Lee signs with Yankees

[JayTheClown]

Not yet but
I just want to be the first to post the breaking news

[ducks]

you are a fucking losser

[JayTheClown]

you are a fucking losser

:rollinI know

[monosylab1k]

:lol I damn near shit my pants when I saw this. Even though we all know it's inevitable tbh :depressed

[bostonguy]

Thank you OP! Lee is gonna resign with Texas!
:lmao:lmao@the Yankees

[monosylab1k]

Thank you OP! Lee is gonna resign with Texas!
:lmao:lmao@the Yankees

do u have a link or is this just cuz u assume the reverse jinx will work? please tell me you have a link hahaha

[Blake]

I'd want to play in NY just to get out of that sauna bowl in Arlington

[KapitanTutan]

:rollinI know

:lol

[ducks]

Rangers make offer to Lee
By STEPHEN HAWKINS, AP Sports Writer
1 hour, 38 minutes ago


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Return to Original ShareretweetEmailPrintARLINGTON, Texas (AP)—Texas Rangers owner Chuck Greenberg traveled to Arkansas on Thursday and presented Cliff Lee(notes) with an offer in an attempt to persuade the prized pitcher to remain with the team he helped reach the World Series.

Greenberg, Rangers assistant general manager Thad Levine and co-chairman Ray Davis, a pipeline billionaire, met with Lee, the pitcher’s wife and agent Darek Braunecker at the agent’s office.

“We made an offer with substantial additional commitments in years and dollars,” Greenberg said. “It was a very constructive conversation.”

Before Thursday, the Rangers had asked Lee to tell them what it would take to for him to stay in Texas, which acquired from Seattle in July.

The New York Yankees added a year to their offer earlier in the day, proposing a seven-year contract for the 2008 AL Cy Young Award winner. On Wednesday, the Yankees had offered a six-year deal worth $137.5 million to $140 million.

Then the Boston Red Sox agreed Wednesday night to a $142 million, seven-year contract with All-Star outfielder Carl Crawford(notes). Greenberg said that deal changed the free-agent market dynamics and prompted the trip to Arkansas.

“A very positive discussion,” Greenberg said. “We reiterated our strong desire for him to remain a Ranger.”

Greenberg, whose group bought the team from Tom Hicks in August, said the Rangers weren’t given a timetable for Lee’s decision.

“We’d rather it be sooner than later,” the owner said, “but they have an enormous decision to make.”

[EricB]

He told friends if they offered a 6th year he'd stay.

Offer him the 6th year. Show the fan base you arent the "same old rangers"

[LnGrrrR]

:lol I damn near shit my pants when I saw this. Even though we all know it's inevitable tbh :depressed

Yup.

[crc21209]

:lol What a fail of a thread OP....

[JayTheClown]

There I reworded the title. No pants deserves to be shitted on. I couldn't live with that guilt.

[JayTheClown]

I changed it back. I forgot I hate pants

[JayTheClown]

Just hold on guys this thread is gonna be true eventually.

[Fpoonsie]

Fuuuuuck me. The Yanks offered Lee a 7TH. FUCKING. YEAR?!

[bostonguy]

Lee is gonna stay in Texas. He is using the Yankees as leverage. As EricB said, a 6 year deal from the rangers will suffice. Don't worry Yankee fans. You still have AJ Burnett, and Ivan Nova (Who according to Yankee fans is gonna be a stud) to help out CC when Andy retires. :lmao

[JayTheClown]

Lee is gonna stay in Texas. He is using the Yankees as leverage. As EricB said, a 6 year deal from the rangers will suffice. Don't worry Yankee fans. You still have AJ Burnett, and Ivan Nova (Who according to Yankee fans is gonna be a stud) to help out CC when Andy retires. :lmao

You fuckers sure cleaned up this off-season.

[bostonguy]

You fuckers sure cleaned up this off-season.

Hopefully they can stay healthy.The AL East is back down to Boston and New York again.

[JayTheClown]

Hopefully they can stay healthy.The AL East is back down to Boston and New York again.

I don't know if you heard this but there are rumors floating around that Lee may be going to Boston. I don't believe them (mostly because Boston doesn't need Lee) but the are out there. Scout Downs i believe.

[FromWayDowntown]

Fuuuuuck me. The Yanks offered Lee a 7TH. FUCKING. YEAR?!

There's a part of me that wants to see just how far the Yankees will go -- to be the high bidder, would they offer him 8 years? 9 years? 10 years?

Would they offer him $25MM per? $30?

[Blake]

There's a part of me that wants to see just how far the Yankees will go -- to be the high bidder, would they offer him 8 years? 9 years? 10 years?

Would they offer him $25MM per? $30?

the MLB's lack of a salary cap sucks.

the Yanks could probably offer 8 or 9 at $25 mill and it wouldn't phase them.

[monosylab1k]

Lee will definitely be a Yankee because the Yankees have no ceiling in the bidding process and the Rangers do. At some point, the Rangers will say "screw this, we'll go after Greinke instead".

Honestly I wouldn't want the Rangers to offer 7 years, even though rumor has it they already did.

