But He Doesn't Spread The Floor!

[EricD]

"But he doesn't spread the floor," Pop snaps back in anger to Spurstalk posters who have a clue.

Can somebody give this man a fucking clue?

Play the fucking guy already Pop!

As I said before, Spurs won't win anything unless Spurs play the personnel that gives them the most defensive potential. That situation DOES NOT include Bonner. It includes Splitter!!

Did you see his post defense and his defensive positioning around the basket?! He contested and effected like 5 layups that went clang because the penetrators on the Thuggets had to change their release point on their layups. All because of Splitter!! When was the last time you've seen Bonner do that?? ( Yeah that's what I figured.. NEVER!!)

Another example I can use was Bonner's post defense against Zach Randolph. Just take a second and close your eyes and go through your memory chamber upstairs and just relive Bonner getting MURDERED on the block by Z-bo!! Are you closing your eyes yet? Keep them closed. And just see Zach Randolph abusing Bonner over and over.

Okay now that you have that pictured, my fellow grey and black posters of ST, I want you to close your eyes and go through your memory chamber again. Remember last night when Nene was trying to post up Splitter, and remember how Splitter wasn't having any of that! Remember Splitter keeping Nene in check ( Something Duncan couldn't even do the last two times Spurs faced the Nuggets). Spurs will need this kind of defensive presence in the rotation when the Gettysburg, Battle of Bunker Hill, and Battle of the Alamo all resurface come late May and early June when the Spurs declare war on the Lakers and Celtics.


I don't know how else to explain but Spurs need....

MORE SPLITTER!! If you don't believe EricD, then just ask Bruce Dickinson himself!

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/SpursAreTheBestEver/MoreSplitter1.jpg

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If and when Splitter plays more it won't be at the expense of Bonner, but Dyess or Blair.

[Darkwaters]

I don't think we need to be worried about Bonner's defense. The 2 ton elephant in the room is Blair's defense, not Bonner's. Matt has done a decent job on defense this season at least showing effort and limiting mistakes. Meanwhile, Blair is clueless.

Sure McDyess and Splitter have the most potential defensively of any big not named Timothy...but Bonner isn't the biggest problem. It's the guy starting games.

[EricD]

I don't think we need to be worried about Bonner's defense. The 2 ton elephant in the room is Blair's defense, not Bonner's. Matt has done a decent job on defense this season at least showing effort and limiting mistakes. Meanwhile, Blair is clueless.

Sure McDyess and Splitter have the most potential defensively of any big not named Timothy...but Bonner isn't the biggest problem. It's the guy starting games.

Good point as always Darkwaters :toast (btw I sent a friend request cool?)

Either way we can both agree.. More Splitter needs to happen, no?

[Spurs da champs]

Good point as always Darkwaters :toast (btw I sent a friend request cool?)

Either way we can both agree.. More Splitter needs to happen, no?
But when Bonner isn't making thees what is he good for atleast blair can rebound. BTW why need more shooters we got plenty now which is why I see no more need for Bonner.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

I have a fever.... and the only prescription, is more Splitter!

[Darkwaters]

Finding time for all the bigs is a significant debate currently. Honestly, the Spurs have 5 very capable bigs. Finding time for them all is always going to be hard. Especially if we play small ball!

Duncan and McDyess are, of course, the class of the crew but probably need more rest than the rest as well - especially Antonio. They're both multi-faceted players that can do everything pretty well, are really savvy and basketball smart.

The rest of the players are more akin to specialists. They do one thing well and are generally called in to provide that one skill.

Blair: Rebounding (Splitter/Bonner are poor rebounders)
Bonner: Shooting (Blair/Splitter have no range)
Splitter: Defense (Blair/Bonner suck at defense)

It honestly offers pretty good balance when you think about it. But while Blair and Bonner both suck at defense, Bonner is the better of the two (by far). And while Splitter and Bonner both suck at rebounding, Bonner really isn't too far off from Splitter's skill level.

I'm no Bonner fan. But considering the deficiencies of Blair he looks pretty good. Still, I think the upside of Splitter once hes bought into the system and moving and grooving is considerably higher than Matt.

What would make the most sense is to shift Blair out of the starting line up so that he can compete against back ups and reserves. Against them I think he'll excel. But against starters he does struggle. McDyess would be the best possible replacement, but resting him as much as we have been is keeping him fresh. Plus it opens up more rotation minutes for Splitter and Blair to work through their growing pains. So I don't know that I'd support that either. I don't ever want Bonner to be a starter on this team again, barring injury, and nor do I think Splitter is ready for that upgrade. He still needs to acclimate.

Plus moving Blair out of the starting line up would be, at this point, messing with a good thing. We're winning, a lot, when we use that line up. Don't mess with a good thing.

So yea, I'd like to see more Splitter. But shifting roles will be hard. The best thing would probably be to get Splitter more minutes and play Blair more against reserves. That means either McDyess is in the game more often or Bonner is logging big minutes against starters. Pick your poison.

[Darkwaters]

But when Bonner isn't making thees what is he good for atleast blair can rebound. BTW why need more shooters we got plenty now which is why I see no more need for Bonner.

But except for a few recent games, Blair hasn't been the rebounding force I would have liked.

[Spurs da champs]

But except for a few recent games, Blair hasn't been the rebounding force I would have liked.

For the minutes he gets I'll take it, Splitter may not have range but Bonner can't do anything but shoot, Splitter should get a whole lot more playing time, no?

[Blanchard 48MoH]

To put it simply for some of you, Tiago played a lot of basketball during the summer. He also traveled quite a bit. During that time he sustained several leg injuries--not the kind that take you out, but the sort that are nagging and over time produce diminishing returns. Go back and look at the Brazil v. Argentina game and the starting lineup for Brazil.

Pop's approach to Tiago has been appropriate. This isn't a case of Ian Mahinmi, though some are overreacting like it is. Pop respects and trusts Splitter, he just has to slowly work him in without taxing him too much.

[BlairForceDejuan]

"But he doesn't spread the floor," Pop snaps back in anger to Spurstalk posters who have a clue.

Can somebody give this man a fucking clue?

Play the fucking guy already Pop!

As I said before, Spurs won't win anything unless Spurs play the personnel that gives them the most defensive potential. That situation DOES NOT include Bonner. It includes Splitter!!

Did you see his post defense and his defensive positioning around the basket?! He contested and effected like 5 layups that went clang because the penetrators on the Thuggets had to change their release point on their layups. All because of Splitter!! When was the last time you've seen Bonner do that?? ( Yeah that's what I figured.. NEVER!!)

