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spur219
05-27-2005, 12:25 PM
How did the Mohammed trade work. Was it both of the Spurs pick in this upcoming draft? Or was it one this year and a conditional future first rounder.

BronxCowboy
05-27-2005, 12:31 PM
The second thing you said.

spur219
05-27-2005, 12:33 PM
So the Spurs have one pick this year. Which one did they trade. Their own or Phx's pick?

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-27-2005, 12:33 PM
One this year, plus a first rounder next year.

Solid D
05-27-2005, 12:36 PM
The Spurs traded PHX pick to the Knicks. If you look at the 1st round of the June draft, you will see NY picks last (PHX had best record).

T Park
05-27-2005, 01:28 PM
Yeah they kept the better pick this year wich is 28th.

It wouldve been neat though for the Spurs to have 2 first rounders this year, and see who they wouldve taken.

1 for next year, 1 for europe for two years im sure.


The trade though is fantastic MOhammed for Rose and some euro scrubs for the next couple years.

Duff McCartney
05-27-2005, 01:48 PM
It wouldve been neat though for the Spurs to have 2 first rounders this year, and see who they wouldve taken.

Nobody. They'd have traded both of their picks, and they are gonna trade the one they have now...first rounders have guaranteed money. I think they will trade it to have enough money to resign Devin and bring in Scola.

johndraegerhhs
05-27-2005, 03:20 PM
the number 28 has been good to the spurs 1st round 28th pickTony Parker 2nd round 28th pick Manu Ginobili

JLH Fans
05-27-2005, 05:00 PM
Maybe it"s worth to take Salim Stoudimaire ,he is probably the best shooter in the world.

Solid D
05-27-2005, 05:08 PM
the number 28 has been good to the spurs 1st round 28th pickTony Parker 2nd round 28th pick Manu Ginobili

Beno Udrih 28th pick, 2004.

JLH Fans
05-27-2005, 05:59 PM
I always admire the SAS's draft style they can choose very good players even with a very bad draft pick....
They really love to choose talented International/European players.
Many teams ignore them but I don' t know why:(

BadlyDrawnBoy
05-27-2005, 06:01 PM
The Spurs would have had two first round picks this year but with the trade we gave up one.

No biggie.

Solid D
05-27-2005, 06:16 PM
As was referenced before, two 1st-round, guaranteed 3-yr. contracts ain't gonna happen with the Spurs.

exstatic
05-27-2005, 06:18 PM
Nobody. They'd have traded both of their picks, and they are gonna trade the one they have now...first rounders have guaranteed money. I think they will trade it to have enough money to resign Devin and bring in Scola.
Nope. Those days are over. They are over the cap, so will have to use exceptions to sign Brown and/or Scola. The days of saving caproom are gone. SA won't have any caproom for at least 5-6 years with the deals in place. No reason to trade picks now.

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-27-2005, 07:12 PM
If they would have kept them I could have seen them trading both to move up, or sending one or both off in a deal.

No way they would have used both.

Mr. Body
05-27-2005, 07:59 PM
First Rounders can and will be signed despite going over the cap. A team doesn't need cap room to sign their 1st Rnders, in other words.

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-27-2005, 08:20 PM
This isn't about fitting draft picks in underneath the cap, it's about the typical fiduciary responsibility of the Spurs franchise.

exstatic
05-27-2005, 08:24 PM
AHF - Those picks make like 700K-800K. SA spends more on their end of bench vets. If they were that fucking cheap they wouldn't have three players kept on the DL, they'd have none.

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-27-2005, 08:29 PM
Yeah, but the league pays half the vets' salaries. I'm just saying in the past the Spurs were all about staying under the luxury tax, every little bit counted.

Solid D
05-27-2005, 10:46 PM
It's a 3-year commitment for just under $3M for the 28th pick. Beno, for instance, is committed at $841,680 this year, $904,800 next year and $967,920 in 2007, according to Hoopshype. It's a roster spot and the pick needs to be able to contribute. For every Tony Parker and Beno Udrih, there is a Kendrick Perkins. The 3-year commitment players need to be able to do more than play on the practice squad (IR), in order to build a successful system.

Guru of Nothing
05-27-2005, 11:02 PM
It's a 3-year commitment for just under $3M for the 28th pick. Beno, for instance, is committed at $841,680 this year, $904,800 next year and $967,920 in 2007, according to Hoopshype. It's a roster spot and the pick needs to be able to contribute. For every Tony Parker and Beno Udrih, there is a Kendrick Perkins. The 3-year commitment players need to be able to do more than play on the practice squad (IR), in order to build a successful system.

It's still a small risk.

That said, I still like the way the Spur's picks tend to spend quality time developing in Europe.

Mr. Body
05-27-2005, 11:10 PM
This is a potentially deep draft with a number of Point Guards near the top and some intriguing SF types hovering around the gap between rounds. Precisely what SA needs. But they could mime what they've done before and trade into the 2nd Round in order to get out of the committed contract.

Solid D
05-27-2005, 11:35 PM
I remember when Luis Scola was so despondent when the Spurs did not select him at 26 (the Speedy Claxton trade). He wanted the guaranteed money and would have come to the Spurs in the 2002-03 season (Championship season, as it turned out). Scola fell all the way to 56th and the Spurs ended up taking him there, and with no guarantees, he ended up getting a nice contract in Spain.

Pandaemonaeon
05-28-2005, 01:13 AM
How did SA get Phoenix's 2005 pick?


They really love to choose talented International/European players. Many teams ignore them but I don' t know why:(

Maybe because very few EU stiffs pan out? For every Ginobili there's Tsakalidis, Oyedeji, Tskitishvili, and Samake. For every Parker, there's Rakokevic, Kasun, Bagaric, and some other douche that's white and uncoordinated.

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timvp
05-28-2005, 01:19 AM
I remember when Luis Scola was so despondent when the Spurs did not select him at 26 (the Speedy Claxton trade). He wanted the guaranteed money and would have come to the Spurs in the 2002-03 season (Championship season, as it turned out). Scola fell all the way to 56th and the Spurs ended up taking him there, and with no guarantees, he ended up getting a nice contract in Spain.

Actually, didn't he sign that Spain contract like in 1997 or something? I remember it being a 10-year contract.

The reason Scola fell so far is because everyone knew he had a tough buyout. I think it gets less each year but unless a team was willing to wait a couple years, they weren't going to pick him. And with GMs and coaches get fired left and right, there aren't too many front offices out there that could have waited three years for the guy to arrive.