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LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 07:06 AM
Mavs are 24-5 with him and 2-5 without him.
Gotta be Dirk. I don't see anyone else winning it. Lebron and Wade have great numbers and the Heat have an excellent winning record but we all know neither is going to win it. Kobe's toasted, Duncan winning it is going to be a joke. Dwight doesn't score enough and the Knicks would need at least 55+ wins for Amar'e to have a serious case.
Congrats to the Diggler on his 2nd MVP.
rayjayjohnson
01-09-2011, 07:13 AM
lol @ premature dirkulation.
All going 2 and 5 without him proves is how one dimensional they are.
BanditHiro
01-09-2011, 07:56 AM
LeBron James should be the MVP tbh
Cavs with Lebron: 61-21
Cavs without Lebron: 8-28
Technique
01-09-2011, 08:01 AM
Amar'e without a doubt. He turned the worst franchise of the decade around in one year and the future is only getting brighter. Dude is a beast.
Putting up career high numbers and emerged as the best power forward in the league.
21_Blessings
01-09-2011, 08:19 AM
Congrats to the Diggler on his 2nd MVP.
Congrats to the Diggalo on another 1st round exit.
rayjayjohnson
01-09-2011, 08:33 AM
Congrats to the Diggalo on another 1st round exit.
This.
I-Ball
01-09-2011, 08:34 AM
far to early for a final statement.
i agree that dirk is a worthy candidate so far.
among a few others (amare, dwight howard and especially d.rose)
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 09:28 AM
Dwight is a DPOY not an MVP caliber player. He has far too many holes in the offensive end to win it. Voters are number crunchers, and Dwights 21 PPg is not going to cut it. Every MVP winner for the past 20 years has at least averaged above 25 PPG minus Steve Nash who won because of his great offensive production.
I want Lebron to win, and to be frank he should win it but the voters are have soured on him after his two bitter losses. If Wade can keep his scoring average of 30+ then I can see him taking the MVP but the law of average will kick in and he'll settle at 25-26ish to cap off the regular season.
Amar's is a Top 3 candidate but the Knicks needs a massive amount of win differential to get it, we're talking about 30 and above + wins. TBH, I can see the Knicks finishing at 51-52 wins, so its simply not enough to win it over other players with stronger cases.
Rose has a case, but he's Top 5 at best. If CP3 didnt win it in 2008 despite having one of the best statistical season ever as a PG (Yes better than Magic Johnson & Stockton's prime) then we can be safe to assume Rose entering his only third year is not going to win it.
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 09:34 AM
lol @ premature dirkulation.
All going 2 and 5 without him proves is how one dimensional they are.
You just supported Dirk's case for MVP.
rickross
01-09-2011, 09:50 AM
cavs wit bron = top 4 team in nba, b2b homecourt.
cavs without bron = worst team in nba.
What kinda cuckolds are u people to not understand such an easy thang?
Bron mvp by a mile.
I-Ball
01-09-2011, 10:23 AM
cavs wit bron = top 4 team in nba, b2b homecourt.
cavs without bron = worst team in nba.
What kinda cuckolds are u people to not understand such an easy thang?
Bron mvp by a mile.
it is not that simple.
the cavs also lost o'neal and ilgauskas (together with Delonte West, Sebastian Telfair, Danny Green). both were old, but still big bodies to protect the paint.
in a conference with garnett, stoudemire, bosh and howard their loss hurts noticeably.
combine this with the loss of their main scorer and (only) creator in lebron james and you have a team like the cavs. a flawed, depleted and sub-standard roster, who struggles to win a game.
Venti Quattro
01-09-2011, 10:24 AM
The Durant for MVP bandwagon has experienced a major setback because of Russell Westbrook.
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 10:32 AM
I never bought the Durant hype. Obviously another great scorer, but I find his game lacking to be considered a MVP. I said this last year but most people just shrugged and ignored it. I thought Russel WB was far more damaging in that Lakers series than Durant last season.
rayjayjohnson
01-09-2011, 10:41 AM
You just supported Dirk's case for MVP.
The warriors would win about 3 games without monta Ellis. Does that make him MVP?
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 10:56 AM
The Warriors are a lottery team with or without Monta Ellis. That's just stupid rarayjohnson. Come on man.
Roddy Beaubois
01-09-2011, 11:34 AM
Marc Stein and Bill Simmons agree tbqh
Darthkiller
01-09-2011, 12:04 PM
amare mvp. without him = laughing stock of the nba. with him legit playoff team
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 12:07 PM
By legit you mean a first round exit right?
greyforest
01-09-2011, 12:36 PM
i would actually not be pissed if dirk won mvp
Giuseppe
01-09-2011, 12:41 PM
i would actually not be pissed if dirk won mvp
I'd be thrilled if Kor I. won it.
