Are we gonna sit here and Pretend that Ginobili didnt travel 3 times on the last play

[Darthkiller]

Deers got jobbed

[KapitanTutan]

why should you care piston fan?

[siraulo23]

lol it looked like he travelled

[ezau]

Not sure if he traveled. If he was actually pushed by Mbah a Moute so a foul should have been called.

[LakerHater]

Yeah It kinda did look like a travel! :lol

[Barfunk]

Watch it again if you can. No travel.

[Cry Havoc]

Not sure if he traveled. If he was actually pushed by Mbah a Moute so a foul should have been called.

[midnightpulp]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

The best closer in the NBA deserves a break now and then.

[NRHector]

Spurs win haters :p:

[WeNeedLength]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

:pimpslap

[Hooks]

I gotta re-watch it again, it looks like he took a step back jumper.

KB should take notes from #20.

[rayjayjohnson]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

...and remember, he's seen a lot of laker games.

[rayjayjohnson]

The best closer in the NBA deserves a break now and then.

best closer in the nba deserves to cheat? wtf planet are you on?

[Sisk]

Step back jumper tbh

[ElNono]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

http://www.cslacker.com/images/file/mediums/emo_kids.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

Poor baby.

[ElNono]

best closer in the nba deserves to cheat? wtf planet are you on?

Already butthurt? Game don't start until tomorrow

[BRHornet45]

what else is new from that balding fuck?

[ohmwrecker]

3 times?! I'm pretty sure all it takes is once.

[redzero]

Wow, I'm actually impressed by Spurs fans admitting that Ginobili traveled. I thought everybody would try to pretend that it was fair, like that Michael Finley 3-point buzzer beater from two years back that didn't beat the buzzer.

[ElNono]

srsly, he didn't travel *3* times

[rayjayjohnson]

Already butthurt? Game don't start until tomorrow

lol. spurs doing a back to back in denver? bitch, you trippin.

hope your trainers are brining plenty of arthritis cream.

[ohmwrecker]

what else is new from that balding fuck?

Go back to huffing swamp gas and jerkin' it to bull dykes.

[LakerHater]

Wow, I'm actually impressed by Spurs fans admitting that Ginobili traveled. I thought everybody would try to pretend that it was fair, like that Michael Finley 3-point buzzer beater from two years back that didn't beat the buzzer.

Yeah, oh well nothing anyone can do bout it now! :wakeup

[BanditHiro]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

kobe does this shit all the time (to the right though)

[ElNono]

Wow, I'm actually impressed by Spurs fans admitting that Ginobili traveled. I thought everybody would try to pretend that it was fair, like that Michael Finley 3-point buzzer beater from two years back that didn't beat the buzzer.

You can let it go now son... Don't let it make it 3 years of misery

[redzero]

You can let it go now son... Don't let it make it 3 years of misery

Let it go? If my memory is correct, that game was against the Kings. I just found it amusing that people here tried to justify being handed the game by the refs.

[ElNono]

tbh, Kome would have been bailed out by the zebras...

[DeadlyDynasty]

tbh, Kome would have been bailed out by the zebras...

Stern knows what's best, tbh

[ElNono]

Let it go? If my memory is correct, that game was against the Kings. I just found it amusing that people here tried to justify being handed the game by the refs.

Players don't make the calls. It's not justification, just fact. The league already amended the rules to deal with that.

[redzero]

Players don't make the calls. It's not justification, just fact. The league already amended the rules to deal with that.

I didn't say that players made the calls. I said that the refs handed the Spurs the game--which they did.

[DPG21920]

lol Hipster Hornets fan.

Now that the Hornets blow again, it is actually cool to rock their throw back shirts and skinny jeans tbh.

[Nathan89]

tbh, Kome would have been bailed out by the zebras...

This is so fucking true it hurts. All the refs would have simultaneously blown their whistles on that type of a play.

[j.dizzle]

:lol Small ball. SA lucky they pulled that out. They were up by like 20 & almost pulled a Dallas haha.

[redzero]

lol Hipster Hornets fan.

Now that the Hornets blow again, it is actually cool to rock their throw back shirts and skinny jeans tbh.

lol not knowing the meaning of the word "hipster."
lol shopping at Baby Gap.

[midnightpulp]

:lol Small ball. SA lucky they pulled that out. They were up by like 20 & almost pulled a Dallas haha.

