bidder...

[The_Worlds_finest]

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_images/real/1729.gif

[Spurologist]

LOL

Me? Butthurt?

Why, when ?

I think Cameroonese are the ones who called a psychiatric doctor, because the expectations for Cameroon were higher than for Algeria
Eto = epic fail :lmao



Sounds like YOU are butthurt :lmao:lmao:lmao


QATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR


Bitches !!! :lobt::lobt2:

just trying to point out the obvious hypocrisy on your posts. Don't pretend you weren't bitching about the constant replays of the goal. It just wasn't that Algeria lost, but the way they lost. That is automatic grounds for being Butthurt.

I've never denied about upset about Cameroon losing. I was fucking pissed but they always seem to disappoint.....apparently Algeria losing that way had no effect :lmao

QATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR


Bitches !!! :lobt::lobt2:

[cheguevara]

best way to avoid a terrorist WC attack, host the world cup at their house

[Spurstro]

FIFA already back pedaling...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/17/sepp-blatter-qatar

[SAtown]

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_images/real/1729.gif

:lmao

[SAtown]

FIFA already back pedaling...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/17/sepp-blatter-qatar

Wow, so they are going to have to rearrange the entire football calendar year to accommodate this little shit country with a WC??? Good going FIFA

[nkdlunch]

this is fucking ridiculous. those arabs must have shown the money.

[lefty]

http://images.memegenerator.net/Buzz-and-woody/ImageMacro/1885876/Butthurt-Butthurt-everywhere.jpg

[Spurstro]

this is fucking ridiculous. those arabs must have shown the money.

A respected NEWSWEEK reporter tweeted earlier this week that he had a solid source saying that bribes of 10 million were paid to voters.

http://www.matchfitusa.com/2010/12/alter-tweets-about-qatar-or-fart-in.html

Kind of surprised this hasn't received more play.

[lefty]

A respected NEWSWEEK reporter tweeted earlier this week that he had a solid source saying that bribes of 10 million were paid to voters.

http://www.matchfitusa.com/2010/12/alter-tweets-about-qatar-or-fart-in.html

Kind of surprised this hasn't received more play.
Because it's butthurtness induced BS

[Spurstro]

Because it's butthurtness induced BS


That's the thing...this guy is not a soccer lover. He wouldn't be butthurt about it. Maybe you are saying his source is butthurt?

Regardless, I'm curious what your response would be if it's revealed that bribes were taken for votes. If it turned out to be true would you still call people upset with FIFA butthurt?

[lefty]

That's the thing...this guy is not a soccer lover. He wouldn't be butthurt about it. Maybe you are saying his source is butthurt?

Regardless, I'm curious what your response would be if it's revealed that bribes were taken for votes. If it turned out to be true would you still call people upset with FIFA butthurt?
It happens everytime they select the WC host

