View Full Version : George Hill is the heir to the Manu Ginobili throne
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 05:41 PM
Well, at least if this game is any indication of his full potential.
Spurs future is looking bright even after the big 3 dynasty comes to an end.
ducks
12-12-2010, 05:42 PM
do you realize tp is not old
manu and duncan are
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 05:44 PM
Point out to me where I said tony parker is old and I'll give you a cookie.
Point out where I even implied 3, 4, 5 years from now by merely saying "future" and I'll buy you 2 cookies.
smeagol
12-12-2010, 05:44 PM
do you realize tp is not old
manu and duncan are
stop sucking tp for one second
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 05:45 PM
Oh, and if that isn't bad enough, there still remains the fact that George Hill isn't even a point guard. He's a shooting guard.
TDMVPDPOY
12-12-2010, 05:49 PM
lmao face palm
must be parker fan who made this thread
NASpurs
12-12-2010, 05:51 PM
do you realize tp is not old
manu and duncan are
How does it feel to have someone's cock in your mouth? Do you tickle his balls while sucking him off?
ducks
12-12-2010, 05:51 PM
stop sucking tp for one second
tp is not even in his prime yet:hat
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 05:52 PM
lmao face palm
must be parker fan who made this thread
Leave it to Ginobili homers judging this thread as if it's a shot against ginobili instead of a compliment to George Hill. :rollin
BlairForceDejuan
12-12-2010, 05:55 PM
The only heir to the Manu Ginobili throne already died on a cross imo
Leave it to Ginobili homers judging this thread as if it's a shot against ginobili instead of a compliment to George Hill. :rollin
Hill my second fave player after Manu. But seriously this thread is just full of premature ejaculation...its the equivalent of someone making a Blair thread after one his 20-20 games and saying he's the heir to Duncan.
There is no heir to Duncan. Just like there will be no heir to Ginobili. Theyre not players that come around very often.
lmao face palm
must be parker fan who made this thread
I think Tony Parker himself started it.
TJastal
12-12-2010, 05:58 PM
Called this shit a month ago already.
11/8/2010
Hill has shown some flashes of being a guy who can not only get to the line with frequency, but knock em down at an 80% clip. Perhaps there is a closer job in his future?
11/5/2010
Amen to that. Add gritty, tough, durable to that list. He's also pretty damn good at getting to the line & can knock down free throws @ 80% clip which makes him a good option as a closer.
Hill is not the heir to Manu. There won't be one actually. Manu is a very unique player, never seen anything like him, probably won't again.
ducks
12-12-2010, 06:00 PM
people said that with david robinson to....
TJastal
12-12-2010, 06:02 PM
Hill is not the heir to Manu. There won't be one actually. Manu is a very unique player, never seen anything like him, probably won't again.
I don't think the thread starter's intent was to say he'll be the next Manu Ginobili, just sayin' he's going to take over his role on the team, for better or for worse.
Hoops Czar
12-12-2010, 06:05 PM
Called this shit a month ago already.
11/8/2010
11/5/2010
Nothing like tooting your own horn. Maybe jARS mEsH sEt has a cookie for you.
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 06:08 PM
I don't think the thread starter's intent was to say he'll be the next Manu Ginobili, just sayin' he's going to take over his role on the team, for better or for worse.
This.
8-10 years from now we'll see the ball in George Hill's hands at the end of games. He'll be one of the top 3 options on the team.
Will he ever be as good as Ginobili? Of course not.
You still can't deny the the apparent fact that Pop is priming Hill to - one day way WAY down the line - take over Ginobili's role on this team. This is not to say he'll ever be as good as Ginobili. It's simply stating that - if today's game is any indication of Hill's full potential - he's good enough to fill that role.
You don't have to be as good as Ginobili to fill his role down the line. It's hard enough to be even a fraction of Ginobili is (or what he was in his prime) but Hill has shown that he's capable of doing at least that.
What's the alternative? Do you think Pop is going to trade away Hill or we'll find someone better prepared to assume Ginobili's throne down the line?
TJastal
12-12-2010, 06:17 PM
Nothing like tooting your own horn. Maybe jARS mEsH sEt has a cookie for you.
