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Indazone
12-18-2010, 09:37 AM
Dr. Walt Lowe:

On the likelihood that Yao Ming can play again without future stress fractures: “I think that’s a question that doesn’t have an answer. Probably. A stress fracture, as you guys know, has to heal and the thing about this is different is this is related to an injury fairly recently and so I think that’s a question that just doesn’t have an answer.”

On talking to Yao Ming about the injury: “We’re saying ‘Hey Yao, you know, this needs to get treated.’ We’re talking to the foot and ankle guys about getting it treated and about the appropriate courses with that. So it needs to get treated. It needs to heal. It needs to be rehabbed right, brought back right, all those things. Is this something that I would say, hey, you’ve got no chance of every playing again, no, absolutely not.”

On what needs to be done to heal Yao’s injury: “Well, the usual case with this would be surgery. It’s a stress fracture and its in a location that the typical course (would be surgery). Has that decision been made yet, no. But the usual medial stress fracture is one that you would fix (with surgery).”

On if this year’s injury is a result of last year’s injury: “Well, last year was an osteotomy of his foot to make it flatter and help distribute the stresses more. But, I think you have to say, yeah, this is related to the previous issues Yao has had with his foot and the surgeries he’s had.”

More details on last year’s surgery relating to this year’s injury: “Well, it is a transfer of stresses that this big osteotomy moved his heel bone around to shift them into a different place and now his body has to take those new stresses to a new area. So, anytime they do something to change it or you see something else come from it, I don’t see any way you can say it’s not related to it.”

On if this will increase the likelihood of future stress fractures on Yao’s foot: “Well, when you look at the course of Yao’s career, stress fractures have been a part of his foot. To say he’s not at a risk to continue to have stress fractures would be crazy. So he is at a continued risk. The new position of his foot should unload his foot and make those stresses lower. We still have this injury back in Washington as a part of this injury to factor into it.”

On if this new injury needs “restructuring” surgery like his previous injury from last year: “No. No, this is a fracture that’s not displaced, so it’s still anatomically located and it’s one to provide fixation so it won’t displace and at the same time create a healing response inside that fracture, so it will heal. So it’s not a corrective osteotomy or moving his foot around, it’s just fixing it where it is.”

On how bad this stress fracture really is: “I don’t think there’s any word for it. I think no one is happy that Yao has any stress fracture for sure. At the same time if you ask me is this better or worse than having another navicular stress fracture, I’d say I’d rather have this one than that one. There have been stress fractures that guys have come back from in this league, too.”

On if this injury was already present when Yao was injured back in Washington: “I think it’s manifested itself since then. This was sort of an ankle sprain with bone bruising it sounds like. The MRI done up in Indianapolis, then brought back here and then really not progressing from a rehab standpoint which stimulated the new studies done yesterday that revealed a stress fracture.”

On if the fracture was hidden by the bone bruise: “You know it should not. A bone bruise is basically fluid or adema in bone and you can see fracture lines in that adema and you see those all the time with fractures. So, I don’t think it’s somewhat fluid in the bone obscured the fracture at all, you would see that.”

On if this fracture occurred sometime between the two MRIs: “Well, it manifested itself as a stress fracture, so it progressed to the point between the two MRI’s, yes.”

Daryl Morey

On if he is concerned about Yao ever returning: “Well, I think, as the doctor said, this is an injury that players come back from. We’re still gathering data to know on the likelihood and the prognosis. I think that’s something we’re still learning. I think it is too soon to know where we go from here, exactly, with Yao Ming.”

On how it will affect his plans this season without Yao Ming: “Well, I think , overall we’ve been preparing for this possibility, obviously as doctor said and we’ve talked to Dr. Lowe and Dr. Clanton and all the folks. Also Dr. Yazuki, close to working with Yao Ming. We’ve obviously known he’s (Yao Ming) been prone to possible future inures. So, as you can tell in our preparation, our signings, our trades, our draft picks. We’ve prepared a team to sort of work with Yao Ming and work without, both at a player level and mentality level. I think we have a very resilient group. They’ve been able to fight through injuries and have had winning seasons without both Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady last year. This year obviously we’re gonna have Yao Ming for mostly not this whole season. We feel like we have a resilient group to work for guys that can fight through injuries and we feel like we’ve got a young team that each day they play, they’re better than the day before. Not a team that’s declining but a team that’s improving.

