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SequSpur
12-06-2010, 12:14 AM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.

Spursfanfromafar
12-06-2010, 12:20 AM
Except for a login, SequSpur offers nothing else to Spurstalk.

200 miles
12-06-2010, 12:20 AM
You can't expect a falcon to fly with his wings tied up.

honestfool84
12-06-2010, 12:21 AM
height? seems to me that's a lot more than you bring to SpursTalk... i wouldn't be talking if i were you.

Fpoonsie
12-06-2010, 12:22 AM
I can only assume, given your posting history, that you'd prefer Bonner get his minutes...

Cry Havoc
12-06-2010, 12:26 AM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.

SequSpur, ladies and gentlemen.

He's only pleased when rookies who aren't getting calls are going for 20 and 14 a night. :rolleyes

EricB
12-06-2010, 12:39 AM
More famous than this was his declaration about December of 2002 of

"Manu = Manure"

and

"Stephen Jackson should be selling popcorn up in section 200 he belongs nowhere close to a basketball court"

dbestpro
12-06-2010, 12:40 AM
Is this a personal bio thread?

Hoops Czar
12-06-2010, 12:41 AM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.

He can take a charge? He tries really hard? Other than that, I'm all out of ideas.

SpursDynasty85
12-06-2010, 12:50 AM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.


Well the guy was the MVP in the euroleague, so he is obviously a force down there. Otherwise, he hasn't had the opportunity to show what he can do in the NBA.

Here is why the spurs gambled on him tho. He is a smart basketball player. He has energy. He plays the pick&roll better than the average person. And when he gets fed the ball, he is competent in the post. He can average double digits in points and maybe 7 rebounds a game down the road. His biggest asset is defense. He will be a solid starter for the spurs in the future.

DesignatedT
12-06-2010, 12:59 AM
height? seems to me that's a lot more than you bring to SpursTalk... i wouldn't be talking if i were you.

:rollin

gospursgojas
12-06-2010, 01:13 AM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.

Im actually with Sequ on this one.

Splitter had a golden oportunity to shine against a shitty bench in a 30 pt blowout and didn't deliver much.

Roger Freemason Jr.
12-06-2010, 01:20 AM
Dude, he barely put up those numbers in shitty EU. Wake the fuck up and stop being a cock sucker if you can help it.

Shut the fuck up Luva, you fucking sand ###### you.
Have you even seen Splitter play? Or was this just a good opportunity
to do some more trolling? At least Splitter doesn't complain about "fatigue" like a little queer. He's a fucking rookie for christ sakes, how could you expect him to come to the NBA guns blazing?

God you're such an incompetent person.

LeCrab
12-06-2010, 01:25 AM
Im actually with Sequ on this one.

Splitter had a golden oportunity to shine against a shitty bench in a 30 pt blowout and didn't deliver much.

How was he going to prove something when the other players were shooting once they touched the ball no passing at all...... look what happens when he plays with manu and tony he got 18 points.... his pick and roll is dangerous

Leonard Curse
12-06-2010, 01:27 AM
splitter could ball if not asked to play like tim duncan when he hasnt played more than 10min in a month!! you guys would be cold too if you were on the bench that freaking long out of shape from not having game conditioning. pops fucking his potential up. believe me if any player was benched like that theyd play like shit

midnightpulp
12-06-2010, 01:30 AM
Dude, he barely put up those numbers in shitty EU. Wake the fuck up and stop being a cock sucker if you can help it.

You should take your own advice.

But I doubt you do. You love the taste of KoolAIDS_Man's dick too much.

vander
12-06-2010, 01:33 AM
AI syndrome, lots of guys can put up semi-impressive numbers when they get lots of minutes and the ball in their hands with nothing to lose.

SpursDynasty85
12-06-2010, 01:33 AM
Dude, he barely put up those numbers in shitty EU. Wake the fuck up and stop being a cock sucker if you can help it.



Wow, you really are as ignorant as it appears.

SpursDynasty85
12-06-2010, 01:46 AM
How was he going to prove something when the other players were shooting once they touched the ball no passing at all...... look what happens when he plays with manu and tony he got 18 points.... his pick and roll is dangerous


He definitely rolls when he picks, but he's still not playing very effectively right now. He could do a much better job on timing his cuts and setting better picks. He atleast appears very uncomfortable out there.

Man In Black
12-06-2010, 02:14 AM
Another solid take by Sequ. But once again, it seems to be falling on deaf ears. Blind, deaf and dumb is what you all are.
You looking up to the midget says more about you than you'll ever say.

mountainballer
12-06-2010, 04:25 AM
I don't ever recall him being seen as an elite level player in the Euroleague.

