UNBIASED and up to date list of players BETTER than Tim Duncan

[BRHornet45]

sons this is simply a list that is based on current stats and facts. I'm sure the Duncan Nut-Huggers will try to spin it around listing Duncan inside the top 5 or top 10 by making idiotic comments like "it doesn't matter that he's only scoring 13 points a game, what he does in the locker room is priceless and puts him in the top 10!" or "what he did 10 years ago is enough to rank him inside the top 10!".... sons the fact of the matter is that Duncan started falling off around 2006-07 and has been on a steady downhill pace and looks so pathetic and weak this season riding the coattails of Manu's success with the Spurs.

The following players listed are currently better and contribute more to their teams than Duncan starting with his own teammates. It also should be noted that some players were not listed due to them having fluke years even though they still currently have better stats than Duncan. Each players standout stats are listed and the stats don't lie ...

Players Better than Tim Duncan

Spurs
Manu Ginobili 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
Tony Parker 18/7 - Duncan 13/9

Atlanta
Joe Johnson 17/5 - Duncan 13/9
Al Horford 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9

Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9
Carlos Boozer 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Dallas
Dirk Nowitzki 24/7 - Duncan 13/9

Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9

Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9

Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant 26/5 - Duncan 13/9
Pau Gasol 20/11 - Duncan 13/9
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9

Miami
Lebron James 24/7 - Duncan 13/9
Dwyane Wade 23/6 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9

Minnesota
Kevin Love 21/15 - Duncan 13/9
Michael Beasley 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Paul 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

New York
Amare Stoudemire 26/9 - Duncan 13/9
Raymond Felton 18/9 - Duncan 13/9

Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9
Russell Westbrook 23/8 - Duncan 13/9

Orlando
Dwight Howard 21/12 - Duncan 13/9

Phoenix
Steve Nash 17/10 - Duncan 13/9

Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge 18/8 - Duncan 13/9
(Brandon Roy would also get the nod if not for injuries)

Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

Utah
Deron Williams 22/9 - Duncan 13/9
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9

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so sons there it is. now give or take a couple of spots, but with those stats and facts exposed for this season ... Duncan is around the 44th best player in the NBA. amazing how far this guy has fallen off from once being the best power forward in the game.

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

The already-lame NBA Forum has become the "Lakaluva Obsessed Forum" and the "Tim Duncan is Getting Older - Duh! Forum"

We get it... you guys are butthurt that "Tim Duncan has massively declined" and the Spurs are still winning.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol

The already-lame NBA Forum has become the "Lakaluva Obsessed Forum" and the "Tim Duncan is Getting Older - Duh! Forum"

We get it... you guys are butthurt that "Tim Duncan has massively declined" and the Spurs are still winning.

It'll all end in May so enjoy the ride now. :tu

[BRHornet45]

:lol

The already-lame NBA Forum has become the "Lakaluva Obsessed Forum" and the "Tim Duncan is Getting Older - Duh! Forum"

We get it... you guys are butthurt that "Tim Duncan has massively declined" and the Spurs are still winning.

son I really am happy for Spurs fans. I have a lot of respect for that organization. The way Manu and Parker took over the team leadership from Duncan in 2007 is worthy of respect. This is not meant to bash Duncan, but just simply expose the facts. He had one hell of a 10 year run as the Spurs best player, but those days are long gone. It just sucks to see him falling off so quickly at such a young age. This started whenever he was only 30 years old.

[Red Hawk #21]

Tbh I was skeptical when reading the thread title, but this really is a legit list...

[BRHornet45]

Tbh I was skeptical when reading the thread title, but this really is a legit list...

son this post is NOT meant to be a trolling effort by any means. Its just simply exposing the facts. I spent about 20 minutes of my time posting this with the stats because I was curious to see for myself. I also have to admit that I was surprised to see just how many current players are blowing Duncan out the water.

[Ace]

son I really am happy for Spurs fans. I have a lot of respect for that organization. The way Manu and Parker took over the team leadership from Duncan in 2007 is worthy of respect. This is not meant to bash Duncan, but just simply expose the facts. He had one hell of a 10 year run as the Spurs best player, but those days are long gone. It just sucks to see him falling off so quickly at such a young age. This started whenever he was only 30 years old.
The queen has spoken. Stfu

[fevertrees]

Ariza for Duncan would be a fair trade IMHO

[ChumpDumper]

lol unbiased

[BRHornet45]

lol unbiased

son it is unbiased ... are you trying to say that I lied about the STATS? go and check each and everyone of them for yourself.

[NRHector]

sons this is simply a list that is based on current stats and facts. I'm sure the Duncan Nut-Huggers will try to spin it around listing Duncan inside the top 5 or top 10 by making idiotic comments like "it doesn't matter that he's only scoring 13 points a game, what he does in the locker room is priceless and puts him in the top 10!" or "what he did 10 years ago is enough to rank him inside the top 10!".... sons the fact of the matter is that Duncan started falling off around 2006-07 and has been on a steady downhill pace and looks so pathetic and weak this season riding the coattails of Manu's success with the Spurs.

The following players listed are currently better and contribute more to their teams than Duncan starting with his own teammates. It also should be noted that some players were not listed due to them having fluke years even though they still currently have better stats than Duncan. Each players standout stats are listed and the stats don't lie ...

Players Better than Tim Duncan

Spurs
Manu Ginobili 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
Tony Parker 18/7 - Duncan 13/9

Atlanta
Joe Johnson 17/5 - Duncan 13/9
Al Horford 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9

Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9
Carlos Boozer 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Dallas
Dirk Nowitzki 24/7 - Duncan 13/9

Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9

Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9

Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant 26/5 - Duncan 13/9
Pau Gasol 20/11 - Duncan 13/9
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9

Miami
Lebron James 24/7 - Duncan 13/9
Dwyane Wade 23/6 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9

Minnesota
Kevin Love 21/15 - Duncan 13/9
Michael Beasley 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Paul 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

New York
Amare Stoudemire 26/9 - Duncan 13/9
Raymond Felton 18/9 - Duncan 13/9

Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9
Russell Westbrook 23/8 - Duncan 13/9

Orlando
Dwight Howard 21/12 - Duncan 13/9

Phoenix
Steve Nash 17/10 - Duncan 13/9

Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge 18/8 - Duncan 13/9
(Brandon Roy would also get the nod if not for injuries)

Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

Utah
Deron Williams 22/9 - Duncan 13/9
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9

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so sons there it is. now give or take a couple of spots, but with those stats and facts exposed for this season ... Duncan is around the 44th best player in the NBA. amazing how far this guy has fallen off from once being the best power forward in the game.

come on Br you are reaching Lakaluva status

[ChumpDumper]

son it is unbiased ... are you trying to say that I lied about the STATS? go and check each and everyone of them for yourself.lol STATS

[DeadlyDynasty]

I didn't realize statistics were biased...looks like it's Spurfan who is butthurt, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't realize statistics were biased...looks like it's Spurfan who is butthurt, tbh.lol butthurt

[BRHornet45]

come on Br you are reaching Lakaluva status

son I posted FACTS ... how is that wrong?

[DPG21920]

The only stat that has decreased is minutes. He is every bit as productive when he plays minutes. Don't hate because the Spurs don't have to stat whore their players to lose to the Pistons :lol

[BRHornet45]

lol STATS

son you're saying they're not relevant at all? I left out numerous players who have BETTER stats than Duncan. I just included the ones who are better overall players right now.

[DeadlyDynasty]

lol butthurt

Your defensive replies in this thread certainly indicate it.

[ChumpDumper]

son you're saying they're not relevant at all? I left out numerous players who have BETTER stats than Duncan. I just included the ones who are better overall players right now.lol relevant

[BRHornet45]

The only stat that has decreased is minutes. He is every bit as productive when he plays minutes. Don't hate because the Spurs don't have to stat whore their players to lose to the Pistons :lol

denial at its finest ... son this has nothing to do with the suckass hornets. this is about individual numbers and Duncan isn't even in the top 40 best players right now.

[BRHornet45]

lol relevant

lol butthurt that your hero is no longer a top 40 NBA player

[ChumpDumper]

lol butthurt that your hero is no longer a top 40 NBA playerlol hero

lol butthurt

[weebo]

BR, son, I ask you this: as it stands now, if he could be had, would you take Tim Duncan on the Hornets? Explain why you would or why you wouldn't. Thanks.

[DPG21920]

Show me the minutes played for all players. To normalize this give the per 36 minute stats. Stat whoring for 10 extra minutes a game doesn't make someone better.

[WeNeedLength]

son you're saying they're not relevant at all? I left out numerous players who have BETTER stats than Duncan. I just included the ones who are better overall players right now.

So let me get this straight. As of right NOW, Memphis would decline a trade involving Duncan and Zack Randolph straight up? I'm just wondering...

[DeadlyDynasty]

So let me get this straight. As of right NOW, Memphis would decline a trade involving Duncan and Zack Randolph straight up? I'm just wondering...

umm..yeah

tbh it's Memphis...you could get Randolph for Chris Quinn

[DPG21920]

Also, BR has been so dead wrong about the team he watches the most that he has ZERO credibility son. I don't kick people when they are down, but I could make a list of posters better than BR using stats of predictions gone terribly wrong and it would get ugly. That's just with regards to his team as well. If I move to the entire league :lol.

So when someone can't get their own team right, you can't expect him to get something right about anything else.