[TheNextGen]

id keep the bidding going then take the rangers cuz of the taxes. lol

[Blake]

Lee will definitely be a Yankee because the Yankees have no ceiling in the bidding process and the Rangers do. At some point, the Rangers will say "screw this, we'll go after Greinke instead".

Honestly I wouldn't want the Rangers to offer 7 years, even though rumor has it they already did.

I think offering any picther more than 5 is a bad idea.

As for Lee, he hasn't exactly lit it up during the regular season in the last two years any way.

It sucks, but the Rangers will be stupid if they try to keep up with the Yanks.

[crc21209]

Lee will definitely be a Yankee because the Yankees have no ceiling in the bidding process and the Rangers do. At some point, the Rangers will say "screw this, we'll go after Greinke instead".

Honestly I wouldn't want the Rangers to offer 7 years, even though rumor has it they already did.

Really? Where did you hear that?

[Fpoonsie]

I think offering any picther more than 5 is a bad idea.

As for Lee, he hasn't exactly lit it up during the regular season in the last two years any way.

It sucks, but the Rangers will be stupid if they try to keep up with the Yanks.

Greenberg has said they won't chase this far enough to marginalize the franchise, so we'll see.

[Blake]

Greenberg has said they won't chase this far enough to marginalize the franchise, so we'll see.

yeah, in their current state, I'd be shocked if they did.

[rascal]

Lee is 32 years old. How many more years do you think he will be pitching like he is now? It took along time to get to where he is now as a pitcher and he will fall off very quickly.

[Whisky Dog]

Better get him on the Roger Clemens training plan with some fresh urine and blood laying around if you're gonna offer him 6 to 7 yrs. I think the Rangers see their window as 3 maybe 4 yrs and want to maximize now. All this would be a lot easier if they just wouldn't have laid a fucking egg when they had the title on their finger tips.

[JamStone]

Cliff Lee has been a really good pitcher for a while. It hasn't just been the last three seasons. He did go 46-24 his first three full seasons in Cleveland. And his stuff has pretty much always been really good. Has 4-5 plus pitches. And he doesn't rely on a high 90s fastball to get hitters out. So he probably has more longevity than most pitchers his age. I look at Jaime Moyer and what he did when he was 38/39 years old. Moyer went 20-6, pitched 209 innings, had a 3.43 ERA and a 1.102 WHIP at that age. It's rare, but Cliff Lee is the type of pitcher that can be very effective through his late 30s. Will he? Obviously remains to be seen. But, I wouldn't rule it out and say he can't.

[Whisky Dog]

Cliff Lee has been a really good pitcher for a while. It hasn't just been the last three seasons. He did go 46-24 his first three full seasons in Cleveland. And his stuff has pretty much always been really good. Has 4-5 plus pitches. And he doesn't rely on a high 90s fastball to get hitters out. So he probably has more longevity than most pitchers his age. I look at Jaime Moyer and what he did when he was 38/39 years old. Moyer went 20-6, pitched 209 innings, had a 3.43 ERA and a 1.102 WHIP at that age. It's rare, but Cliff Lee is the type of pitcher that can be very effective through his late 30s. Will he? Obviously remains to be seen. But, I wouldn't rule it out and say he can't.

He can still be good, but can he be anywhere near 25 mil a year good after say the first 2 to 3 yrs of the contract?

[JamStone]

Is any pitcher worth $25 million anyway? He probably isn't worth that even when he pitches his best baseball. But that's the financial landscape of the MLB at the moment. And let's say with the inflation of that MLB financial landscape $25 million in 2017 would be similar to something like $18 million right now. He might be closer to worth it than you think. Look at those numbers I posted of Jamie Moyer when he was pitching as a 38/39 year old. 20 game winner, 200+ innings, 3.4 ERA. if Cliff Lee did that in the last year of his contract, would he be worth it? I'm just saying it's possible.

More than that anyway, both the Rangers and the Yankees would be paying Cliff Lee all that money to help their respective teams win a World Series or two... or three. Let's say whichever team signs Lee wins two World Series in the first 4 years of his contract, he averages 18 wins in those first 4 years, and he wins one more Cy Young and finishes in the top 5 in the other three season. Say all of that happens. Would it matter what happens in the last 2-3 years of his contract if that's what he helps the team accomplish?

[ducks]

Lee is 32 years old. How many more years do you think he will be pitching like he is now? It took along time to get to where he is now as a pitcher and he will fall off very quickly.

nolan ryan knows what it takes to pitch when you are over 40 HELLO

[Blake]

Is any pitcher worth $25 million anyway?

$25 mill for a guy that starts every 4th or 5th game? No, but the current market is out of whack so I guess worth is relative.

[Blake]

More than that anyway, both the Rangers and the Yankees would be paying Cliff Lee all that money to help their respective teams win a World Series or two... or three. Let's say whichever team signs Lee wins two World Series in the first 4 years of his contract, he averages 18 wins in those first 4 years, and he wins one more Cy Young and finishes in the top 5 in the other three season. Say all of that happens. Would it matter what happens in the last 2-3 years of his contract if that's what he helps the team accomplish?

basically front load the contract? If they are guaranteed two WS wins, absolutely.

Looking at his regualr season stats over the last couple of years though, I don't think Cliff is that guy.