2007-08 All-Euroleague First Team
2008-09 All-Euroleague Second Team
2009-10 All-Euroleague Second Team

Splitter wasn't Euroleague MVP as some mistakenly believe. but calling him "not elite" in the Euroleague is about as wrong as that.
would you ever call a player, who makes the All NBA First or Second team 3 times in three years "NOT elite" in the NBA?

Ice009
12-06-2010, 04:29 AM
Tiago Splitter was never MVP of the Euroleague. IMHO, from watching him over the years, I never once considered him a top 5 center in the Euroleague. I am not in the least bit disapointed by Splitter so far. He is adjusting to the different rules, coming off an injury, and he missed most of the training period.

So he is doing fine. It's just a simple fact that this board has overrated how good he was in Europe to the point of absurdity. I don't ever recall him being seen as an elite level player in the Euroleague. Just a very solid one. I assure you that he was never anything close to MVP level in the Euroleague, not remotely so.

Just give the guy some time to adjust and lower your expectations to something more realistic. He will be a good role player, just give him some time.

I've been reading your posts and what exactly do you think people are expecting Splitter to be? I'm expecting about 10 and 8, with very good defense to go along with that. Do you think people are expecting 20 and 10 or something? What is your expectations?

To me, I thought he was going to be a huge key on defense and play with TD so we can get a twin tower effect going and close down the lane, but Pop hasn't done that and I'm starting to think he's not going to play him with TD much at all which I think is stupid. You can't keep talking about defense and then play Matt Bonner all the time.

admiralsnackbar
12-06-2010, 04:36 AM
Another brilliant take from Sequ. Thanks.

admiralsnackbar
12-06-2010, 04:39 AM
Dude, he barely put up those numbers in shitty EU. Wake the fuck up and stop being a cock sucker if you can help it.

:lol

Does it count as irony when it's completely predictable you'll come in an pretend you're not scurred? Probably not.

mystargtr34
12-06-2010, 05:53 AM
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All-NBA is not voted online by fans. All-Euroleague is voted online by fans. I watched Splitter play many, many times in the last 3 years in the Euroleague. He was not a top 5 Euroleague center at any time.

He was never an "elite" Euroleague player by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think he was ever even the best player on his own team.

:lol wonder whos troll this is... you dont know what the fuck your talking about.

Ice009
12-06-2010, 05:53 AM
I think most Spurs fans are thinking he will be a 20/10 type of player. Or forgetting stats, that he will be a big time impact player. That's not realistic. As I am trying to explain, we did not get a top level Euroleague player. We got a good Euroleague player.

It really seems to me from reading the comments from most Spurs fans that they really think he was a big star in Europe. He has been called an elite Euroleague player in this very thread. That's just simply not true.

I would put Splitter in the category of those bigs in Euroleague like Varejao and Oberto. So to me, I think the expectations for him in the NBA and the statements as to what he was in Europe are out of whack by most Spurs fans.

Yeah, I am closer to your opinion, but I also thought he could improve once he got here and be a better player. I never expected him to be 20 and 10, but I also don't see a lot of people on this board saying that either.

What do you think of my expectations? What do you think he can provide?

Fireball
12-06-2010, 05:55 AM
He can take a charge? He tries really hard? Other than that, I'm all out of ideas.

Well, he burned your Cavs with his PnR Offense ... but that was his only good offensive game of the season. But his defense is great and he actually gets to the line very much for a rookie. The problem is he is not shooting the FTs very well.

Bruno
12-06-2010, 05:58 AM
Splitter is a damn good player. He just need some playing time. If only Pop could start playing him instead of giving so many minutes to Bonner. :bang

DrSteffo
12-06-2010, 06:00 AM
All-NBA is not voted online by fans. All-Euroleague is voted online by fans. I watched Splitter play many, many times in the last 3 years in the Euroleague. He was not a top 5 Euroleague center at any time.

He was never an "elite" Euroleague player by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not sure if he was ever even the best player on his own team.

Please name 5 european Centers better than him last season? Why did people vote on him? How about the double MVPs in Spain?

Since I am eurupean and have watched him a lot I have to think that you are either trolling or that you are a hater for some reason. Maybe you have another fav. european team or something, I don't know.

Bruno
12-06-2010, 06:10 AM
BTW, for people who still haven't figured it out: Mountain View, Arkansas. :rollin

silverblk mystix
12-06-2010, 06:41 AM
Splitter is a rookie and it has been hard for him to get minutes. When he has played-he is far and away doing a lot of good things in a very short period of time.

To be thrown in sporadically and then given DNP's a few times will throw anybody off their game and he will have to adjust.

To play at a certain time every game for a certain number of minutes every game allows you to focus more on the game instead of trying to maximize the precious few minutes you might be thrown-just to impress the coach.

