Jason Thompson or Anthony Randolph for Blair?

[Srupsog]

It seems most Spurs fans agree that Blair is not working out next to TD. Would it be a good idea to trade Blair for either Jason Thompson or Anthony Randolph.
Both have been rumored to be available via trade. Both can do everything blair does plus they are more athletic, more taller and longer, can block shots, can guard mobile 4's also 5's, and they can hit jumpshots. They only thing I can give Blair over these guys is that he's probably tougher.

SO would acquiring Jason thompson or Anthony Randolph for Blair better for the spurs?

[Mel_13]

At least use this first before starting a dozen more threads:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

[Cessation]

Yes, but only if bonner is included.

[8FOR!3]

I'd want Jason Thompson. I don't like Randolph's attitude. Hell of a player/athlete though.

[EricD]

What about Favors???

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

I bet they still are interested.

What you think?

Blair and Bonner for Favors?

[Mel_13]

What about Favors???

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

I bet they still are interested.

What you think?

Blair and Bonner for Favors?

:lol

Hell, why not Dice and Bonner for Favors and Lopez?

[5in10]

What about Favors???

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

I bet they still are interested.

What you think?

Blair and Bonner for Favors?

That's a joke.

[8FOR!3]

What about Favors???

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

I bet they still are interested.

What you think?

Blair and Bonner for Favors?

Cause New Jersey would do that and all...

[ChumpDumper]

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am:rollin

[EricD]

Cause New Jersey would do that and all...


They just might. You don't know, your name isn't Billy King now is it?

Nets need a shooting 4 butter and egg man, like Bonner, to spread the floor so Devin Harris, Brook Lopez and Anthony Marrow can have more room to operate. As it stands, Nets are 26th in the league in scoring at 94.6 points per game. With Bonner that can go up at least 10 points with the room he creates.

At the same time they would be getting a much needed energy guy at the 4 in DeJuan Blair to come off the bench.

Now the question is-- Would Pop do it? I doubt it-- Manu, Tim, Tony and crew need Bonner out there to score because he brings his man away from the paint. Underrated value there according to Pop.

So yeah I doubt Spurs would do it.

Spreading the floor> Interior Defense according to Pop post May 06'.

[DJB]

randolph

[jjktkk]

What about Favors???

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

I bet they still are interested.

What you think?

Blair and Bonner for Favors?

Funny guy. Stop it.

[angelbelow]

What about Favors???

Some of you probably aren't as aware as I am, but I remember hearing Spurs were interested in Favors prior to the draft.

I bet they still are interested.

What you think?

Blair and Bonner for Favors?

If Favors cant even get playing time under AJ, what makes you think he'll crack the rotation for Pop? If pop can gurantee that he'll play favors 50 minutes every game I'd do this trade in a heart beat.

[024]

wtf, no way in hell the nets are going to trade their 3rd pick after only two months.

[Bruno]

Thompson is now starting for Sacramento. He is significantly less available than one week ago when he was getting DNP CD.

Anthony Randolph is a player intriguing with his trade value at an all time low. He is deep in D'Antoni's doghouse and doesn't even get playing time when Turiaf is injured. He is at the top of my list of realistic trade targets.

And there are trade rules. Blair salary isn't enough to get Randolph or Thompson. On the other, Bonner salary is enough and he will be eligible to be trade on December 15th. A trade I would like to see is one around Bonner for Randolph. If it's a two team trade, Knicks will need to add a filler to match salaries but it wouldn't be a problem. I would even like this trade if Spurs had to add a first round pick to sweeten the deal.

[SenorSpur]

Thompson is now starting for Sacramento. He is significantly less available than one week ago when he was getting DNP CD.

Anthony Randolph is a player intriguing with his trade value at an all time low. He is deep in D'Antoni's doghouse and doesn't even get playing time when Turiaf is injured. He is at the top of my list of realistic trade targets.

And there are trade rules. Blair salary isn't enough to get Randolph or Thompson. On the other, Bonner salary is enough and he will be eligible to be trade on December 15th. A trade I would like to see is one around Bonner for Randolph. If it's a two team trade, Knicks will need to add a filler to match salaries but it wouldn't be a problem. I would even like this trade if Spurs had to add a first round pick to sweeten the deal.

DanTony doesn't like any player that can't shoot a 3-ball.

[jimo2305]

blair and trade shouldnt be in the same sentence.. dude's grabbing boards and makin' smart plays down low.. we all have our good and bad days.. calm down

[Mal]

They just might. You don't know, your name isn't Billy King now is it?