Another example I can use was Bonner's post defense against Zach Randolph. Just take a second and close your eyes and go through your memory chamber upstairs and just relive Bonner getting MURDERED on the block by Z-bo!! Are you closing your eyes yet? Keep them closed. And just see Zach Randolph abusing Bonner over and over.

Okay now that you have that pictured, my fellow grey and black posters of ST, I want you to close your eyes and go through your memory chamber again. Remember last night when Nene was trying to post up Splitter, and remember how Splitter wasn't having any of that! Remember Splitter keeping Nene in check ( Something Duncan couldn't even do the last two times Spurs faced the Nuggets). Spurs will need this kind of defensive presence in the rotation when the Gettysburg, Battle of Bunker Hill, and Battle of the Alamo all resurface come late May and early June when the Spurs declare war on the Lakers and Celtics.


I don't know how else to explain but Spurs need....

MORE SPLITTER!! If you don't believe EricD, then just ask Bruce Dickinson himself!

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/SpursAreTheBestEver/MoreSplitter1.jpg


mothafocking co-signed.

Blair needs to take Christmas break off, and grow 4 more inches as well.

[EricD]

To put it simply for some of you, Tiago played a lot of basketball during the summer.

We know, we know don't get it twisted my man. Us :worthy: Splitter, doesn't necessarily mean we are begging for him to play 38 minutes a night.

Even with the play this summer, he essentially took all of October off and probably another whole month off when you combine all the DNP's and the extended bench time he's received so far.

That being said I think it's reasonable to believe his 25 year old body is more than capable of playing more than 11 minutes a night (when he does get to play once every three games). Don't you agree?

[kjhip1]

Seeing as though we have not really faced any elite teams other then Dallas, I really dont think Pop will determine how to handle the playing time of these three against elite teams until he sees how the lineups do against LA, Boston, Miami (not elite, but could be). I think Pop will have a better feel for how he'll play Bonner, Blair, and Splitter once he sees how we match up. Dallas is a the odd ball becuase we seem to be facing them alot and its truly based on rivalry...Keep in mind its Splitter's first year and he has not went up against the likes of Gasol and Odom in the NBA (he has overseas). We still have alot of the season left, so before we start jumping off the bridge about playing time, let's take the wait and see approach as we play these teams within the next two weeks...25-3 means we're doing something right!!!

[jsandiego]

I wish Splitter could acquire Blair's strength. He was abused underneath on the defensive boards a few times yesterday. Hopefully that will change with playing time as he continues to adjust to the NBA game.

Blair, on the other hand -- his defense is regressing. Our whole team played matador defense last night and it drove me crazy. Luckily the zone bailed us out in the 4th Q.

[SpursDynasty85]

If and when Splitter plays more it won't be at the expense of Bonner, but Dyess or Blair.


Seeing as though we have not really faced any elite teams other then Dallas, I really dont think Pop will determine how to handle the playing time of these three against elite teams until he sees how the lineups do against LA, Boston, Miami (not elite, but could be). I think Pop will have a better feel for how he'll play Bonner, Blair, and Splitter once he sees how we match up. Dallas is a the odd ball becuase we seem to be facing htem alot and its truly based on rivalry...Keep in mind its Splitter's first year and he has not went up against the likes of Gasol and Odom in the NBA (he has overseas). We still have alot of the season left, so before we start jumping over the bridge about playing time, let's take the wait and see approach as we play these teams within the next two weeks...25-3 means we're doing something right!!!


So will lakers,celtics, and mavs tank on purpose when bonner is in the game so they can see more bonner in a playoff match up? That would be really ingenius by them.

[kjhip1]

So will lakers,celtics, and mavs tank on purpose when bonner is in the game so they can see more bonner in a playoff match up? That would be really ingenius by them.

LOL..that would be Ingenius of them...but my point is there's no point in getting all bent out of shape when Tiago is in his first year..Blannchard had made a point about Pop giving him minutes based on what he did in the summer..Tiago was busy and the one thing you don't want to do is wear him out by the time the playoffs come around.

I do however, like the emergence of Neal's offensive game (other then 3's) I think once he gets his 3's going, his ability to pump fake and drive make him even more valuable...Great week for himk so far..Our our guard situation is pretty impressive..

[EricD]

...25-3 means we're doing something right!!!

We are talking about the grand scheme of things here bud. Not the present.

Splitter will have to be a major part of the rotation in order for the Spurs to reach their maximum potential. Especially on the defensive end.

We understand that Splitter can't be thrown in the fire and play 30+ minutes a night right away. That's not what we are asking.

We are just aware of how far this front-court took us last year when Phoenix slaughtered us with the pick and roll and got whatever they wanted in the paint, out of the paint, any and every which way. At the same time, we are aware of the Lakers and Celtics personnel in the front-court, which doesn't bode well with an undersized,and defenseless front-court featuring Blair and Bonner. This is where Splitter will be needed if Pop is really serious about this 5th trophy.

Some people really need to get a clue.

[Frenzy]

Is tiago pops last resort? If that's the case we'll see more tiago in the third and fourth quarter of orlando and lakers.

[kjhip1]

We are talking about the grand scheme of things here bud. Not the present.

Splitter will have to be a major part of the rotation in order for the Spurs to reach their maximum potential. Especially on the defensive end.

We understand that Splitter can't be thrown in the fire and play 30+ minutes a night right away. That's not what we are asking.

We are just aware of how far this front-court took us last year when Phoenix slaughtered us with the pick and roll and got whatever they wanted in the paint, out of the paint, any and every which way. At the same time, we are aware of the Lakers and Celtics personnel in the front-court, which doesn't bode well with an undersized,and defenseless front-court featuring Blair and Bonner. This is where Splitter will be needed if Pop is really serious about this 5th trophy.

I will admit we could have used someone like Splitter last year to defend that pick and roll as he has made it clear that his IQ is high when it comes to defending that offensive set.. But you are correct out of the three he does pose the biggest asset to defending such teams who utilize the pick and roll.

[Cane]

I'm not concerned with Splitter's minutes right now since the Spurs schedule is only going to get busier and Duncan and McDyess will need all the rest they can get especially later on. As long as Tiago stays healthy he's going to be fed minutes. However next season is really going to be Tiago's breakout season imo because by then McDyess would be retired and he's a huge part of the Spurs now.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

If and when Splitter plays more it won't be at the expense of Bonner, but Dyess or Blair.

That's right, because the Spurs are 15-0 when Bonner scores at least 6 points. Unless Bonner starts passing up shots, Pop is going to keep going to him, regardless of what he gives up on the defensive end.

McDyess's rebounding ability and his ability to hit the mid-range shot will keep him in the mix, but his age should provide minutes for Splitter in back-to-backs, especially as the season wears on.

Blair isn't going anywhere either as long as he continues to rebound, scrap and hit free throws, but his size will provide match-up issues for which Splitter might be seen as a solution.

