UNBIASED and up to date list of players BETTER than Tim Duncan

[lebomb]

LMAO................. Sons, the Hornets will not even exist in New Orleans next year. So who cares what B. Hornet thinks sons. Sons, that there is tha troof sons. :hat

[fevertrees]

who is primofan?

primofan is a god amongst men in the porn bootlegging world.. lol



put me on to Rachael Starr.. I owe him my life for that.

[Tp9gospursgo]

Yeah, but it has nothing to with Duncan's play. He's playing like a piece of shit right now, and has been for years.

Not really.

[Agloco]

umm..yeah

tbh it's Memphis...you could get Randolph for Chris Quinn

When it comes to Memphis, Lakerfan knows trades like these all too well........

[Dunc n Dave]

19.6 pts,
10.8 boards,
3.0 asts,
1.66 blks,
on 50% FG%
last 3 years in the playoffs (where he plays more minutes than regular season)

If Tim in no longer a Top 10 (or Top 40 player, as you state) player, please show me 10 guys with better overall playoff stats than those the last 3 years...

[ChumpDumper]

lol 7 blocks

[Man In Black]

Tim is like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1985. On Cruise-Control until money time. He'll be there.

Question? How is is possible to have both Manu's stats and Tony's stats to go up exponentially and yet keep Tim's status quo? The Spurs have run and they've played half-court and even when Paul Westhead was running with Orlando Woolridge and Micheal Adams, even that offense could only produce 4 players with close to 20 PPG. So how is it possible for Tim if the pace isn't THAT FAST?
It ain't and the Spurs and their fans are cool with it because the results support that the team is better because of it.
It's like that stat that says when the Bean shoots over 30 shots, the LAL and their bandwagon suffers because of the losses it causes.

[BRHornet45]

Tim is like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1985. On Cruise-Control until money time. He'll be there.

Question? How is is possible to have both Manu's stats and Tony's stats to go up exponentially and yet keep Tim's status quo? The Spurs have run and they've played half-court and even when Paul Westhead was running with Orlando Woolridge and Micheal Adams, even that offense could only produce 4 players with close to 20 PPG. So how is it possible for Tim if the pace isn't THAT FAST?
It ain't and the Spurs and their fans are cool with it because the results support that the team is better because of it.
It's like that stat that says when the Bean shoots over 30 shots, the LAL and their bandwagon suffers because of the losses it causes.

son that is an absolutely horrible comparison. Kareem was 38 years old in 1985! aka over 4 years older than Duncan is right now and even then he was still putting up about 10 points more per game than Duncan.

for a fair and legit comparison, whenever they were both 34 years old ...

Duncan 13 and 9

Kareem 24 and 8

[kamikazi_player]

Wow, BRHornet has gone senile

[Mr.Robinson]

Tim Duncan will be at 16/10/2 by the end of year. Not bad for someone playing 29 mins a game.

[history2b]

Tim is like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1985. On Cruise-Control until money time. He'll be there.

Question? How is is possible to have both Manu's stats and Tony's stats to go up exponentially and yet keep Tim's status quo? The Spurs have run and they've played half-court and even when Paul Westhead was running with Orlando Woolridge and Micheal Adams, even that offense could only produce 4 players with close to 20 PPG. So how is it possible for Tim if the pace isn't THAT FAST?
It ain't and the Spurs and their fans are cool with it because the results support that the team is better because of it.
It's like that stat that says when the Bean shoots over 30 shots, the LAL and their bandwagon suffers because of the losses it causes.


Lol, Don't ever disrespect the game or Kareem like that again Dipshit.

That's one of the stupidest things I've read on Spurstalk.

First of all Kareem was 37 going on 38 years old. That's 3 years younger than Tim.

Second, Kareem was still the elite post scorer in the game scoring 20+ per usual while shooting a blistering 60%. He was still the focal point of the offense in the half court set. He finished 4th in the MVP voting for the regular season just behind Larry, Magic and Moses....

Tim Duncan cock sucking morons should not draw comparisons of this nature as they prove continually to be among the most ignorant the world has ever seen.

[Cry Havoc]

son that is an absolutely horrible comparison. Kareem was 38 years old in 1985! aka over 4 years older than Duncan is right now and even then he was still putting up about 10 points more per game than Duncan.

for a fair and legit comparison, whenever they were both 34 years old ...