To be a garbage time player means you will mostly be on the floor with garbage time players.

The day that Pop decides to put Splitter in a consistent rotation is when Splitter will begin to show what he can do, especially when he consistently gets minutes with the big 3-IF Lord Pop ever decides to do it.

Only then will you see why Splitter was previously voted MVP.

UnWantedTheory
12-06-2010, 06:49 AM
Oh how we love to entertain little Sequ....it gets better thread by thread.

rmt
12-06-2010, 07:25 AM
Well, in basketball, isn't there a saying that height is everything? Imagine if Blair were 5 inches taller.

But seriously, nobody is expecting 20/10 from Splitter - those are Duncan and Garnett (average prime) numbers. 10 and 8 with good/great defense is more in line. This team doesn't need more offense but help defense and clogging up the lane when the opponent gets past the perimeter defender is exactly what this team needs (short of a great perimeter defender). His pick and roll defense is great too.

Looks like Pop's plan is garbage time for Splitter this year, and I guess more time next year when Dice is gone.

J_Paco
12-06-2010, 08:22 AM
Pop is obviously giving Splitter the Oberto treatment of 2006. But, that's going to hurt this team come playoff time when Bonner falters (again) and Splitter isn't ready. I am hoping that eventually Pop changes his mind and begins trusting and playing Splitter more. Splitter and James Anderson are the biggest differences between the team that got bounced in the second round last year and this current team.

dbestpro
12-06-2010, 08:29 AM
Pop is obviously giving Splitter the Oberto treatment of 2006. But, that's going to hurt this team come playoff time when Bonner falters (again) and Splitter isn't ready. I am hoping that eventually Pop changes his mind and begins trusting and playing Splitter more. Splitter and James Anderson are the biggest differences between the team that got bounced in the second round last year and this current team.

Spot on.

You can also through Gary Neal over RMJ as a solid addition.

biskvito
12-06-2010, 08:47 AM
Splitter is a good fit for the old "boring" Spurs style. Maybe OP was expecting an european version of Amare Stoudemire. You won't see Splitter flying high on the top 10 dunks of the night, but you also won't see him being a brainless zombie on defense.

Trainwreck2100
12-06-2010, 08:52 AM
You can't expect a falcon to fly with his wings tied up.

That may be, but you'd expect him to feast when locked in a cage full of mice

Brazil
12-06-2010, 08:56 AM
Pop seems to have an issue with big men rookies: Ian, Blair, Oberto, Tiago... In the meantime he can trust rookie guards, see tp, manu, neal, ja...

J_Paco
12-06-2010, 09:08 AM
That may be, but you'd expect him to feast when locked in a cage full of mice

I didn't watch the game, but you seem to forget that Mbenga and Smith are more experienced and athletic than Splitter. Splitter needs more minutes to adjust and adapt his game to the Spurs and NBA, minutes his coach would rather give to Matt Bonner.


You can also through Gary Neal over RMJ as a solid addition.

Yeah, I forgot about the addition of Neal and Jefferson's improved play over last season.


Pop seems to have an issue with big men rookies: Ian, Blair, Oberto, Tiago... In the meantime he can trust rookie guards, see tp, manu, neal, ja...

Maybe it's just easier for rookie guards and wings to learn and adapt to the Spurs system than big men. I believe it is more a trust issue between Pop and his rookie big man. Especially, when he has players with more experience (Duncan & McDyess) and knowledge (Bonner) available on the roster. Funny thing is that I thought re-signing Bonner would hurt Antonio and DeJuan playing time and Splitter would get the best chance (for a rookie) since Tim Duncan. Yet, Bonner's presence has hurt all three but in particular Splitter.

:lol:lol:lol

it's me
12-06-2010, 09:58 AM
CIA Pop?..... saving some cards for the playoffs....?

Rummpd
12-06-2010, 10:07 AM
height - check
apparent court savy - check
took charges (even if not called) from a 300lb Neanderthal - double check
went to the basket hard on several occassions - check
even when he did not get the boards he was competing - check
always is filling the paint defensively - check

I am ok with that.

wontstartdumbthreads
12-06-2010, 10:08 AM
You can't expect a falcon to fly with his wings tied up.

How about: You shouldn't expect a titmouse to fly.

iminol
12-06-2010, 10:21 AM
via http://dimemag.com/2010/12/dime-nba-power-ranking-lakers-fall-outside-the-top-5/3/

"2. San Antonio Spurs (17-3)
Last week — Won at Golden State, lost at L.A. Clippers, beat Minnesota, beat New Orleans
Imagine how much better they’ll be when Tiago Splitter comes over from Brazil and joins the team.