Remember the 2006 WC scandal? South Africa should have won it

Scandal dogs bidding war over Soccer World Cup

By Chris Marsden



The world of international soccer has been gripped by scandal over the awarding to Germany of the right to host the 2006 World Cup. The decision was the result of a controversial vote by the sports ruling body, FIFA, last week, in which a German victory by 12 votes to 11 over rival South Africa was made possible by the abstention of Oceania Football Confederation (OFC) President Charlie Dempsey of New Zealand, who was delegated to vote for the African country after England dropped out. If Dempsey had voted for South Africa the ballot would have been level. FIFA President Sepp Blatter favoured South Africa and would have cast the tie-breaking vote.
This has produced outrage in South Africa and provoked an internal inquiry by FIFA into the bidding war for the rights to host the World Cup. South African President Thabo Mbeki told a business conference in Midrand, near Johannesburg, that the voting procedure “has got elements of dishonesty about it”. South African Sports Minister Ngconde Balfour called the decision “a loss by one vote because one old man from New Zealand decided not to vote”. “Africa is tired of being dictated to in processes like this,” he said. Nevertheless FIFA says the vote stands.
Dempsey has been cast as a pariah figure by much of the world's media, but the 78-year-old man seems to be guilty only of having gotten in out of his depth. His justification for abstaining speaks volumes about the character of a contest over what is certainly the world's richest and for many the most prestigious sporting event.
Dempsey's version of events at times reads like a scene from the Godfather depicting a Mafia turf-war that somehow found its way to the cutting-room floor. He said on Monday he abstained from the final ballot in Zurich because he feared a vote for either Germany or South Africa would be detrimental to soccer in the 11 Oceania nations, as a vote either way would have made enemies for the OFC in FIFA. He hoped the no-vote would ensure the OFC would make no enemies and stay friends with all concerned. “It had also been made clear to me by influential European interests that if I cast my vote in favour of South Africa, there would be adverse effects for OFC and FIFA.,” he explained. “I thought the Asians were going to vote for South Africa, apparently there was a change at five or six in the morning—everyone was voting for everyone at one stage.... They switched, but nothing has been aimed at them,” he continued.
Last weekend Dempsey, speaking to reporters in Singapore midway through his flight home, said, “The last two days have been something horrible.... Football is no longer a sport, it's a political scene.” He explained that he had been placed under “intolerable pressure ... not by the actual bidding people, but by people on the fringe and incessant phone calls I was receiving in my room and also the attempt to bribe me.” The New Zealander said he had received calls telling him how to vote: “I did get cranky calls and I was a bit concerned about it, but it wasn't life-threatening, but I was told what I had to do.”
Initially attention was focused on the activities of the German satirical magazine Titanic, which had faxed 8 members of the 24-member FIFA executive committee, including Dempsey, offering small bribes for backing Germany and arranging for hotel staff to slide faxes under delegates' doors around midnight.
Dempsey told the OFC Monday, “That's when I took real fright ... that night was a nightmare. Up until the whole of the pressure came on, I would've been voting for South Africa.” He had contacted his lawyers and other delegates to the OFC before he made his decision.
Despite the satirical hoax, there was nothing imagined about the pressure on Dempsey. He has also said that amongst the calls he had received were ones from former South African President Nelson Mandela and British Prime Minister Tony Blair. “I got contact from Mr. Blair and I've got to tell you something, I discovered I was in the world scene,” he said.
Dempsey's actions came at the end of a scramble over the right to an event that would bring money and political prestige for the host nation. Against a background of raging international power politics that even involved heads of state, and money being thrown around like water, FIFA delegates were forced to play often very low politics for very high stakes.
For many there were strong political considerations to register a vote for South Africa. It would be interpreted as an endorsement of Europe's staunchest ally on a continent that exports some of the world's finest soccer players, but has never hosted a World Cup tournament. Their hosting the event would also have counteracted complaints that the event is primarily Europe's baby.
The potential financial rewards for South Africa were high. Tickets for top games can fetch upwards of $100 and this all goes to the host country. Economists had forecast that a winning bid would create 130,000 jobs, boost gross domestic product by 2 percent and lead to $2.3 billion in foreign investment. When the bid failed the rand fell against the dollar and shares dropped by 0.7 percent.
The European soccer federation UEFA were always determined that the event be hosted in Germany, however, and the most powerful country in Europe did everything they could to make this happen. Their bid was led by footballing legend Franz Beckenbauer, who was joined by Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, tennis superstar Boris Becker and supermodel Claudia Schiffer. Beckenbauer argued that the fact that West Germany had hosted the 1974 World Cup was irrelevant because of its subsequent reunification with the former East Germany. He said of the bid's success that it “should be seen as greater than that of [Germany's] World Cup victories in 1974 and 1990.” A debate in parliament was interrupted for an announcement of Germany's victory.
The only fly in Germany's European ointment was England, which had made their own bid for the World Cup, having broken a “gentleman's agreement” with Germany to back them in return for its support for England hosting the 1996 European Cup. England squandered 10 million pounds, twice as much as anyone else, on schmoozing FIFA delegates and themselves at expensive parties, booking the best hotels and hiring villas. Just over £3 million came from the national lottery. It not only promised to help develop football in countries where votes could be won like Trinidad and Thailand, but even allowed top team Manchester United to withdraw from the national FA Cup and compete in the world club championship in Brazil in an attempt to win three South American FIFA votes.
Having angered the pro-German UEFA, however, the British received just two votes and were summarily knocked out. The behind-the-scenes politicking and the prestige attached to the World Cup bid was epitomised in a somewhat bitter editorial in the July 6 edition of Britain's leading business journal, the Financial Times, which feigned sympathy for South Africa as an excuse for anti-German rhetoric. FIFA's not voting for South Africa after Britain's elimination, “was a shame, a mistake, and a badly missed opportunity.... As for Germany's success, it restores football to the status once described by Gary Lineker, the former England player, as a game played by 11 men against 11 men, in which Germany always wins in the end.”

