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bostonguy
01-10-2011, 01:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=6007793
By Rich Cimini
ESPNNewYork.com
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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- It's personal -- again. This time, Rex Ryan is out for Bill Belichick.
Calling out one of the most successful coaches in NFL history, the New York Jets' coach delivered an unsolicited rant Monday, admitting he was outcoached by Belichick in last month's blowout and vowing to flip the script in Sunday's AFC divisional playoff game against the New England Patriots.
"This is about Bill Belichick versus Rex Ryan," Ryan said, addressing the upcoming showdown in Foxborough for the first time. "There's no question, it's personal. It's about him against myself. That's what it's going to come down to."
In terms of football duels, this was the verbal equivalent of a white glove across the face.
Ryan said both teams are even from the standpoint of talent and assistant coaches, and that the rubber game will be decided by his ability to match wits with Belichick. In their last meeting, Dec. 6 in Foxborough, the Jets were humiliated on Monday Night Football 45-3.
"I was outcoached in that game," said Ryan, who also used the "it's personal" line last week in preparation for Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts. "I said it then, I'm saying it now. Belichick, I recognize the fact this is a Hall of Fame coach. He'll go down in history as maybe the greatest football coach in the history of this game, or going to be close to it.
"He was at that level that week and I was not. For whatever reason, I never had my team prepared the way it should've been prepared. That falls right down on me."
Belichick, in a conference call about two hours after Ryan made his comment, took a lighthearted approach.
"I might have a little quickness on him, he's probably got a little more strength and power on me," Belichick said. "I don't think you'll see either of us out there making any blocks, or tackles, or runs, throws or catches. At least you won't see me doing that. It's probably a good thing for our team."
Ryan's latest verbal assault, obviously orchestrated, was a variation of his celebrated "rings" rant from last year. A few months after being hired by the Jets, he said he didn't come to New York "to kiss Bill Belichick's rings."
Ryan is 2-2 against Belichick, but his credibility took a big hit last month. A few days before the anticipated showdown, Ryan said he wanted to "kick Belichick's ass." It turned out to be the other way around, as the Jets suffered the second-most lopsided defeat in franchise history.
The Jets were ill-prepared, and Ryan made questionable tactical decisions early in the contest. He wasted a replay challenge on a fourth-and-1 spot, and he let the then-slumping Nick Folk try a 53-yard field goal into swirling winds -- and he missed badly. Defensively, the Jets had no answers for Tom Brady, who passed for 326 yards and four touchdowns.
Clearly, the Jets missed safety Jim Leonhard, the "quarterback" of the secondary. He suffered a season-ending injury three days before the game, a major disruption in their defensive preparation. The Patriots picked on Leonhard's replacement, Eric Smith. Nevertheless, Ryan blamed himself.
"There are chess matches involved every week. It was checkmate," he said. "He definitely outcoached me."
This perhaps was a clever motivational ploy by Ryan to take the heat off his players this week. Instead of being reminded by reporters about how badly they played in the last meeting -- namely, Mark Sanchez, who threw three interceptions -- they will be bombarded with questions about Ryan's challenge.
The players were off Monday and not available to the media.
"This is going to be about me raising my level against Bill Belichick," Ryan said. "I recognize he's the best. I'm just trying to be the best on Sunday, and I plan on being the best coach on Sunday. ... That's what it is. I recognize my level has to come up. He's going to get my best shot. He's going to get everything I have on Sunday. If he slips at all, we're gonna beat him."
Ryan felt the Jets outsmarted themselves in the previous game, installing a game plan that looked good on paper but wasn't realistic. There may be some truth to that because, after playing Thanksgiving, they had 10 full days to prepare for the Patriots, who also played on Thanksgiving. Most teams thrive when given extra time, but the Jets tend to struggle after extended layoffs.
This time, they will use a "ridiculous amount of preparation" to formulate a game plan that doesn't confuse the players, according to Ryan. But he added, "That doesn't mean we're going to dummy it up. You dummy it up against them, and you get crushed."
The Jets won the first meeting in Week 2, 28-14. After the 45-3 debacle, Ryan told Belichick during the postgame handshake they'd meet again.
"I told Belichick after the game, 'We'll see you in Round 3,' " Ryan said. "He just looked at me."
This time, the stakes are huge. The survivor plays the Pittsburgh Steelers-Baltimore Ravens winner for the AFC championship.
"If we win this one, we'll be the same old Jets," Ryan said, "right back in the AFC Championship Game."
Rich Cimini covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com. You can follow him on Twitter.
DeadlyDynasty
01-10-2011, 01:22 PM
It was only a matter of time...:lol
Phillip
01-10-2011, 01:35 PM
go pats
bostonguy
01-10-2011, 01:37 PM
I expect to hear more smack from Ryan as the week progresses. Good start to the week though. :toast
Gotta love it.