JamStone
01-09-2011, 01:51 PM
Right now, I'd say it's:
1. Dwight
2. Dirk
3. Amare
Dwight has shown some really good improvement this year offensively. And the win streak they've had since the trade really emphasizes that the success of the Magic is all about him. Both KG and Duncan won MVPs in seasons where they didn't average 25 points. That is not a requirement.
Dirk has been amazing, especially his scoring efficiency for a non-dunker. But like last season, his rebounding has become more average. Chandler perhaps takes some of those rebounds and Dirk doesn't crash the offensive boards much at all. But he's certainly back in the MVP conversation this season. He's been a stud in the fourth quarter too.
Amare deserves a lot of credit. A lot of people didn't think he'd make this kind of impact with the Knicks. And he's playing a little defense as well, blocking shots. The Knicks are on pace for about 50 wins. And while it's true that that's normally not enough for an MVP candidate, let's also remember that they're coming off a season where they only won 29 games. Amare is already in the MVP discussion. And how the Knicks play the rest of the way can make him a more justifiable candidate.
midnightpulp
01-09-2011, 01:54 PM
Dirk. I can't buy Howard as a true MVP candidate until he develops some playmaking abilities. He's still very weak passing out of double teams.
If anyone on the Heat were to win MVP it's Wade, imho. However, it won't be anyone on the Heat because there's to many individuals who deserve it more. Nobody has mentioned Rose and he has been beasting.
I-Ball
01-09-2011, 02:02 PM
If anyone on the Heat were to win MVP it's Wade, imho. However, it won't be anyone on the Heat because there's to many individuals who deserve it more. Nobody has mentioned Rose and he has been beasting.
:nope
far to early for a final statement.
i agree that dirk is a worthy candidate so far.
among a few others (amare, dwight howard and especially d.rose)
edit:
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Rose has a case, but he's Top 5 at best. If CP3 didnt win it in 2008 despite having one of the best statistical season ever as a PG (Yes better than Magic Johnson & Stockton's prime) then we can be safe to assume Rose entering his only third year is not going to win it.
Rummpd
01-09-2011, 02:21 PM
Dirk should win, but will not - it will be Amare due to the fact he plays for NY
Fpoonsie
01-09-2011, 02:30 PM
Dirk should win, but will not - it will be Amare due to the fact he plays for NY
If Amar''''''e wins it, it won't be because he's in NY.
JamStone
01-09-2011, 02:32 PM
Dirk should win, but will not - it will be Amare due to the fact he plays for NY
Because great players who play in New York traditionally have won the MVP over more deserving players?
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 03:01 PM
To those saying Dwight is # 1, I strongly disagree. I would say Orlando's impressive winning streak was more due to the recent addition of Hedo Turkoglu who appears to be back to his own productive ways, Jason Richardson who has been a much effective player than Vince Carter and most notably the steady play of Brandon Bass. Even when Dwight struggled, Bass was the reason the Magic were able to pull a victory against the Celtics on Christmas Day.
Again, Amar'e has explosive numbers, that much is true, but I dont know if the Knicks will continue to win at this pace to give him enough 1st place votes to win the MVP. Their record has been surprising but they have fallen when paired against quality EC teams (Miami, Orlando, Boston). IMO, an MVP caliber player needs to cme up big against quality opponents in the regular season. The Knicks have only 2 impressive victories, one against the Spurs and the other against the Bulls earlier this season, but Amar'e struggled in that game, the win was more because of the surprising play of Toney Douglas and the usual contribution from Danilo Gallinari.
The MVP is for Dirk's to lose. The only thing againts him is time. He needs to get back on the court ASAP and help push the Mavs to another winning streak.
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 03:05 PM
The Top 5 right now IMO
Dirk
Wade
Rose
Lebron
Dwight
lmbebo
01-09-2011, 04:05 PM
Its Dirk's MVP. Look how the mavs are struggling without him.
(see logic from Nash's 1st MVP with the Suns. They did so poorly without him when he was out. Never mind that had no healthy point guard at that time...)
tdunk21
01-09-2011, 04:16 PM
cavs wit bron = top 4 team in nba, b2b homecourt.
cavs without bron = worst team in nba.
What kinda cuckolds are u people to not understand such an easy thang?