Mel_13
12-06-2010, 10:25 AM
via http://dimemag.com/2010/12/dime-nba-power-ranking-lakers-fall-outside-the-top-5/3/

"2. San Antonio Spurs (17-3)
Last week — Won at Golden State, lost at L.A. Clippers, beat Minnesota, beat New Orleans
Imagine how much better they’ll be when Tiago Splitter comes over from Brazil and joins the team.

:lol

That's pretty funny.

boutons_deux
12-06-2010, 10:34 AM
:)

Trainwreck2100
12-06-2010, 11:53 AM
I didn't watch the game, but you seem to forget that Mbenga and Smith are more experienced and athletic than Splitter. Splitter needs more minutes to adjust and adapt his game to the Spurs and NBA, minutes his coach would rather give to Matt Bonner.





so he should be given minutes against quality lines when he can't beat shit lines. Shitty or not Bonner has experience against nba caliber players. You fucking tiago dickers want to blow games just to get him off the schnide.

BRs.Ganso
12-06-2010, 12:23 PM
obviusly he offers nothing.... other players dont pass the ball to him... its hard to make something.

mountainballer
12-06-2010, 12:31 PM
Last season? How about,

Batiste
Bourousis
Pekovic
Maric
Kaun

All 5 of them were better in the Euroleague last year than Splitter.


why am I not surprised to find two Pana players from last season, plus a Pana player from this season, plus an Olympiacos player. (no idea how Kaun made this list though. was there a rumor he could go to Greece?:lol)
yup. Mountain View is back.

Trainwreck2100
12-06-2010, 12:36 PM
obviusly he offers nothing.... other players dont pass the ball to him... its hard to make something.

he doesn't need to make anything to be a factor on defense

jermaine
12-06-2010, 12:41 PM
I can only assume, given your posting history, that you'd prefer Bonner get his minutes...
I want spiltter to get more mins too, but at least Bonner can give you a couple of 3s! People on here diss Bonner like he doesnt play hard. He tries his ass off every play. Its like blaming a retarded kid for being retarded! It's not his fualt that he's not a stopper! Spillter plays hars but other than P&R what else does he bring!(an thats if they get the ball to him). He seems that he cant shoot fts either! I thought he was the great new hope! To mention Splitter an Oberto in the same sentance is a slap in Manus face! Im not saying he's not good but the Spurs dont know how to use him yet! Like RJs 1st yr.:bang

Mel_13
12-06-2010, 01:10 PM
:lol

Btw, it's Mountain Home.

He's baaaack!!!

DrSteffo
12-06-2010, 01:25 PM
Last season? How about,

Batiste
Bourousis
Pekovic
Maric
Kaun

All 5 of them were better in the Euroleague last year than Splitter. And if you guys are so caught up in using flawed stats, just look at what Barac is doing. Splitter's replacement Barac is putting the same, or even better stats than Splitter did.

He played on a team that was designed to get him easy baskets. He also in his years at Vitoria had Prigioni and Huertas passing him the ball and getting him many easy dunks and layups. There is no one on the Spurs that can pass the ball like they can.

I am not denying that Splitter is a good player. He is a good player. He just isn't what the hype around here claims.

Aha, you are a fan of Panathinaikos! Maybe you should add the other two Pana centers Bogris and Vougioukas to the list too? :lol

Prigioni and Huertas can pass to Splitter but Parker and Manu cannot?In Splitter's 18 p game, Parker's passsing to Splitter was so sweet to watch. Splitter's PnR play with Parker or Manu should become a very nice offensive weapon. However it's true that Splitter will not benefit from sharing PT with Hill as PG and he is not a "beast" that will benefit that much from garbage time situations since he will not get many decent passes (see the last game).

For some reason you believe that Splitter was hyped up to be a 20 p 10 reb. player here at ST but this is not true. We want him to play solid D and be a good passer and PnR player. If he can be a more athletic version of Oberto that is perfectly fine and in line with expectations.

DaDakota
12-06-2010, 01:57 PM
Give him some time, it takes big guys from Europe about half a season to adjust.

He will be fine.

DD

ChumpDumper
12-06-2010, 02:01 PM
Last season? How about,

Batiste
Bourousis
Pekovic
Maric
Kaun

All 5 of them were better in the Euroleague last year than Splitter. And if you guys are so caught up in using flawed stats, just look at what Barac is doing. Splitter's replacement Barac is putting the same, or even better stats than Splitter did.

He played on a team that was designed to get him easy baskets. He also in his years at Vitoria had Prigioni and Huertas passing him the ball and getting him many easy dunks and layups. There is no one on the Spurs that can pass the ball like they can.