[NRHector]

less minutes=less productivity, think about that stat

[BRHornet45]

BR, son, I ask you this: as it stands now, if he could be had, would you take Tim Duncan on the Hornets? Explain why you would or why you wouldn't. Thanks.

5 years ago? hell yea

right now? hell no

son David West is a better option than Tim Duncan right now at this point in their careers. West is 4 years younger and can actually score legit numbers. Oh and he can play more minutes too without getting gassed like Duncan does.

[DeadlyDynasty]

less minutes=less productivity, think about that stat

Old age=declining play, think about that fact

[WeNeedLength]

umm..yeah

tbh it's Memphis...you could get Randolph for Chris Quinn

You missed the point dipshit.

[tdunk21]

OP is a clown......

[DeadlyDynasty]

You missed the point dipshit.

It went over your head, dipshit.

[WeNeedLength]

5 years ago? hell yea

right now? hell no

son David West is a better option than Tim Duncan right now at this point in their careers. West is 4 years younger and can actually score legit numbers. Oh and he can play more minutes too without getting gassed like Duncan does.


ROFLMAO....David West....ROFLMAO :lmao
I'm glad you think this because the Hornets will continue to disappoint because of this deadbeat's lack of defense. Hooray for offense!

[skut_farkus]

crucify em br, crucify em!

[Gold Tooth Carl]

ROFLMAO....David West....ROFLMAO :lmao
I'm glad you think this because the Hornets will continue to disappoint because of this deadbeat's lack of defense. Hooray for offense!

butthurt

[tdunk21]

Old age=declining play, think about that fact

people like u r idiots, they just argue without knowing shit....

[BRHornet45]

less minutes=less productivity, think about that stat

son well then with that mentality we may as well say that Sasha was a huge part of the Lakers success in recent years! after all according to your logic, Sasha did put up some pretty decent numbers WHEN he did play (per 36).

lol son the truth is that Duncan is playing on a damn good team right now that would be successful with OR without him. Manu and Parker took over the leadership role in 2007 and never looked back.

[ChumpDumper]

You speak the truth brotha BR, and because of that you'll be attacked, or accused of being butthurt. I purposely avoided making this list simply because I had faith that there was at least one person out there that saw what I'm seeing. Continue to be awesome, son.:toastlol accused

[WeNeedLength]

It went over your head, dipshit.

Wow, I am disappoint. Lakers fans/trolls bring nothing to the table. I hate having to go upstairs to discuss simple logic with people. Shit. :downspin:

[fevertrees]

lol butthurt Spurs fans

[skut_farkus]

blake griffin>>>> jim dunan

[DeadlyDynasty]

people like u r idiots, they just argue without knowing shit....

So NBA players (more specifically, big men) get better as they get older?


GNSF never disappoints :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol

The already-lame NBA Forum has become the "Lakaluva Obsessed Forum" and the "Tim Duncan is Getting Older - Duh! Forum"

We get it... you guys are butthurt that "Tim Duncan has massively declined" and the Spurs are still winning.


of all people you should know better than to be getting involved with this shit storm...It's not about how you start but about how you finish...Mark my words young lady the Spurs are like the Pride before a Fall...the second half of their season will be like the story of a Tale of Two Half's :lmao

hey and thanks for the forum...:rollin

[fevertrees]

ROFLMAO....David West....ROFLMAO :lmao
I'm glad you think this because the Hornets will continue to disappoint because of this deadbeat's lack of defense. Hooray for offense!

David West's scrub ass has a chance to be on the Allstar team this year while Tim Duncan won't (unless all of the butthurt San Antonio fans start mass voting him in cause that's the only way his sory 13/9 ass is getting in it!). :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

lol David West

[WeNeedLength]

son well then with that mentality we may as well say that Sasha was a huge part of the Lakers success in recent years! after all according to your logic, Sasha did put up some pretty decent numbers WHEN he did play (per 36).

lol son the truth is that Duncan is playing on a damn good team right now that would be successful with OR without him. Manu and Parker took over the leadership role in 2007 and never looked back.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/44/warning_please.jpg

Damn son, getting dumber by the post.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/%22http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/44/warning_please.jpg

[fevertrees]

I just want to know why Duncan's minutes are being limited now...honest question and don't give me that "WE WAIT FOR THE PLAYOFFS TO UNLEASH TIMMY" because it's still freaking December! Classy Spurs fans at least owe me that.

[ChumpDumper]

lol owe

[BRHornet45]

ROFLMAO....David West....ROFLMAO :lmao
I'm glad you think this because the Hornets will continue to disappoint because of this deadbeat's lack of defense. Hooray for offense!

son again this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Hornets. is that your only defense trying to bash the team that I like? we all know they are a borderline playoff team this season if that.

son this thread is about Tim Duncan's current status in the NBA. This isn't about me, this isn't about the Hornets, or anything else. stay focused on the topic please.

[WeNeedLength]

David West's scrub ass has a chance to be on the Allstar team this year while Tim Duncan won't (unless all of the butthurt San Antonio fans start mass voting him in cause that's the only way his sory 13/9 ass is getting in it!). :rollin


LMAO at giving an argument based on all-star game appearances. How fucking dumb can someone be.

[Koolaid_Man]

I just want to know why Duncan's minutes are being limited now...honest question and don't give me that "WE WAIT FOR THE PLAYOFFS TO UNLEASH TIMMY" because it's still freaking December! Classy Spurs fans at least owe me that.


maybe if they rest him we'll see Timmy and Kimmy....

[DeadlyDynasty]

Wow, I am disappoint. Lakers fans/trolls bring nothing to the table. I hate having to go upstairs to discuss simple logic with people. Shit. :downspin:

Good one. :tu

You (as well as other gnsf's) still haven't provided a counter-argument to the OP...just a shit ton of butthurt.

Tim just isn't elite anymore. It's a sad fact, but unfortunately it's one you'll have to live with.

[Koolaid_Man]

for the record I wouldn't argue too much with WeNeedLength...either the whole city of San Antonio have short dicks or he need to change his name to I_Need_Length

[fevertrees]

LMAO at giving an argument based on all-star game appearances. How fucking dumb can someone be.

David West has put the shitty Hornets team on his back and carried them for 7+ seasons. Duncan has MAYBE did that for a few but he had to ride the coattails of Robinson, Parker, and now Ginobli to get championships. :lol

[BRHornet45]

Also, BR has been so dead wrong about the team he watches the most that he has ZERO credibility son. I don't kick people when they are down, but I could make a list of posters better than BR using stats of predictions gone terribly wrong and it would get ugly. That's just with regards to his team as well. If I move to the entire league :lol.

So when someone can't get their own team right, you can't expect him to get something right about anything else.

son how I have been "dead wrong" in posting? if you're referring to me posting that the Hornets will win 55 games this season then lol at you! ... that is a completely different scenario and by your logic then every fan of every team is "Dead Wrong" by hoping the best for their team. Obviously I'm not a physic, but I do wish the best for the team I like.

This however is a thread that involves stats. How am I being "dead wrong" by posting factual information? are you mad well over 40 other NBA players have FAR BETTER stats than Duncan? go ahead and admit it ... you are

[weebo]

5 years ago? hell yea

right now? hell no

son David West is a better option than Tim Duncan right now at this point in their careers. West is 4 years younger and can actually score legit numbers. Oh and he can play more minutes too without getting gassed like Duncan does.

You can't be serious about David West. That d-bag has never met a shot he didn't like. Would you take Duncan on your team, maybe over Okafur?

[ChumpDumper]

David West has put the shitty Hornets team on his back and carried them for 7+ seasons. Duncan has MAYBE did that for a few but he had to ride the coattails of Robinson, Parker, and now Ginobli to get championships. :lollol has maybe did

[DeadlyDynasty]

for the record I wouldn't argue too much with WeNeedLength...either the whole city of San Antonio have short dicks or he need to change his name to I_Need_Length

tbh I'm anxiously awaiting him to post anything of substance

[WeNeedLength]

Good one. :tu

You (as well as other gnsf's) still haven't provided a counter-argument to the OP...just a shit ton of butthurt.

Tim just isn't elite anymore. It's a sad fact, but unfortunately it's one you'll have to live with.


I'm going to leave this thread and let all of you circle jerk to this list. Keep believing that:

Al Horford > TD
Carlos Boozer > TD
David Lee > TD
Luis Scola > TD
Lamar Odom > TD Holy FAWK I missed this one :lmao
Zach Randolph > TD
David West > TD
Raymond Felton > TD

You know the others.
Timmy D is still the anchor defensively and can score when given the touches. With the best start in franchise history, all you fucks can eat that Spurs tail as it slowly inches away from you in the standings.