Dr. Lowe:

On if there is any way Yao may not need surgery: “Sure. Stress fractures do heal with prolonged periods of unloading and crutches and non-laboring and those kind of things. So I think those things all have to be debated with Yao and sort of go through the whole process like you would with anybody that needs or should have a surgical procedure. I’d say yes, there’s a potential it would, but the likelihood that fixing it would lead to more certainty in it healing and also much quicker.”

On if this injury has any acute issues with it: “No, this definitely has no acute issues associated with it. So, I think there’s plenty of time to get all the bright minds of foot and ankle in the country together and look at it and talk to Yao and come up with a course of treatment that his doctors and Yao both believe in.”

On what kind of rest Yao should take after this injury: “I’m not the foot and ankle guy, which is okay. But, at the same time I do think the suggestion or the usual course of action for this particular stress fracture, which is a vertical fracture through the medial malleolus is that it would be fixed. I think that’s the smartest course of action. I’d put it in one of those 4-6 month recoveries. For a stress fracture to heal completely, it should take that 3-4 month period, and then there’s, as you saw with some other things in Yao, a very slow, progressive return to higher and higher unloading. So, that’s for sure in that 4-6 month window after it’s fixed.

On what Yao’s rehab would look like: “In the foot there’s not a lot of rehab. It’s range of motion, strengthening of the tendons that surround it, so it’s not as complicated of a rehab as a knee or a shoulder or some of the things you guys see fairly frequently out there. What has to happen in the foot is healing because the foot is skin, bones and tendons, so it doesn’t have a lot of muscles surrounding it. Those things that lead to a more vibrant healing anatomy. So you have to let it heal. You have to keep the motion. You have to get the swelling down. Then after the healing is there, you have to progressively load. That means there’s partial weight bearing, then more weight bearing, the same process you guys have seen him go through before. There’s not a cookbook protocol that says after this fracture you do this on Day 1, Day 2, Day 3. It’s a very progressive loading and the bigger the guys are, the more issues there have been with stress fractures or related issues, the slower you would go in that progressive loading process.”

Daryl Morey:

On Yao’s future: “I think until we learn more, we still see Yao Ming as the potential future of our team. We need to continue to talk to the doctors and see where that goes. So obviously Yao Ming is an All-Star center and if you look throughout the league, there’s not many of them. If it looks like there’s a good prognosis here and we’re still learning how good that prognosis will be, for sure we’re going to look at Yao Ming past this season.”

On Yao’s spirit: “I think he’s appropriately taking a step back and saying I want to hear all of my options and all the facts. That hasn’t happened yet. Doctors like Dr. Lowe, Dr. Yakuzi, Dr. Clanton, they’re all still conferring and he’ll get multiple opinions before he takes a course of action. I think he’s obviously taking the news hard just like we are, just like Rockets fans, just like everybody. I think for those who know Yao Ming, like many in this room, when there’s tough news, he sort of cracks jokes and things like that. He was doing that yesterday. He’s in good spirits. I think obviously when he’s not around others I’m sure it’s pretty tough to digest this news. As much as he’s been off the court and how much he cares about his teammates, the fans and the Rockets, it’s probably pretty tough for him.”

On how big of a setback this is for the Rockets: “Well, I think we’ve been, as we’ve said, preparing for this as well as we can. I think you need great players in this league to win. We’ve got a lot of players we believe in on this team. Yao Ming is very unique. There’s no Yao Ming store that we can go to to get another one with his abilities. So, it’s definitely a setback. It’s definitely a setback that we don’t have him this season. We felt like this season, where we could make this a special season was Yao Ming comes back and people step up on our team. Maybe there was a move that’s made and felt like we could really make some noise this season. We still feel like we’re a team that can make the playoffs this season. We feel like we’re fighting with about 4 or 5 other teams for the 7th or 8th seed this season. I know our guys in the locker room aren’t writing this season off. I know I’m not. I know Coach Adelman isn’t. We still think this can be a great season. Obviously the news yesterday was negative, it wasn’t positive.”

