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RandomGuy
12-16-2010, 02:12 PM
Good to know. An article from the Economist summarizes recent research into the subject. I would do an executive summary, but the title says it all. -RG

Here are a few excerpts from a MUCH longer original article.
http://www.economist.com/node/17722567

ASK people how they feel about getting older, and they will probably reply in the same vein as Maurice Chevalier: “Old age isn’t so bad when you consider the alternative.” Stiffening joints, weakening muscles, fading eyesight and the clouding of memory, coupled with the modern world’s careless contempt for the old, seem a fearful prospect—better than death, perhaps, but not much. Yet mankind is wrong to dread ageing. Life is not a long slow decline from sunlit uplands towards the valley of death. It is, rather, a U-bend.

When people start out on adult life, they are, on average, pretty cheerful. Things go downhill from youth to middle age until they reach a nadir commonly known as the mid-life crisis. So far, so familiar. The surprising part happens after that. Although as people move towards old age they lose things they treasure—vitality, mental sharpness and looks—they also gain what people spend their lives pursuing: happiness.

This curious finding has emerged from a new branch of economics that seeks a more satisfactory measure than money of human well-being. Conventional economics uses money as a proxy for utility—the dismal way in which the discipline talks about happiness. But some economists, unconvinced that there is a direct relationship between money and well-being, have decided to go to the nub of the matter and measure happiness itself.

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Statisticians trawl through the vast quantities of data these surveys produce rather as miners panning for gold. They are trying to find the answer to the perennial question: what makes people happy?

Four main factors, it seems: gender, personality, external circumstances and age.
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Then there is the role of circumstance. All sorts of things in people’s lives, such as relationships, education, income and health, shape the way they feel. Being married gives people a considerable uplift, but not as big as the gloom that springs from being unemployed.

Here is an interesting bit about who is happy in the US-RG

In America, being black used to be associated with lower levels of happiness—though the most recent figures suggest that being black or Hispanic is nowadays associated with greater happiness. People with children in the house are less happy than those without. More educated people are happier, but that effect disappears once income is controlled for. Education, in other words, seems to make people happy because it makes them richer. And richer people are happier than poor ones—though just how much is a source of argument (see article).

There is always a possibility that variations are the result not of changes during the life-course, but of differences between cohorts. A 70-year-old European may feel different to a 30-year-old not because he is older, but because he grew up during the second world war and was thus formed by different experiences. But the accumulation of data undermines the idea of a cohort effect.

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Happiness doesn’t just make people happy—it also makes them healthier. John Weinman, professor of psychiatry at King’s College London, monitored the stress levels of a group of volunteers and then inflicted small wounds on them. [Talk about taking one in the name of science, ouch.-RG] The wounds of the least stressed healed twice as fast as those of the most stressed. At Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburg, Sheldon Cohen infected people with cold and flu viruses. He found that happier types were less likely to catch the virus, and showed fewer symptoms of illness when they did. So although old people tend to be less healthy than younger ones, their cheerfulness may help counteract their crumbliness.

Happier people are more productive, too. Mr Oswald and two colleagues, Eugenio Proto and Daniel Sgroi, cheered up a bunch of volunteers by showing them a funny film, then set them mental tests and compared their performance to groups that had seen a neutral film, or no film at all. The ones who had seen the funny film performed 12% better.

This leads to two conclusions. First, if you are going to volunteer for a study, choose the economists’ experiment rather than the psychologists’ or psychiatrists’. :lol Second, the cheerfulness of the old should help counteract their loss of productivity through declining cognitive skills—a point worth remembering as the world works out how to deal with an ageing workforce.

The ageing of the rich world is normally seen as a burden on the economy and a problem to be solved. The U-bend argues for a more positive view of the matter. The greyer the world gets, the brighter it becomes—a prospect which should be especially encouraging to Economist readers (average age 47).

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BlackSwordsMan
12-16-2010, 02:16 PM
After obama fucks up this country even worse I'll forgive him in 60 years.
good to know

JackLalanne
12-16-2010, 02:40 PM
I don't have enough years left to forgive GWB but juicin' keeps me happy.

ChuckD
12-16-2010, 09:35 PM
I see this as being for two reasons:

1) They don't have to go to adult day care...er...work anymore.
2) They become socialized and learn how to deal with people, minimizing conflict.

I do see #2 going away with this generation, though. They barely interact face to face, and are awful at picking up social cues and figuring out who's cool and who's a dork. They'll be using Mindbook when they're 70, and never talking to a soul face to face.

I have a co-worker who's daughter was MySpacing this TOTAL LOSER from Oregon. It took her like 2 years to figure out that this dork was a dork. They interacted really well online, but he moved to Austin to be with here and they fought constantly. He moved away, and they went back to MySpace, and got involved again. He gave her a ring. They fought some more, and she finally broke off the engagement like maybe 5 months ago.

Young people, anyone can act like anyone online, when they have a chance to compose and edit what they say. If you get a bad vibe in person, walk away and end it. There are certain personality cues that you aren't even aware of picking up that you ONLY get face to face. This isn't only applicable to social networking. That cute guy/gal at school/work that you think is hot? If you text a lot, but he/she is a dick/bitch in person, they are a dick/bitch.

KapitanTutan
12-17-2010, 12:11 AM
not if they're fucking broke

hitmanyr2k
12-18-2010, 02:17 PM
Being happy when you get older depends on the decisions you make in your young adulthood. If you're the class clown, lazy, or a fuck up in general it's most likely gonna come back to bite you in the ass when you get older.

Rip-Hamilton32
12-19-2010, 02:43 AM
my grandma is 83 doesn't remember anyone in our family and lives a in a nursing home where she is afraid everyday she wakes up in a random room, i doubt shes happy

DeadlyDynasty
12-19-2010, 02:57 AM
my grandma is 83 doesn't remember anyone in our family and lives a in a nursing home where she is afraid everyday she wakes up in a random room, i doubt shes happy

This. I come across a lot of old people in my line of work (roughly 80% of the patients we get) and they are more often than not, miserable. The elderly are on more antidepressants than teens (yes, they are) and I believe they are the #2 demographic when it comes to suicide.

Sure, there's some happy seniors, but not as many as the study would have you believe.

RandomGuy
01-04-2011, 09:46 AM
Bump. Simply because someone brought the topic up in another thread.