[BRHornet45]

You speak the truth brotha BR, and because of that you'll be attacked, or accused of being butthurt. I purposely avoided making this list simply because I had faith that there was at least one person out there that saw what I'm seeing. Continue to be awesome, son.:toast

son thanks for being positive, but again I must say that this post is about facts and facts only. There is noway in hell that I or anyone else can "spin" the numbers in favor of Duncan or against him. The bottom line is that these numbers needed to be exposed. that is all

[DeadlyDynasty]

Spurfan suffering massive anal hemorrhage from butthurt in this thread. Looks like Kori's back to cauterize your assholes and shepherd you back upstairs where it's safe. :tu

[WeNeedLength]

tbh I'm anxiously awaiting him to post anything of substance

Likewise dicksuck. Oh wait, you're defending champs so I should suck your dick and not post anything that says otherwise. :downspin:

[ChumpDumper]

son thanks for being positive, but again I must say that this post is about facts and facts only. There is noway in hell that I or anyone else can "spin" the numbers in favor of Duncan or against him. The bottom line is that these numbers needed to be exposed. that is alllol needed

[NRHector]

You mean GREAT?!!! He's awesome but not great like me, not yet.:lol in your own world

[cherylsteele]

Timmy is not as dominate as he once was for sure, he is still a solid player on the team with the best record. All great players decline with age, that's life. He is still amoung the league leaders in rebound and blocks though. The only stat that matters in the end is 23-3 (at the moment) and Timmy is a big part of it, along with TP, Manu, Hill, etc.

[fevertrees]

hate to say it cause I used to love Duncan but he is nothing more than a poor man's Bynum now.... :downspin:

[ChumpDumper]

Mot the way Duncan has. The last guy I saw fall off this dramatically was Kemp and Antoine Walker.lol mot

[ChumpDumper]

hate to say it cause I used to love Duncan but he is nothing more than a poor man's Bynum now.... :downspin:lol used to love

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm going to leave this thread and let all of you circle jerk to this list. Keep believing that:

Al Horford > TD
Carlos Boozer > TD
David Lee > TD
Luis Scola > TD
Lamar Odom > TD Holy FAWK I missed this one :lmao
Zach Randolph > TD
David West > TD
Raymond Felton > TD

You know the others.
Timmy D is still the anchor defensively and can score when given the touches. With the best start in franchise history, all you fucks can eat that Spurs tail as it slowly inches away from you in the standings.

Here's where your homerism blinds you from the truth: You keep thinking Tim Duncan is the same player who won 4 rings. If BR was to put all those stats down w/o names next to them, then you would understand. This isn't 2003 Tim Duncan. It's 2010, and he's nowhere near the defensive anchor he used to be. Players dribble around his gimpy ass now.

[Koolaid_Man]

Not the way Duncan has. The last guy I saw fall off this dramatically was Kemp and Antoine Walker.


that's cuz Duncan he's prolly older than his birth certificate says...you know how them lying ass Islanders do it...:lol

[weebo]

What part of "Duncan is dead" don't you understand, jackass?

I guess its the part where he just dropped 28/16 this past Wed. against Denver. Besides, I wasn't taking to you so only respond when you're spoken to. Thanks.

[Koolaid_Man]

I guess its the part where he just dropped 28/16 this past Wed. against Denver. Besides, I wasn't taking to you so only respond when you're spoken to. Thanks.


against Nene.....a guy who literally has one nut left...ok

[BRHornet45]

You can't be serious about David West. That d-bag has never met a shot he didn't like. Would you take Duncan on your team, maybe over Okafur?

son do I need to explain this topic to you again? ... this is about CURRENT NBA status right now. I'm not trying to say that West is some hall of fame player like Duncan is, but over the last 4 seasons West HAS BEEN A BETTER PLAYER than Duncan. not "by far" by definitely better indeed. the stats don't lie.

Last 4 Years

David West - 20 / 8

Tim Duncan 17 / 10


son not to mention the fact that West always plays well against Duncan head to head. I always look forward to playing the Spurs because I know West will have a good game. so far head to head this season in 3 games West is putting up 18ppg and Duncan 13ppg

[weebo]

You lil nigga, didn't you see what Kori just said. This is the Lakaluva Obsessed Forum, I speak to who the fuck I want.

oh ok.

[ChumpDumper]

lol David West

[Koolaid_Man]

against Nene.....a guy who literally has one nut left...ok

forgot to add link

http://globalgrind.com/channel/culture/content/2688/nene-battles-his-balls/

[LkrFan]

that's cuz Duncan he's prolly older than his birth certificate says...you know how them lying ass Islanders do it...:lol
:lol

[weebo]

son do I need to explain this topic to you again? ... this is about CURRENT NBA status right now. I'm not trying to say that West is some hall of fame player like Duncan is, but over the last 4 seasons West HAS BEEN A BETTER PLAYER than Duncan. not "by far" by definitely better indeed. the stats don't lie.

Last 4 Years

David West - 20 / 8

Tim Duncan 17 / 10


son not to mention the fact that West always plays well against Duncan head to head. I always look forwards to playing the Spurs because I know West will have a good game. so far head to head this season in 3 games West is putting up 18ppg and Duncan 13ppg

Bonner.

[ChumpDumper]

against Nene.....a guy who literally has one nut left...oklol tumor removed

[BRHornet45]

Timmy is not as dominate as he once was for sure, he is still a solid player on the team with the best record. All great players decline with age, that's life. He is still amoung the league leaders in rebound and blocks though. The only stat that matters in the end is 23-3 (at the moment) and Timmy is a big part of it, along with TP, Manu, Hill, etc.

son there is absolutely no question that Duncan is still a solid player. I have never once doubted that. He plays a solid role in the Spurs success as a role player with limited minutes. There is a reason why Pop pulls him during clutch time.

Duncan was an elite top 5 and top 10 player during his first 10 seasons, but over the last 4 years however he has fallen from that status drastically. Right now just judging by STATS AND FACTS alone, he is the 44th best player in the NBA give or take a few.

[Ghazi]

Duncan's still the 2nd best C in the league..

[ChumpDumper]

son there is absolutely no question that Duncan is still a solid player. I have never once doubted that. He plays a solid role in the Spurs success as a role player with limited minutes. There is a reason why Pop pulls him during clutch time.

Duncan was an elite top 5 and top 10 player during his first 10 seasons, but over the last 4 years however he has fallen from that status drastically. Right now just judging by STATS AND FACTS alone, he is the 44th best player in the NBA give or take a few.lol pulls

[DPG21920]

Post Tims stats from the past 4 years please. K, thanks.

[WeNeedLength]

Here's where your homerism blinds you from the truth: You keep thinking Tim Duncan is the same player who won 4 rings. If BR was to put all those stats down w/o names next to them, then you would understand. This isn't 2003 Tim Duncan. It's 2010, and he's nowhere near the defensive anchor he used to be. Players dribble around his gimpy ass now.


If stats were the end all, be all:

Dallas would have a championship
Allen Iverson would have a ring.
Lebron James >>>>>>> Kobe Bryant.
...and many more.
Stats are on paper. Winning anything on paper is meaningless.

[weebo]

son there is absolutely no question that Duncan is still a solid player. I have never once doubted that. He plays a solid role in the Spurs success as a role player with limited minutes. There is a reason why Pop pulls him during clutch time.

Duncan was an elite top 5 and top 10 player during his first 10 seasons. Over the last 4 years however he has fallen from the status drastically. Right now just judging by STATS AND FACTS alone, he is the 44th best player in the NBA give or take a few.

So based on your argument, and correct me if I'm wrong, that STATS AND FACTS are the truest measure of a players worth?

[BRHornet45]

Here's where your homerism blinds you from the truth: You keep thinking Tim Duncan is the same player who won 4 rings. If BR was to put all those stats down w/o names next to them, then you would understand. This isn't 2003 Tim Duncan. It's 2010, and he's nowhere near the defensive anchor he used to be. Players dribble around his gimpy ass now.

son that is exactly right!

maybe its my fault for listing NAMES next to those stats? because it wouldn't matter if Duncan was only putting up 3 ppg and 2 rebounds, some would still argue that he is still in the top 10 lol ... people need to wake up and understand that this is not the Tim Duncan from 1997-2007 ... Some fans are clearly having trouble accepting the truth.

[ChumpDumper]

lol truth

[ChumpDumper]

lol dramatic

[BRHornet45]

I guess its the part where he just dropped 28/16 this past Wed. against Denver. Besides, I wasn't taking to you so only respond when you're spoken to. Thanks.

son no one is trying to say that Duncan can't have a great game once in a blue moon still ... again however .... he is putting up 13 and 9 this season. those are the facts.

[mavs>spurs]

spurs play better teamball than ever before

[ChumpDumper]

lol blue moon

[WeNeedLength]

So you must take Hollinger's shit as gospel, correct?

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

Spurs right now are just over a 2 to 1 favorite to win the championship over the Lakers right now, you must agree since this is all stat-based right?

[weebo]

son no one is trying to say that Duncan can't have a great game once in a blue moon still ... again however .... he is putting up 13 and 9 this season. those are the facts.

Son, you still didn't answer the question. Do you believe that stats alone are the truest measure of a players worth?

[DeadlyDynasty]

spurs play better teamball than ever before

spurs=class

[rayjayjohnson]

bosh > duncan

thread speaks truth tbh. and that's not forgetting bosh is shit.

[BRHornet45]

Post Tims stats from the past 4 years please. K, thanks.

son I already posted them above and he has put up 17 and 10 over the last 4 years ... solid numbers right along with Zach Randolph's stats over the last 4 years of 19 and 11

[DPG21920]

Blocks & assists?

[DPG21920]

Defensive metrics?

[rayjayjohnson]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/Ice_Pixxy/Gifs/tumblr_lciuqt4Man1qdm9wo.gif

[WeNeedLength]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fhollinger%2fstatistics

I wuv stats.