Look at Laker fan talking shit now that his team is on an impressive two game win streak.

[ElNono]

I didn't say that players made the calls. I said that the refs handed the Spurs the game--which they did.

They obviously didn't see the clock expiring and the rules back then prevented them from running a replay. I actually think it's hilarious that non-sacto fans got all butthurt over that play.

[BanditHiro]

:lol Small ball. SA lucky they pulled that out. They were up by like 20 & almost pulled a Dallas haha.

difference between Mavs and Spurs tbh

[DPG21920]

lol not knowing the meaning of the word "hipster."
lol shopping at Baby Gap.

lol I know you are a hipster

lol being an angry hipster

lol using generic jokes like "baby gap"

lol your team sucks

lol you suck

lol your takes suck

lol you suck while wearing ghey clothes and listening to ghey music while hanging at Starbucks

[j.dizzle]

Look at Laker fan talking shit now that his team is on an impressive two game win streak.

:lmao You try too hard Pulp

[Hemotivo]

If a player jumps off one foot on the count of one he may land with both feet simultaneously for count two. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either return to the floor

:reading

didn't travel

[FkLA]

He dribbled right before the stepback, watch the replay.

As was previously stated, just the best closer in the game doing what hes supposed to do. Nothing to see here tbh.

[ElNono]

:lol Small ball. SA lucky they pulled that out. They were up by like 20 & almost pulled a Dallas haha.

Now it's gonna be easier to digest losing tomorrow if it happens.

[Yorae]

Santa didn't saved the Christmas deer. That play is bad. A foul should've been called because of the push. But since the push was ignored everything else also got ignored. Seriously it was a bad win coz we almost had a meltdown but give the bucks a lot of credit...Game should've never been close.

[Venti Quattro]

Stern trying his best to keep the Spurs odd year streak alive. Tee hee

[DPG21920]

Hipster is a slang term that first appeared in the 1940s, and was revived in the 1990s and 2000s often to describe types of young, recently-settled urban middle class adults and older teenagers with interests in non-mainstream fashion and culture, the Hornets basketball team, terrible jokes & particularly alternative music, indie rock ...

[pauls931]

We're nothing but a bunch of corn.

[redzero]

lol I know you are a hipster

lol being an angry hipster

lol using generic jokes like "baby gap"

lol your team sucks

lol you suck

lol your takes suck

lol you suck while wearing ghey clothes and listening to ghey music while hanging at Starbucks

lol claiming I use gay jokes while simultaneously using a term that has lost all meaning

lol shrinking from 5'5" to 5'4"

lol thinking I have ever taken a single sip of Starbucks coffee

lol calling what I listen to ghey even though you don't know what I listen to

[j.dizzle]

Now it's gonna be easier to digest losing tomorrow if it happens.

Denver plays small too so they're gonna try to get out & run a lot cuz they got that advantage of being used to the air up there haha

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

How many people actually played (real) basketball here?

Bunch of armchair ballers and refs

[IronMexican]

lol claiming I use gay jokes while simultaneously using a term that has lost all meaning

lol shrinking from 5'5" to 5'4"

lol thinking I have ever taken a single sip of Starbucks coffee

lol calling what I listen to ghey even though you don't know what I listen to

KOL, Coldplay, Muse, The Killers. We all know those hipster bands you listen to.

[DPG21920]

lol claiming I use gay jokes while simultaneously using a term that has lost all meaning

lol shrinking from 5'5" to 5'4"

lol thinking I have ever taken a single sip of Starbucks coffee

lol calling what I listen to ghey even though you don't know what I listen to

lol Defending your hipster lifestyle

lol being a hipster

lol choosing to be a hipster

lol looking at all the things you could be in life and deciding on hipster

lol Manu in your hipster face while you sip a latte at Starbucks while wearing a sweater that is too small and listening to a band that is from India that no one knows of then rejecting them once they get a song on the radio

lol again for Manu ruining your hipster life with a step back 3

lol angry hipster

lol you suck at being hipster which is totally hipster

[NRHector]

After a further review and slow motion replay, Manu did not travel it was just a simple step back

[ElNono]

Denver plays small too so they're gonna try to get out & run a lot cuz they got that advantage of being used to the air up there haha

Blair was banged up and so is Splitter. So it's gonna be a 3 pointer feast tomorrow. If we hit them, we win, if we don't, we won't.