I am not denying that Splitter is a good player. He is a good player. He just isn't what the hype around here claims.Maybe the others, but Greek centers are the worst.

This cannot be denied.

Fpoonsie
12-06-2010, 02:23 PM
Jesus.

All Sequ had to do was throw a few lines a' bullshit against the ST wall, and the flies come a'-buzzin'...myself included.

ChumpDumper
12-06-2010, 02:50 PM
I am no fan of Panathinaikos. I am not a fan of any Euroleague team. Just so other Spurs fans here know, the forum is now being flooded with Euro homers.That's good, because the Greek players and the Greek teams and the Greek league are shameful mockeries of real basketball like the NBA.

ChumpDumper
12-06-2010, 02:52 PM
What does this have to do with where Splitter ranked among Euroleague centers? He never played in Greece.You compared him to Greek players and players on Greek teams.

wontstartdumbthreads
12-06-2010, 02:56 PM
I am no fan of Panathinaikos. I am not a fan of any Euroleague team. Just so other Spurs fans here know, the forum is now being flooded with Euro homers.

the forum is now being flooded with Euro homers homos.

Fixed.

ChumpDumper
12-06-2010, 02:57 PM
You compared him to Greek players and players on Greek teams.


What? No I did not.
Last season? How about,

Batiste
Bourousis
Pekovic
Maric
Kaun

All 5 of them were better in the Euroleague last year than Splitter. And if you guys are so caught up in using flawed stats, just look at what Barac is doing. Splitter's replacement Barac is putting the same, or even better stats than Splitter did.

He played on a team that was designed to get him easy baskets. He also in his years at Vitoria had Prigioni and Huertas passing him the ball and getting him many easy dunks and layups. There is no one on the Spurs that can pass the ball like they can.

I am not denying that Splitter is a good player. He is a good player. He just isn't what the hype around here claims.This kind of denial seems familiar.

DrSteffo
12-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I am no fan of Panathinaikos. I am not a fan of any Euroleague team. Just so other Spurs fans here know, the forum is now being flooded with Euro homers.

No, you are just one person.

Pop OFits
12-06-2010, 03:03 PM
The NBA refs call the game so much different than the European refs do.

+ Splitter is a rookie. If the Hornets game wasn't alreay out of hand, I would have blown an aneurism when Gray bowled over Tiago while his feet were set in concrete and outside the dotted circle.

ChumpDumper
12-06-2010, 03:05 PM
What denial? You said I compared him to some Greek players. I did no such thing. I made no such comparison to any Greek player. I don't even know what you would bring that up for. Your posts are not making sense.


Last season? How about,

Batiste
Bourousis
Pekovic
Maric
Kaun

All 5 of them were better in the Euroleague last year than Splitter. And if you guys are so caught up in using flawed stats, just look at what Barac is doing. Splitter's replacement Barac is putting the same, or even better stats than Splitter did.

He played on a team that was designed to get him easy baskets. He also in his years at Vitoria had Prigioni and Huertas passing him the ball and getting him many easy dunks and layups. There is no one on the Spurs that can pass the ball like they can.

I am not denying that Splitter is a good player. He is a good player. He just isn't what the hype around here claims.Stating that five players are better than one player is comparing them.

ChumpDumper
12-06-2010, 03:14 PM
No it is not.What is it, then?

Man In Black
12-06-2010, 03:45 PM
If you say that 5 players are better than 1 other player, that is an ipso facto COMPARISON.

In essence, you are saying that there would be more PRODUCTION or COHESION from those 5 than from Splitter.

That's your PROCLAMATION.

I disagree. The guy just needs to be fully healthy and properly integrated. People think integration will best be attained playing real time. I agree, but that real time can wait until January and beyond.

spurtech09
12-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Sequ your opinions always suck and why is there a Laker fan posting on a spurs thread...

Trainwreck2100
12-06-2010, 03:55 PM
The other guy asked me to name 5 centers last year in the Euroleague that I thought were better than Splitter. That's what I did. I made no comparisons at all between any of the players.

Go back and read the post where I clearly compared him to Varejao and Oberto. Can you explain to me what Splitter has to do with Greek players? As far as I know he is from Brazil and his family is German. Nothing to do with Greece. Why is this even an issue?

They can only be better by comparison, learn to english.

cheguevara
12-06-2010, 04:10 PM
funny cause Sequ offers anything but height

jjktkk
12-06-2010, 04:13 PM
Sequ your opinions always suck and why is there a Laker fan posting on a spurs thread...