[rayjayjohnson]

lol 17th

[BRHornet45]

Son, you still didn't answer the question. Do you believe that stats alone are the truest measure of a players worth?

not at all son ... but you would be foolish to ignore them just to push your favorite player to the top like many Spurs fans do with Duncan.

I clearly stated in the first post of this thread that I LEFT OUT quite a few players who currently have BETTER stats than Duncan does, but in my opinion they are having "fluke" years. I only listed the players who are clearly better than Duncan is right now. also again give or take a few, Duncan is around the 44th best player in the NBA right now.

[ChumpDumper]

lol quite a few

[WeNeedLength]

lol 17th

It still discredits this shit pile of a thread.

TD is better than:

Spurs
Tony Parker 18/7 - Duncan 13/9

Atlanta
Joe Johnson 17/5 - Duncan 13/9

Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9

Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9

Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9

Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Lakers
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9

Miam
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9


New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9



Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9


Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge 18/8 - Duncan 13/9


Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

Utah
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9

Hollinger, the king of stats, completely destroys this list. /thread.

[Mav-elous Man]

BR is right. Nothing wrong with his logic. Spurs fans are blinded by Duncan's nuts in their faces to see the truth. You would think they are saving him for later in the season but will he still be able to take over against younger and more active big men in the league that late in the season? And how long will Parker and Ginobli hold up? Can they keep up this uptempo pace all season they they have traditionally not played? All valid questions. It just remains to be seen. Duncan will go off from time to time but they really don't need him to right now. Can't argue with the record.

[BRHornet45]

It still discredits this shit pile of a thread.

TD is better than:

Spurs
Tony Parker 18/7 - Duncan 13/9

Atlanta
Joe Johnson 17/5 - Duncan 13/9

Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9

Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9

Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9

Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Lakers
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9

Miam
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9


New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9



Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9


Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge 18/8 - Duncan 13/9


Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

Utah
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9

Hollinger, the king of stats, completely destroys this list. /thread.

son again LIKE I SAID FROM THE START .... give or take a FEW, and when I say few I mean 2-4 players ... however I would love to hear your argument as to how Mr. 13 points per game Duncan is still better than anyone you decided to list above?

[ChumpDumper]

lol mavfan wishful thinking

[DPG21920]

You are lucky spur fans (mostly myself) are so classy and cool. If this were one of your butthurt fan boards everyone would be banned.

Spurs fans (me) are some cool customers.

[BRHornet45]

You are lucky spur fans (mostly myself) are so classy and cool. If this were one of your butthurt fan boards everyone would be banned.

Spurs fans (me) are some cool customers.

banned for what though son??? ... posting STATS??? jesus christ why are some of you so mad about this? If it helps, I took the stats from ESPN.com and Basketball-Reference.com!

[ChumpDumper]

lol mad

[WeNeedLength]

son again LIKE I SAID FROM THE START .... give or take a FEW, and when I say few I mean 2-4 players ... however I would love to hear your argument as to how Mr. 13 points per game Duncan is still better than anyone you decided to list above?


Reread what I said dipshit. This is Hollinger's list, Mr. Stats himself of who is better than who. Has nothing to do with me.

[crc21209]

sons this is simply a list that is based on current stats and facts. I'm sure the Duncan Nut-Huggers will try to spin it around listing Duncan inside the top 5 or top 10 by making idiotic comments like "it doesn't matter that he's only scoring 13 points a game, what he does in the locker room is priceless and puts him in the top 10!" or "what he did 10 years ago is enough to rank him inside the top 10!".... sons the fact of the matter is that Duncan started falling off around 2006-07 and has been on a steady downhill pace and looks so pathetic and weak this season riding the coattails of Manu's success with the Spurs.

The following players listed are currently better and contribute more to their teams than Duncan starting with his own teammates. It also should be noted that some players were not listed due to them having fluke years even though they still currently have better stats than Duncan. Each players standout stats are listed and the stats don't lie ...

Players Better than Tim Duncan

Spurs
Manu Ginobili 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
Tony Parker 18/7 - Duncan 13/9

Atlanta
Joe Johnson 17/5 - Duncan 13/9
Al Horford 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9

Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9
Carlos Boozer 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Dallas
Dirk Nowitzki 24/7 - Duncan 13/9

Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9

Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9

Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant 26/5 - Duncan 13/9
Pau Gasol 20/11 - Duncan 13/9
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9

Miami
Lebron James 24/7 - Duncan 13/9
Dwyane Wade 23/6 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9

Minnesota
Kevin Love 21/15 - Duncan 13/9
Michael Beasley 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Paul 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

New York
Amare Stoudemire 26/9 - Duncan 13/9
Raymond Felton 18/9 - Duncan 13/9

Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9
Russell Westbrook 23/8 - Duncan 13/9

Orlando
Dwight Howard 21/12 - Duncan 13/9

Phoenix
Steve Nash 17/10 - Duncan 13/9

Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge 18/8 - Duncan 13/9
(Brandon Roy would also get the nod if not for injuries)

Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

Utah
Deron Williams 22/9 - Duncan 13/9
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9

--------------------------------------------------------------------

so sons there it is. now give or take a couple of spots, but with those stats and facts exposed for this season ... Duncan is around the 44th best player in the NBA. amazing how far this guy has fallen off from once being the best power forward in the game.

Cool story stat boy/Hollinger...:tu

[BRHornet45]

lol mad

lol son no wonder you have 5.3 Million post

[ChumpDumper]

lol son no wonder you have 5.3 Million postlol post count

[DPG21920]

So you are saying the spurs board isn't cool while your fan board is full of butthurt? Is this not fact

[BRHornet45]

So you are saying the spurs board isn't cool while your fan board is full of butthurt? Is this not fact

son this is the best sports message board out there. you and I both know that. however I had no idea that simply by posting the facts and stats that it would cause so much butthurt by some of you!

[Stump]

If we're talking strictly regular season, then BRHornet is mostly right. Duncan can't play at a high level for 82 games anymore. You'd be better off with about 80% of the guys he listed.

Of course, the true measuring stick for greatness lies in the playoffs. Luckily for the Spurs, they don't need Duncan to carry them on their backs to the playoffs like the old days. In May or June, when Duncan is really trying, I'd take maybe 25% of those guys ahead of him.

[midnightpulp]

lol BR trolling. Pretty good job, I must say. God bless, son.

[DPG21920]

Sons, do you not get d slapped by butthurt when you post attendance stats for your own team on their board?

Proves my point.

Spurs fans = cool

Other fans = butthurt

You are all welcome here though.

[BRHornet45]

If we're talking strictly regular season, then BRHornet is mostly right. Duncan can't play at a high level for 82 games anymore. You'd be better off with about 80% of the guys he listed.

Of course, the true measuring stick for greatness lies in the playoffs. Luckily for the Spurs, they don't need Duncan to carry them on their backs to the playoffs like the old days. In May or June, when Duncan is really trying, I'd take maybe 25% of those guys ahead of him.

son props to you for being the FIRST Spurs fan to add a legit argument to this discussion. Only time will tell if Duncan can lead his team in the playoffs this season like he did in 99, 03, and 05 though. God knows he hasn't been able to do that in 4 seasons though.

[weebo]

not at all son ... but you would be foolish to ignore them just to push your favorite player to the top like many Spurs fans do with Duncan.

I clearly stated in the first post of this thread that I LEFT OUT quite a few players who currently have BETTER stats than Duncan does, but in my opinion they are having "fluke" years. I only listed the players who are clearly better than Duncan is right now. also again give or take a few, Duncan is around the 44th best player in the NBA right now.

Son I am not discounting that stats do play a role in identifying a player's worth to a team. I'll give you several players on your list that are worth they're weight in points and rebounds. However, many from the list you complied are players on teams with mediocre to less than stellar records.

Now, if these players were better than Duncan, as you say, wouldn't that reflect better team records? If they were that much better, wouldn't the GSW have a better record than the Spurs?

Duncan has declined somewhat, most players do as they age, but to the degree that you and some claim comes off as trolling more than anything.

Bottom line is the Spurs have been winning as Duncan has taken a backseat to some of the guys on the team. That doesn't make him any less valuable or less important. His role has been reduced, and that's a luxury the Spurs can afford. He no longer has to be the go to guy and put up 20/10 each night for the Spurs to be successful.

He could be saving himself for when it really counts.

[WeNeedLength]

Ah yes, ignore my posts. Hollinger stats > Your stats.

[BRHornet45]

Son I am not discounting that stats do play a role in identifying a player's worth to a team. I'll give you several players on your list that are worth they're weight in points and rebounds. However, many from the list you complied are players on teams with mediocre to less than stellar records.

Now, if these players were better than Duncan, as you say, wouldn't that reflect better team records? If they were that much better, wouldn't the GSW have a better record than the Spurs?

Duncan has declined somewhat, most players do as they age, but to the degree that you and some claim comes off as trolling more than anything.

Bottom line is the Spurs have been winning as Duncan has taken a backseat to some of the guys on the team. That doesn't make him any less valuable or less important. His role has been reduced, and that's a luxury the Spurs can afford. He no longer has to be the go to guy and put up 20/10 each night for the Spurs to be successful.

He could be saving himself for when it really counts.


not at all son. the team record is based on more than just one or two outstanding players. Duncan is fortunate to be on a DAMN GOOD basketball team right now. you could replace Duncan with about 90% of ANY power fowards in the NBA right now and the Spurs would still be a damn good team. it takes more than just one or two star players to have success.