[DPG21920]

lol mad that I posted the definition of hipster and it's you

[redzero]

palsOtUOnzA

It looked like he took two steps, jumped backwards and then took a jumpshot.

[Cessation]

It wasnt a travel nerds.

NBA says:

If a player jumps off one foot on the count of one he may land with both feet simultaneously for count two. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either return to the floor.

[DPG21920]

palsOtUOnzA

It looked like he took two steps, jumped backwards and then took a jumpshot.

Why do you care?

[DPG21920]

Guys, impromptu poll:

What is worse:

A: being a hipster

B: being a hornets fan

Please cast your votes.

[DeadlyDynasty]

crab dribble tbh

[Hemotivo]

crab dribble tbh

almost

[FkLA]

cQ83korBNac#t=0m7s

He took a dribble even as he was stepping back. Legit win tbh. :flag:

[DPG21920]

It's hard for me to tell if that is a travel or not tbh. I am not sure how that step back rule is really applied.

[ohmwrecker]

palsOtUOnzA

It looked like he took two steps, jumped backwards and then took a jumpshot.

My favorite part is that weirdass in the red shirt at the end.

[Yorae]

But f*ck, this game how crazy bogut can be on d....

[HarlemHeat37]

Looked pretty iffy, I wouldn't have been mad if they had called it, but it wasn't an "obvious" call..it wasn't obvious enough for a call at that point of the game IMO, but whatever, it's over now..

Looking at the replay, it's such an awkward looking move, I really don't know..

[DPG21920]

Just a normal dude, ohm

[siraulo23]

KUoCoSE0O2w

slow-mo

he clearly took two steps, stepped back then shot it

[history2b]

The best closer in the NBA deserves a break now and then.


Lol the delusion continues.

[TE]

lol at you retards who think yall know what a travel is. It's not like yall are refs or anything.

Lol Manu just recking on the NBA and you fucktard fans are here on a messageboard whining like the no-life idiots yall are.

.................................................. .............


and that's what Lava would say.


On a serious note, Manu didn't travel. He took a step back and upon gathering his balance/shooting stance simultaneously, it seemed like it was a travel in real time, but it wasn't if you watch a slow motion replay.

[duncan228]

Not everybody impressed w/Manu's game-winner. Skiles and Mbah a Moute both called it a travel.

[ohmwrecker]

Just a normal dude, ohm

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, Pancho.

[rayjayjohnson]

lol bogut

https://twitter.com/andrewmbogut/status/15264793287987200


Tough loss. Will be very interesting to check the film on certain little things.hmmmm. Anyway we are off and TRAVELLING back to Milwaukee!

[Fpoonsie]

Looks like he landed w/ one foot, then the other, then took the shot.

Now that my conscience is clear, I'll sit back and enjoy the W.

[redzero]

cQ83korBNac#t=0m7s

He took a dribble even as he was stepping back. Legit win tbh. :flag:

This angle is much clearer. I could not see that last dribble in the first video, but it looked like he dribbled right before his foot touched the court.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol that Bogut tweet is pretty funny..

[Fpoonsie]

Game still would've simply gone to OT, so...

...:cry away one-night-only Bucks fans.

[ohmwrecker]

:lol that Bogut tweet is pretty funny..

It's not as funny if you say it out loud with that marble-mouthed Australian accent.

[sribb43]

Even Manu's bald spot traveled on that one

[BRHornet45]

BR, man, come on dude. I used to look forward to seeing your sigs. Just cause CP3 quit, you don't have to follow.

son I have sexy ass SUE BIRD AND that incredible Lisa Ann gif in my sig! what more do you want???

[ALVAREZ6]

lololololololol @ butthurt Bogut


Manu doin work baby, nothin new

[Venti Quattro]

son I have sexy ass SUE BIRD AND that incredible Lisa Ann gif in my sig! what more do you want???

son as long as you're not all over that man diana taurasi we're all good

[midnightpulp]

son I have sexy ass SUE BIRD AND that incredible Lisa Ann gif in my sig! what more do you want???

Not Luva's type. He digs fat chicks.

[Hemotivo]

lol bogut

https://twitter.com/andrewmbogut/status/15264793287987200

:p:

[Spursmania]

What a bunch of fags crying over a no call. Suck it haters:lol

[BRHornet45]

son as long as you're not all over that man diana taurasi we're all good

but son just like our resident cuckold ghazi ... I have heard that Diana can suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch!