Duncan 13 and 9

Kareem 24 and 8

Spurs run a 106 ppg pace

Lakers ran a 118 ppg pace.

Duncan is playing 29 minutes so he's rested for playoffs.

Kareem led his team in minutes played that year and averaged 33+ per game.

Soooo he was getting more possessions in more minutes against weaker competition, and you wonder why he was scoring more than Duncan?

By the way, your stats are wrong. Kareem averaged 22 and 8, not 24. :toast

http://palmgoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/the_more_you_know2.jpg

[z0sa]

:lol Tim haters are a bunch of clowns. His minutes and touches are both down on purpose: we're playing for a title, and he can't carry us on his back all season and still be fresh for the POs. :lmao @ you dumbasses.

[WeNeedLength]

Haters gotta hate on something because when you're 23-3 there ain't shit you can say about the team. Might as well belittle the pieces instead of whole. The more they hate, the more they fear the spur.

[fevertrees]

I just don't get this "resting for the playoffs" excuse. We are only a 1/4 through the season and Duncan has to be rested for playoffs? PLAYOFFS?

[rayjayjohnson]

lol @ duncan nutthuggers making excuses for him being old and past it.

[rayjayjohnson]

http://photos.killervirgo.com/monique_precious_nosalad.gif

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
love it

[history2b]

:lol Tim haters are a bunch of clowns. His minutes and touches are both down on purpose: we're playing for a title, and he can't carry us on his back all season and still be fresh for the POs. :lmao @ you dumbasses.


Then he is not pulling a 1985 Kareem, who carried a big load of the Lakers offense during the regular season and destroyed teams in the playoffs even at 38 years of age.

Tim and Kareem have nothing in common.

It disgusts me that anyone here would even suggest it.

[z0sa]

I didn't even mention Kareem, frontrunner.

[WeNeedLength]

Then he is not pulling a 1985 Kareem, who carried a big load of the Lakers offense during the regular season and destroyed teams in the playoffs even at 38 years of age.

Tim and Kareem have nothing in common.

It disgusts me that anyone here would even suggest it.

Cool story bro. I'm glad you are disgusted by words on a screen. LMAO :lmao
Don't get too sick now, you might shat yoself.

[Sense]

This thread is a perfect example of someone who knows absolute SHIT about basketball.

How fucking sad.

[Man In Black]

Lol, Don't ever disrespect the game or Kareem like that again Dipshit.

That's one of the stupidest things I've read on Spurstalk.

First of all Kareem was 37 going on 38 years old. That's 3 years younger than Tim.

Second, Kareem was still the elite post scorer in the game scoring 20+ per usual while shooting a blistering 60%. He was still the focal point of the offense in the half court set. He finished 4th in the MVP voting for the regular season just behind Larry, Magic and Moses....

Tim Duncan cock sucking morons should not draw comparisons of this nature as they prove continually to be among the most ignorant the world has ever seen.

You used the word COCK again and you used STATS. I'll say it again...STATS. Didn't you once tell me that stats are worthless? :lmao ownage

One little typo and you bitches go in a tizzy. Let's use 1987.
Captain Skyhook went 14.6 PPG & 6 RPG. His defense went into the toilet for the regular season. He only got 92 blocks that season.
Duncan has 55 in 26 games played, he got 7 alone in the Milwaukee game. He's rebounding at 9.5 per so far so...TRY AGAIN.

Anytime you want to talk hoops, stats, or anything Spurs related...bring it. All you're really good at is histrionics...Historectumee.

[LkrFan]

http://photos.killervirgo.com/monique_precious_nosalad.gif
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[LkrFan]

Spurfan has a hard time dealing with reality. Tim Duncan is a role player now, no shame in that after the career he's had.

Manu Ginobili: 19.8ppg
Tony Parker: 17.9 ppg
Richard Jefferson: 14.0 ppg
Tim Duncan: 13.9 ppg

They're almost 1/3 of the way through the season and Duncan is clearly the 4th option.

These are facts.

Trying to deny this only perpetuates your butthurt faggotry even more. Who would have thought that Spurfan would be more trollable than Lakerfan? Spurfan earns the butthurt champions of the year title with this thread alone, imho, tbh, fwiw, ibtl.
Solid post. Post more often. :toast

[LkrFan]

son that is an absolutely horrible comparison. Kareem was 38 years old in 1985! aka over 4 years older than Duncan is right now and even then he was still putting up about 10 points more per game than Duncan.

for a fair and legit comparison, whenever they were both 34 years old ...