@EricD

Shit dude, what do you want? YOUR TEAM IS TWENTY-FIVE AND THREE. You'd better enjoy it while Timmy's wheels are still on.

In the meantime, I don't get the kvetching about Pop's staying out of the way; it's what good coaches do when their teams are performing well. The fact is, this team has great chemistry and depth. Splitter showed us something last night (and while overall it was good, he did fumble several rebounds), but Pop is not going to retool a lineup that is off to a blistering start.

As far as your arguments about defense, you're partially right. We're not what we used to be and Matt Bonner is not David Robinson or Rasho Nesterovic or Nazr Mohammed.

The days of the Spurs "48 minutes of hell defense" are over. We're going to have to settle for 12 minutes of purgatory in the fourth quarter. Tim isn't mobile enough to be the defensive beast he used to be, and Splitter isn't going to fill that gap.

Pop's transitioning of this team into an offensive juggernaut is a direct result of that decline. If you can live with scoring 110 points a game instead of 90, and giving up 96 instead of 90, I think you may survive the season. I know that's heresy in Spurs-land, but there it is. We can't beat 'em the old-fashioned way. Defense won our first four championships. With the pieces we have, offense will have to win the fifth. Tiago Splitter isn't an automatic ticket to way-back land, and Pop knows that.

I think you'll see Splitter's minutes creep upwards as the season progresses, but if you're looking to see Bonner, McDyess or Blair eliminated from the mix, get real.

[awktalk]

I sat courtside last night for Splitter's best game of the season. I'm unimpressed. The dude is so soft and has no offensive game other than cleaning up missed shots. He can't be trusted 1-on-1 on the block, and has absolutely no game outside of 8 feet. I just can't see him developing. We should deal him now before the rest of the league figures out he doesn't belong in any starting lineup.

[SpursDynasty85]

I sat courtside last night for Splitter's best game of the season. I'm unimpressed. The dude is so soft and has no offensive game other than cleaning up missed shots. He can't be trusted 1-on-1 on the block, and has absolutely no game outside of 8 feet. I just can't see him developing. We should deal him now before the rest of the league figures out he doesn't belong in any starting lineup.


I dont like to rag on people's opinions, but wow this is a really bad assessment of Splitter. He's looked more competent than any other spurs big man have had since D-Rob on the lowblock.

[rascal]

I sat courtside last night for Splitter's best game of the season. I'm unimpressed. The dude is so soft and has no offensive game other than cleaning up missed shots. He can't be trusted 1-on-1 on the block, and has absolutely no game outside of 8 feet. I just can't see him developing. We should deal him now before the rest of the league figures out he doesn't belong in any starting lineup.

This is what I said all along. Put a stronger big on him and push Splitter away from the basket and he is worthless. He won't matchup with LA or Dallas bigs and counting on him to bail the spurs frontline out against those teams is nothing more than wishful thinking.

[awktalk]

I dont like to rag on people's opinions, but wow this is a really bad assessment of Splitter. He's looked more competent than any other spurs big man have had since D-Rob on the lowblock.

I don't like to rag on people's opinions, but this is a really stupid statement. Putting Splitter's name in the same sentence with Robinson is insulting. Please point me to one move he has on the low block that doesn't involve him hoisting up some euro-spinner from his hip.

[Gagnrath]

Splitters not got a nba strength yet. That will change over the summer. It should help alot with his offensive game unless it slows him alot as well as rebounding. I see a slightly above average quality starting center.

[ChumpDumper]

Gee, it seems like Splitter is getting more time as the season progresses.

Some people already predicted that would happen.

[Mugen]

hmm maybe we should wait til Pop gives him rotation mins. for 2 straight games b4 Chump can start jerkin himself off.

[ChumpDumper]

hmm maybe we should wait til Pop gives him rotation mins. for 2 straight games b4 Chump can start jerkin himself off.hmm maybe you shouldn't whine just because you were wrong and others weren't.

It was predicted by many he would play more as the season went on.

He is playing more as the season goes on. His minutes will probably still fluctuate just like Dice's for the reasons that have been explained several times but folks like you choose to ignore.

Sorry you were wrong. Some people should be used to that by now though.

[Obstructed_View]

I sat courtside last night for Splitter's best game of the season.

*coughbullshitcough*

[Obstructed_View]

And Splitter got minutes next to Duncan. I don't care how many minutes he's gotten so far, playing the two of them together is an outstandingly good sign.

[Mugen]

hmm maybe you shouldn't whine just because you were wrong and others weren't.

It was predicted by many he would play more as the season went on.

He is playing more as the season goes on. His minutes will probably still fluctuate just like Dice's for the reasons that have been explained several times but folks like you choose to ignore.

Sorry you were wrong. Some people should be used to that by now though.

i shall never question Pop again.

Please proceed with the jerkin.

[ChumpDumper]

i shall never question Pop again.Why not? You were just wrong this time. It's not such a big deal that you have to get all pissy about it.


Please proceed with the jerkin.Please proceed with the butthurt.

[TJastal]

In November, Splitter had 9 games with double figure minutes. So far in December (ya, that's almost over) he's got only 3.

Apparently in the Chump's world, this is "playing more" LMAO

:rollin

[Obstructed_View]

But he got kicked in the nads, and apparently that means he's injury prone. How's Pop expected to play a guy that can't get himself right?

[ChumpDumper]

In TJastal's world, garbage time against bottom feeders is more important than rotation minutes against playoff teams.

And he thinks the Spurs have already lost nine games at the end of the season because they didn't play Splitter enough in that many games. LMAO

:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

But he got kicked in the nads, and apparently that means he's injury prone. How's Pop expected to play a guy that can't get himself right?He's injury prone because he's injury prone.

He has also played more basketball than usual the past calendar year.

Does that make an already injury prone player less injury prone?

[TJastal]

In TJastal's world, garbage time against bottom feeders is more important than rotation minutes against playoff teams.

And he thinks the Spurs have already lost nine games at the end of the season because they didn't play Splitter enough in that many games. LMAO

:rollin

Typical Chump. Just change the argument once itss been debunked. :lol

But just for shits n giggles I'll indulge your new "only rotation minutes against playoff teams count" argument. Let's take a look at those 3 games in December where he's gotten double figure minutes shall we..

DEN: Barely hanging on at #6
NOH: #7 but dropping out of the race faster than a brugatti in a wind tunnel.
GSW: Won't sniff the playoffs.

Wow, such important minutes here against such top flight competition. So impressive. :rollin

[Mugen]

Pop played Splitter 21 mins on the first game of a B2B, but probably wont play him more than 10 2nite @ ORL.

it's okay, this justifies all the Pop apologists. Errbody can no longer complain about Bonner or Blair getting more mins. than Tiago.