[ohmwrecker]

but son just like our resident cuckold ghazi ... I have heard that Diana can suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch!

As long as that trailer hitch is pierced into a labia majora . . .

[Fpoonsie]

As long as that trailer hitch is pierced into a labia majora . . .

:lmao

[Spursmania]

but son just like our resident cuckold ghazi ... I have heard that Diana can suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch!


:lmao

[Yorae]

Are Australians really bad with spelling?

[ALVAREZ6]

Are we gonna sit here, :cry and wish that Manu would for one second stop being so goddamn clutch?

[weebo]

palsOtUOnzA

It looked like he took two steps, jumped backwards and then took a jumpshot.

Great play Manu...looks totally legit.

[NRHector]

Are we gonna sit here, :cry and wish that Manu would for one second stop being so goddamn clutch?:lol este wey

[ohmwrecker]

Are Australians really bad with spelling?

They are kind of bad at everything tbh.

[DJB]

21-3

[ClingingMars]

Wow, I'm actually impressed by Spurs fans admitting that Ginobili traveled. I thought everybody would try to pretend that it was fair, like that Michael Finley 3-point buzzer beater from two years back that didn't beat the buzzer.

this wasn't a travel, and that definitely beat the buzzer.

[BlairForceDejuan]

LOL @ pretending like rules matter in the WWFNBA.

Final Seconds = Anything goes short of decapitation

[redzero]

this wasn't a travel, and that definitely beat the buzzer.

Little late to the party there. I admitted on page 3 that it wasn't a travel.

[ClingingMars]

How many people actually played (real) basketball here?

Bunch of armchair ballers and refs

licensed HS ref, not a travel

[ClingingMars]

Little late to the party there. I admitted on page 3 that it wasn't a travel.

we might be thinking of a different 3 pointer thou, as I'm thinking of the game tying shot vs PHX in the playoffs (that got overshadowed badly by Duncan's 3 and Ginobili's driving dagger)

[ALVAREZ6]

LOL @ pretending like rules matter in the WWFNBA.

Final Seconds = Anything goes short of decapitation

:lol


tbh I believe you are not up to date...it has been known as the WWENBA for some time now.

[redzero]

we might be thinking of a different 3 pointer thou, as I'm thinking of the game tying shot vs PHX in the playoffs (that got overshadowed badly by Duncan's 3 and Ginobili's driving dagger)

6b5L_xJQTrU

Even though the quality is terrible, this was what I was talking about.

[LnGrrrR]

:reading

didn't travel

Didn't we go over this with Brons bunny hop last year?

[ClingingMars]

LOL @ pretending like rules matter in the WWFNBA.

Final Seconds = Anything goes short of decapitation

That's the way I call it. Will do anything short of letting someone get injured to not let my whistle decide the outcome of a game.

[ClingingMars]

6b5L_xJQTrU

Even though the quality is terrible, this was what I was talking about.

jezz. I understand what you mean, but I'm gonna need something just a little more clearer to even try and make judgment without taking the announcer at his word.

[DAF86]

cQ83korBNac#t=0m7s

He took a dribble even as he was stepping back. Legit win tbh. :flag:

It does look strange, but I really don't see the travel there.

[ALVAREZ6]

I don't get what all the fuss is about...even if Manu was called for a travel, or even if it didn't go in --------> Spurs win in overtime.


After scoring the final baskets for the Spurs, Manu just being Manu in 4th+OT clutch mode, they were not going to lose, LOL.

[redzero]

jezz. I understand what you mean, but I'm gonna need something just a little more clearer to even try and make judgment without taking the announcer at his word.

2fiZjER5E68

Here you go. A Spurstalk user even uploaded the video.

[jestersmash]

LOL @ redzero just raging in this thread.

[crc21209]

The announcers sure as hell did. That is the worst travel I've ever seen not called.

:lol :cry :cry :cry

[crc21209]

son I have sexy ass SUE BIRD AND that incredible Lisa Ann gif in my sig! what more do you want???

Sue Bird is trash...:td

[DAF86]

what else is new from that balding fuck?

Not clutch shots, that's for sure.

[redzero]

LOL @ redzero just raging in this thread.

Raging? I already admitted that Manu didn't travel and the only reason I posted the Finley video is because ClingingMars wanted clarification.