djohn2oo8
12-18-2010, 09:40 AM
Why do you post shit no one cares about? Take it back to clutchfans

djohn2oo8
12-18-2010, 09:41 AM
It's over, let it go

Indazone
12-18-2010, 09:43 AM
Seven-time All-Star Yao Ming sat out last season after surgery to repair his broken left foot.

http://www.chron.com/photos/2010/10/30/24474419/260xStory.jpg

Rockets center Yao Ming is certainly done for the season. What’s less certain is whether his career will end, too.

Rockets team physician Dr. Walter Lowe said Friday that surgery to repair a fracture in Yao’s left ankle would be the “usual course of action” and “the smartest course of action.” Surgery would require seven to 10 months of rehabilitation to return to the court.
Yao, 30, has not chosen a treatment plan and could opt to immobilize his left foot in the hope it heals on its own.

Either way, Lowe said Yao’s latest stress fracture is not career-ending. It would not require the sort of reconstructive surgery Yao underwent in 2009. The pins used to help the fracture heal would also help prevent it from breaking again.
But Lowe could not say that if Yao came back he would not be prone to suffering another fracture.

“That’s a question that doesn’t have an answer,” Lowe said. “Is this something I would say, ‘Hey, you have no chance to ever play again.’ No, absolutely not.

Likely always at risk
“When you look at the course of Yao’s career, stress fractures have been a part of his foot. To say he’s not at a risk to continue to have stress fractures would be crazy. He is at a continued risk.”

Yao plans to meet with specialists, including Dr. Tom Clanton, who performed his 2009 surgery, to consider his options, including whether to attempt to play again.

“It’s really sad,” coach Rick Adelman said. “You have to really feel for him. He’s worked so hard to come back. Then to have this happen when last week he was talking about if he could just get out and play pretty soon. To get the news like that, you really, really feel for him.”

General manager Daryl Morey said Yao is in the Rockets’ plans, though those plans seem to be more about hope than planning.

“This is an injury players come back from,” Morey said. “We are still gathering data to know the likelihood and prognosis. I think it’s too soon to know where we go from here with Yao Ming.

“Until we know more, I still see Yao Ming as a potential, future part of the team. We need to continue to talk to the doctors and see where that goes.

“Obviously, Yao Ming is an All-Star center. There’s not many of them.”

Petition for relief
The Rockets could petition the league for a disabled player exception worth, if granted, half of an injured player’s salary up to the mid-level exception, worth $5.765 million this season. The Rockets exercised this exception when Yao was out for all of last season for Trevor Ariza’s contract.

With this in mind, there is a significant question about when the fracture occurred. Lowe said the fracture manifested itself in the weeks since Yao’s MRI on Nov. 11, but was likely caused by the injury Nov. 10. He said the bruise would not have kept doctors from seeing a fracture.

If it is determined to have occurred since Nov. 30, the Rockets would have until next October to use the exception. If it is ruled to have occurred Nov. 10, they would have 45 days from when it is granted.

Lowe said the stress fracture discovered Thursday was related to the 2009 fracture and surgery, even though they occurred in different areas of the foot.

The surgery to flatten Yao’s left foot relieved the stress from the area that had fractured on several occasions, but could have transferred that stress to the inside of the ankle.
It’s just a game

“No one is happy Yao has any kind of a stress fracture,” Lowe said. “At the same time, you ask me if this is better or worse than having another navicular stress fracture, I would say I’d rather have this one than that one. It’s a stress fracture guys come back from.”

Morey said the Rockets had based their planning on the possibility Yao would not come back from injuries, even choosing players they believed would have the resilience to play well despite key injuries.

Rockets players said Friday that their concern was not about playing without Yao, but just about Yao.

“You feel badly for him,” Shane Battier said. “The guy has had a bad string of injuries. Forget basketball. Right now it’s about quality of life for him. That’s the most important thing.