Bron mvp by a mile.
shut ur fat ass..
lefty
01-09-2011, 04:19 PM
Rose is the MVP so far
rickross
01-09-2011, 04:37 PM
shut ur fat ass..
son, for da dumb faggot u are u do make an effort to prove you incapacity towards da finer aspects of the rationale such as actually expressing a point of view.
Well i guess not takin it in el culo from yo papi makes u nervous :lol gtfo nigga.
Dwight WILL NEVER be the mvp by playing like he played against boston. You can never be the mvp by being such dumb. He has improved his post game but his passing and his judgement are horrible.
Dirk is too one dimesional to be the mvp. Just cause the mavs are build around him and are one dimensional as a style (just like him) just exposes their (historic) flaw. Dirks soft d and weak rebounding are well hidden in da mavs system but they still exists for anyone not blinded to not see dem.
Rose is playing great but his defense is suspect. I know u niggas gon jump on my dick how he must leave his man in thib's system but same shit happened in da olympics and im not buyin it. Plus that 40 percent from downtown is bound to lower and defenses are gonna heavily pack the paint against him. Furthermore his style of play will inflict injuries that will cut his pt.
Bron/wade. When did bron score 30 and when did wade. Plus if u *watch* da games u'll see bron defense >> wades. Remember ray allen dwade? Yeah u gotta fight through da screens. Yeah u gotta mark your man not go 4 da steal. Defense alone make da difference. Plus bron can PACE a game, a thang dat dwade never could.
Amare mvp. Lmao sons. Mvp of what? a team that will finish wit 0.600. Give me a break. A playa dat dont rebound (look him "fight" for position lol)
Kobe should suck a dick ima not waste my writin skillz on him.
Timmy dont have da stats.
Ghazi
01-09-2011, 04:38 PM
what an unimpressive troll
ButtHurt Committee
01-09-2011, 04:59 PM
LeBron James should be the MVP tbh
Cavs with Lebron: 61-21
Cavs without Lebron: 8-28
Cavs no longer have Shaq, Zadrunas, Andy, and Delonte. You add those four and they have a much better record.
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-09-2011, 05:01 PM
It would take an impressive amount of wins & streak for the Heat for Lebron to win a third straight MVP. I think Rose has a higher chance of winning it before Lebron does and we all know the odds are already stacked against Rose at the moment.
SA210
01-09-2011, 09:54 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/566657-manu-ginobili-the-best-player-on-the-leagues-best-teamdeserves-mvp
urunobili
01-09-2011, 10:19 PM
so no way a Spur wins it even if they tear up the regular season?
HarlemHeat37
01-10-2011, 12:09 AM
I agree with Jamstone's list, although I would slide Rose in there, too..
I'd have Howard over Nowitzki right now, due to Howard playing more games..if Dirk ends up playing a high amount of games and the Mavs end up in the top 3 in the West, I would probably take Nowitzki..
Howard was my pre-season pick though, so I'll stick with that..
Killakobe81
01-10-2011, 12:10 AM
I agree with Jamstone's list, although I would slide Rose in there, too..
I'd have Howard over Nowitzki right now, due to Howard playing more games..if Dirk ends up playing a high amount of games and the Mavs end up in the top 3 in the West, I would probably take Nowitzki..
Howard was my pre-season pick though, so I'll stick with that..
Gosh that avy picture Harl;em ...come on keep that shit on your private files ...
TD 21
01-10-2011, 12:28 AM
The Nowitzki obsession on this board continues. The argument that "the Mavs suck without him, so he should win it", is ridiculous.
Take Howard off the Magic or Rose off the Bulls and they'd suck, too. That's because the former has no other post player over 6'8 and a cadre of poor defenders. As such, they'd instantly turn into a sieve defensively. The latter would lack a shot creator, putting even more of a strain on their defense.
The point is, the Mavs sucking without Nowitzki has more to do with the composition of their roster than it does with how good Nowitzki is. That's not a knock on him, though.
Darrin
01-10-2011, 12:38 AM
Mavs are 24-5 with him and 2-5 without him.
Gotta be Dirk. I don't see anyone else winning it. Lebron and Wade have great numbers and the Heat have an excellent winning record but we all know neither is going to win it. Kobe's toasted, Duncan winning it is going to be a joke. Dwight doesn't score enough and the Knicks would need at least 55+ wins for Amar'e to have a serious case.
Congrats to the Diggler on his 2nd MVP.
Well, the Knicks are playing 600 basketball (.610 is 50 wins) so I think Amar'e is well on his way.
Cavs no longer have Shaq, Zadrunas, Andy, and Delonte. You add those four and they have a much better record.
Shaq missed a lot of last season and barely had an impact. Delonte also missed the majority of last season with his mental issues and Andy is still there just recently got injured. Come on Luva you are reaching.