[bbarry]

The Bucks biased announcers opinion means diddily. The refs, and Bucks bench didn't think it was a travel. They didn't even react to it, which they should have if it was in fact one. And they were sitting closer to the play than anyone here was. Clearly not a travel, you dumb losers thinking you know better than professionals. That's all we need to know.

Although, on the other hand, the Spurs announcers didn't think anything of it whatsoever. Usually they would have at least brought up the fact that he MIGHT have travelled, if there was one. Then proceed to say something like "Manu may have gotten away with one there." Or "I'll take it.".

[Nahtanoj]

It was a travel.. but the final result wouldn't have mattered if called anyway.

[8FOR!3]

lol, Ginobili looked at Mbah a Moute and said YOU FUCK ON MEEEE?!?!

[Jelloisjigglin]

Spurs would of won anyway tbh

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

lol bogut

https://twitter.com/andrewmbogut/status/15264793287987200


Bogut's a little bitch, if anyone on the Bucks thinks that's a travel, then now we know why they suck, because they lack advanced basketball knowledge. Fuck Bogut, I'm glad Timmy owned his ass all night, he can go cry about it, it won't give the Bucks the W.

[pookenstein]

son I have sexy ass SUE BIRD AND that incredible Lisa Ann gif in my sig! what more do you want???

tbh, as long as Lisa has her dress/shirt/bra on her tits look amazing but as soon as she drops the clothes it gets a little bit disgusting. The position of her nipples... Terrible boobjob.

But in your sig she looks good.

[KapitanTutan]

Game still would've simply gone to OT,

this.

the deers would have still lost.

[bongraider]

in this thread we find out who the fan is and who the baller is- and what Manu did was no travel.

[Budkin]

best closer in the nba deserves to cheat? wtf planet are you on?

:lol

[Seventyniner]

Players do that move all the time, it's called a jump stop. However, most of the time they're moving forward as it happens; this is the first sideways jump stop I can remember seeing.

[in2deep]

:lmao that same night Pierce traveled as well by sliding his foot in his game winning shot.

http://www.hatersgoingtohate.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/haters-gonna-hate-cop-tickets-kid.jpg

[Killakobe81]

LOL NBA TV got it right ... Denis Scott, Greg Anthony and the dark haired white guy ...(not the dorky fantasy guy who tries too hard to be hip)

1. they cut to the last minute of the game
2. Said that Jennings would have the ball and they woukd look for Bogut
3. Gave props to Parker for good defense on jennings "step-back" which he DID NOT travel ...
4. Said the spurs were going to manu and he was driving left ...(amazing evryone knows but can't stop it ...credit to Manu)
5. After manu hits it ... "Before we describe the last play the feed we had was of the spurs announcers Bill Lund and Sean elliott ...that is why there was NO mention of what looked like a clear travel ..." LOL

TBH Greg Anthony kind of said well it was close ...and since he made a great shot ...he was OK with the no call ... (which means he knew it was a travel)

As for me ... I turned to my wife and said "Great shot , but that looked like a travel or am I wrong?" She said she thought it was a travel.

My second thought well the ref was right THERE how could he miss that? My guess he was looking at the release for a foul and if he got off the shot butthat was downright horrible for the refs to miss that.

but great play Manu, a win is a win and he still made a great shot over a tough defender

[Killakobe81]

Spurs would of won anyway tbh

agree. Their best chance to win wa sthe PREVIOUS possession that Jennings wasted ...

[Venti Quattro]

Watched the replay. Didn't see any reason to call a travel

[DAF86]

LOL NBA TV got it right ... Denis Scott, Greg Anthony and the dark haired white guy ...(not the dorky fantasy guy who tries too hard to be hip)

1. they cut to the last minute of the game
2. Said that Jennings would have the ball and they woukd look for Bogut
3. Gave props to Parker for good defense on jennings "step-back" which he DID NOT travel ...
4. Said the spurs were going to manu and he was driving left ...(amazing evryone knows but can't stop it ...credit to Manu)
5. After manu hits it ... "Before we describe the last play the feed we had was of the spurs announcers Bill Lund and Sean elliott ...that is why there was NO mention of what looked like a clear travel ..." LOL

TBH Greg Anthony kind of said well it was close ...and since he made a great shot ...he was OK with the no call ... (which means he knew it was a travel)

As for me ... I turned to my wife and said "Great shot , but that looked like a travel or am I wrong?" She said she thought it was a travel.