“My first reaction wasn’t about the team, it was about Yao. You want a guy like that to win in the end.”

The question is if this is the end.

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/7344596.html

Zelophehad
12-18-2010, 09:46 AM
I got as far as "Dr." before I stopped giving a shit.

djohn2oo8
12-18-2010, 09:49 AM
I think Indazone is delusional enough to think he will actually play again

Indazone
12-18-2010, 09:50 AM
Post-Yao Rockets already here
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/22903/post-yao-rockets-already-here

POST YAO ROCKETS ALREADY HERE

By John Hollinger

It's tempting to wonder, "What will the Rockets do now that Yao Ming is out for the year?"

In reality, they were already doing it. In case you hadn't noticed, Houston has completely transformed itself into an up-tempo outfit, playing the league's fifth-fastest pace even with waterbug point guard Aaron Brooks sidelined for most of the year. And they've done it well enough to rank tenth in the NBA in Offensive Efficiency heading into Friday's blowout of Memphis.

Moreover, while an 11-15 record doesn't sound promising, Houston has scored more points than it has allowed and played a tougher-than-average schedule thus far. No, they won't be ripping off a 22-game winning streak, but the Playoff Odds tool gives Houston a roughly 50-50 chance of making the playoffs, and the tool doesn't know how little Brooks has played thus far.

So the Rockets will survive in the short-term. They were two games over .500 without Yao a year ago and may repeat the performance this year.

A second question is what becomes of their status as contenders in the West, but that's something that's old news in Houston as well. The Rockets have been trying to put together a deal for another star player for eons and rival GMs say they've been among the most active teams again this year; presumably, all that commotion wasn't just so they could land Terrence Williams.

Williams, in fact, is a piece in a larger Houston strategy of trying to convert some of its many red chips into a blue chip. The Rockets have depth to spare at several positions, with the addition of Williams creating a crowd at the wings and first-round pick Patrick Patterson stuck so far down the depth chart he was assigned to the D-League. What they don't have, despite banner years from Kevin Martin and Luis Scola, is an A-list star; while the Rockets have more or less waved the white flag on any Carmelo Anthony pursuits, they're certain to jump in with both feet the next time a player of that caliber comes available.

So on those levels little changes with Yao's injury. However, the more interesting dilemma presented is nearly the exact one facing Portland with Greg Oden -- both players are free agents, and it's difficult to assign a market value to a player who has hardly played in two years. Yao's enormous cap hold creates another confounding element, because it will tie up all of Houston's cap room until either his status is resolved or the Rockets renounce his rights. The Rockets can have enough cap space to sign a max free agent if they let Yao and Brooks walk after the season, so Yao is a huge part of their offseason strategy. It goes without saying that some emotion is tied up in this as well -- Yao is basically synonymous with Rockets basketball at this point, and I've yet to find a soul with anything bad to say about him.

I don't profess to know what his market value is in the wake of such enormous uncertainty, but I'd be shocked if it was less than the midlevel exception, and it's possible it's considerably more. In other words, it will be virtually impossible for the Rockets to both keep Yao and sign a major free agent.

As a result, the real impact of Yao's injury isn't to affect their strategy with their current roster, because they'd shifted gears on that front a long time ago. It's whether his injury makes it more palatable for the Rockets to make a break with the past and risk losing Yao to take a dip in the deep end of the free-agent pool.

Indazone
12-18-2010, 09:53 AM
No worse off than the Blazers...enough pieces to make a run and all we need is a defensive center. We have enough offense to make a splash..

If Yao does make it back, it's just gravy.

djohn2oo8
12-18-2010, 10:01 AM
No worse off than the Blazers...enough pieces to make a run and all we need is a defensive center. We have enough offense to make a splash..

If Yao does make it back, it's just gravy.

Wow, just wow! Keep living in the world of denial, we do need a defensive center, but the team has to play d on a consistent basis. The only run we would make would be grabbing the 8th seed if lucky

resistanze
12-18-2010, 10:36 AM
I hope he retires, for his sake.