My ideal superbowl would be Seahawks vs Jets. Who would Rex Ryan talk shit to then? Charlie Whitehurst?
san antonio spurs
01-10-2011, 01:43 PM
Here is what the jets players had to say on Saturday
WR Braylon Edwards (from @DanWetzel)
"I remember what happened [Dec. 6 in a 45-3 Patriots win] but at the end of the day we know we're better than them. ... If they come at us with their press coverage or man-to-man they did at beginning of the game we'll take advantage of it this time."
OL Damien Woody (from ESPN.com's Tim Graham)
"Couldn't have scripted it better, to get a third opportunity at a team. We split in the regular season, but people don't remember our win. They remember the huge blowout. You're only as good as your last game. So Part III is coming up."
DB Dwight Lowery (from ESPN.com's Tim Graham)
"Not going to happen again. That wasn't the same group of guys that showed up [vs. the Colts]. What happened in the last game definitely is not going to happen again. We'll be better prepared overall. It's a brand new game."
LB Bart Scott (commenting on Tom Brady seeing "Lombardi" last night, from ESPNNewYork's Ian O'Connor)
"Everybody prepares differently. Obviously Tom Brady's doing something right because he's got three Super Bowl rings. To each his own."
RB LaDanian Tomlinson (from the Boston Globe's Greg A. Bedard)
“Late in the fourth [quarter on Dec. 6] the Pats were talking and yapping. I said, 'You got us but we'll be back. We'll be back.'"
LB David Harris (from the Boston Globe's Greg A. Bedard)
“Of course I've thought about it [45-3 loss on Dec. 6]. That left a bad taste that hasn't gone away."
TE Dustin Keller (from the Boston Herald's Karen Guregian)
"They gave us a bad beating the last time we played them. So we feel like it’s two games in a row where it’s payback time. We’re going to get a chance to get back at them."
CB Antonio Cromartie (from the Boston Herald's Karen Guregian)
"That’s one game you say you want to forget, but it’s still in the back of your mind. You don’t forget nothing like that."
bostonguy
01-10-2011, 01:46 PM
:lmao@ LT.
dbreiden83080
01-10-2011, 01:51 PM
Pats will win again like 35-10..
Jets aren't that good..
DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
01-10-2011, 02:21 PM
I don't think Rex knows what SOJ actually means.
It's not a good thing, brah.
tlongII
01-10-2011, 02:25 PM
J - E - T - S Jets! Jets! Jets!
lefty
01-10-2011, 02:40 PM
Bellichick's wife >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan's wife
DeadlyDynasty
01-10-2011, 02:47 PM
I don't think Rex knows what SOJ actually means.
It's not a good thing, brah.
If you're friends with any Jetfans then you know they have those three letters burned in their brain:lol Some of them know it better than their own initials
Rummpd
01-10-2011, 04:29 PM
Pats 30 Pretenders 3 adios mouth
SAtown
01-10-2011, 06:11 PM
LOL calling the Jets pretenders still. In two years, both Rex Ryan and Sanchez are 3-1 in the postseason, all on the road. Should be a good game
SAtown
01-10-2011, 06:15 PM
and hey buttsore dumbshits, he's just having a little fun talking out of his ass. This was Belichick's response:
"I might have a little quickness on him, he's probably got a little more strength and power on me," Belichick said Monday on a conference call. "I don't think you'll see either of us out there making any blocks, or tackles, or runs throws or catches. At least you won't see me doing that. It's probably a good thing for our team."
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4691509/belichicks-witty-response-to-rex
You'd think that at this day and age where everyone is fined for everything, from hits to TD celebrations, you people (NFL FANS) would take this as slightly humorous.
The Gemini Method
01-10-2011, 06:22 PM
The one thing about Rex that I like most is that he says what's on his mind. That's missing in sports today...All this oh we played a heckuva team out there and you gotta give props to said vanquished team is kinda wussy. The guy is entertaining and regardless of what happens on Sunday, he'll definitely keep me interested because you just don't know what the guy is going to say. I wonder if Rob Ryan gets a job, would he be as outspoken as his brother is.
I think the Patriots will win this, but it won't be anywhere close to the 45-3 molestation that happened in the earlier game.
monosylab1k
01-10-2011, 06:25 PM
Funny how Rex Ryan loves to just have fun shooting the shit with the media, up until the point where his wife's foot fetish videos are brought up, then suddenly his mouth is shut like someone just put a plate of vegetables in front of him.
LnGrrrR
01-10-2011, 06:53 PM
Gotta love it.
My ideal superbowl would be Seahawks vs Jets. Who would Rex Ryan talk shit to then? Charlie Whitehurst?
:lol
"Look, I remember I went into Starbucks a few years back, and they made me the worst latte ever. So Seattle, this is payback!"
Warlord23
01-10-2011, 07:31 PM
Rex Ryan has become a caricature of himself. Between his bragging, getting his shit pushed in by the Pats, and his cuckold/swinger lifestyle he's certainly brought the lulz this season.
Of course, there's a lot of upside to this type of talk. If he fails, he'll only be seen as a buffoon - he's already got that rep anyhow, so no loss there. If he somehow beats the Pats, the NY media will treat him like the second coming of Namath.
rasho8
01-10-2011, 07:36 PM
Im just looking forward to the Pats stomping the living shit out of the Jets.