I believe Sequ has 2 accounts. He also goes by LakaLuva. I believe the LakaLuva avaitor photo is Sequ's actual picture. :downspin:

rascal
12-06-2010, 06:42 PM
Splitter was way overrated in here. Go back right after he signed and read some of the threads. He was going to be the big difference maker that would push the spurs over the top.

rascal
12-06-2010, 06:46 PM
Splitter has two things working against him, he is white and a foreign big. Those guys are often too soft and don't turn into anything special.

SpursDynasty85
12-06-2010, 06:47 PM
Splitter was way overrated in here. Go back right after he signed and read some of the threads. He was going to be the big difference maker that would push the spurs over the top.


The Spurs don't need a big push.

HankChinaski
12-06-2010, 06:55 PM
Splitter missed all of training camp and is jumping into a complicated system and when other guys in the rotation are playing their roles effectively via Bonner and Dice hit their shots and spreading the floor. You complain because you see the guy run out their pick up some charges and set picks and makes a easy bucket on usually a lazy defensive team and you cry for more minutes?

1st year nba rookie in a already competitive conference where the team is in a win it all mentality it seems this year. He'll get his minutes, but not before the coaching staff can sort out what they have with the current nucleus that has given them their 17-3 record.

The man has the intangibles, i'm really more excited what he brings to us a season later instead of right now. Imagine the work they can put in with him with a solid off season training and a training camp he goes all the way through. Because as of right now, I don't Pop is doing much in setting a role for him right now, i think he's going the Blair route as of last season where they didn't have a coaching plan for the guy and just threw him out there and seeing what comes of it.

Yeah, it's frustrating since it took him several seasons to get here, especially on those nights where blair and bonner just seemed to be hurting us on the floor and you want something to change out there. Stop and actually WATCH a game and evaluate what's actually going on out on the floor with the lineups.

Hoops Czar
12-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Splitter was way overrated in here. Go back right after he signed and read some of the threads. He was going to be the big difference maker that would push the spurs over the top.

So was Mahimni, I believed some said he was the second coming of Andrew Bynum. But you know spurs fans, dreaming of once upon a time....

Hoops Czar
12-06-2010, 07:07 PM
The Spurs don't need a big push.

Not if they shoot lights out.

jjktkk
12-06-2010, 07:10 PM
I think Splitter will be a really good player for the Spurs. Maybe not a superstar, but a smart player who can score and defend in the post. My concern is that some Spurs fans might be placing unrealistic expectations on Splitter. IMO Splitter was a bit overhyped, which is certainly understandable, giving the fact that Duncan had needed a another bigman side kick for a few years now. We fans need to show some patience and let Splitter continue to evolve and hopefully by the time the playoffs come, Splitter will be a factor for the Spurs, which I believe he will.

The Truth #6
12-06-2010, 07:23 PM
He would benefit from playing with Manu...but then again what player wouldn't? The second unit so far has done a bad job of getting him involved in the offense, especially after he works diligently to set picks and roll to the basket. Some of the problem isn't just him, but his teammates getting used to him. This takes time. Maybe Pop doesn't want to mess up our winning ways by forcing the issue right now?

I'm happy that Blair is still getting a chance. In the end I think Blair has a greater upside (slightly) so I'm glad Pop is still starting him. I'd say that's progress for Pop.

kaji157
12-06-2010, 07:32 PM
I would say that in any other season Splitter would already be starting.

Why? Pop usually moves to the starting lineup to those players struggling so they can 1) assure themselves some in-games action without hurting the team, and 3) put less pressure on them because the start take the load off them.

I think the reason why he is not doing this now, is because Pop is respecting the elders (Tim, Tony, Manu) desire to start strong.
I think once he stars trying new configurations (as he will likely do at some point) splitter will start a few games.

Hoops Czar
12-06-2010, 07:46 PM
He would benefit from playing with Manu...but then again what player wouldn't? The second unit so far has done a bad job of getting him involved in the offense, especially after he works diligently to set picks and roll to the basket. Some of the problem isn't just him, but his teammates getting used to him. This takes time. Maybe Pop doesn't want to mess up our winning ways by forcing the issue right now?
.

Far be it for me to think Splitter should be able to create his own shot without needing a perfect set up.

MmP
12-06-2010, 09:20 PM
I recall another classic Sequ thread about an upcoming talented rookie called in 2003 "Despite passing Ginobili brings nothing else..."

Bartleby
12-06-2010, 09:36 PM
Splitter has two things working against him, he is white and a foreign big. Those guys are often too soft and don't turn into anything special.

Scola says hi.

DieHardSpursFan1537
12-06-2010, 09:50 PM
This is coming from Sequ, so not everything is correct.

He's only a rookie, so we can't really tell what he is going to turn out to be. So far, he's looking fine, but Pop better start getting him some more damn minutes.