My second thought well the ref was right THERE how could he miss that? My guess he was looking at the release for a foul and if he got off the shot butthat was downright horrible for the refs to miss that.

but great play Manu, a win is a win and he still made a great shot over a tough defender

Did you see this replay? I don't see a travel there.


cQ83korBNac#t=0m7s

He took a dribble even as he was stepping back. Legit win tbh. :flag:

[Killakobe81]

LOL spur fans aqsking why does other teams fans care? Yes it was a travel ... but why do Spur fans care it WAS NOT called. So I would enjoy the victory ...
i can see Mavs fans upset because it's a tight division race and they would "get back" he game they just lost on their home floor to the bucks.

Me as a Laker fan i don't care, about the W i just believe it was a travel. I hope the spurs, heat, Mavs and Celts are on win streaks when we play them ...

[Killakobe81]

Did you see this replay? I don't see a travel there.
yes, I saw it like 4x ...
before he stepped back ... he slid a pivot foot ...then jumped back.

[DAF86]

Yes it was a travel.

Explain why it's a travel other than it looked awkward.

[Venti Quattro]

lol actually I re-watched it on youtube and it's a blatant walk. but who cares the spurs have bagged the W now

[DAF86]

lol late with the comment.

I still don't see a travel though.

[Killakobe81]

I'll say this I think he slid his foot when he gathered after the step back ...but it in real time it is close it's ony on the replay that it looks more like a travel to me ...

But now I cant say it was clear I saw it but im watching on high def big screen and not looking at the clock or the release. I still think he should of called it but it was a quick move ...

[Agloco]

I think the fact that no one on the Bucks bench protested speaks much louder than any of us could.

Twitter accounts aside of course......

[Killakobe81]

lol late with the comment.

I still don't see a travel though.

Of course you don't ...you don't want to. But it doesnt bug me wither way. It's not like i think Stern rigged the game or that the spurs were NOT going to win it in OT anyway ...there ONLY hope would of been travel with .5 or so on the lock and a Dfish type miracle. they would not of won in OT ...so to me as far as eggregious calls go ...this was not bad ...since it's close in real speed and i think spurs win regardless.

[DAF86]

He was still bouncing the ball after taking that big step with his right fooot, he picked up his dribble when he made his step with the left foot and then jumped and landed with both feet, which is legal, no travel imo.

[BlairForceDejuan]

Don't hate the no-call, hate the shitty league with bias refs, superstar treatment, and not one once of consistency.

[Killakobe81]

I think the fact that no one on the Bucks bench protested speaks much louder than any of us could.

Twitter accounts aside of course......

Was fast play real quick move by Manu ...Like i said in real time i thought maybe it just looked "awkward" like you said. in slow mo, it's a travel ...but I'm not a Bucks fan so what damage did it do to me?

Props to manu, props Spur fans. Im done on this subject ...

[hater]

yup. Don't hate the playa, hate the game

[ElNono]

...so to me as far as eggregious calls go ...this was not bad

This is it. It's arguable even in slowmo. Refs stay away from making calls in the waning moments unless it's blatant. I'm sure bucks fan is mad, but they'll get it back sooner or later. This stuff happens to every team.

[Venti Quattro]

Bad call, but I'm sure Kobe's travel in game 5 of the 2008 WCF was worse.

[hitmanyr2k]

yes, I saw it like 4x ...
before he stepped back ... he slid a pivot foot ...then jumped back.

Nah, Ginobili shouldn't have a pivot foot if he's still dribbling the ball. He pushes back on his final dribble and makes the step back move as the ball is coming back up into his hands. He gathers the ball on the pro hop and goes right into his shot. I don't think it's a travel. If it is a travel it's borderline at best and impossible to catch at game speed. When I originally saw the play from the side angle my first thought was travel because his dribble was shielded by the defender. When I saw the angle at the top of the key I changed my mind.

[ClingingMars]

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Here you go. A Spurstalk user even uploaded the video.

without instant replay, no way you can make that call.

[Killakobe81]

Nah, Ginobili shouldn't have a pivot foot if he's still dribbling the ball. He pushes back on his final dribble and makes the step back move as the ball is coming back up into his hands. He gathers the ball on the pro hop and goes right into his shot. I don't think it's a travel. If it is a travel it's borderline at best and impossible to catch at game speed. When I originally saw the play from the side angle my first thought was travel because his dribble was shielded by the defender. When I saw the angle at the top of the key I changed my mind.