Nets need a shooting 4 butter and egg man, like Bonner, to spread the floor so Devin Harris, Brook Lopez and Anthony Marrow can have more room to operate. As it stands, Nets are 26th in the league in scoring at 94.6 points per game. With Bonner that can go up at least 10 points with the room he creates.

At the same time they would be getting a much needed energy guy at the 4 in DeJuan Blair to come off the bench.

Now the question is-- Would Pop do it? I doubt it-- Manu, Tim, Tony and crew need Bonner out there to score because he brings his man away from the paint. Underrated value there according to Pop.

So yeah I doubt Spurs would do it.

Spreading the floor> Interior Defense according to Pop post May 06'.

Really ? Fresh 3th draft pick for Red Rocket and guy who they passed 2 times in draft a year ago ??:lmao

[Seventyniner]

Thompson is now starting for Sacramento. He is significantly less available than one week ago when he was getting DNP CD.

Anthony Randolph is a player intriguing with his trade value at an all time low. He is deep in D'Antoni's doghouse and doesn't even get playing time when Turiaf is injured. He is at the top of my list of realistic trade targets.

And there are trade rules. Blair salary isn't enough to get Randolph or Thompson. On the other, Bonner salary is enough and he will be eligible to be trade on December 15th. A trade I would like to see is one around Bonner for Randolph. If it's a two team trade, Knicks will need to add a filler to match salaries but it wouldn't be a problem. I would even like this trade if Spurs had to add a first round pick to sweeten the deal.

But why on God's green earth would the Knicks do that trade?

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the "filler" in your trade was none other than Roger Mason, Jr.? Mason + Randolph for Bonner works under the CBA. I'd love to see the simultaneous meltdown/blowup of ST if that happened.

[dbestpro]

blair and trade shouldnt be in the same sentence.. dude's grabbing boards and makin' smart plays down low.. we all have our good and bad days.. calm down

At this point in time I feel just the opposite. Blair might have nights where he grabs 10 boards and nights when he disappears. Even if he were to average double digit boards he is too big of a liability on interior defense. Every big looks like Karl Malone against Blair as they just score over the top.

Blair works hard and plays hard which Pop rewards with playing time. In the long run this is our achilles heel. Because Blair can not overcome his height issue. I would rather see Blair traded now because I do not think his value will ever be better.

[silverblk mystix]

It seems most Spurs fans agree that Blair is not working out next to TD. Would it be a good idea to trade Blair for either Jason Thompson or Anthony Randolph.
Both have been rumored to be available via trade. Both can do everything blair does plus they are more athletic, more taller and longer, can block shots, can guard mobile 4's also 5's, and they can hit jumpshots. They only thing I can give Blair over these guys is that he's probably tougher.

SO would acquiring Jason thompson or Anthony Randolph for Blair better for the spurs?

Thompson/Randolph for Blair....NO.


Thompson/Randolph for Bonner...Absolutely.

[bluebellmaniac]

I can see with Bonner being 30 and Randolph only 21 that this would help continue the youth movement for the Spurs. If Randolph develops, then another coup for the Spurs. But I question if Randolph is Spurs material. I haven't read anything about him having the heart for the game, the drive to improve or the team mentality. I hear alot about his athleticism and his better offensive game. But wasn't that Mahinmi? Wasn't he the Savior with these same attributes? That didn't work out either.

Also, would Randolph contribute much, if anything, this year? Ours is not the simplest system to learn and Bonner's been here long enough to know where he needs to be (on the perimeter). Randolph would play more interior. The placement and movement on the interior is a lot more complicated in this system than Bonner's role on the perimeter. If we get Randolph then I think we're shorting ourselves 1 big for this year, because there is no way he is going to play. Hopefully he learns enough to contribute next year... but we know how that goes. Hell, Splitter isn't even playing much yet... and we'd expect Randolph to play?

Is Randolph a step up over Bonner's 3-pt shooting? Pop is going to want that "Horry" big on the 3-pt line. I don't think Randolph does that.

Hoopshype (I know, horrible source...) has the Knicks team salary at $58M, so if we did do a trade, couldn't we just do a straight up Randolph-Bonner trade (with a 1st round pick thrown in so NY can make a charge at Melo)? Wouldn't this just generate a trade exception for the spurs? We could use a little more breathing room under the luxury tax threshold.

Overall, if there was only some way to trade for Randolph and then ship him to Europe for 3 years (LOL!) and then bring him back once his game and his fundamentals has developed, then that would be an ideal trade imo. But that isn't reality. Can't happen, won't happen. If we trade a piece that is contributing more than he ever has, Bonner, for someone who will ride the bench this whole year and maybe next and maybe never really develops into who we want (why is he something more than Mahinmi?)... then I don't see the point. I thought we were also trying to get a ring w Timmy this year, not sell our working pieces for a project that can contribute (maybe) 2 or 3 years down the road. I thought that was why we stashed 2nd round pics in Europe. I haven't seen Randolph play, so maybe he is more than Mahinmi... he would have to be.