Duncan 13 and 9

Kareem 24 and 8
BR with the goods - per usual. I am a fan of Timmy. I've gone on record to say he is my favorite non-Laker of all time. I would have even traded Shaq for him if I were MK*. However, Cap even at 38 was better than 2010 TD. Cap played in the rough and rugged 1980's at 38 and still was beasting. He was very durable too. Bottom line, I get what Man In Black is trying to say with the comparison, but he is missing the mark, tbh.

*Before I get flamed for that comment, if you think Kobe/Pau are beasting right now, imagine having a 21 year old Kobe + 23 year old Timmy for at least 10 years - and you'll catch my drift). If TD could be the anchor for a decade long 50+ win teams without Kobe, imagine him with him. But that's another thread all by itself.

[Zelophehad]

I'd like to troll spurs fans, but I'm not going to be retarded to do it; Duncan's advanced statistics are all of the charts. He's playing like an All-Star tbh.

[LkrFan]

Spurs run a 106 ppg pace

Lakers ran a 118 ppg pace.

Duncan is playing 29 minutes so he's rested for playoffs.

Kareem led his team in minutes played that year and averaged 33+ per game.

Soooo he was getting more possessions in more minutes against weaker competition, and you wonder why he was scoring more than Duncan?

By the way, your stats are wrong. Kareem averaged 22 and 8, not 24. :toast

http://palmgoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/the_more_you_know2.jpg
I agree with you except for the bolded. I would hardly call any contending team in the '80's inferior competition. The league wasn't watered down with the likes of the Hornets, Heat, T'Pups, Grizzlies, or Magic. They also didn't have high risers that could dunk go straight to the pros from HS either. In other words, competition was fierce. None of that pussy ass flagrant foul shit either. So for Cap to even give the Lakers 22/8 at age in the above circumstances dwarfs what TD is doing right now by 3 country miles .

And LMAO about "the more you know" pic. That's some funny shit. :lol

[Man In Black]

It's not the same LF. We're talking about a league where opposing players already have a decided advantage due to the way the NBA favors offense over defense. Couple that with the fact that for most of TD's career, the pace of the game has favored ball-possesion overall and had placed the greatest emphasis on Duncan's ability to create out of the low-block. He didn't get any runout layups like Magic gave Kareem. He wasn't allowed to take a shot early in the clock, nor was he allowed to leak towards his basket on defense. I've watched Kareem, got to meet him once, had his poster on my wall. Is one of the best players of all-time and that skyhook hasn't been replicated at any level since. Sure players can jump hook, but not like Kareem could. That said...Tim's playing possum. For that to be effective, you have to look DEAD, when in reality, YOU CAN GET UP AND RUN THE WHOLE TIME if you wanted to.

[007nites]

Duncan is playing 29 minutes a game.

Pau Gasol: 39 minutes
Blake Griffin: 38 minutes
LaMarcus Aldridge: 38 mins
Zach Randolph: 36 mins
Dirk Nowitzki: 36 mins
David Lee: 36 mins
Kevin Love: 35 minutes
Paul Millsap: 35 minutes
Chris Bosh: 35 minutes
Lamar Odom: 35 minutes
David West: 34 minutes
Luis Scola: 33 minutes
Kevin Garnett: 32 mins
Tim Duncan: 29 minutes
Carlos Boozer: 29 minutes

[LkrFan]

It's not the same LF. We're talking about a league where opposing players already have a decided advantage due to the way the NBA favors offense over defense. Couple that with the fact that for most of TD's career, the pace of the game has favored ball-possesion overall and had placed the greatest emphasis on Duncan's ability to create out of the low-block. He didn't get any runout layups like Magic gave Kareem. He wasn't allowed to take a shot early in the clock, nor was he allowed to leak towards his basket on defense. I've watched Kareem, got to meet him once, had his poster on my wall. Is one of the best players of all-time and that skyhook hasn't been replicated at any level since. Sure players can jump hook, but not like Kareem could. That said...Tim's playing possum. For that to be effective, you have to look DEAD, when in reality, YOU CAN GET UP AND RUN THE WHOLE TIME if you wanted to.
Fair enough MIB. For your sake I hope that TD is coasting. He probably could be 17/10+ if Pop played him more so the 13/9 is a little deceiving (funny though :lol). It is smart to play TD limited minutes throughout the year and have Manu/TP do the heavy lifting during the RS. That way in the offs, if TD is in foul trouble, Manu/TP already have an idea on how to carry your team. However, the big elephant in the middle of the room that you guys are ignoring is Bonner and Blair. They are not on the level of LO, Pau, or Bynum and that is a major impediment that TD will have to somehow overcome for you guys to win. At his age and health, I don't see it happening for you guys. Y'all need to go out and trade for some size. In the offs it will be a halfcourt game. Those 3's that are raining for you guys will be few and far between once a team takes away what you want to do.