What can I say? I'm a grey name spurs fan with no accolades or spurs under my name who is scorned by most of the "regulars" on the site.
So pretty much this is my only way of getting some type of satisfaction and recognition and respect around here.
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 06:19 PM
^^ What do you mean by grey name spurs fan? How do you make names bold? I never thought much of it. Figured it would just be some option under control panel.
Hill doesn't need to take over Manu's role, and I highly doubt he will be with this team 10 years from now.
TJastal
12-12-2010, 06:28 PM
^^ What do you mean by grey name spurs fan? How do you make names bold? I never thought much of it. Figured it would just be some option under control panel.
The way i understand it is if your a respected board contributor that has been here awhile Kori will bold your name. I could be wrong though.
The way i understand it is if your a respected board contributor that has been here awhile Kori will bold your name. I could be wrong though.
Who fucking cares? That and a condom can prevent pregnancy.
smrattler
12-12-2010, 06:31 PM
Manu...
He is the heir to his own throne.
He will one day pass the torch... to himself.
He once played like a mortal... just to see what it felt like.
jARS mEsH sEt
12-12-2010, 06:36 PM
Hill doesn't need to take over Manu's role, and I highly doubt he will be with this team 10 years from now.
You really think so??? What makes you think that?
Isn't Hill one of Pop's favorite players? Didn't Pop continue to give him minutes and continue to tell him to stay aggressive even when he was struggling early on?
LeCrab
12-12-2010, 06:37 PM
George hill will be a life long spur....
Darkwaters
12-12-2010, 06:40 PM
I love George, but hes nowhere near Manu. When I think of Gino my first thought is not his shooting or slashing, ankle breakers nor crossovers. It's his passing. The guy has an uncanny ability to get teammates involved and get an offense flowing.
George might be able to do the shooting, slashing and all the other fancy stuff, but he has a long ways to go in the passing category. And passing it what will activate the offense around you, get teammates going, and then make the game easier for YOU.
I love George, but hes not on Manu's level.
That being said, as one of those guys that groaned when I heard IUPUI on draft night, I completely take it back and will eat my crow. The guy is legit and is a HUGE asset to this team.
Crow's not so bad actually. I've had it a few times.
ajballer4
12-12-2010, 08:10 PM
There will never be another Ginobili
Hoops Czar
12-12-2010, 08:19 PM
There will never be another Ginobili
Your right!! Genetically, its impossible.
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/toilet_throne050611.jpg
And here's that throne!
Your right!! Genetically, its impossible.
Actually there will probably be many more Ginobilis. Two just arrived recently!
SpursDynasty85
12-12-2010, 08:34 PM
Manu's first 3 seasons:
7.6ppg
12.8ppg
16.0ppg
George's first 3 seasons:
5.7ppg
12.4ppg
11.5 ppg
First two seasons are very comparable, but the 3rd can be explained by Hills slump in the beginning of the year. Take that away I'm sure his season 3 would be comparable too.
The comparison is fair, but I see one huge advantage for MANU. He is longer,taller, and passes better. These are his intangibles.
Hill on the otherhand is faster and younger than when Manu first came to the league so Hill's got potential to fill the 6th man of the year type role that Manu has filled for a while. Hill will have to bulk up. I'm leaning more towards a Bobby jackson type role for Hill in the future.
99-03-05-07
12-12-2010, 08:40 PM
There will never be another Ginobili
i agree 100% wit this comment, never will there be another Ginobili
admiralsnackbar
12-12-2010, 09:39 PM
I love what Hill brings to the table, but there's no way he is Manu-like beyond his ability to score, play D, and come off the bench. I doubt there are 5 players in the NBA with Manu's court vision, competitive instinct, idiosyncratically efficient skill-set, and understanding of the game on both ends of the court. He'll be a coach before any other player of our championship days excepting Avery.
He even did a behind the back dribble penetration layup ala Manu today. :stirpot:
remember that manu at 21/22 (not remermbering george's age now) was not the great passer that he is now, he tell you that he didn't understand the game very much at that age
so george can develop too
TMTTRIO
12-12-2010, 10:35 PM
Well it does seem like the guys are trying to learn Manu's moves. This was from the other night. Interesting.