Pivot was poor choice of words ... I meant plant foot. when he stepped back as he gathered it slid. Again, like I said I'm done with this ...just replying because you quoted me ...but when i saw it again today in "real speed" .. I agree tough call to make.
Last night, all the replays i saw (NBATV) were in slow-mo and i still see the travel. but you can quote the rule book ... it's still a a judgement call. Ref was there didnt call it ...im cool with it.
in the end I doubt it cost the Bucks the game they would of lost in OT regardless ...

BTW how do you think your team will hold up without Noah. I know Gibson is good and Boozer is back but ithink Noah was far more crucial to your team than Boozer. in fact i liek you guys in matchups with heat and Magic come playoff time but you will need Noah at 100% and you guys dont want the celtics in the 2nd round so you have to stay out out of the 4 and 5 spot ...which i think you will. Your thoughts?

[TheMACHINE]

a legit stepback was if he shot the ball with his left leg going back. The fact that he landed on both feet and then started a jumpshot made it a travel.

But if the refs didnt see, who cares.

[ElNono]

Did anyone catch luva celebrating after the shot?

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3930/wtful.gif

[TE]

Did anyone catch luva celebrating after the shot?

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3930/wtful.gif

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[hitmanyr2k]

Pivot was poor choice of words ... I meant plant foot. when he stepped back as he gathered it slid. Again, like I said I'm done with this ...just replying because you quoted me ...but when i saw it again today in "real speed" .. I agree tough call to make.
Last night, all the replays i saw (NBATV) were in slow-mo and i still see the travel. but you can quote the rule book ... it's still a a judgement call. Ref was there didnt call it ...im cool with it.
in the end I doubt it cost the Bucks the game they would of lost in OT regardless ...

BTW how do you think your team will hold up without Noah. I know Gibson is good and Boozer is back but ithink Noah was far more crucial to your team than Boozer. in fact i liek you guys in matchups with heat and Magic come playoff time but you will need Noah at 100% and you guys dont want the celtics in the 2nd round so you have to stay out out of the 4 and 5 spot ...which i think you will. Your thoughts?

I think the Bulls will be fine against the shit teams of the league so their record will be good enough where they will probably have homecourt in the first round at least. It's a good thing we've played most of the tougher opponents multiple times already. I like Gibson. He's been very effective as a starter and gives Rose another target on the floor because he can hit the jumper similar to Boozer. He's also active on the boards. Neither have the toughness or can defend opposing bigs like Noah which is going to cause problems against teams like the Celtics...and possibly the Magic. I really like our matchups against the Heat and look forward to those games. I'm still not sold on Miami's interior defense yet.

[anonoftheinternets]

apparently not a travel since the steps only count after hte "gather" and not the last dribble as i intiially thought.

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[rayjayjohnson]

this.

the deers would have still lost.

lol heatfan

[Dunc n Dave]

LOL spur fans aqsking why does other teams fans care? Yes it was a travel ... but why do Spur fans care it WAS NOT called. So I would enjoy the victory ...
i can see Mavs fans upset because it's a tight division race and they would "get back" he game they just lost on their home floor to the bucks.

Me as a Laker fan i don't care, about the W i just believe it was a travel. I hope the spurs, heat, Mavs and Celts are on win streaks when we play them ...

Not a travel at all Killa. Watch this video, it explains it to even the newest newbies of organized basketball.
http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/12/16/have-ball-will-travel-manu-ginobili/

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[Amuseddaysleeper]

Here's why it wasn't a travel, and this is from a Mav fan no less:

http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/12/16/have-ball-will-travel-manu-ginobili/

[crc21209]

Here's why it wasn't a travel, and this is from a Mav fan no less:

http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/12/16/have-ball-will-travel-manu-ginobili/

Good find :tu

[Agloco]

Was fast play real quick move by Manu ...Like i said in real time i thought maybe it just looked "awkward" like you said. in slow mo, it's a travel ...but I'm not a Bucks fan so what damage did it do to me?

Props to manu, props Spur fans. Im done on this subject ...

In real time this looks awfully suspicious, but here's the best take on the matter. Quite conclusive tbh....... all in slo mo:


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[hitmanyr2k]

That video basically echoes what I said last night and earlier today...not a travel.

[greyforest]

In real time this looks awfully suspicious, but here's the best take on the matter. Quite conclusive tbh....... all in slo mo:


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nice

[024]

yup, video is pretty conclusive.