Kai
12-18-2010, 01:28 PM
Well we have Yao, Battier and Jefferies coming off the books this year. That's $32 million dollars in expirings. We have a ~$5 trade exception and we'll most likely get an injury exception for Yao. We have draft picks and more young players that need playing time than we can provide. We are very poised to make a major move.

jag
12-18-2010, 01:40 PM
No worse off than the Blazers...enough pieces to make a run and all we need is a defensive center. We have enough offense to make a splash..

If Yao does make it back, it's just gravy.

So all you need is a franchise player at center. Seems like an easy fix.

SpursDynasty85
12-18-2010, 01:43 PM
Thats a funny anthony peeler video you have. I remember him, he was pretty good.

It looked like garnett was joking but then peeler said "b*tch" Garnett looked so surprised and emberassed. lol good for peeler.

noob cake
12-18-2010, 02:00 PM
Yao just fucken retire. Sign as a coach so Les can continue to make his $$$. Then ask Stern for that exception. Besides, I doubt Stern would want Yao to quit NBA and go back to China.

DieHardSpursFan1537
12-18-2010, 02:36 PM
I stopped reading after "stress fracture".

djohn2oo8
12-18-2010, 02:47 PM
Well we have Yao, Battier and Jefferies coming off the books this year. That's $32 million dollars in expirings. We have a ~$5 trade exception and we'll most likely get an injury exception for Yao. We have draft picks and more young players that need playing time than we can provide. We are very poised to make a major move.

There's nobody out there to make a major move for

duncan228
12-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Rockets off and running without Yao (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/18/rockets-off-and-running-without-yao/)
Kurt Helin

Here’s the little thing everyone has missed while talking about Yao Ming for the past couple years — without him the Rockets are one of the league’s more entertaining teams.

In the last two seasons — save for the handful of games Yao played — the Rockets have become a running team. Right now they play at the sixth fastest pace in the league and that has been without Aaron Brooks — the speedy point guard made for a running offense — who has been out with a severely sprained ankle.

The Rockets are a pretty good offensive team — they are currently eighth in the league in offensive efficiency (points per 100 possessions). Their defense is not so good (21st) but that just leads to more watchable, high scoring games. Luis Scola and Kevin Martin can fill it up on any given night, and Shane Battier is underrated on offense.

Make no mistake this is not a good team — they are 11-15 now but as John Hollinger points out (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/22903/post-yao-rockets-already-here) have had to do it against a pretty tough schedule. They will probably finish around .500 and flirt with the eighth seed in the West.

Rockets GM Daryl Morey has some big picture decisions to make — with Yao essentially done (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/16/yao-ming-out-for-rest-of-season-with-stress-fracture-in-his-ankle/) as a Rocket and a guy you build around, the long-term direction of the team is in question. Build through the draft and with young players essentially blowing this team up, or get a star that can lead this quality group of role players. A long-term direction needs to be chosen.

But for now, the Rockets remain a decent and entertaining team to watch. Which is a step ahead of half of the league.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/18/rockets-off-and-running-without-yao/

Indazone
12-18-2010, 04:28 PM
I would take Thabeet if we can get him. That would be like Dikembe Mutumbo part II.

frodo
12-19-2010, 12:24 AM
rockets are beginning to play good now that jinx's deceased

MaNu4Tres
12-19-2010, 01:21 AM
Dr. Lowe's is a damn good doctor :tu

He reconstructed my right ACL nearly 3 years ago and did a damn good job. Haven't had any problems since.

Yao is in good hands. ( Even if he is pretty much done.)

Kai
12-19-2010, 02:58 AM
There's nobody out there to make a major move for

You've been watching sports long enough to know that a lot of times the big deals come out of nowhere. With that being said, I'm in no way predicting that we make a blockbuster deal that catapults us into contention. It's just nice knowing we have the ability to keep all of our options open.

djohn2oo8
12-19-2010, 08:21 AM
You've been watching sports long enough to know that a lot of times the big deals come out of nowhere. With that being said, I'm in no way predicting that we make a blockbuster deal that catapults us into contention. It's just nice knowing we have the ability to keep all of our options open.

Truth, and now we have alot of money coming off the books at the end of the season, no more albatross contracts (hopefully)