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/12/11/spurs%E2%80%99-blair-aims-to-reclaim-identity/
DeJuan Blair took it from there, rambling up the floor and finishing with a nimble Euro-step around Hawks guard Jamal Crawford.
Watching it all unfold from elsewhere on the court, guard George Hill recognized the move.
“He learned it the same place I did,” Hill said. “From copying Manu.”
admiralsnackbar
12-12-2010, 10:37 PM
Which is great, and clearly bodes well for our future. I guess my point would be: where did Manu learn to be Manu from? A: hisself.
I Heart Ginobili
12-12-2010, 11:16 PM
Manu's first 3 seasons:
7.6ppg
12.8ppg
16.0ppg
George's first 3 seasons:
5.7ppg
12.4ppg
11.5 ppg
First two seasons are very comparable, but the 3rd can be explained by Hills slump in the beginning of the year. Take that away I'm sure his season 3 would be comparable too.
The comparison is fair, but I see one huge advantage for MANU. He is longer,taller, and passes better. These are his intangibles.
Hill on the otherhand is faster and younger than when Manu first came to the league so Hill's got potential to fill the 6th man of the year type role that Manu has filled for a while. Hill will have to bulk up. I'm leaning more towards a Bobby jackson type role for Hill in the future.
Irrelevant. Manu was already an all-star in the Euroleague before he ever came to the NBA.
George still has plenty of time to grow, and i believe that he could very well become the next Ginobili. He just needs to work on his passing and creating for himself.
jalberto
12-13-2010, 06:12 AM
...... seriously this thread is just full of premature ejaculation....
:lmao
Calavera
12-13-2010, 06:38 AM
I'm almost sure that what we see here is just the preparation for the future role. Pop won't replace Manu (after retire) with a trade or draft (I guess we won't get early in the 1st round soon) The same thing is with Duncan. I expect after Duncan retires Blair and Splitter taking over the front court. Back court would feature James Anderson and G.Hill, Parker will be around, Jefferson maybe too, but in the far future - Splitter, Hill, Anderson, Blair.
This players are here to learn from our veterans, to learn the system and the culture ot our organization. What we saw yesterday with Hill's behind the back is that if you grow around super talented and crafted players, sometimes it's better for you than being super talented yourself but without tutors.
It's all about pounding the rock, not waiting for the kryptonite to fall from the sky!
Josepatches_
12-13-2010, 07:09 AM
Manu's first 3 seasons:
7.6ppg
12.8ppg
16.0ppg
George's first 3 seasons:
5.7ppg
12.4ppg
11.5 ppg
First two seasons are very comparable, but the 3rd can be explained by Hills slump in the beginning of the year. Take that away I'm sure his season 3 would be comparable too.
The comparison is fair, but I see one huge advantage for MANU. He is longer,taller, and passes better. These are his intangibles.
Hill on the otherhand is faster and younger than when Manu first came to the league so Hill's got potential to fill the 6th man of the year type role that Manu has filled for a while. Hill will have to bulk up. I'm leaning more towards a Bobby jackson type role for Hill in the future.
Hill has to play with 2 all stars in the backcourt.I'm sure he could average 18-20 ppg in the league but we have too many weapons right now so Hill can't average more than 12-13 ppg.
G-Dawgg
12-13-2010, 08:00 AM
...Nope, Hill is heir to Parkers throne.....
hater
12-13-2010, 10:11 AM
I love George, but hes nowhere near Manu.
/thread
stop with the homer crack
hater
12-13-2010, 10:12 AM
Your right!! Genetically, its impossible.
the Ginobili twins disagree
silverblackfan
12-13-2010, 10:25 AM
Well it does seem like the guys are trying to learn Manu's moves. This was from the other night. Interesting.
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/12/11/spurs%E2%80%99-blair-aims-to-reclaim-identity/
DeJuan Blair took it from there, rambling up the floor and finishing with a nimble Euro-step around Hawks guard Jamal Crawford.
Watching it all unfold from elsewhere on the court, guard George Hill recognized the move.
“He learned it the same place I did,” Hill said. “From copying Manu.”