[MannyIsGod]

GG FIFA

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/qatar-arrests-trigger-world-cup-concerns/story-e6frg6so-1226041808289

In before



LOL Butthurt

[lefty]

http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4780767/oh-wow-he-really-mad.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Xzibit-WTF

[ALVAREZ6]

:lol

FUCK QATAR, FUCK FIFA, FUCK BLATTER, FUCK THE NEXT PIECE OF SHIT ELECTED.

[lefty]

LOL Atlanta bombings during the Olympics

[MannyIsGod]

Allegations of money crossing hands are now blowing up. As if anyone didn't know. :rolleyes

In before Lefty says I'm butthurt an then says Osama didn't do it.

[IronMaxipad]

6 FIFA members accused of accepting bribes for 2018/2022 bids

LONDON (AP)—Soccer’s governing body was hit with new corruption allegations Tuesday when six FIFA executive committee members were accused of receiving or demanding bribes during bidding for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

Issa Hayatou of Cameroon and Jacques Anouma of the Ivory Coast were allegedly paid $1.5 million to vote for Qatar, according to evidence submitted to a British parliamentary inquiry by The Sunday Times newspaper.

The Gulf nation beat the United States in the final round of voting in December for the 2022 tournament. Qatar’s soccer federation released a statement later Tuesday, denying the “serious and baseless” allegations that will “remain unproven because they are false.”

The Culture, Media and Sport Committee of the House of Commons also heard from the former head of England’s 2018 bid, who described the conduct of executive committee members Jack Warner, Nicolas Leoz, Ricardo Teixeira and Worawi Makudi in the 2018 contest as “improper and unethical.”

The parliamentary panel is looking into England’s failed bid for the World Cup as part of a wider inquiry into soccer governance.

In Zurich, FIFA President Sepp Blatter said he will ask for evidence that supports the claims and forward any allegations to the FIFA ethics committee.

“I cannot say they are all angels or they are all devils,” he said of the executive members.

“We must have the evidence and then we will act immediately against all those (who) would be breach of the ethical code rules,” Blatter added.

Referring to his bid for re-election next month against Mohammed bin Hammam of Qatar, Blatter said: “I’m fighting to clear FIFA, I’m fighting to clean FIFA.”

The bidding contest was rocked even before the vote when The Sunday Times published in October details of an undercover investigation that led to two of FIFA’s 24 executive committee members being suspended.

Amos Adamu of Nigeria was found guilty by FIFA’s ethics court of soliciting bribes from undercover reporters, while Reynald Temarii of Tahiti was banned for breaching rules on confidentiality and loyalty.

The British newspaper sent further evidence—which it did not publish at the time for legal reasons—to the British committee on Monday to be made public using parliamentary privilege.

Two of the paper’s investigative journalists told the committee in a letter that a whistleblower who had worked for the Qatari bid told them in December that the country “had paid $1.5 million to two FIFA ExCo members—Hayatou and Jacques Anouma of the Ivory Coast—to secure their votes.”