[ChumpDumper]

Typical Chump. Just change the argument once itss been debunked. :lol

But just for shits n giggles I'll indulge your new "only rotation minutes against playoff teams count" argument. Let's take a look at those 3 games in December where he's gotten double figure minutes shall we..

DEN: Barely hanging on at #6
NOH: #7 but dropping out of the race faster than a brugatti in a wind tunnel.
GSW: Won't sniff the playoffs.

Wow, such important minutes here against such top flight competition. So impressive. :rollinSo you're saying that rotation minutes against playoff teams are not more important than garbage time against bottom dwellers.

OK. That makes sense that you think that.

You also think Pop doesn't play Splitter because he doesn't like him and will never play him.

Makes sense that you think that as well.

I maintain Splitter will play more important minutes as the season goes on, but fewer than idiots who can't see what is actually happening will demand because he IS injury prone and has played a shit ton of basketball in the past year.

So far, I'm right.

[ChumpDumper]

Pop played Splitter 21 mins on the first game of a B2B, but probably wont play him more than 10 2nite @ ORL.I would think Dice would play more this game.


it's okay, this justifies all the Pop apologists. Errbody can no longer complain about Bonner or Blair getting more mins. than Tiago.No one is preventing you from complaining, emo.

[ClingingMars]

To put it simply for some of you, Tiago played a lot of basketball during the summer. He also traveled quite a bit. During that time he sustained several leg injuries--not the kind that take you out, but the sort that are nagging and over time produce diminishing returns. Go back and look at the Brazil v. Argentina game and the starting lineup for Brazil.

Pop's approach to Tiago has been appropriate. This isn't a case of Ian Mahinmi, though some are overreacting like it is. Pop respects and trusts Splitter, he just has to slowly work him in without taxing him too much.

nice to see ya at SpursTalk, and while you won't pimp your article, I will:

http://www.48minutesofhell.com/why-tiago-splitter-isnt-playing-for-spurs

good read

[Mugen]

When Pop apologizes again about not playing Splitter in the playoffs till we were down 3-1 to the Lakers, what will the appropriate response for a Pop apologist be?

[ChumpDumper]

When Pop apologizes again about not playing Splitter in the playoffs till we were down 3-1 to the Lakers, what will the appropriate response for a Pop apologist be?The appropriate response is "Congratulations, you just made a straw man argument."

[TJastal]

So you're saying that rotation minutes against playoff teams are not more important than garbage time against bottom dwellers.
Well I would actually lend some credence to your "revised" argument were it actually deserving. But it fell flat for me. And note the use of the word "some" is going out on a limb.


You also think Pop doesn't play Splitter because he doesn't like him and will never play him.
More blatant bs you grabbed out of your ass. I'm defenitely noticing a pattern here, Chump.


I maintain Splitter will play more important minutes as the season goes on, but fewer than idiots who can't see what is actually happening will demand because he IS injury prone and has played a shit ton of basketball in the past year.

So far, I'm right.

By all means, continue your deluded line of thought. But so far the facts aren't really supporting your original hypothesis.

[ChumpDumper]

Well I would actually lend some credence to your "revised" argument were it actually deserving. But it fell flat for me. And note the use of the word "some" is going out on a limb.Relax, you think garbage time is more important. That's fine for you.


More blatant bs you grabbed out of your ass. I'm defenitely noticing a pattern here, Chump.Yeah, the pattern is you have an agenda. You can't stop bitching even when the team is 25-3.


By all means, continue your deluded line of thought. But so far the facts aren't really supporting your original hypothesis.Your original hypothesis was Splitter is in the doghouse and will never play important minutes.

How's that working out for you?

[Mugen]

The appropriate response is "Congratulations, you just made a straw man argument."

That'll do.

[DMC]

So will lakers,celtics, and mavs tank on purpose when bonner is in the game so they can see more bonner in a playoff match up? That would be really ingenius by them.

Pretty sure the Spurs won't see the Celtics in the playoffs.

[TJastal]

Relax, you think garbage time is more important. That's fine for you.
Reading comprehension, 101. Already told you I'd consider the argument on some merit but you think hornets, nuggets & warriors are world beaters.. I don't. Next.


Yeah, the pattern is you have an agenda. You can't stop bitching even when the team is 25-3.
I'm not bitching in this thread. I have debunked the false assertion you made to Mugen and when you realized your facts weren't jiving you made up a new argument. Which is just what I expect from you. I even debunked that argument so now you got nothing left but to fling your feces in my direction.


Your original hypothesis was Splitter is in the doghouse and will never play important minutes.

More untruths. I don't recall making that hypothesis, my bigger concern is that Splitter get more minutes and rather steady minutes instead of this 20 minutes followed by two DNP's bullshit. I'm not even that concerned who the fucking teams are I would just prefer that he can get some kind of steady minutes/gig.[/QUOTE]

[EricD]

In November, Splitter had 9 games with double figure minutes. So far in December (ya, that's almost over) he's got only 3.

Apparently in the Chump's world, this is "playing more" LMAO

:rollin

:lol

Don't be surprised. He's too busy analyzing game tape from the Toros championship two years ago.

He really needs to get a clue about the NBA.

[tmtcsc]

That's right, because the Spurs are 15-0 when Bonner scores at least 6 points.

:lol Spurs are 25-3 when ANYONE on the roster scores 6 pts.

[ChumpDumper]

Reading comprehension, 101. Already told you I'd consider the argument on some merit but you think hornets, nuggets & warriors are world beaters.. I don't. Next.Hey, you're making up shit now!

Nice.

I said playoff teams, which two of the three teams happen to be.

Reading comprehension 101.



I'm not bitching in this thread. I have debunked the false assertion you made to Mugen and when you realized your facts weren't jiving you made up a new argument. Which is just what I expect from you. I even debunked that argument so now you got nothing left but to fling your feces in my direction.You are bitching and making things up.

You are now reduced to lying. It happens.


More untruths. I don't recall making that hypothesis, my bigger concern is that Splitter get more minutes and rather steady minutes instead of this 20 minutes followed by two DNP's bullshit. I'm not even that concerned who the fucking teams are I would just prefer that he can get some kind of steady minutes/gig.

How's that working out for you?Splitter's minutes are working out fine for me, and more importantly the Spurs.

25-3 while Splitter and Dice aren't being overused. My only real concern at the moment is overusing Manu. Turns out Udoka isn't as good as you said he would be either.

On the other hand, 25-3 pisses you off because every victory is proving you wrong. I'd be pissed too if I started with such a stupid agenda in the first place and felt I had to cling to it no matter how insane it made me look. Right now you are praying for the Spurs to lose when Splitter doesn't play so you can say "I told you so."