[WeNeedLength]

not at all son. the team record is based on more than just one or two outstanding players. Duncan is fortunate to be on a DAMN GOOD basketball team right now. you could replace Duncan with about 90% of ANY power fowards in the NBA right now and the Spurs would still be a damn good team. it takes more than just one or two star players to have success.


See the 2002-2003 Spurs. Duncan carried that sorry ass team to a trophy. Please tell me how they had DRob and Parker and Ginobili so that must be wrong. :lmao

[BRHornet45]

See the 2002-2003 Spurs. Duncan carried that sorry ass team to a trophy. Please tell me how they had DRob and Parker and Ginobili so that must be wrong. :lmao

again though son you are missing the entire point of the thread ... I never once doubted what Duncan has done in the past, but for fucks sake you're talking about something that happened 8 years ago lol ....

this thread is about Duncan RIGHT NOW and RIGHT NOW he's not even a top 40 player.

[WeNeedLength]

again though son you are missing the entire point of the thread ... I never once doubted what Duncan has done in the past, but for fucks sake you're talking about something that happened 8 years ago lol ....

this thread is about Duncan RIGHT NOW and RIGHT NOW he's not even a top 40 player.


I was just showing how wrong you were. It's not my fault when you say something so fucking dumb that I have to point it out. Anyways, keep it up. :toast

[weebo]

not at all son. the team record is based on more than just one or two outstanding players. Duncan is fortunate to be on a DAMN GOOD basketball team right now. you could replace Duncan with about 90% of ANY power fowards in the NBA right now and the Spurs would still be a damn good team. it takes more than just one or two star players to have success.

Exactly right. Therefore, he no longer has to put up the STATS he did when he was in his prime. I'm not some blind homer Spur fan that doesn't see the writing on the wall. Duncan can still give you a great game every now and again, but those days are far and few in between these days. That, however, doesn't mean all the players you mentioned are better than TD. He just no longer is needed the way he used to be. He has more help now.

[ChumpDumper]

not at all son. the team record is based on more than just one or two outstanding players. Duncan is fortunate to be on a DAMN GOOD basketball team right now. you could replace Duncan with about 90% of ANY power fowards in the NBA right now and the Spurs would still be a damn good team. it takes more than just one or two star players to have success.lol 90%

[BRHornet45]

Exactly right. Therefore, he no longer has to put up the STATS he did when he was in his prime. I'm not some blind homer Spur fan that doesn't see the writing on the wall. Duncan can still give you a great game every now and again, but those days are far and few in between these days. That, however, doesn't mean all the players you mentioned are better than TD. He just no longer is needed the way he used to be. He has more help now.

then son since you're "not some blind homer Spur fan" ... can you admit that Duncan has fallen off from elite status and isn't even a top 40 player anymore? the facts and stats don't lie.

keep in mind that James Posey was a huge part of the Miami Heat and Boston Celtics recent championships. Should that give him a huge boost into the top players too???

[Ghazi]

Duncan > CP3

[mavs>spurs]

son that is exactly right!

maybe its my fault for listing NAMES next to those stats? because it wouldn't matter if Duncan was only putting up 3 ppg and 2 rebounds, some would still argue that he is still in the top 10 lol ... people need to wake up and understand that this is not the Tim Duncan from 1997-2007 ... Some fans are clearly having trouble accepting the truth.

the growth of age has equal effect on everyone. its undeniable that duncan of current version is not nearly as great a player he used to be, but i can accept it as long as the team functions well. there may be 20 individuals better than Tim but it doesn't mean they can do us a better job than tim does. basketball is a team game and the result of a game never equals the simple accumulation of personal stats.

[WeNeedLength]

Aw fuck it, BR is trolling. I feel just like this kid right now...

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/scaredlittlekid.gif

Well played sir, continue your troll-age.

[weebo]

then son since you're "not some blind homer Spur fan" ... can you admit that Duncan has fallen off from elite status and isn't even a top 40 player anymore? the facts and stats don't lie.

keep in mind that James Posey was a huge part of the Miami Heat and Boston Celtics recent championships. Should that give him a huge boost into the top players too???

Son, no team has ever geared their defensive game plan to stop James Posey. Let's not compare apples and oranges here. As I stated in my last post, I admit that Duncan has slipped, as most players do as they age. I no longer consider TD as an elite player, for several reasons, including because he no longer has to be. But to say that he is no longer a top 40 player on a team with the best record in the league and as an integral member of said team is stretching it a bit.

In all honesty, it makes your post seem rather bias. But if that's your opinion then I can respect that. :toast

[TE]

Badass trolling BR



tbh, if your trying to be realistic you are completely being a butthurt faggot.


We all know Duncan has fallen fucking retard. Same shit could be said about Kobe, Shaq, Yao, and any other player on the opposite side of thirty.

Duncan has fallen, but to a point. He has only been needed to play a limited role this year. If he was needed to play a more influential role, he could (See the first 25-30 games of the 08-09, 09-10 NBA year). The fact that Ginobili and Parker were either hurt or gassed from international competition, and the Spurs had a shit crap of a line up for one season (2008-09) and a much-improved but new team (2009-10) called upon for Duncan to play his ass off. But seriously, idiot, big men always decline in ability. Fucking basketball science predicts the same thing will happen to every big man, and its only a limited time. The same thing has happened to KG, Shaq, and any other big man in the past that balled it up in his hey day (see Chris Webber). What you idiots (non spur fans who absolutely hate how Duncan has dominated the NBA for the past decade or so) eat on is simple fucking analysis and frank common sense: Duncan, like all big man, has declined and will continue to do so. But he's still better than 90% (when he wants or needs to be) of the sorry ass list of scrub and above average players you posted on your list.




And get it the fuck right, I am not buthurt, but stating facts to an otherwise credible poster who seems to become more uncredible by the minute.

[mavs>spurs]

not at all son. the team record is based on more than just one or two outstanding players. Duncan is fortunate to be on a DAMN GOOD basketball team right now. you could replace Duncan with about 90% of ANY power fowards in the NBA right now and the Spurs would still be a damn good team. it takes more than just one or two star players to have success.

our team is outstanding and still plays awesome teamwork as they always do, which has been the groundwork for our successes all these years. if the team wins a game, it's owed to the efforts of the whole group not just one or two outstanding players.

[Nathan89]

For as long as Duncan has been in the Nba the opposing coach has never considered putting a small-forward on him to shut him down. Even this year at the ripe age of 34 an opposing coach wouldn't consider that. Gregg Popovich not only considered putting as small-foward(Richard Jefferson) on David West but actually did. Turns out a fucking small-forward can shut David West down.

Nice list:rolleyes

[TE]

For as long as Duncan has been in the Nba the opposing coach has never considered putting a small-forward on him to shut him down. Even this year at the ripe age of 34 an opposing coach wouldn't consider that. Gregg Popovich not only considered putting as small-foward(Richard Jefferson) on David West but actually did. Turns out a fucking small-forward can shut David West down.

Nice list:rolleyes

fucking cosigned.


Hey fellow spurstalk, lets talk about how bad and overrated David West is.


The fact that a player much smaller than him (Richard Jefferson), shut and overplayed a player supposedly better than Duncan calls for BR to shut the fuck up and consider never drugging up on whatever it is that's causing him to post these completely wrong statements.

[BRHornet45]

our team is outstanding and still plays awesome teamwork as they always do, which has been the groundwork for our successes all these years. if the team wins a game, it's owed to the efforts of the whole group not just one or two outstanding players.

and son again I never once took ANYTHING away from the Spurs success. I complimented both Manu and Parker for taking over the leadership reigns from Duncan in 2007.

[BRHornet45]

For as long as Duncan has been in the Nba the opposing coach has never considered putting a small-forward on him to shut him down. Even this year at the ripe age of 34 an opposing coach wouldn't consider that. Gregg Popovich not only considered putting as small-foward(Richard Jefferson) on David West but actually did. Turns out a fucking small-forward can shut David West down.

Nice list:rolleyes

lol yet David West still has put up over 5 points more PER GAME than Duncan has in head to head matchups with the Hornets this season. epic fail.

[rayjayjohnson]

TD is better than:go on, let's see...


Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9lol, lol and fucking lol



Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9seriously, are you fucking high?


Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9yeah, probably. he is mailing it in.



Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9pffffffft, david lee would beast all over duncan's frail old ass.


Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9
better than scola lol.


Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9
maybe when he was in high school


Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9
better than griffin? aaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Los Angeles Lakers
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9good for timmy, he's better than a retard


Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9wrong, wrong.


Miam
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/913/9 is better than 18/8? fuck you americans have shithouse education



Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9
dumbest call ever tbh


New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9this one is probably right.



Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9this one really isnt


Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9big deal, I'M better than andrea bargnani



Utah
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9see statement above re. chris bosh

[rayjayjohnson]

these stats are from hollinger, right? the same hollinger you all pilloried for puting the heat on top of his power rankings?

y'all need to let go of his sack.

[mavs>spurs]

Son, no team has ever geared their defensive game plan to stop James Posey. Let's not compare apples and oranges here. As I stated in my last post, I admit that Duncan has slipped, as most players do as they age. I no longer consider TD as an elite player, for several reasons, including because he no longer has to be. But to say that he is no longer a top 40 player on a team with the best record in the league and as an integral member of said team is stretching it a bit.