That is the exact quote that ran through my mind when George did the euro-step, behind the back move in the NBA highlights. Blair and George are both smart, super athletic guys. If these two are studying Manu's moves, which everyone knows is happening but still managed to get burned? Oh my.
Indazone
12-13-2010, 10:32 AM
The proof in the pudding is what the Spurs will be like when Duncan retires.
stéphane
12-13-2010, 11:00 AM
Some people still underestimate Manu's talent.
Calavera
12-14-2010, 01:46 PM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/timeout/20secondto.html
TJastal
12-14-2010, 06:33 PM
I love what Hill brings to the table, but there's no way he is Manu-like beyond his ability to score, play D, and come off the bench. I doubt there are 5 players in the NBA with Manu's court vision, competitive instinct, idiosyncratically efficient skill-set, and understanding of the game on both ends of the court. He'll be a coach before any other player of our championship days excepting Avery.
He's already been on record saying he doesn't want to coach :rolleyes
TDMVPDPOY
12-14-2010, 06:35 PM
lol comparin hill to ginoboli, who let the parker fans out
hill>parker
kaji157
12-14-2010, 07:04 PM
I think if anything, Hill can inherit Parker´s role.
He is good on the fastbreak even when numbers are not in his favor just like TP, he looks first for his shot like TP, his size is good for a PG position, his passing is yet to get to TP´s level, but it think he can get there.
I think the player that has showcased the most habilities to became like Manu is James Anderson, he is a better passer than Hill, his assist per minute rate is higher than Hill all 3 seasons, his body is almost perfect for the SG role, and he can make it even better if he mucles up the way Blair and Hill did in their first preseasons.
By the way
Body comparisions
Player: Tony Parker -------- George Hill -------- Emanuel Ginobili --- James Anderson
Height: 6-2 / 1.88 --------- 6-2 / 1.88 -------- 6-6 / 1.98 --------- 6-6 / 1.98
Weight:185 lbs. / 83.9 kg. - 180 lbs. / 81.6 kg. - 205 lbs. / 93.0 kg. - 215 lbs. / 97.5 kg.
Not sure if Anderson will be as good as he looked like, but as of now he is our best case scenario for the next game changing SG.
TwelveGs210
12-14-2010, 08:05 PM
lmao @ anyone with less than 1,000 posts creating any kind of topic here, and seeing it get disected and destroyed.
Hill cannot inherit Parker's role, Brent's wife don't like him.
Cessation
12-14-2010, 09:45 PM
Hill is playing the role ginobli used to have, come of the bench and make an immediate impact. So far george is doing great in duplicating that, even led the team in scoring of the bench last game, ala manu.
100%duncan
12-15-2010, 06:41 AM
No one is gonna be the next SuperManu Ginobili
LoneStarState'sPride
12-15-2010, 08:11 AM
Hill's potential value as a future closer cannot be overlooked--his ability to be a defensive pest with his length is what I believe will make him one of Pop's (or whoever's coaching), biggest assets.
Kent_in_Atlanta
12-15-2010, 08:36 AM
George Hill was a hell of a find. Spurs seem to have a knack for those. Plus defender, who seems to have all-star offensive potential. No replacing Ginobili... but Hill can begin assuming more of Manu's scoring responsibilities when the years begin to catch up to him.
Duncan is going to be what he is now, health permitting, for another 4 or 5 years, as will Tony Parker. But having young talent like Hill definitely helps to pry the championship window open... perhaps several more years.
jARS mEsH sEt
02-13-2011, 03:00 PM
B...U..mP
Spur_Fanatic
02-13-2011, 03:15 PM
Manu needs no heir. He'll just hit 35, and rejuvenate himself back to 25.
Maybe grow some body too, to play center. :P
Em-City
02-13-2011, 11:04 PM
comparisons are often unneccessary.
prime example
UnWantedTheory
02-14-2011, 01:17 AM
This is nothing like David to Tim. That was a passing of the torch. Manu to Hill, is not. He will fill a role, that is it. There will be no "heir" to his throne, just another guard filling the space he use to occupy.
itzsoweezee
02-14-2011, 01:26 AM
comparisons are often unneccessary.
prime example
that about sums up this stupid thread.
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