Would you like the NBA to go back to the pre-zone D era?

[lefty]

I fucking hate the zone defense in the NBA

When it was introduced, some people thought it would force players to share the ball more
Of course, they were wrong (cough*Kobe*cough)


It does extend 3 pt specialist's careers though - white unathletic white boys like Steve Kerr :D

However, there is too much jump-shooting for my taste, and I think the implementation of zone D has also led to more overrated players who pad their stats thanks to wide open looks


Your thoughts ?

[Phillip]

when used at the right times, zone defense can be extremely effective at messing up a team's rhythm. I don't see what the issue is. Teams that struggle against it need to learn how to attack it better. Teams that struggle when employing it should use it less or learn how to run it more effectively.

Man D has its advantages and disadvantages just like zone does. You complain about players that pad their stats with open jumpers against the zone and thus you dub them as overrated, but you can also say that players pad their stats against man defense by simply being superior to their defender athletically, like Tony Parker, who can drive past pretty much anyone in a man defense, but when he is relied upon to break down zone defenses with his shot, he struggles. So I guess you could say that Parker is extremely overrated to, because he is a one trick pony on offense. :rolleyes

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Shaq rule

[lefty]

when used at the right times, zone defense can be extremely effective at messing up a team's rhythm. I don't see what the issue is. Teams that struggle against it need to learn how to attack it better. Teams that struggle when employing it should use it less or learn how to run it more effectively.

Man D has its advantages and disadvantages just like zone does. You complain about players that pad their stats with open jumpers against the zone and thus you dub them as overrated, but you can also say that players pad their stats against man defense by simply being superior to their defender athletically, like Tony Parker, who can drive past pretty much anyone in a man defense, but when he is relied upon to break down zone defenses with his shot, he struggles. So I guess you could say that Parker is extremely overrated to, because he is a one trick pony on offense. :rolleyes

Well, I'm a notorious Parker hater

[sefant77]

Its funny because its exposing all the "stars" with lack of understanding the game and general bb iq.

It was almost sad to see Westbrook in the 2nd half against the zone the other night...

[Phillip]

i dont get why players cant just develop a consistent mid-range jumper. while i think that 80s basketball is extremely overrated, one aspect i really liked was that almost everyone was at least capable of hitting open midrange jumpers consistently. i dont get what's so hard about midrange jumpers.

[coyotes_geek]

i dont get why players cant just develop a consistent mid-range jumper. while i think that 80s basketball is extremely overrated, one aspect i really liked was that almost everyone was at least capable of hitting open midrange jumpers consistently. i dont get what's so hard about midrange jumpers.

The athletes who are good enough to make it into the nba would rather dunk or shoot 3's. Dunks are sexy and 3's get you extra points. They don't start working on a midrange game until they get to the NBA.

[lefty]

i dont get why players cant just develop a consistent mid-range jumper. while i think that 80s basketball is extremely overrated, one aspect i really liked was that almost everyone was at least capable of hitting open midrange jumpers consistently. i dont get what's so hard about midrange jumpers.
I agree
Even a PF like Chambers was hitting long 2's consistently

Some people "blame" Michael Jordan; they say that he made the game look so easy that young players have tried to emulate his jump-shot without really working on it
The other reason is the fact that Jordan was so popular with his spectacular aerial assaults that the younger generation focused on style rather than substance

[Veterinarian]

I fucking hate the zone defense in the NBA

When it was introduced, some people thought it would force players to share the ball more
Of course, they were wrong (cough*Kobe*cough)


It does extend 3 pt specialist's careers though - white unathletic white boys like Steve Kerr :D

However, there is too much jump-shooting for my taste, and I think the implementation of zone D has also led to more overrated players who pad their stats thanks to wide open looks


Your thoughts ?

I think you should stop posting.

[Darrin]

I fucking hate the zone defense in the NBA

When it was introduced, some people thought it would force players to share the ball more
Of course, they were wrong (cough*Kobe*cough)


It does extend 3 pt specialist's careers though - white unathletic white boys like Steve Kerr :D

However, there is too much jump-shooting for my taste, and I think the implementation of zone D has also led to more overrated players who pad their stats thanks to wide open looks


Your thoughts ?

I hate the "impeding progress" and hand-check rule. If we had those two, we could play defense again.

[Phillip]

I hate the "impeding progress" and hand-check rule. If we had those two, we could play defense again.

It would be impossible to score if those rules came into effect considering how much better defense is in the NBA today as opposed to the 80's. Putting those rules in made people have to legitimately STICK to their opponents, using smarts and footwork, as opposed to just grabbing them or slamming them to the ground after they drive into the lane completely undefended like they did in the 80s with no foul call, and call that "good defense".

The rule changes made people learn how to truly play defense.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think you should stop posting.

[Phillip]

I agree
Even a PF like Chambers was hitting long 2's consistently

Some people "blame" Michael Jordan; they say that he made the game look so easy that young players have tried to emulate his jump-shot without really working on it
The other reason is the fact that Jordan was so popular with his spectacular aerial assaults that the younger generation focused on style rather than substance

Yup, a lot of people didnt realize just how much work he put in, how devoted he was to being the best basketball player he could be, by working non-stop on every aspect of his game. His dunks and crazy layups werent what made him great. What made him great was his completely unpredictable nature due to his ridiculous assortment of skills that he took massive amounts of time to develop.

[Giuseppe]

I think you should stop posting.

At least, unlike you, he doesn't pm me trying to date.

You sob, you.

[bulakenyo]

Not allowing zone D is like kinda like boxing, not allowing uppercuts.

It's a good tool to use when the time is right, why not allow it?

[DJ Mbenga]

did you like watching game 7 of the nba finals? every game would be like that without a zone and hand checking back.

[lefty]

did you like watching game 7 of the nba finals? every game would be like that without a zone and hand checking back.
Believe it or not, I had more fun watching the 1994 Finals :lol

That's right; not a high scoring affaire, but great D and great intensity

[DJ Mbenga]

Believe it or not, I had more fun watching the 1994 Finals :lol

That's right; not a high scoring affaire, but great D and great intensity

unfortunately you aren't like the rest of nba fans. theyll stick with this offense even if it means making big guys obselete. the nba has the youngest fan base of all sports.

[lefty]

unfortunately you aren't like the rest of nba fans. theyll stick with this offense even if it means making big guys obselete. the nba has the youngest fan base of all sports.
I 100% agree

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against good offensive BB

Those highlight plays from MJ, Magic, Isiah, Bird, Wilkins are what made me an NBA fan, but I don't like how players can get easy looks nowadays.
Back then, they had to work hard to get those looks

[JamStone]

Don't see a problem with the zone staying in the league because teams should be able to beat it easily. It's not even used that much except by teams with completely clueless players who are horrible individual defenders. And you don't need great outside shooting to beat a zone. You just need patience, good movement with and without the basketball, and good passing. Sooner or later a zone will breakdown if you make it react to good ball movement. Problem is there are too many players and teams that aren't patient enough or skilled enough to break a zone other than by jacking up jumpshots. You can even beat a zone with dribble penetration. But players just get content to jacking 25 footers against a zone. Don't need to regulate the zone out of the league. Teams should just do a better job breaking zones and its use will die out or at the very least be reduced to a seldom used gimmick defense to give an offense that is clicking a different look.

Zone is for pussies anyway.

[ezau]

I like the implementation of the zone defense. It gives unathletic players the chance to survive in the league by making use of their smarts instead of their physical abilities. The Zone also forces freakishly athletic players to learn the game and understand its intricacies.