In all honesty, it makes your post seem rather bias. But if that's your opinion then I can respect that. :toast

tim can still grab 20+10 stats if he wants to. well in his 30s tim is aware of the change in his body and knows his own limits, so he chose to shed some weight off the shoulder on purpose.

[TE]

go on, let's see...



lol, lol and fucking lol



seriously, are you fucking high?



yeah, probably. he is mailing it in.



pffffffft, david lee would beast all over duncan's frail old ass.



better than scola lol.



maybe when he was in high school



better than griffin? aaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.



good for timmy, he's better than a retard



wrong, wrong.



13/9 is better than 18/8? fuck you americans have shithouse education



dumbest call ever tbh



this one is probably right.



this one really isnt



big deal, I'M better than andrea bargnani



see statement above.



lol buthurt Nuggets fan who is always witness to an early playoff exit predominately in the form to an opposing team named the Spurs lead by Duncan.

[TE]

lol yet David West still has put up over 5 points more PER GAME than Duncan has in head to head matchups with the Hornets this season. epic fail.

Idiotic again, it has been implied and written all over the face of reality.

See:

Duncan hasn't been needed like years past

Although Duncan has declined, he's still better than your "I got shut down by a small forward" 'all-star' David West.

[BRHornet45]

tim can still grab 20+10 stats if he wants to. well in his 30s tim is aware of the change in his body and knows his own limits, so he chose to shed some weight off the shoulder on purpose.

son then why has Tim only grabbed 20 and 10 in ONE of the last 5 seasons? regardless though none of that matters. the fact is he is currently a 9 rebound per game player who is struggling to score double digits. It takes everything in him to put up those 13 points.

[rayjayjohnson]

Duncan hasn't been needed like years past



Spurfan: Yeah, but his production is great for his limited minutes!!!

lakaluva speaks the truth tbh

[rayjayjohnson]

tim can still grab 20+10 stats if he wants to. well in his 30s tim is aware of the change in his body and knows his own limits, so he chose to shed some weight off the shoulder on purpose.

lol @ spursfan who sounds like he wants to take TD on a date.

i'm amazed you can type with his dick on your prostate

[TE]

lakaluva speaks the truth tbh

Let me say mate, anytime and everytime you commend any trolling effort by Lakaluva, you become more uncredible for the reality that is life.


Please don't ever say or imply that Lakaluva speaks the truth.

[mavs>spurs]

and son again I never once took ANYTHING away from the Spurs success. I complimented both Manu and Parker for taking over the leadership reigns from Duncan in 2007.

duncan is still the spiritual leader of the team and this role can't be surrogated by manu or parker, or anyone else. maybe hes not doing as much as he used to, or not capable of it any more, but it will be a long time before he gets completely replaced and the replacement would be another HOF caliber.

[Nathan89]

lol yet David West still has put up over 5 points more PER GAME than Duncan has in head to head matchups with the Hornets this season. epic fail.

Did Rj shut down david west? Yes.
Has that ever happened to Tim Duncan? No.

You couldn't get this part of your analysis correct. This is a player of your favorite team compared to the focus of the analysis. Since you couldn't get this part of right then the rest has zero credibility.

The list sucks. Small-forwards can shut down D.West and the can't shut down T.Duncan. Case closed.

/thread

[ChumpDumper]

son then why has Tim only grabbed 20 and 10 in ONE of the last 5 seasons? regardless though none of that matters. the fact is he is currently a 9 rebound per game player who is struggling to score double digits. It takes everything in him to put up those 13 points.lol struggling.

[fevertrees]

duncan is still the spiritual leader of the team and this role can't be surrogated by manu or parker, or anyone else. r.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

The Spurs are now a religious experience to be a part of!

[WeNeedLength]

go on, let's see...

lol, lol and fucking lol

seriously, are you fucking high?

yeah, probably. he is mailing it in.

pffffffft, david lee would beast all over duncan's frail old ass.

better than scola lol.

maybe when he was in high school

better than griffin? aaaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

good for timmy, he's better than a retard

wrong, wrong.

13/9 is better than 18/8? fuck you americans have shithouse education

dumbest call ever tbh

this one is probably right.

this one really isnt

big deal, I'M better than andrea bargnani

see statement above re. chris bosh

You're supporting BR's list right? Well I posted Hollinger's PER ratings which are based SOLELY ON STATS which is exactly what BR did in the first post. What the fuck can you not comprehend???

[rayjayjohnson]

duncan is still the spiritual leader of the team and this role can't be surrogated by manu or parker, or anyone else. maybe hes not doing as much as he used to, or not capable of it any more, but it will be a long time before he gets completely replaced and the replacement would be another HOF caliber.

olololololololol, you really want his ass, don't you boy.

[mavs>spurs]

son then why has Tim only grabbed 20 and 10 in ONE of the last 5 seasons? regardless though none of that matters. the fact is he is currently a 9 rebound per game player who is struggling to score double digits. It takes everything in him to put up those 13 points.

just see shaq's stat graph the past seasons. shaq also went through a couple seasons with average point being 13 or so before his 18pt + 8 reb season, and the 38yr old is still doing a decent work for the celtics.

[Nathan89]

LOL just checked and BRhornet was taught to round 13.9 to 13.

Math lesson .5 and up you round up.

[BRHornet45]

duncan is still the spiritual leader of the team and this role can't be surrogated by manu or parker, or anyone else. maybe hes not doing as much as he used to, or not capable of it any more, but it will be a long time before he gets completely replaced and the replacement would be another HOF caliber.

lmao Spiritual Leader??? ... wow

son its one thing to be a big fan of a certain player, but my God why don't you go ahead and get a Tim Duncan custom made dildo?

lmao "Spiritual Leader" ... he is the Benny Hinn of the Spurs!!!

[WeNeedLength]

lmao Spiritual Leader??? ... wow

son its one thing to be a big fan of a certain player, but my God why don't you go ahead and get a Tim Duncan custom made dildo?

lmao "Spiritual Leader" ... he is the Benny Hinn of the Spurs!!!


Hollinger owns you, can't argue against that shit.

[cherylsteele]

Not the way Duncan has. The last guy I saw fall off this dramatically was Kemp and Antoine Walker.
LOL...comparing Tim to Kemp or Walker in any way shape or form. Those 2 were never on his level to begin with.

[BRHornet45]

lol Spurs fans are MAD TONIGHT!!!

[WeNeedLength]

lol Spurs fans are MAD TONIGHT!!!


Hollinger owns you, can't argue against that shit.


:rollin

[Nathan89]

UNBIASED and up to date list of players BETTER than Tim DuncanHow come Duncan's 13.9 ppg got rounded to 13 and David West 18.8 got rounded to 19?

[ChumpDumper]

lol unbiased rounding

[BRHornet45]

How come Duncan's 13.9 ppg got rounded to 13 and David West 18.8 got rounded to 19?

son because I only post the ACTUAL stats. no rounding up is allowed, this isn't grade school. David West dropped 32 points tonight which will easily boost his 18.8 ppg average over 19 ... Duncan on the other hand is still at 13ppg.

[mavs>spurs]

lol Spurs fans are MAD TONIGHT!!!

nothing severe like laker fans & mavs fans being mad the whole decade.

[rayjayjohnson]

just see shaq's stat graph the past seasons. shaq also went through a couple seasons with average point being 13 or so before his 18pt + 8 reb season, and the 38yr old is still doing a decent work for the celtics.

yeah, but celtic fans don't have his nuts on their tonsils.

y'all bitches are whining about how he's a top 10 player. even the most ardent nuthugging shaq fan isn't saying he's even a top 10 CENTER.

[ChumpDumper]

son because I only post the ACTUAL stats. no rounding up is allowed, this isn't grade school. David West dropped 32 points tonight which will easily boost his 18.8 ppg average over 19 ... Duncan on the other hand is still at 13ppg.lol actual stats

[BRHornet45]

nothing severe like laker fans & mavs fans being mad the whole decade.

son I can understand Mav fans being mad, but why would Laker fans be mad? they have done nothing but OWN the Spurs and have won 5 championships. what do they have to be mad about?

[BRHornet45]

lol actual stats

lol actual

[ChumpDumper]

lol actuallol they weren't

[WeNeedLength]

son I can understand Mav fans being mad, but why would Laker fans be mad? they have done nothing but OWN the Spurs and have won 5 championships. what do they have to be mad about?


You've just been hooked. Troll caught one!

[BRHornet45]

lol they weren't

Tim Duncan has 13.9 ppg right now ... are you really that damn butthurt about it? its not my fault the dude can't score anymore lol


David West on the other hand WAS averaging 18.8 ppg until tonight whenever he dropped 32 points which boosted his average to well over 19. LOL chump. LOL epic fail. LOL being mad that your hero isn't even a top 40 player anymore

but but but!!!! its his SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP that leads the Spurs!!!! LOL

[Nathan89]

son because I only post the ACTUAL stats. no rounding up is allowed, this isn't grade school. David West dropped 32 points tonight which will easily boost his 18.8 ppg average over 19 ... Duncan on the other hand is still at 13ppg.

Son did the hornets win?

Son I'm still wondering how D.West can be shut down by average small-forward defender? This hasn't happened to Duncan. This really does interest me,help me out.

[WeNeedLength]

Son did the hornets win?

Son I'm still wondering how D.West can be shut down by average small-forward defender? This hasn't happened to Duncan. This really does interest me,help me out.