Reporters Jonathan Calvert and Claire Newell added that “a similar deal had been struck with Amos Adamu, although he was prevented from voting because he was suspended following our original article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-wcup-votecorruption

[lefty]

It happens at every WC bid :lmao

theymad#

[Muser]

Fifa requests FA evidence
Valcke expresses deep concern in letter following Triesman claims



Fifa has expressed its 'extreme concern' at the latest allegations of World Cup bidding corruption and asked the Football Association to provide a full report of the claims.

Former FA and England 2018 chairman Lord Triesman alleged in Parliament on Tuesday that four Fifa members had asked for money or favours in return for World Cup votes.

Two other Fifa members were separately alleged to have been paid to vote for Qatar's 2022 bid.

Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke has now contacted the FA to request evidence.

"In his letter to the FA, the FIFA secretary general expresses the extreme concern of FIFA and the FIFA President at the latest allegations questioning the integrity of some FIFA Executive Committee members in connection with the bidding procedure for the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cups," read a Fifa statement.

Thorough examination

"He adds that to be in a position to examine the situation thoroughly and with clear-sightedness, FIFA asks the FA to submit a complete report from Lord David Triesman, by means of which the latter would relate his declarations fully and provide any and all documentary evidence at his disposal."

The allegations of bribes paid for votes for Qatar were contained in a submission to the culture, media and sport committee by the Sunday Times.

The Fifa statement went on: "The FIFA secretary general has also sent a letter to The Sunday Times to ask the newspaper to provide FIFA with any piece of evidence with regard to the statements made to MP John Whittingdale.

"The Sunday Times had already provided world's football governing body with all of the evidence and documentation at its disposal. Nevertheless, FIFA asks the English newspaper to submit as soon as possible any other piece of evidence that it may be in possession of and which has not yet been sent to FIFA.

"In particular, reference is made in the letter to the allegations regarding a 'whistleblower who had worked with the Qatar bid', who allegedly made some declarations regarding the matter in question."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12098_6927062,00.html

[Muser]

Nice to see the FA doing something, but it's not like anything will come of it.

[MannyIsGod]

It happens at every WC bid :lmao

theymad#

Whats your point? It shouldn't happen. If this helps clean it up then this is a good thing. You're so predictable.

[lefty]

Whats your point? It shouldn't happen. If this helps clean it up then this is a good thing. You're so predictable.
Oh noes

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol my govt waste 35-45m tax payers money tendering the event which they had no shot of hosting.....

[MannyIsGod]

Lefty shit like this is why you're considered a joke on this site. You have the discussion skills of a retarded five year old.

[lefty]

lefty shit like this is why you're considered a joke on this site. You have the discussion skills of a retarded five year old.
zomg!
Lulz !!!!!!

[velik_m]

Fifa president Sepp Blatter under investigation

Fifa has opened ethics proceedings against its president, Sepp Blatter.

The action follows a charge by Mohamed Bin Hammam, his rival in next week's presidency election, that Blatter knew about alleged cash payments.

Bin Hammam and vice-president Jack Warner will also be at Sunday's hearing to answer charges of bribery.

More... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13574338.stm)

[lefty]

See?


It's a good thing after all


At least it will lead to Blatter being fired :tu

So stop bitching

[ALVAREZ6]

FIFA is corrupt as hell, fuck them, they make horrible decision.


lol butthurt
lol








I hope this investigation is successful.

[lefty]

FIFA is corrupt as hell, fuck them, they make horrible decision.










I hope this investigation is successful.
Me too

I'm fucking tired of Sepp Blatter

We need video replays !

[ALVAREZ6]

I'm fucking tired of Sepp Blatter


lol butthurt

[lefty]

lol butthurt
butthurt because.....

[rascal]

What?

Mexico World Cup in 86?

Heat and altitude



Hello

Phoenix Houston and Dallas are not cool.