[007nites]

On a 36 min bases TD is averaging 17.1ppg, 11.7rpg, and 2.6bpg. It's obvious he has significantly declined but if he's given the minutes he can easily average a double-double with 15+ points.

[Sense]

Duncan is playing 29 minutes a game.

Pau Gasol: 39 minutes
Blake Griffin: 38 minutes
LaMarcus Aldridge: 38 mins
Zach Randolph: 36 mins
Dirk Nowitzki: 36 mins
David Lee: 36 mins
Kevin Love: 35 minutes
Paul Millsap: 35 minutes
Chris Bosh: 35 minutes
Lamar Odom: 35 minutes
David West: 34 minutes
Luis Scola: 33 minutes
Kevin Garnett: 32 mins
Tim Duncan: 29 minutes
Carlos Boozer: 29 minutes

This is exactly what all these trolls are missing the point on. No one in the Spurs organization, including Tim Duncan care about how many PPG or RPG he has on a nightly basis. The main focus since perhaps 2007 has been to rest our top 3 players and keep them injury free. 23-3 with Duncan playing 29 minutes a game? haha this is when you know all these guys are trolling, they should all be scared come playoff time.

[Booharv]

Duncan's PER is nearly 23, his win shares per 48 rate is exceptional, and his +/- is awesome. He's still one of the best big men in the league. He's declined a little, but its nothing to be concerned about. Its a shame many Spurs fans are so dumb and easily trolled.

[Man In Black]

Fair enough MIB. For your sake I hope that TD is coasting. He probably could be 17/10+ if Pop played him more so the 13/9 is a little deceiving (funny though :lol). It is smart to play TD limited minutes throughout the year and have Manu/TP do the heavy lifting during the RS. That way in the offs, if TD is in foul trouble, Manu/TP already have an idea on how to carry your team. However, the big elephant in the middle of the room that you guys are ignoring is Bonner and Blair. They are not on the level of LO, Pau, or Bynum and that is a major impediment that TD will have to somehow overcome for you guys to win. At his age and health, I don't see it happening for you guys. Y'all need to go out and trade for some size. In the offs it will be a halfcourt game. Those 3's that are raining for you guys will be few and far between once a team takes away what you want to do.

See, once in awhile...it's actually possible to talk hoops OBJECTIVELY with fans of opposing teams. This is how it's done.

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan's PER is nearly 23, his win shares per 48 rate is exceptional, and his +/- is awesome. He's still one of the best big men in the league. He's declined a little, but its nothing to be concerned about. Its a shame many Spurs fans are so dumb and easily trolled.

Spurs fans are more trollable than any fanbase I've ever seen, which shouldn't be the case, considering SpursTalk probably has more trolls than any other NBA team forum..

The trolling isn't even strictly from other posters, too..Spurs fans allow themselves to continuously get unintentionally trolled from media outlets all the time, obsessing over "respect from the media" and whatever..it's sad..

Only Laker fans are more defensive than Spurs fans, and even that's arguable..

[rayjayjohnson]

duncan's a fine player, he's just no longer a superstar.

users here just dont do themselves any favors.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

son I really am happy for Spurs fans. I have a lot of respect for that organization. The way Manu and Parker took over the team leadership from Duncan in 2007 is worthy of respect. This is not meant to bash Duncan, but just simply expose the facts. He had one hell of a 10 year run as the Spurs best player, but those days are long gone. It just sucks to see him falling off so quickly at such a young age. This started whenever he was only 30 years old.
Son, I'm glad you respect the team.

[mavs>spurs]

duncan's a fine player, he's just no longer a superstar.

users here just dont do themselves any favors.
duncan only plays 29min a game this season which says a lot. he just doesn't play so heavily as before but his efficiency remains good as ever be. he can still output 20+10 stats if he wants to imo, he just doesn't need to do that much as long as the youths are playing well and the team is winning.