DieHardSpursFan1537
12-06-2010, 09:51 PM
He a solid player who just needs game time....I look for him to come on strong around the all star break.
All Star Break sounds reasonable.....

BackHome
12-06-2010, 11:18 PM
Splitter missed all of training camp and is jumping into a complicated system and when other guys in the rotation are playing their roles effectively via Bonner and Dice hit their shots and spreading the floor. You complain because you see the guy run out their pick up some charges and set picks and makes a easy bucket on usually a lazy defensive team and you cry for more minutes?

1st year nba rookie in a already competitive conference where the team is in a win it all mentality it seems this year. He'll get his minutes, but not before the coaching staff can sort out what they have with the current nucleus that has given them their 17-3 record.

The man has the intangibles, i'm really more excited what he brings to us a season later instead of right now. Imagine the work they can put in with him with a solid off season training and a training camp he goes all the way through. Because as of right now, I don't Pop is doing much in setting a role for him right now, i think he's going the Blair route as of last season where they didn't have a coaching plan for the guy and just threw him out there and seeing what comes of it.

Yeah, it's frustrating since it took him several seasons to get here, especially on those nights where blair and bonner just seemed to be hurting us on the floor and you want something to change out there. Stop and actually WATCH a game and evaluate what's actually going on out on the floor with the lineups.

Could not have said it better........all I want Splitter to do this off season is work on his core strenght he needs to be doing squats every day to help out his base and work on his mid shot and be ready for summer camp and I will be a happy camper.

BRs.Ganso
12-07-2010, 09:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBwFgh7YyY

here's a good mix with Tiago's offense moves.

Spursmania
12-07-2010, 09:39 AM
That's good, because the Greek players and the Greek teams and the Greek league are shameful mockeries of real basketball like the NBA.

Chump does it again. :lol
And another one bites the dust.:tu

TJastal
12-07-2010, 10:26 AM
I believe Sequ has 2 accounts. He also goes by LakaLuva. I believe the LakaLuva avaitor photo is Sequ's actual picture. :downspin:

yessireebob, that's a real kneeslapper!

Agloco
12-07-2010, 11:22 AM
Stating that five players are better than one player is comparing them.


No it is not. I'm not getting into an argument with you if you are just trolling.

:lol

rascal
12-07-2010, 06:35 PM
Far be it for me to think Splitter should be able to create his own shot without needing a perfect set up.

Splitter doesn't look to be the type of player who will be an explosive offensive player who can hit shots away from the basket or create his own shot.

He will score most of his points from open dunks or high % put backs but move him away from the basket or put a defender between him and the basket and he is worthless.

beachwood
12-07-2010, 08:36 PM
Seems he has a high bball IQ, so that's why I like him. He'll learn his place within the offense and defense and he'll get more time as the season progresses.

You can't teach height.

SequSpur
12-08-2010, 12:09 AM
I believe Sequ has 2 accounts. He also goes by LakaLuva. I believe the LakaLuva avaitor photo is Sequ's actual picture. :downspin:

Sequ doesn't need accounts...he has one account....

Not afraid....

G-Dawgg
12-08-2010, 12:25 AM
For a dude that signed a guaranteed -multi year- contract before playing a single game in the NBA Tigayo sucks...he should take a page outta Gary Neal's book....

gospursgojas
12-08-2010, 12:29 AM
For a dude that signed a guaranteed -multi year- contract before playing a single game in the NBA Tigayo sucks...he should take a page outta Gary Neal's book....

And run a train on a vomiting chick?

G-Dawgg
12-08-2010, 12:31 AM
yeah, that would be his highlight for the year.....

gospursgojas
12-08-2010, 12:33 AM
yeah, that would be his highlight for the year.....

Tiago is a tall light brazilan dude...Im sure hes had his share of sexual highlights.

G-Dawgg
12-08-2010, 04:23 AM
Well he's sure not making any BASKETBALL highlights...:lol

rascal
12-08-2010, 12:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBwFgh7YyY

here's a good mix with Tiago's offense moves.

These highlights don't show that Splitter has much of an offensive game away from the basket. He is also scoring on slower and under sized players as compared to what he sees in the NBA. He has some athletic ability to put the ball on the floor and take it to the basket and dunk or score on short shots but again against slower and smaller players.

that league he played in doesn't look good at all by the highlights. I see guys guarding him just letting him go by and not even putting up their arms to defend.

jjktkk
12-08-2010, 12:35 PM
Sequ doesn't need accounts...he has one account....

Not afraid....

Thats true Sequ, but you might wanna tell LakaLuva to wipe your poop off his nose. Its kinda creepy.