This is what you have been reduced to.

[TJastal]

15-0 when Bonner scores 6 points. Well la-dee-fucking-da.

This just underscores how useless a player he is when he's not hitting wide open triples.

[TJastal]

Hey, you're making up shit now!

Nice.

I said playoff teams, which two of the three teams happen to be.

Reading comprehension 101.

LOL @ u considering hornets a playoff team. I'll bet you they sink to mid-lottery level by the end of the year. Nuggets may not even clear #8. Calling them "playoff teams" is sketchy at best. But that's usually all you have supporting your paper thin arguments.



You are bitching and making things up.

You are now reduced to lying. It happens.

Splitter's minutes are working out fine for me, and more importantly the Spurs.
I'm not lying, I really don't consider the hornets a playoff team this year. Sorry you do. Next.


25-3 while Splitter and Dice aren't being overused. My only real concern at the moment is overusing Manu. Turns out Udoka isn't as good as you said he would be either.
I thought you just said Splitter was playing more and more? And now your glad he's not "overused"? Are you being purposefully obtuse? :lol


On the other hand, 25-3 pisses you off because every victory is proving you wrong. I'd be pissed too if I started with such a stupid agenda in the first place and felt I had to cling to it no matter how insane it made me look. Right now you are praying for the Spurs to lose when Splitter doesn't play so you can say "I told you so."

This is what you have been reduced to.

How did we get here from a simple argument concerning Splitter's minutes? First you changed your argument. Twice. When that didn't work you threw feces at me. Now you claim I have an agenda to make myself look good when the spurs lose. Never a dull day at spurstalk, I swear. :rollin

[MGWJ]

Splitter looks lost out there on the court. His mannerisms are akin to playing pickup basketball with someone you don't know. He doesn't seem ready to log significant minutes. The trouble with that is, he won't just suddenly acclimate to the offensive and defensive schemes via practice. Game time is the only real solution for him to learn. He does need more minutes, but progressively throughout the season. Can't really mess with a winning formula right now.

Best part about last night's game is the few minutes Duncan and Splitter logged together, they looked pretty decent.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL @ u considering hornets a playoff team. I'll bet you they sink to mid-lottery level by the end of the year. Nuggets may not even clear #8. Calling them "playoff teams" is sketchy at best. But that's usually all you have supporting your paper thin arguments.Seeing how your predictions have gone in the past, it's probably safe to continue calling them playoff teams.


I'm not lying, I really don't consider the hornets a playoff team this year. Sorry you do. Next.You consider Udoka a good addition to the Spurs. Sorry you do.



I thought you just said Splitter was playing more and more? And now your glad he's not "overused"? Are you being purposefully obtuse? :lolI said his playing time will continue to fluctuate for the reasons that have already been explained several times but you are too stupid to understand.



How did we get here from a simple argument concerning Splitter's minutes? First you changed your argument. Twice. When that didn't work you threw feces at me. Now you claim I have an agenda to make myself look good when the spurs lose. Never a dull day at spurstalk, I swear. :rollinI said he is playing more important minutes than the garbage time you were begging for and that his minutes will continue to fluctuate and that you will bitch about it because you have an agenda. The agenda will also make you preen about like a dandy fop when the Spurs next lose without playing Splitter.

I will be happy to be wrong about your happily posting "I told you so"s in that instance, but I don't think you will be able to help yourself. Feel free to prove me wrong when the time comes. I won't get upset about being wrong like you are now.

[DMC]

Splitter looks lost out there on the court. His mannerisms are akin to playing pickup basketball with someone you don't know. He doesn't seem ready to log significant minutes. The trouble with that is, he won't just suddenly acclimate to the offensive and defensive schemes via practice. Game time is the only real solution for him to learn. He does need more minutes, but progressively throughout the season. Can't really mess with a winning formula right now.

Best part about last night's game is the few minutes Duncan and Splitter logged together, they looked pretty decent.

How can both paragraphs be true? If Splitter looks lost out there, how can you say "they looked pretty decent".

[Cry Havoc]

Splitter looks lost out there on the court. His mannerisms are akin to playing pickup basketball with someone you don't know. He doesn't seem ready to log significant minutes. The trouble with that is, he won't just suddenly acclimate to the offensive and defensive schemes via practice. Game time is the only real solution for him to learn. He does need more minutes, but progressively throughout the season. Can't really mess with a winning formula right now.

Best part about last night's game is the few minutes Duncan and Splitter logged together, they looked pretty decent.

Here's what I don't get.

If Splitter is so lost on the court...

Why does he get SO MANY more rebounds than Bonner per minute?

Why does he get more steals per minute than Bonner?

Why does he take more charges?

Are we SO desperate for three point shooters with the 6 other guys we have now that can hit from deep that the offense will cave in if Bonner's not out there?

Most importantly:

Are we a better defensive team with Bonner or Splitter on the floor?

I say Splitter, and I say it's not even freaking close. That doesn't mean Bonner doesn't have some value to the team, he's a great shooter. But if he can't get rebounds on most nights to save his life, how can we possibly justify having him on the floor instead of Tiago? What other advantage does Bonner give us besides another player to shoot 3s?

[jjktkk]

When Pop apologizes again about not playing Splitter in the playoffs till we were down 3-1 to the Lakers, what will the appropriate response for a Pop apologist be?

So you already predict what will happen in the playoffs this year huh? Judging by your post, it sounds like you want the Spurs to lose, so you can jump on your soap box and rant and rave about what a bad coach Pop is.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Folks, this is not so cut and dried. Bonner and Splitter (and Blair and McDyess) all bring different things to the table. Bonner is truly a game changer with his deadly 3 point shooting and that is his value. When he gets the ball up top or on the wing, the defense has to react or he's going to drop 3s on them all night. That opens things up for other people.

He is a below average defender but he puts in the effort and works at it. He executes the basics of the Spurs defensive system pretty well. But his one-on-one post defense isn't so great. Athletic bigs can easily get a shot off against him. However he's not bad as a rebounder.

Zach Randolph is a pretty high bar when it comes to playing defense. He is a beast around the basket.

[BackHome]

This is what I said all along. Put a stronger big on him and push Splitter away from the basket and he is worthless. He won't matchup with LA or Dallas bigs and counting on him to bail the spurs frontline out against those teams is nothing more than wishful thinking.


Keep that wisfhul thinking thyme going and tell us who should be getting his minutes and who will help us beat LA and Dallas...Bonner/Blair?

[TJastal]

Seeing how your predictions have gone in the past, it's probably safe to continue calling them playoff teams.
It's probably also safe to say you haven't seen a hornets game recently.