Argue with logic, and they will never answer back. Might as well back out before the trolls come out of their nocturnal states. Run!

[BRHornet45]

LMAO sons I will not hold ALL Spurs fans accountable for these two trolls above me.

wow ... so I expose the facts that Tim Duncan has turned into a 3rd or even 4th scoring option ROLE player this season and the best you can do is talk smack about David FUCKING West??? lol ... the funniest part about it is that you idiots fail to realize West STILL managed to score more points and be more productive than Duncan was in those 3 head to head games this season! If West was "shut down" as you call it, then what does that make Duncan in those games??? lol wow ignorance is bliss.

[Nathan89]

son because I only post the ACTUAL stats. no rounding up is allowed, this isn't grade school. David West dropped 32 points tonight which will easily boost his 18.8 ppg average over 19 ... Duncan on the other hand is still at 13ppg.

Can you tell me where to get the actual stats because the Heat website says Bosh averages 7.9 rebounds per game and you said 8. On the flip side Duncan's 13.9 was rounded to 13 and 9.5 to 9.

I know your stats are the actual stats but now I need to know where to get them.

Thanks for the the hardwork on the unbiased material;)

[mavs>spurs]

yeah, but celtic fans don't have his nuts on their tonsils.

y'all bitches are whining about how he's a top 10 player. even the most ardent nuthugging shaq fan isn't saying he's even a top 10 CENTER.

i never named the current Tim Duncan as a top 10 player of today. he used to be but no longer is. the Spurs are still a top3 team though, at least a top 3 in the western conference. maybe Tim is playing a less important role for spurs now but he's still a pivot for us, and will always be until he calls time to his career.

[TE]

tbh honest as long as the spurs tap that hornet ass, the spurs and their fanbase is good.


godbless

[ChumpDumper]

Tim Duncan has 13.9 ppg right now ... are you really that damn butthurt about it? its not my fault the dude can't score anymore lol


David West on the other hand WAS averaging 18.8 ppg until tonight whenever he dropped 32 points which boosted his average to well over 19. LOL chump. LOL epic fail. LOL being mad that your hero isn't even a top 40 player anymore

but but but!!!! its his SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP that leads the Spurs!!!! LOLlol changing "ACTUAL" stats when you are called out

[BRHornet45]

Can you tell me where to get the actual stats because the Heat website says Bosh averages 7.9 rebounds per game and you said 8. On the flip side Duncan's 13.9 was rounded to 13 and 9.5 to 9.

I know your stats are the actual stats but now I need to know where to get them.

Thanks for the the hardwork on the unbiased material;)

lol 13.9 ppg from a supposed "elite player"
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8231/2e5qqyvjpg.gif

[ChumpDumper]

lol David West

[Nathan89]

LMAO sons I will not hold ALL Spurs fans accountable for these two trolls above me.

wow ... so I expose the facts that Tim Duncan has turned into a 3rd or even 4th scoring option ROLE player this season and the best you can do is talk smack about David FUCKING West??? lol ... the funniest part about it is that you idiots fail to realize West STILL managed to score more points and be more productive than Duncan was in those 3 head to head games this season! If West was "shut down" as you call it, then what does that make Duncan in those games??? lol wow ignorance is bliss.

When you put a sf on a pf and then overcome a 17pt deficit I would say that is a shut down. He should have been able to score on Rj 50+% of the time. It should have been impossible to overcome a 17pt deficit.

As for focusing on David West, I guess we just assumed if any part of the analysis was correct it would be this part. This should be the strength of your post yet I have ripped it to pieces.

[TE]

lol David West

LOL getting shut down by Richard Jefferson :lmao

[BRHornet45]

Lol butthurt city!!!!

[WeNeedLength]

OP thinks I'm talking about David West in my argument. Shows how fucking clueless he is. Hollinger > You

[ChumpDumper]

Lol butthurt city!!!!lol talking about New Orleans

lol 65+ wins

[mavs>spurs]

when Duncan feels he can no longer contribute, he will just choose to retire rather than join another team for vet minimum. Tim has got all honors an athlete can get and he achieved all these glories with the same team.

[BRHornet45]

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1715/butthurt.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

lol 65+ win prediction

lol avoiding that thread like the plague

[TE]

Lol butthurt city!!!!

lol butthurt city?


You got to be fucking kidding me mrs. "oh mah gawd, the hornats are NBA's team, oh mah gawd" and "chris paul, gtfo out" and "trevor ariza, nothing but a glorified devin brown" and "sons, the Hornets will tap that ass (game were Spurs came back by 17 only to blow the 'better' team".


I like what your smoking BR.

It is really killing your perception on reality.

[BRHornet45]

when Duncan feels he can no longer contribute, he will just choose to retire rather than join another team for vet minimum. Tim has got all honors an athlete can get and he achieved all these glories with the same team.

son I just hope he does it at the end of this season or next. People think I am trying to bash Duncan, but I have said numerous times that I respect the guy for what he has done. I just don't want to watch him become a circus act joke like he is starting to become.

[ChumpDumper]

son I just hope he does it at the end of this season or next. People think I am trying to bash Duncan, but I have said numerous times that I respect the guy for what he has done. I just don't want to watch him become a circus act joke like he is starting to become.lol people might mistake him for David West

[BRHornet45]

lol butthurt city?


You got to be fucking kidding me mrs. "oh mah gawd, the hornats are NBA's team, oh mah gawd" and "chris paul, gtfo out" and "trevor ariza, nothing but a glorified devin brown" and "sons, the Hornets will tap that ass (game were Spurs came back by 17 only to blow the 'better' team".


I like what your smoking BR.

It is really killing your perception on reality.

who dat!

[BRHornet45]

lol people might mistake him for David West

lolz sons the chumpdumper is MAD tonight!!!

[TE]

son I just hope he does it at the end of this season or next. People think I am trying to bash Duncan, but I have said numerous times that I respect the guy for what he has done. I just don't want to watch him become a circus act joke like he is starting to become.

Please.
:rolleyes

[WeNeedLength]

http://fresnobeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/hollinger1.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

lolz sons the chumpdumper is MAD tonight!!!lol thinking amusement is anger

lol 65+ wins

lol 13.9 is acutally 13.0

[BRHornet45]

lol thinking amusement is anger

lol 65+ wins

lol the chumpdump keeping me entertained tonight!

[ChumpDumper]

lol the chumpdump keeping me entertained tonight!lol entertained by your 65+ win prediction thread

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166421

[BRHornet45]

lol having to round 13 up to 14 ... LOL 14ppg!!! something to be proud of!

[TE]

lol entertained by your 65+ win prediction thread

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166421

lol I remember this.

[BRHornet45]

lol entertained by your 65+ win prediction thread

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166421

lol at your lack of reading and comprehending skills!

I asked the question if the Hornets can win 65 games! I didn't predict they would win 65 games butthurt boy!

[ChumpDumper]

lol having to round 13 up to 14 ... LOL 14ppg!!! something to be proud of!lol having to lie about 13 instead of 14!!!! something to be proud of!

[BRHornet45]

lol sons I haven't seen ChumpDump this MAD in quite a while lolzzzz

[ChumpDumper]

lol at your lack of reading and comprehending skills!

I asked the question if the Hornets can win 65 games! I didn't predict they would win 65 games butthurt boy!
1. Hornets 65-17

2. Lakers 62-20

3. San Antonio 56-26

4. Utah 55-27

5. Oklahoma City 54-28

6. Golden State 51-31

7. Dallas 50-32

8. Denver 49-33lol lying about your own prediction

[TE]

lol lying about your own prediction

face it BR, you just got sharted on.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

[BRHornet45]

lol lying about your own prediction

lol son there is clearly a question mark in that post!

lol ChumpDump mad!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

lol son there is clearly a question mark in that post!

lol ChumpDump mad!!!!!
1. Hornets 65-17

2. Lakers 62-20

3. San Antonio 56-26

4. Utah 55-27

5. Oklahoma City 54-28

6. Golden State 51-31

7. Dallas 50-32

8. Denver 49-33lol lying about a question mark

[TE]

lol at anyone who takes BR seriously.

[BRHornet45]

lol lying about a question mark

lol at you taking a completely different post and using it! lol mad mad mad!!!

[ChumpDumper]

65 will be easy. The question will be 70.lol no question marks

[BRHornet45]

lol no question marks

lol son that's not even me!

[BRHornet45]

Can the Hornets win 65+ games?
sons for those of you who remember, long before the season started I predicted that the Hornets will win at least 55 games this season. As usual I was mocked for my prediction, but I am beginning to think I underestimated this team. 65 wins?

[ChumpDumper]

lol son that's not even me!lol looking at blue names of delusional posters
1. Hornets 65-17

2. Lakers 62-20

3. San Antonio 56-26

4. Utah 55-27

5. Oklahoma City 54-28

6. Golden State 51-31

7. Dallas 50-32

8. Denver 49-33

[BRHornet45]

lol imma stawwwww

[Nathan89]

Can you tell me where to get the actual stats because the Heat website says Bosh averages 7.9 rebounds per game and you said 8. On the flip side Duncan's 13.9 was rounded to 13 and 9.5 to 9.

I know your stats are the actual stats but now I need to know where to get them.

Thanks for the the hardwork on the unbiased material;)


lol 13.9 ppg from a supposed "elite player"
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8231/2e5qqyvjpg.gif

No better way to complete a 1000 posts than beating the shit out of a troll.