BRs.Ganso
12-08-2010, 12:47 PM
These highlights don't show that Splitter has much of an offensive game away from the basket. He is also scoring on slower and under sized players as compared to what he sees in the NBA. He has some athletic ability to put the ball on the floor and take it to the basket and dunk or score on short shots but again against slower and smaller players.

that league he played in doesn't look good at all by the highlights. I see guys guarding him just letting him go by and not even putting up their arms to defend.

Agree, but he have speed and mobility to play in NBA.

Unfortunately, Splitter and Varejao played the championship with only 50% of your physique.

Again, he need improve his mid range shot... his worst defect.

TwelveGs210
12-08-2010, 07:53 PM
I want spiltter to get more mins too, but at least Bonner can give you a couple of 3s! People on here diss Bonner like he doesnt play hard. He tries his ass off every play. Its like blaming a retarded kid for being retarded! It's not his fualt that he's not a stopper! Spillter plays hars but other than P&R what else does he bring!(an thats if they get the ball to him). He seems that he cant shoot fts either! I thought he was the great new hope! To mention Splitter an Oberto in the same sentance is a slap in Manus face! Im not saying he's not good but the Spurs dont know how to use him yet! Like RJs 1st yr.:bang

Hey Jermaine, ya still think we should have traded George Hill and DeJuan for Hickson, Moon, and West?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
12-09-2010, 06:58 AM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.

Sometimes you show the world just how little you appreciate the subtleties of basketball. This post is one such occasion. Splitter is a very promising player with huge potential for growth. He's smart at both ends, just wait and see how good he becomes.

mountainballer
12-09-2010, 07:04 AM
They don't play defense in the Spanish League. It's known for bad defense.

A lot of the teams play a style like the Suns.

Euroleague on the other hand has a lot harder defense than the NBA does.
http://www.google.at/imgres?imgurl=http://kopfueber.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/facepalm_implied.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kopfueber.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/das-zih-die-umfrage-semesterticket-f-sachsen/&usg=__InfnzydhBZ4FkL2JL65mF3VUzRc=&h=501&w=646&sz=34&hl=de&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=nLGid3R7xvmNRM:&tbnh=171&tbnw=220&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfacepalm%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client% 3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:de:official%26channel%3Ds%26 biw%3D1319%26bih%3D650%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=649&ei=RMYATZnQHMas8QPOpKibCA&oei=RMYATZnQHMas8QPOpKibCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0&tx=116&ty=59
this time with picture.

BRs.Ganso
12-09-2010, 09:42 AM
SequSpur

12 points and 6 rebounds

and i want see Splitter improving his mid range shot.... would be a great upgrade in his game.

SpursChampsIII
12-09-2010, 12:56 PM
this dude doesn't get quality minutes and he gets Carl Herrera time. What can this dude do?

I am not impressed.

thumbs down.

At least Splitter offers height...you don't even offer that. TWO thumbs down.

DaDakota
12-09-2010, 01:31 PM
He's baaaackkkkk !!!!

KBP back in Da-House !

DD

BackHome
12-09-2010, 06:56 PM
And run a train on a vomiting chick?


Damn you almost made he throw up my food from laughing so hard!:rollin

Mel_13
12-09-2010, 07:01 PM
They don't play defense in the Spanish League. It's known for bad defense. A lot of the teams play a style like the Suns.

So they don't play defense in the Spanish League?


Euroleague on the other hand has a lot harder defense than the NBA does.

But they really play defense in the Euroleague?



Question, Billy:

What kind of defense do the Spanish League teams play when they play in their Euroleague games?

One more question:

How's VSpan doing for Oly in that two-team league in Greece?

BRs.Ganso
12-09-2010, 07:17 PM
http://www.google.at/imgres?imgurl=http://kopfueber.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/facepalm_implied.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kopfueber.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/das-zih-die-umfrage-semesterticket-f-sachsen/&usg=__InfnzydhBZ4FkL2JL65mF3VUzRc=&h=501&w=646&sz=34&hl=de&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=nLGid3R7xvmNRM:&tbnh=171&tbnw=220&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfacepalm%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client% 3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:de:official%26channel%3Ds%26 biw%3D1319%26bih%3D650%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=649&ei=RMYATZnQHMas8QPOpKibCA&oei=RMYATZnQHMas8QPOpKibCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0&tx=116&ty=59
this time with picture.

hahahahahaha

Manu_forever made my day everyday, when I'm bored, its just read his posts.

SequSpur
12-12-2010, 08:25 PM
23 games in......

nothing.....

DMC
12-12-2010, 08:31 PM
I have a Tiago Splitter blow up doll I call Spitter, because the cavity for the mouth isn't nearly deep enough. It's been around the block a few times.

biskvito
12-12-2010, 08:47 PM
23 games in......

nothing.....

yeah, no minutes at all... :rollin