You consider Udoka a good addition to the Spurs. Sorry you do.
Another classic strawman from the 'dumper. Too bad your straw is dry and I'm packin' some heat today.


I said his playing time will continue to fluctuate for the reasons that have already been explained several times but you are too stupid to understand.
Believe it or not, some people might actually take the stance argument that fluctuating minutes makes it tougher for a player to get his game in sync, and his body in shape. I might argue that Pop is putting him at more risk of injury with this type of regimen. Put that in your crabby pipe and smoke it.


I said he is playing more important minutes than the garbage time you were begging for and that his minutes will continue to fluctuate and that you will bitch about it because you have an agenda. The agenda will also make you preen about like a dandy fop when the Spurs next lose without playing Splitter.

Poor Chump. All you got left to cling to now is your quack theory that Splitter is suddenly getting "important" minutes. Well I hate to debunk yet another one but just looking at December, spurs have played 3 decent playoff bound teams in ATL, MIL, & PORT (4 if you count Denver, and no were not going to call NOH a playoff team lol) and Splitter got 1,4,4,21 minutes in those games. Debunked again. You really need to make this at least challenging for me.


I will be happy to be wrong about your happily posting "I told you so"s in that instance, but I don't think you will be able to help yourself. Feel free to prove me wrong when the time comes. I won't get upset about being wrong like you are now.
LOL like I said never a dull day. Even though it's you who has been sidestepping all my attempts at cornering you, I'm apparently upset or something now because of my wrongness. :lol

[BackHome]

Man the Spurs have the best record in the leauge and we still bitch at each other...Gotta love the human race...lol

[ChumpDumper]

It's probably also safe to say you haven't seen a hornets game recently.Sure. Slumps happen. You are predicting a late season loss for each game the Spurs don't play Splitter enough. At that rate, they won't be a playoff team either.



Another classic strawman from the 'dumper. Too bad your straw is dry and I'm packin' some heat today.No, it's another example of your rather hilariously flawed thinking. You should look up the definition of straw man, btw. You're wrong about that as well.


Believe it or not, some people might actually take the stance argument that fluctuating minutes makes it tougher for a player to get his game in sync, and his body in shape. I might argue that Pop is putting him at more risk of injury with this type of regimen. Put that in your crabby pipe and smoke it.Some people?

Who?

People on message boards who think Udoka is a good addition and garbage time is more valuable that rotation time?


Poor Chump. All you got left to cling to now is your quack theory that Splitter is suddenly getting "important" minutes.He played important minutes last night.

That is no theory.

Are you saying he didn't play important minutes last night?

Yes or no.

Your theory is he never plays important minutes and never will. You are wrong and upset about it.

[polandprzem]

What other advantage does Bonner give us besides another player to shoot 3s?

He is a 'big' shooting a three and that's quite a difference

[ChumpDumper]

He is a 'big' shooting a three and that's quite a differenceLies!

[polandprzem]

Nies!


It should be NICE

[Mugen]

So you already predict what will happen in the playoffs this year huh? Judging by your post, it sounds like you want the Spurs to lose, so you can jump on your soap box and rant and rave about what a bad coach Pop is.


Umm no, i dont want the spurs to lose.

I'd love to be wrong and actually have Pop give him meaningful mins when it actually counts (Playoffs), but going by Pop's recent history (George, Oberto)...first year players won't get much of a shot.

Pop is a great coach but his biggest weakness has always been trust in younger players.

I'm not ready to blow my load just because Pop gives Tiago 20 mins and he actually produces like many of us expect him to. Because I know when the games really matter, Bonner is going to be the one in at crunch time defending the Gasols and Nowitzkis.

[TJastal]

Sure. Slumps happen. You are predicting a late season loss for each game the Spurs don't play Splitter enough. At that rate, they won't be a playoff team either.
Don't honstly remember the tongue in cheek comment that I made. I believe it was every DNP. Don't really feel like wasting 10 minutes of my life digging it up, either.


People on message boards who think Udoka is a good addition and garbage time is more valuable that rotation time?
Who fucking cares, I always maintained Udoka was a stop gap till Anderson came back. You act like I hyped him up as the next Bruce Bowen, which is patently false. I still say there could be a use for him in a situation that calls for some "extracurricular activity", however.


He played important minutes last night.

That is no theory.

Are you saying he didn't play important minutes last night?

Yes or no.

Your theory is he never plays important minutes and never will. You are wrong and upset about it.

One game against a team that will be scratching and clawing for a bottom seed without their top player. Damn it doesn't get any more important than that I tell ya...:lol And speaking of all these important minutes, might I say that's just what a guy who is learning the ropes of the nba needs in order to become a more importanter player. /sarcasm off

[jjktkk]

Because I know when the games really matter, Bonner is going to be the one in at crunch time defending the Gasols and Nowitzkis.

Are you making shit up, because your still pissed that Pop didn't play Hill in the playoffs two years ago? Because I've never seen Bonner guarding Gasol in crunchtime of a game. And in last years playoffs against Dallas, McDyess was the one guarding Dirk in crunchtime.

[TVI]

What other advantage does Bonner give us besides another player to shoot 3s?
The advantage of a player who makes those 3s at a 52.4% clip? :p:

Seriously—Splitter seems to be okay with it, he's getting a lot of instruction from the coaching staff, the wins are piling up, and I think Pop's doing the right thing by bringing him along slowly. The dude had a busy summer, and he's just not ready for big time minutes yet. When he is, he'll get them. The nice thing is, the Spurs have options, and small ball or "the big 4 who spreads the floor" are working right now (most of the time).

Have a little faith. Pop didn't just fall off the turnip truck—he knows what he's doing. Splitter will earn more burn if he keeps producing like he did last night, and the staff is comfortable that he knows what to do on the floor.

I liken this as the anti-RJ situation. RJ wasn't ready to step into a big role last year, and it showed. This year, he knows what his role is, and he's fitting in so much better.

Patience.

[Mugen]

Are you making shit up, because your still pissed that Pop didn't play Hill in the playoffs two years ago? Because I've never seen Bonner guarding Gasol in crunchtime of a game. And in last years playoffs against Dallas, McDyess was the one guarding Dirk in crunchtime.

lol i didnt see your avatar. I shoulda known.

Dice did a great job on Dirk last year but dirk still put up numbers and i dont think Dice has the length to both Gasol in the post.

But Tiago will be key in neutralizing the Lakers' length.

I just fear that Pop will go with the big rotation of TD, Dice, and Bonner.

[JustinJDW]

Yeah, people seem to think we have a big problem and are in the middle of some type of crisis, but really, we are in a fantastic position. We are 25-3, almost everyone is playing good ball, including benchwarmers like Quinn, are offense is clicking on all cyclinders, Splitter is coming a long slowly, Duncan and Dice's minutes are being well managed, and we got Hill and Anderson coming back soon to get us some serious depth.