So anyway, my $0.02.

[bluebellmaniac]

As for trading Randolph for Blair, all I can say is WOW! What role changes have occurred since last year when Blair was untouchable and everyone wanted to trade Bonner for a yo-yo and a pack of gum. Seems like there are threads for trading Blair every time I log onto ST. Blair has heart and drive and the things that make a player great. Don't jump off that bandwagon so soon. Hell, when Tony or Manu have a couple bad games we see the same thing with them... very tough fan base... LOL!

As Bruno said, salary on a Blair trade wouldn't work anyway. We'd go over the luxury tax with that trade.

[Bruno]

But why on God's green earth would the Knicks do that trade?

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the "filler" in your trade was none other than Roger Mason, Jr.? Mason + Randolph for Bonner works under the CBA. I'd love to see the simultaneous meltdown/blowup of ST if that happened.

It's a lot of wishful thinking but it isn't a that crazy scenario. I don't know if you have followed Knicks this year but Randolph doesn't play, and, unless his situation changed, he has no future with Knicks. They could very well trade him soon and Bonner is a player who could help them to make the playoffs.

You can also imagine a scenario where Denver rather have a late first round pick than Randolph in a Melo trade. A trade like that would be nice for all part involved:
Knicks trade Curry+Gallinari+Randolph+Mason+cash for Melo+Balkman+Bonner
Nuggets trade Melo+Balkman for Curry+Gallinari+1st+cash
Spurs trade Bonner+first for Randolph+Mason

[DPG21920]

Spurs are not trading Bonner. There is absolutely nothing that points to that. They overpay Bonner in the offseason. They continue to give him big minutes. He will never be in the dog house or on the trading block.

The Spurs value him as a system player much more than any other team values him.

[BackHome]

As for trading Randolph for Blair, all I can say is WOW! What role changes have occurred since last year when Blair was untouchable and everyone wanted to trade Bonner for a yo-yo and a pack of gum. Seems like there are threads for trading Blair every time I log onto ST. Blair has heart and drive and the things that make a player great. Don't jump off that bandwagon so soon. Hell, when Tony or Manu have a couple bad games we see the same thing with them... very tough fan base... LOL!

As Bruno said, salary on a Blair trade wouldn't work anyway. We'd go over the luxury tax with that trade.


Blair is a nice guy but he has size issues and you know what they say "size does matter" lol.. But serious when they play with teams that have bigs like the Wolves he pretty much can't do anything and then when we play teams that are very atheltic and like to run he can't keep up. So he is to short and to slow to be a starter for our team.

The reason most people say keep him is because he is very cheap and is pretty good when going against other teams second unit.

As far as Bonner the guy should be playing when he is hitting the outside shot but like Blair he is not athletic enough to defend against other teams bigs or teams that are more athletic. So when he ain't hitting his shot Bench him Pop!

[ElNono]

Spurs are not trading Bonner. There is absolutely nothing that points to that. They overpay Bonner in the offseason. They continue to give him big minutes. He will never be in the dog house or on the trading block.

The Spurs value him as a system player much more than any other team values him.

According to Pop, he's the best shooter he ever coached. With that in mind, you're spot on. Heck, Finley wasn't even in the trading block when he wasn't getting much minutes either.

[5in10]

Last year in one of thorpes chats(who is the only espn analyst I respect) said that he always though if Anthony Randolph came to San Antonio that he would be a hall of famer.

[Seventyniner]

It's a lot of wishful thinking but it isn't a that crazy scenario. I don't know if you have followed Knicks this year but Randolph doesn't play, and, unless his situation changed, he has no future with Knicks. They could very well trade him soon and Bonner is a player who could help them to make the playoffs.

You can also imagine a scenario where Denver rather have a late first round pick than Randolph in a Melo trade. A trade like that would be nice for all part involved:
Knicks trade Curry+Gallinari+Randolph+Mason+cash for Melo+Balkman+Bonner
Nuggets trade Melo+Balkman for Curry+Gallinari+1st+cash
Spurs trade Bonner+first for Randolph+Mason

I haven't watched the Knicks, but I did check Randolph's game log. He must really be in the doghouse, or more clueless in a basketball IQ sense (to overcome his crazy talent) than any of us think.