[ALVAREZ6]

butthurt because.....

For wanting a FIFA improvement



lol butthurt

[lefty]

For wanting a FIFA improvement



lol butthurt
So you think video replay is a bad idea?

[ALVAREZ6]

So you think video replay is a bad idea?

No, I just think you're butthurt on this issue.

lol butthurt



Very similar to your point of view 2 pages back:



So








much






























butthurt



























:lmao

[lefty]

No, I just think you're butthurt on this issue.

lol butthurt



Very similar to your point of view 2 pages back:
Im not butthurt

























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Qatar






























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won the bid




































bitches !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!













































:lmao

[scott]

LOL the two candidates for FIFA president under investigation for corruption. Basically, whoever wins the presidency will be exonerated and the other will be banned and FIFA will continue it's corrupt ways thinking they've managed to appear legit. All the top nations (economically, not football-wise) should withdraw from FIFA and start their own org. Tell Russia they can still host 2018 and offer one of the other Asian powers 2022 to win their support, US in 2026 to win CONCACAF (outside of the shitty corrupt islands) support, Argentina/Uraguay gets 2030 to win S American support and kthxbai to FIFA

[MannyIsGod]

Me too

I'm fucking tired of Sepp Blatter

We need video replays !

LOL Butthurt.

SO MUCH BUTTHURT.

[MannyIsGod]

Qatar is about as sandy and worthless as Algeria so maybe Lefty's just getting his hopes up. The difference is Algeria is worthless without oil money.

[lefty]

Qatar is about as sandy and worthless as Algeria so maybe Lefty's just getting his hopes up. The difference is Algeria is worthless without oil money.

And USA is worthless without starting wars in other countries

But hey, life isnt supposed to be easy

Dont worry, you'll get another shot at the WC :lmao

[diego]

The US hosted a cup quite recently in WC/fifa standards, there are other much more deserving countries, simple as that. England has a much, much better argument to host its second WC than the US does, really the only argument for the US is money but as the Qatar bid shows a WC will make money regardless of where it is hosted.

As for FIFA corruption, of course it sucks and who wouldnt like reform, but it happens in every pro sports league. There is too much easy money for execs to make from the fans, as long as that's the case there will be corruption in sport.

If Switzerland, Sweden, Chile, Japan/Korea, and South Africa can host a cup (all smaller countries, some with low footie culture/pedigree), then so can Qatar. From a heat/environmental conditions standpoint, the eastern coast of the americas (Brazil, Mexico, US, Argentina/Uruguay WC's I'm looking at you) is just as taxing for a player as the middle east- maybe even moreso, because to maximize the TV dollar they have to play at midday on the eastern coast of the americas, but in the middle east they will likely play at night.

Football always has and always will be the world game, using cultural reasons to disqualify the arabs is weak. did they make bribes? Without having seen a shred of evidence and not following the news closely, I would bet my left nut they did. But do you fools think the same didnt happen in every other WC bid, in the olympics bids, or even when some corp is looking for a HQ or a new factory, or when the local govt near you needs to allocate govt funds. thats life, I'm not saying people should just look the other way, but it looks pathetic to get zealous and want to disqualify one process when you dont do the same the zillion other times it happens around you...

[symple19]

The US hosted a cup quite recently in WC/fifa standards, there are other much more deserving countries, simple as that. England has a much, much better argument to host its second WC than the US does, really the only argument for the US is money but as the Qatar bid shows a WC will make money regardless of where it is hosted.

As for FIFA corruption, of course it sucks and who wouldnt like reform, but it happens in every pro sports league. There is too much easy money for execs to make from the fans, as long as that's the case there will be corruption in sport.

If Switzerland, Sweden, Chile, Japan/Korea, and South Africa can host a cup (all smaller countries, some with low footie culture/pedigree), then so can Qatar. From a heat/environmental conditions standpoint, the eastern coast of the americas (Brazil, Mexico, US, Argentina/Uruguay WC's I'm looking at you) is just as taxing for a player as the middle east- maybe even moreso, because to maximize the TV dollar they have to play at midday on the eastern coast of the americas, but in the middle east they will likely play at night.