I gave facts and you give me bullshit back. Real cool.

--------------------
No need to compare Duncan to Manu and Parker so lets take a look at the beginning of your analysis. Keep in mind I already destroyed the strength of your post. You know the part when you thought David West was better than Tim Duncan. Even though West gets shut down by small-forwards.

To the Top-Atlanta
Apparently you think Joe Johnson and Horford are better than Tim Duncan.

Joe Johnson 17.9ppg on .387fg% last year in the playoffs
Al Horford 14.6ppg adn 9rpg last year in the playoffs

As far as I am concerned those numbers suck and Tim Duncan's 19ppg and 9.9rpg trumps them both. Seems like Duncan is better than these two. Man I thought you said you put a lot of effort into this. So far everything I looked at sucks.

[ChumpDumper]

Can the Hornets win 65+ games?
sons for those of you who remember, long before the season started I predicted that the Hornets will win at least 55 games this season. As usual I was mocked for my prediction, but I am beginning to think I underestimated this team. 65 wins?lol six posts later
1. Hornets 65-17

2. Lakers 62-20

3. San Antonio 56-26

4. Utah 55-27

5. Oklahoma City 54-28

6. Golden State 51-31

7. Dallas 50-32

8. Denver 49-33

[TE]

Man, BR, I thought you were a legit poster. I thought wrong.




You belong in the lake of inferiority with Lava and Kool.

[BRHornet45]

mad about facts being posted. lol

[ChumpDumper]

mad about facts being posted. lollol mad about 65-17 prediction

lol lying about having made it

lol lying about question marks

lol mad at getting caught lying

[BRHornet45]

mad mad mad Spur fan!!!! maddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[ChumpDumper]

lol mad mad mad lying Hornet fan!!!! maddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[BRHornet45]

13 and 9 LOL how pathetic

[ChumpDumper]

lol changing ACTUAL stats again when you get mad

[LkrFan]

This thread rulez. Good job BR. :toast

[mavs>spurs]

nba forum is the new "troll forum", this thread gives a good example why.

[BRHornet45]

nba forum is the new "troll forum", this thread gives a good example why.

son coming from someone with 20 post your recommendation should be taken seriously. after all, posting factual information with statistics should be considered trolling.

[ChumpDumper]

lol factual information

[Tp9gospursgo]

23-3 > 16-11 'nuff said. Duncan doesn't have to be the best player anymore.

[Rummpd]

Son your list is inane and sublime. Duncan still has a PER (he is 16th in the entire league despite his limited play) of about 22 in Hollinger's adjusted PER and also blocked 12 shots in 2 games last week.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

I would not take ten of those players you list over Duncan for any team come playoff time - watch and learn, he is saving himself for when it counts and then he will be again one of very best bigs in basketball.

[21_Blessings]

Did the 2nd round last May not 'count', Rump?

[Texas_Ranger]

Players than play more minutes than Tim Duncan:

Players that take more shots than Tim Duncan:



Spurs
Manu Ginobili 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
Tony Parker 18/7 - Duncan 13/9

Atlanta
Joe Johnson 17/5 - Duncan 13/9
Al Horford 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Boston
Paul Pierce 18/5 - Duncan 13/9
Ray Allen 17ppg - Duncan 13/9
Kevin Garnett 15/10 - Duncan 13/9

Chicago
Derrick Rose 24/8 - Duncan 13/9
Carlos Boozer 18/8 - Duncan 13/9 -after 3 games Carlos will average more min.

Dallas
Dirk Nowitzki 24/7 - Duncan 13/9

Denver
Carmelo Anthony 24/8 - Duncan 13/9

Golden State
Monta Ellis 24/5 - Duncan 13/9
Stephen Curry 20/5 - Duncan 13/9
David Lee 14/10 - Duncan 13/9

Houston
Kevin Martin 23ppg - Duncan 13/9
Luis Scola 20/8 - Duncan 13/9

Indiana
Danny Granger 21/5 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Clippers
Eric Gordon 23/5 - Duncan 13/9
Blake Griffin 20/12 - Duncan 13/9

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant 26/5 - Duncan 13/9
Pau Gasol 20/11 - Duncan 13/9
Lamar Odom 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

Memphis
Rudy Gay 21/6 - Duncan 13/9
Zach Randolph 18/12 - Duncan 13/9

Miami
Lebron James 24/7 - Duncan 13/9
Dwyane Wade 23/6 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Bosh 18/8 - Duncan 13/9

Milwaukee
Andrew Bogut 14/12 - Duncan 13/9

Minnesota
Kevin Love 21/15 - Duncan 13/9
Michael Beasley 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

New Orleans
David West 19/7 - Duncan 13/9
Chris Paul 16/10 - Duncan 13/9

New York
Amare Stoudemire 26/9 - Duncan 13/9
Raymond Felton 18/9 - Duncan 13/9

Oklahoma City
Kevin Durant 27/6 - Duncan 13/9
Russell Westbrook 23/8 - Duncan 13/9

Orlando
Dwight Howard 21/12 - Duncan 13/9

Phoenix
Steve Nash 17/10 - Duncan 13/9

Portland
LaMarcus Aldridge 18/8 - Duncan 13/9
(Brandon Roy would also get the nod if not for injuries)

Toronto
Andrea Bargnani 21/6 - Duncan 13/9

Utah
Deron Williams 22/9 - Duncan 13/9
Paul Millsap 17/8 - Duncan 13/9
Al Jefferson 16/8 - Duncan 13/9



Teams that have a better record than the Spurs:

????????????????????????????????????

[buttsR4rebounding]

[QUOTE=BRHornet45;4834801]son I really am happy for Spurs fans. I have a lot of respect for that organization. The way Manu and Parker took over the team leadership from Duncan in 2007 is worthy of respectThis is not meant to bash Duncan, but just simply expose the facts. He had one hell of a 10 year run as the Spurs best player, but those days are long gone. It just sucks to see him falling off so quickly at such a young age. This started whenever he was only 30 years old.[/QUOTE

Fail...why don't you go back to your Hornets board (if there is still one) and commisserate with the other 3 Hornets fans that soon there will be no basketball in New Orleans instead of polluting our board.:deadhorse

[urunobili]

lol butthurt bee

[Rummpd]

Fools = anyone of the above who is dissing Duncan right now while his team is 23 and 3and he still has a PER of over 22 in Hollinger's ratings. Duncan is also fully capable of many more games like his 28/16 and 4 blocks vs. Denver when it counts.

For the record also his current ppg is 13.9, his rebounds are 9.5 (rounds up to 10) and his block per game is a stout 2.1 per game.

His rebounding rate per 48 min is also top ten in the NBA:

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Rebounds.jsp?league=00&season=22006&conf=OVERALL&position=0&splitType=9&qualified=Y&yearsExp=-1&sortOrder=7

Idiocy to diss Duncan while his team is doing so well and he is too in value to winning

[Muser]

:lmao spurfan is so easy to troll.

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah, but it has nothing to with Duncan's play. He's playing like a piece of shit right now, and has been for years.

And yet he would still start over Bynum if he was on the Lakers. :lol

When's the last time Bynum went for 28/16/4/4? :lmao

Tim Duncan's 34 year old knees >>>> Andrew Bynum's 23 year old knees.

Kind of sad, isn't it. :hat

[Trill Clinton]

Did Tim Duncan fuck some y'alls bitch or sum?

[Cry Havoc]

What's even more sad is you comparing Duncan to Bynum.:lol

What's sad is that you say that Duncan is playing like a piece of shit even though you'd give your left testicle to see him in purple and gold.

[Warlord23]

All-time Player Efficiency Rating leaders in NBA history


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.67
7. Bob Pettit 25.37
8. Tim Duncan 25.02
9. Neil Johnston 24.72
10. Charles Barkley 24.63

[weebo]

LMAO sons I will not hold ALL Spurs fans accountable for these two trolls above me.

wow ... so I expose the facts that Tim Duncan has turned into a 3rd or even 4th scoring option ROLE player this season and the best you can do is talk smack about David FUCKING West??? lol ... the funniest part about it is that you idiots fail to realize West STILL managed to score more points and be more productive than Duncan was in those 3 head to head games this season! If West was "shut down" as you call it, then what does that make Duncan in those games??? lol wow ignorance is bliss.

Son, I had you pegged better than this. But its obvious you are trying mightily to troll. Congrats on being Duncan hata troll 1b to lakaluva's 1a.

[TE]

This thread should be locked. Any stupid fuck who considers Andrew Bynum in the league of a Tim Duncan should be banned for good. And any retard who would pick a player who got shut down by RJ over Tim Duncan should be branded with a "I am stupid" on his/her forehead.

[Blake]

entertaining thread, imo.

[hater]

and the NBA world is officially fooled. CIA Pop strikes again.

[LakaFan]

I already have an old washed up player on my team in Theo and why would I want to pay Jim 22mil for 13/9!!!:wow
For that production he must be the most overpaid player in the NBA.

[Cry Havoc]

Son, I had you pegged better than this. But its obvious you are trying mightily to troll. Congrats on being Duncan hata troll 1b to lakaluva's 1a.

He's just pissy because his team is sucking and has been renamed the New Orleans Sterns.

[Venti Quattro]

tldr

[TimDunkem]

tldr

[jestersmash]

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