Brazil
01-10-2011, 09:03 AM
For me Rose is out of this discussion, he is even not the best PG of the league.
Top 5 IMO Amare, Dirk, Lebron, Wade, Howard then Durant (after a difficult beginning of the season he is back on track compared to last year)
Zelophehad
01-10-2011, 09:16 AM
Dirk should win, but...
amare mvp. without him = laughing stock of the nba. with him legit playoff team
...this is true also.
TheGreatest23
01-10-2011, 12:52 PM
it should go to Dirk, imo
Shank
01-10-2011, 12:58 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/566657-manu-ginobili-the-best-player-on-the-leagues-best-teamdeserves-mvp
lol bleacher report
lefty
01-10-2011, 12:59 PM
When you look a the Bulls, they have beaten a bunch of good teams, and have had injuries
They started the season without Boozer, and Noah has been injured
My vote goes to Rose
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-10-2011, 02:09 PM
Yestrerday's game was a good example why people shouldn't consider Amar'e as a serious MVP candidate. He simply struggles against very good teams. I also don't believe the Knicks will maintain winning at this pace. D'Antoni coached teams always ran a too predictable offense. The difference this time is he doesn't have as much talent like he does in Pheonix.
And I'm going to be firm in my opinion that Dwight is not an MVP this year. He made some ikey mprovements on his offense, but nothing noteworthy. Every big man MVP had great offensive skillset (Duncan, Robinson, Olajuwon, Shaq, Garnett, Malone) as a matter of fact every MVP winner for the past 20 years had great offensive production. Dwight's 21 PPG is not going to cut it.
loveThe23
01-10-2011, 03:27 PM
It goes to Derrick Rose easily, IMO.
Leftyventricle
01-10-2011, 04:33 PM
matt bonner
LeHeat_Dynasty
01-22-2011, 12:15 PM
Dallas had an impressive win against the Lakers but none can be credited to Dirk then they lost a terrible game against Chicago. I jumped the gun to quickly so I'm going to back off with my MVP pick. Dirk is still very much in the discussion but the mavs need a strong second half.
Lebron IMO quickly becomes the best candidate, followed by Rose then Wade. Amare & the Knicks, as I've expected has fell down on earth losing the last 5 games.
Lebron
Rose
Wade
Dwight
Kobe
Dirk
Durant
Amare
With last night's brilliant performance against the Nuggets, I think its time to put Kobe back in the Top 5. I believe the Lakers are now 9-2 in their last 11 games and Kobe in his last 7 has been really efficient ( Averages of 23.1 PPG 5.5RPG 6.4APG 54% FG).
Season is still young, but Lebron appears to be the front runner, with Kobe as a possible darkhorse pick.
ChrisRichards
01-25-2011, 09:12 AM
Take Kobe off your Top 5 list and put CP3 and we have a deal.
mystargtr34
01-25-2011, 09:24 AM
1. Dwight
2. Dirk
3. LeBron
4. Rose
5. Kobe
mystargtr34
01-25-2011, 09:24 AM
1. Dwight
2. Dirk
3. LeBron
4. Rose
5. Kobe
Killakobe81
01-25-2011, 09:25 AM
1. Rose
2. Dwight
3. Dirk
4. Lebron
5. Kobe
ChrisRichards
01-25-2011, 10:05 AM
As of today
Lebron
Rose
Dwight
CP3
Dirk
Dirk
Durant
Amare
Aldridge
Odom
Kobe
I wouldn't consider Lebron MVP for much this year. The Heat would be a playoff team without him. He's capable of making a poor team into a really good one, but Miami isn't built in a way that lifts him up above other players in the league like Cleveland did.
So, I would say the MVP would be someone who's made the biggest difference for the team they are on, and that would be Joey Crawford.
Amuseddaysleeper
01-25-2011, 06:33 PM
1. Dirk
That's it and it's not even close. Rose has had a great year, but the Bulls are pretty stacked.
Chieflion
01-25-2011, 07:13 PM
1. Dirk
That's it and it's not even close. Rose has had a great year, but the Bulls are pretty stacked.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1253/5179059474_525179fc1b.jpg
They stacked.
Pelicans78
01-25-2011, 07:20 PM
I like Rose because of the injuries to Boozer and Noah.
Howard's team hasn't played well enough in my opinion.
Dirk had a great shot till his injury, but he's in the race.
Lakers have underachieved a bit for now. Heat too.
I think Rose would be the pick.
I like CP3 over Howard as well. Dirk is up there too. But Rose is my number one.
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