Football always has and always will be the world game, using cultural reasons to disqualify the arabs is weak. did they make bribes? Without having seen a shred of evidence and not following the news closely, I would bet my left nut they did. But do you fools think the same didnt happen in every other WC bid, in the olympics bids, or even when some corp is looking for a HQ or a new factory, or when the local govt near you needs to allocate govt funds. thats life, I'm not saying people should just look the other way, but it looks pathetic to get zealous and want to disqualify one process when you dont do the same the zillion other times it happens around you...

nice take

[MannyIsGod]

Using cultural reasons is weak? So when does a cultural reason cross the line?

[lefty]

The US hosted a cup quite recently in WC/fifa standards, there are other much more deserving countries, simple as that. England has a much, much better argument to host its second WC than the US does, really the only argument for the US is money but as the Qatar bid shows a WC will make money regardless of where it is hosted.

As for FIFA corruption, of course it sucks and who wouldnt like reform, but it happens in every pro sports league. There is too much easy money for execs to make from the fans, as long as that's the case there will be corruption in sport.

If Switzerland, Sweden, Chile, Japan/Korea, and South Africa can host a cup (all smaller countries, some with low footie culture/pedigree), then so can Qatar. From a heat/environmental conditions standpoint, the eastern coast of the americas (Brazil, Mexico, US, Argentina/Uruguay WC's I'm looking at you) is just as taxing for a player as the middle east- maybe even moreso, because to maximize the TV dollar they have to play at midday on the eastern coast of the americas, but in the middle east they will likely play at night.

Football always has and always will be the world game, using cultural reasons to disqualify the arabs is weak. did they make bribes? Without having seen a shred of evidence and not following the news closely, I would bet my left nut they did. But do you fools think the same didnt happen in every other WC bid, in the olympics bids, or even when some corp is looking for a HQ or a new factory, or when the local govt near you needs to allocate govt funds. thats life, I'm not saying people should just look the other way, but it looks pathetic to get zealous and want to disqualify one process when you dont do the same the zillion other times it happens around you...

Nice post

[Muser]

Rofl the UK didn't deserve it. Our bid was just Beckham crying about how England needs a big occasion like this, even though we have the Olympics next year.

[diego]

I've been out of town on a mini vacation, but to follow up on my point...

disqualifying Qatar for being culturally backwards by western standards (homophobia, women's rights, alcohol consumption I believe are the main arguments against) is weak because those things dont have anything to do with football. When western countries had those same problems (homophobia, women's rights), they still had world cups. Hosting a world cup will help qatar and other arab nations "catch up" on these issues, its not like they are wavering to change but are going to back off because they've been validated by a world cup. On the contrary, a massive influx of foreigners (that arent soldiers!) will only help the region grow up and become more integrated to the world community.

The only valid reasons IMO to really object to a country's bid would be genocide, war, or a dictatorship that oppresses, censors, steals from its people, or destroys the environment. The only cultural reason I can think of right now might be cannibalism, anarchy, or institutionalized pedophilia, none of which is the case here (or ever).

And even if that were the case and Qatar were so backwards that they dont deserve a WC, England would still be more deserving than the US. Really, I dont see any good reason for the US hosting another WC for the next 20 years

[MannyIsGod]

Diego, I disagree with you on the top portions. I believe being ass backwards is legit reason to deny the cup.

[lefty]

I believe being ass backwards is legit reason to deny the cup.
That would explain why Manny hasn't won anything

[diego]

well, another thing to consider is that qatar is more progressive than other ME states. AFAIK, they dont practice female circumcision and actually allow women to vote; they are also home base for Al Jazeera, which i believe has played an important role in modernizing the region. I'll stick to my position that giving them a WC will help liberalize them more and show other ME states that by opening up and embracing human rights they will be accepted by the world community.