Don't know what the hell people are panicking about. Splitter will get his minutes, and he will come a long slowly, just like Pop said, but Bonner's minutes shouldn't be affected. Bonner is just the scapegoat for all you people, when in reality, he is a very valuable player to our system. Best 3-point shooter on our team, and like someone else said, can be literally a game changer at times. I love Bonner. He provides offense when we are going through a slump, like late in the 3rd quarter last night when we couldn't make shit. Pop put in Bonner to help in the 4th, and the next thing you know, we spread the floor and start knocking down 3's.

The reality here is that most coaches would love to have the bigs and specialized talents that the Spurs and the Spurs Bigs have. Bonner for 3-point shooting and spreading the floor, Blair for toughness and rebounding, and Splitter for defense and poise. Then we got Dice and Timmy who pretty much have all those talents of rebounding, defense and mid-range jumpers.

Don't worry about minutes, because Pop is one of the best coaches ever, and he know what the hell he is doing with his players. We are just criticizing everything and anything that is different or can be criticized, because we are all slightly insecure and scared to loose to the Lakers to the Playoffs. And that's fine, because that's what fans do, but you guys gotta control yourself. Spurs are playing great right now.

Enjoy the show. :toast But here are my minutes, until the Playoffs start, then it changes.

Duncan - 28
Splitter - 20
Dice - 20
Bonner - 14
Blair - 14

[smrattler]

Against most teams, we can get away with Blair starting and he can be effective too sometimes.

But to win the title, we need more than one guy capable of protecting the rim.

[jjktkk]

lol i didnt see your avatar. I shoulda known.


The avatar is a joke. I know Bonner is a liability defensively, and Pop has a tendency to overuse Bonner.


Dice did a great job on Dirk last year but dirk still put up numbers and i dont think Dice has the length to both Gasol in the post. But Tiago will be key in neutralizing the Lakers' length.


Dirk puts up numbers against anyone. And Gasol's length bothers Duncan and will bother Splitter as well.




I just fear that Pop will go with the big rotation of TD, Dice, and Bonner.

Your fears are justified, because all three will play ahead of Splitter. The hope is that Splitter will be able to play and be effective against the Lakers frontline. But McDyess, and to a lesser degree, Bonner, will have to play well for the Spurs to beat the Lakers. Would you agree that even if Splitter evolves into a solid rotation player this year, the Laker's frontline would still be considered better than the Spurs frontline?

[Mugen]

Your fears are justified, because all three will play ahead of Splitter. The hope is that Splitter will be able to play and be effective against the Lakers frontline. But McDyess, and to a lesser degree, Bonner, will have to play well for the Spurs to beat the Lakers. Would you agree that even if Splitter evolves into a solid rotation player this year, the Laker's frontline would still be considered better than the Spurs frontline?

Yes the Lakers frontline' would still be better. But the presence of Splitter goes a long way in negating the length/rebounding advantage that the Lakers have.

IMO, Bonner should see very limited mins. if these teams are to meet up. Phil is not an idiot and is gonna make sure to chase Bonner off the 3 or maybe even dare Bonner to beat them. And I have ZERO faith in Matt Bonner to make them.

Presently constructed, i think this team has a chance to win an NBA title. I just hope Pop isn't too stubborn to destroy that chance.

[Frenzy]

Chump and jtas......the fight is out there!!

[DesignatedT]

IMO, Bonner should see very limited mins. if these teams are to meet up. Phil is not an idiot and is gonna make sure to chase Bonner off the 3 or maybe even dare Bonner to beat them. And I have ZERO faith in Matt Bonner to make them.



Pretty much. Until he can show he can hit in the playoffs than I would rather he not get huge minutes in the post-season. Saying that, if we were guaranteed this Bonner in the playoffs than I wouldn't be against him playing at all, he is a big part of this record we have right now and people fail or refuse to acknowledge that fact. He has consistently been our 2nd best big man so far this season and is far from terrible as some here claim. Again though, it all goes back to his past performances in the playoffs and I can't blame anyone for taking that into consideration.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't honstly remember the tongue in cheek comment that I made. I believe it was every DNP. Don't really feel like wasting 10 minutes of my life digging it up, either.Ah, the old "it was just jokes" defense. :lol

You use that a lot.



Who fucking cares, I always maintained Udoka was a stop gap till Anderson came back. You act like I hyped him up as the next Bruce Bowen, which is patently false.You hyped him up to be an NBA player, which is bad enough.


One game against a team that will be scratching and clawing for a bottom seed without their top player. Damn it doesn't get any more important than that I tell ya...:lol And speaking of all these important minutes, might I say that's just what a guy who is learning the ropes of the nba needs in order to become a more importanter player. /sarcasm offSo you concede they were important minutes.

All you had to say was yes.

[Mugen]

:lmao

[yavozerb]

Except for one 7/7 game in Oklahoma, Bonner's been horrible shooting threes on the road. He should only play in the playoffs at home where he shoots over 50% from downtown. I don't recall him ever making a three in the Staples Center, against either team. He missed so many easy threes against the Clippers in our ghastly 85-90 loss there that I wanted to shoot myself.

Wow, just stfu already and please quit posting...You have no idea what you are talking about and I cannot wait until school starts back up so you get out of here..

[EricD]

Bump..


Yeah what now??

Who was right all along??!!

More Splitter!!

[rayray2k8]

If and when Splitter plays more it won't be at the expense of Bonner, but Dyess or Blair.

Dude called it.

[TJastal]

Last game

Bonner: 20 minutes
Splitter: 15 minutes

Pop still doesn't get it.

[EricD]

Been over a year already!


Awktalk, Rascal, and a few other clueless soul's eat some crow!

MORE SPLITTER!

Some Pop-riders really need to get a clue.

[WeNeedLength]

Ahhh yes another Bonner sucks thread. We all know he sucks and he shouldn't play the minutes he does, but give it a rest already.

You know this thread is over a year old right? :lol

[EricD]

You know this thread is over a year old right? :lol

His handle is Chato.

What do you expect?

Half the people here don't have a clue, including him and others who ride Pop's jock.

[TJastal]

Funny to revisit all the popsucking and excuses that were being used for Pop's failure to integrate Splitter into the rotation properly while the team was 25-3 last year. Chumpdumper's birdbrained comments are pretty good, especially. Seeing how happy he was about 25-3 and not "overusing" Splitter. LMAO good times.

As for my prediction the team would lose as many games as Splitter DNP's, well didn't quite nail that one (Splitter 22 DNP's, 21 total losses). Missed by 1. Damn.