That trade looks great for NY and SA, but Denver would both have to be 100% convinced that Melo would otherwise leave in free agency, and love Gallinari (if Melo leaves, he's an expiring contract anyway so Curry is only there for filler). Would the Knicks be willing to toss in their own first-rounder (going to Denver, of course)?

[5in10]

Wayne (San Antonio, TX)


Richard Jefferson for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph?


David Thorpe
(12:39 PM)
I tweeted this summer that if AR played in San Antonio, he'd end up being a Hall of Famer.

This is from last years chat. As a person, coach and talent scout, I really respect David Thorpes views, and anyone who reads his chats would agree. As much as I love Blair, AR upside is crazy. If POP could get his head straight, which I believe he and the team could, we have ourselves a weapon. With our new uptempo pace AR would thrive as long as he played within himself. If we just told him to get rebounds and play D I think it would improve our starting line up d immensely, with the way he gets weak side blocks. Not too sure what his jump shot within 15ft is like, but I think his shot is probably further along than blairs. I also believe he would be a solid defender to throw at the dirks/odoms of the league. Again this all depends on his attitude, but just look how Tyrus Thomas turned out for Charlotte when he got a coach he respects.

[tav1]

It's a lot of wishful thinking but it isn't a that crazy scenario. I don't know if you have followed Knicks this year but Randolph doesn't play, and, unless his situation changed, he has no future with Knicks. They could very well trade him soon and Bonner is a player who could help them to make the playoffs.

You can also imagine a scenario where Denver rather have a late first round pick than Randolph in a Melo trade. A trade like that would be nice for all part involved:
Knicks trade Curry+Gallinari+Randolph+Mason+cash for Melo+Balkman+Bonner
Nuggets trade Melo+Balkman for Curry+Gallinari+1st+cash
Spurs trade Bonner+first for Randolph+Mason

If you're the Spurs, I'm not sure that's enough. Randolph I can buy, but Mason is worthless to them. In his limited playing time with the Knicks, he's played just as poorly as he did with the Spurs during his second season in San Antonio.

If you're the Spurs, and you're giving up Bonner and a 1st, I think you have to ask for at least Anthony Randolph and Bill Walker in return. Or maybe you really get gutsy and ask for Randolph and Chandler for Bonner, Quinn and a first. NY would probably balk--but maybe not if the ultimate return is Melo--in which case you settle on Walker rather than Chandler.

I might give two firsts if it landed both Chandler and Randolph, who would dramatically improve the Spurs defense, give them more scoring (but, unfortunately, not spacing), and at 23 and 21 years old they are likely better than anyone the Spurs would get in the next few drafts.

[Chomag]

I agree, I always thought Randolph would be a positive fit with the Spurs. He has seemed to have some issues but Spurs organization would be a perfect place for him to mature mentally and blossom as a player.

That is if Pop played him of course.

[Darkwaters]

Randolph seems like an interesting player. But the guy is in his third season in the NBA and is 1-11 career from the 3. Yes, hes only ever made one triple. Were he a better three point shooter, or one at all, I'd consider him. Hes got a nice skill set and size. But that lack of range probably takes him off the radar.

[Bruno]

That trade looks great for NY and SA, but Denver would both have to be 100% convinced that Melo would otherwise leave in free agency, and love Gallinari (if Melo leaves, he's an expiring contract anyway so Curry is only there for filler). Would the Knicks be willing to toss in their own first-rounder (going to Denver, of course)?

The earliest first round pick Knicks can trade is a 2014 one.

It's sure that it is a poor return for a player like Melo and that Denver will only do this deal if they think he will leave them this summer. However, something hidden in this trade is that Denver will save a lot of money by doing it. Between less luxury tax, less salary paid, the cash send form NY, Balkman dumped and Curry salary still being mainly paid, Denver will save more than $10M this year.

[DynastySpurs210]

blair and trade shouldnt be in the same sentence.. dude's grabbing boards and makin' smart plays down low.. we all have our good and bad days.. calm down
Like what he said

[BackHome]

I love Blair he is a fell good story but everyone knows that he is not a starting player. He has no outside game as of yet and we really don't know how long he will be able to play because of his knee issues.

As far as talent AR is way ahead of Blair the only issue is AR smart enough to make it in Pop system and can Pop make him into the All Star that he should be?

[The Truth #6]

If we could trade Blair for a great talent that would be a good fit here, then sure, that makes sense. But all this talk of trading Blair just to trade him is silly in my opinion. The only season is this season. In the Summer, if Blair is still slumping then you can trade him. But I still think he has way too much potential and talent to just ship off so quickly, especially when the team is doing well. Some people just need something to complain about. I think Blair is fine right now. I wish he was playing better, but I don't think it's a crisis by any stretch.