[Rummpd]

20 and 15 and 3 blocks in less than 30 min again tonight = LOL

[Texas_Ranger]

Great thread!!!!!!!

[jag]

I'd like to troll spurs fans, but I'm not going to be retarded to do it; Duncan's advanced statistics are all of the charts. He's playing like an All-Star tbh.

He's declined but not to the degree that people keep hyping it.

[ChumpDumper]

lol duncan is done

[DPG21920]

No credibility. When you watch a team that loses in an empty arena, you have no credibility. You have to watch a winner to know things. This much I know.

[kamikazi_player]

:cry but they were facing the Suns:cry, this game furthers my point :cry Duncan should have 30/20 :cry

[Veterinarian]

Spurs fans are more trollable than any fanbase I've ever seen, which shouldn't be the case, considering SpursTalk probably has more trolls than any other NBA team forum..

The trolling isn't even strictly from other posters, too..Spurs fans allow themselves to continuously get unintentionally trolled from media outlets all the time, obsessing over "respect from the media" and whatever..it's sad..

Only Laker fans are more defensive than Spurs fans, and even that's arguable..

Its not just gnsf either, there's a lot of really dumbass bnsf as well. For an example, see lakaluva's followers.

[ChumpDumper]

No credibility. When you watch a team that loses in an empty arena, you have no credibility. You have to watch a winner to know things. This much I know.Eh, he can watch a shitty team no one else watches.

He just can't predict that team will win 65 games. :lmao

[jag]

No credibility. When you watch a team that loses in an empty arena, you have no credibility. You have to watch a winner to know things. This much I know.

It's ok, rich people in NO are going to buy a city's worth of tickets for the next five years.

[DPG21920]

I am going to buy all the tickets, then tear them up so no one is at the game.

[Texas_Ranger]

Now please tell me which of all those players will have 20/15/6/2/3 game in just 31 minutes????

[Veterinarian]

Now please tell me which of all those players will have 20/15/6/2/3 game in just 31 minutes????

lol trolled

[Hooks]

Duncan only plays when it matters.

[Stringer_Bell]

sons the fact of the matter is that Duncan started falling off around 2006-07 and has been on a steady downhill pace and looks so pathetic and weak this season riding the coattails of Manu's success with the Spurs.

The following players listed are currently better and contribute more to their teams than Duncan starting with his own teammates.

Pathetic and weak lol, you do have a point there son. I, a grey named Spurs fan, will buy into the stat line and start to lose faith in Duncan. Truth is, his mere presence alone wins games, and he makes plays and difficult shots throughout that continue to energize the team and fans. Anyone can be a 20 point/10 rebound machine on a shitty team that doesn't make it to the second round of playoffs, thank God the Spurs have evolved and now Duncan can be rested for the post season. Duncan shows up when it matters and he doesn't quit, which is more than the Lyin' King Lebron or Baby CP have done.

Winning is all that matters, Duncan following the natural course of decline (which is probably being extended thanks to lower minutes throughout the season due to the rest of the team flushing their balls down everyone's throats) isn't more important than how YOUR own team is doing. Tell us what's worth a damn in NOLA now that they've been exposed, tell us how they can win something - you can even use fiction to back up your fandom. God bless, sons.

[TE]

Pathetic and weak lol, you do have a point there son. I, a grey named Spurs fan, will buy into the stat line and start to lose faith in Duncan. Truth is, his mere presence alone wins games, and he makes plays and difficult shots throughout that continue to energize the team and fans. Anyone can be a 20 point/10 rebound machine on a shitty team that doesn't make it to the second round of playoffs, thank God the Spurs have evolved and now Duncan can be rested for the post season. Duncan shows up when it matters and he doesn't quit, which is more than the Lyin' King Lebron or Baby CP have done.

Winning is all that matters, Duncan following the natural course of decline (which is probably being extended thanks to lower minutes throughout the season due to the rest of the team flushing their balls down everyone's throats) isn't more important than how YOUR own team is doing. Tell us what's worth a damn in NOLA now that they've been exposed, tell us how they can win something - you can even use fiction to back up your fandom. God bless, sons.

:lmao:toast

[fevertrees]

Wait a minute the Hornets aren't a good team?

-f_DPrSEOEo

[Koolaid_Man]

another classic when BR used to be a closet Laker fan....