[ALVAREZ6]

lol....so they were just discussing the Qatar WC on Pardon the Interruption, and apparently the groups planning/constructing the stadiums have basically said..."yeah, it's way too fucking hot in Qatar. This artificial cloud shit probably isn't going to work out very well."

...oh wow...what a shocker!!!! it's very, very, very hot in Qatar????

...you're telling me that artificial, climate-cooling clouds over stadiums may NOT be readily available, efficient, and practical?????? WOW!! Who would have known??!?!?!!?







/sarcasm

They said they will have to consider playing 3 30-minute periods a la hockey, even in indoor stadiums, because it's still too damn hot inside.


Great fucking work FIFA, you guys are pure professionals.

[ALVAREZ6]

lol butthurt

[scott]

Sepp Blatter's legacy: spread the game to new parts of the world by changing the rules of the game to something else entirely.

[ALVAREZ6]

Sepp Blatter's legacy: bring in that skrilla baby, :greedy:greedy:greedy.

[ALVAREZ6]

Blatter awaiting new evidence
July 29, 2011

FIFA president Sepp Blatter says he does not have any intention of taking the 2022 World Cup away from Qatar but could reconsider if new evidence comes to light.

Serious questions have been raised over FIFA's decision to award the World Cup to Qatar, with the bribery charges brought against Qatari Mohammed Bin Hammam adding to the initial concerns over the climate and local laws.

Blatter has announced that a Solutions Committee, featuring Nobel Peace Prize winner Henry Kissinger, will launch an investigation to clean up the governing body and has now vowed to take action if suitable evidence arises.

"Now, at this moment, we are not touching the Qatar World Cup, but we are going step by step into the matters we have to realise and if somewhere through this Solutions Committee they should say we have to have a look at that, then we will do that," he said.

Newly-elected FIFA executive committee member Theo Zwanziger earlier called for the 2022 decision to be reopened, but Blatter added: "When I spoke with Zwanziger he realised it's too easy to say we should re-open things. He knows he has to first come to FIFA with the evidence and everybody must produce evidence.

"Concerning the sponsors, I haven't received any, let's say, reservations made by any sponsor of FIFA that we should change anything with Qatar yet."

[ALVAREZ6]

Blatter awaiting new evidence
July 29, 2011

FIFA president Sepp Blatter says he does not have any intention of taking the 2022 World Cup away from Qatar but could reconsider if new evidence comes to light.

Serious questions have been raised over FIFA's decision to award the World Cup to Qatar, with the bribery charges brought against Qatari Mohammed Bin Hammam adding to the initial concerns over the climate and local laws.

Blatter has announced that a Solutions Committee, featuring Nobel Peace Prize winner Henry Kissinger, will launch an investigation to clean up the governing body and has now vowed to take action if suitable evidence arises.

"Now, at this moment, we are not touching the Qatar World Cup, but we are going step by step into the matters we have to realise and if somewhere through this Solutions Committee they should say we have to have a look at that, then we will do that," he said.

Newly-elected FIFA executive committee member Theo Zwanziger earlier called for the 2022 decision to be reopened, but Blatter added: "When I spoke with Zwanziger he realised it's too easy to say we should re-open things. He knows he has to first come to FIFA with the evidence and everybody must produce evidence.

"Concerning the sponsors, I haven't received any, let's say, reservations made by any sponsor of FIFA that we should change anything with Qatar yet."
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/938224/fifa-will-only-reconsider-qatar-with-new-evidence?cc=5901

[Spurstro]

Future FIFA prez Platini backing winter world cup.

"If we play in winter, not a problem to organise it. How can people go to Qatar in 50 degrees in June? If the people can't come to enjoy it it's not good."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5g_TyQUtq4cMOg1ScA0x7PPLmfK7Q?docId=N02169513 22827747907A

[lefty]

:lmao :lmao :lmao