[jjktkk]

Funny to revisit all the popsucking and excuses that were being used for Pop's failure to integrate Splitter into the rotation properly while the team was 25-3 last year. Chumpdumper's birdbrained comments are pretty good, especially. Seeing how happy he was about 25-3 and not "overusing" Splitter. LMAO good times.

As for my prediction the team would lose as many games as Splitter DNP's, well didn't quite nail that one (Splitter 22 DNP's, 21 total losses). Missed by 1. Damn.

Its funny seeing another thread where you get shit on as well.

[ChumpDumper]

This is great.

I was right about NOLA and Denver's being playoff teams.

I was right about Manu's overuse being the main problem.

I was always right about Splitter's being injury prone. That's just a matter of history, like Manu.

Splitter would have been fine had he simply gotten more minutes against Memphis. It's not like I didn't want that.

[silverblk mystix]

This is great.

I was right about NOLA and Denver's being playoff teams.

I was right about Manu's overuse being the main problem.

I was always right about Splitter's being injury prone. That's just a matter of history, like Manu.

Splitter would have been fine had he simply gotten more minutes against Memphis. It's not like I didn't want that.

Chump...you are really stupid and now you are trying to save face.
Be a man.
Admit how you rode Pop's dick and approved of how he was using Splitter. Now that you saw what Pop cost the team...you suddenly change your fuckin' tune.

Be a man. You look very stupid either way but at least be a man and admit it.

If the Spurs had won the title last season with small ball and bonner ball and pop had just nailed splitter to the bench the whole way...then I would have eaten shit and actually praised Pop and admitted that I don't know shit about bball and I would worship at the church of pop happily.

But it did not happen and you are now trying to save face.

Stupid ass.

[EricD]

I don't understand why some of you listen to Chump.

You guys should understand that he spends 100's of hours a week watching the irrelevant JV D-League, not the NBA!

He's like ST's Chris Sheridan of the D-League. Why does everyone care what he thinks about the league (NBA) that he never watches?

He's too busy rubbing one out to players who will likely never suit up for an NBA team on a weekly basis.

Get a clue guys, Chump's black-bold is fools gold.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't understand why some of you listen to Chump.

You guys should understand that he spends 100's of hours a week watching the irrelevant JV D-League, not the NBA!

He's like ST's Chris Sheridan of the D-League. Why does everyone care what he thinks about the league (NBA) that he never watches?

He's too busy rubbing one out to players who will likely never suit up for an NBA team on a weekly basis.

Get a clue guys, Chump's black-bold is fools gold.Good post. I liked it the first ten times you tried it. I don't know why anyone cares so much about what anyone thinks here tbh. I'm not asking you to like me or even read my posts.

You might want to review the percentage of your posts you have dedicated to me.

I'm sure the next one will be fresh and original! :tu

[EricD]

Good post. I liked it the first ten times you tried it. I don't know why anyone cares so much about what anyone thinks here tbh. I'm not asking you to like me or even read my posts.

You might want to review the percentage of your posts you have dedicated to me.

I'm sure the next one will be fresh and original! :tu

You really don't have a clue Toro.

You might want to review the percentage of your posts being a trolling Popologist Poppycock rider tbh..

Even about topics that are blatantly obvious on what the team needs.

Get a clue.

[ChumpDumper]

You really don't have a clue Toro.

You might want to review the percentage of your posts being a trolling Popologist Poppycock rider tbh..

Even about topics that are blatantly obvious on what the team needs.

Get a clue.I reviewed it.

It's really not what you think.

Thanks for caring so much about me though.

Say something about the Toros again!

[silverblk mystix]

lol minor league quasi-expert....

[ChumpDumper]

lol minor league quasi-expert....When did I say I was an expert?

Link please.

lol butthurt fan club

[therealtruth]

Funny to revisit all the popsucking and excuses that were being used for Pop's failure to integrate Splitter into the rotation properly while the team was 25-3 last year. Chumpdumper's birdbrained comments are pretty good, especially. Seeing how happy he was about 25-3 and not "overusing" Splitter. LMAO good times.

As for my prediction the team would lose as many games as Splitter DNP's, well didn't quite nail that one (Splitter 22 DNP's, 21 total losses). Missed by 1. Damn.

I'm sure if Splitter had gotten more burn last year the last game wouldn't have been his first 20 and 10 game. Pop retardedly held back his development to the hurt of the team. Bonner does not have that upside. 20 and 10 will win a playoff series for you like Zach Randolph showed not a streaky three point shooter who shrinks from the moment.

[jwmann2]

I'm a firm believer that the guy that does the best in practice may not always do the best in games. That's how most coaches decide who to play but its all about how you matchup with the opposing players the night of. Then again, there are a lot of NBA players that can matchup with anyone, Kobe, Lebron, Timmy, Nash.

[TJastal]

This is great.

I was right about NOLA and Denver's being playoff teams.

I was right about Manu's overuse being the main problem.

I was always right about Splitter's being injury prone. That's just a matter of history, like Manu.

Splitter would have been fine had he simply gotten more minutes against Memphis. It's not like I didn't want that.

Well congrats, smart guy, you won the bonus prizes. Too bad you completely whiffed on the grand prize. Funny how you claimed back in December that Splitter was getting more minutes then patted yourself on the back about how you predicted it would happen. When it was proven that it wasn't even true, course then you changed your argument to "Well, he's playing more minutes against playoff teams!". Which turned out to be a a grand total of 18 minutes against the hornets and 21 vs the nuggets. And in fact in the two weeks prior against the same two teams he got just 11 minutes & a fat DNP. But that didn't matter apparently. Course then you bragged about how Pop was going to play Splitter more and more minutes as the season went along. And guess what, you ended up being wrong again. With the exception of March, he logged fewer minutes in every month compared to how he started the season.

Nov 10.6 min / gm, 2 DNP
Dec 8.2 min / gm, 3 DNP
Jan 8.0 min / gm, 4 DNP
Feb 6.0 min / gm, 7 DNP
Mar 12.75 min / gm, 3 DNP
Apr 9.6 min / gm, 4 DNP

But go ahead by all means keep rejoicing over your consolation prizes. I wouldn't want you to feel completely stupid or anything.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not like I wanted him to play less. Sorry you can't see that.

[EricD]

In the past 5 games this man has averaged 15 and 8 in 25 minutes of play.

As persistent as I was a year ago, we need more SPLITTER!!

Some of you blockheads had no clue a year ago, while smart, intelligent, yet underrated grey-men like myself, were screaming for more Splitter!!

Let's keep it going fellas.

[EricD]

It's not like I wanted him to play less. Sorry you can't see that.

Are you talking about a Toro? Or an actual NBA player for the first time?