LnGrrrR
01-10-2011, 10:41 PM
You hear what he said today? Ryan is writing a check with a lot of zeroes in it... and if Pats go up early, Jets are going to be in for a long day. Belichick won't hesitate to drop as many points on the Jets as he can.
crc21209
01-11-2011, 01:23 AM
Rex Ryan just needs to shut the hell up. Seriously...this isnt the New York Ryans vs. the New England Belichicks. It's the Jets vs. the Patriots asshole. Your fat ass isnt out there doing a damn thing...sure you may call the plays...but you arent the one who has to execute them. Shut up, and let your team play the game...
slayermin
01-11-2011, 02:37 PM
Yep. It's a done deal. Patriots 2010 World Champs. Baltimore or Atlanta might give them a good game.
Enjoy it, Pats fan.
gaKNOW!blee
01-11-2011, 02:38 PM
LOL calling the Jets pretenders still. In two years, both Rex Ryan and Sanchez are 3-1 in the postseason, all on the road. Should be a good game
lol yeah it should be a good game, just like the last one :rolleyes
Brady is going to rape the living shit out of Cromartie....with the jets shitty pass rush they wont even touch Brady all day and he will just sit back there and carve that secondary apart. Then everyone can talk about how good Revis is while Cromartie and Lowery are getting their shit pushed in.
LnGrrrR
01-11-2011, 02:56 PM
lol yeah it should be a good game, just like the last one :rolleyes
Brady is going to rape the living shit out of Cromartie....with the jets shitty pass rush they wont even touch Brady all day and he will just sit back there and carve that secondary apart. Then everyone can talk about how good Revis is while Cromartie and Lowery are getting their shit pushed in.
Cromartie did get eaten up a bit in the Colts game. Should be interesting to see him try to cover all the short-to-middle range receivers we have (Welker, Gronk, Hernandez).
bostonguy
01-11-2011, 03:01 PM
Cromartie did get eaten up a bit in the Colts game. Should be interesting to see him try to cover all the short-to-middle range receivers we have (Welker, Gronk, Hernandez).
LNG who do we root for on Saturday (assuming the Pats win on Sunday of course)? I hate the Steelers but I would rather face them than the Ravens. I want no part of Baltimore.
bostonguy
01-11-2011, 03:03 PM
I do expect this game to be competitive. The Pats D has grown up alot during the season but we will see if they can keep improving in the win or go home type of games.
SAtown
01-11-2011, 03:11 PM
lol yeah it should be a good game, just like the last one :rolleyes
Brady is going to rape the living shit out of Cromartie....with the jets shitty pass rush they wont even touch Brady all day and he will just sit back there and carve that secondary apart. Then everyone can talk about how good Revis is while Cromartie and Lowery are getting their shit pushed in.
:lmao GODDAMN! 2001 Pats fans in full fucking force! I love it
LnGrrrR
01-11-2011, 03:17 PM
LNG who do we root for on Saturday (assuming the Pats win on Sunday of course)? I hate the Steelers but I would rather face them than the Ravens. I want no part of Baltimore.
Steelers, definitely. Baltimore has shown an ability to disrupt Brady, both in last year's playoffs and this year's game. We seem to match up better with the Steelers.
Steelers might be able to do the same, but Ravens have shown the potential two years now.
monosylab1k
01-11-2011, 03:22 PM
:lmao GODDAMN! 2001 Pats fans in full fucking force! I love it
That guy is a Bills fan you dumbass. People who only show up when their team wins probably wouldn't know that, though.
Lol you and DarrinS, 2009 Jets fans. But tell everyone about how miserable you were during the Blair Thomas years to try and prove your diehard lifelong fandom.
monosylab1k
01-11-2011, 03:26 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=105156
SAtown
01-11-2011, 03:31 PM
That guy is a Bills fan you dumbass.
lol explains why his ass hurts.
People who only show up when their team wins probably wouldn't know that, though.
Actually, I'm either here or the Other Sports forum most of the time i'm on ST, and I'm probably here more because there's more movement, more topics. Just because I don't average about 100 posts a day doesn't mean I'm "never" here until my team shows up. Win or lose, I'm here.
Lol you and DarrinS, 2009 Jets fans. But tell everyone about how miserable you were during the Blair Thomas years to try and prove your diehard lifelong fandom.
Wrong again. I've stated many times here when and how I became a fan. I'll tell you this much though, they didn't have one of the best QBs of all time and a bunch of SB rings. I've also been at this NFL Forum for longer than you have.
BTW, who the fuck is DarrinS?
monosylab1k
01-11-2011, 03:35 PM
:cry :cry :cry I've been here longer than you and I visit the NFL Forum more than you, but I still didn't know that guy was a Bills fan even though he makes it obvious everytime he posts :cry :cry :cry
SAtown
01-11-2011, 03:37 PM
For a person who has devoted years to practicing his gay little shticks, one would think you'd be a lot better than that at this point.
Give it up already.
monosylab1k
01-11-2011, 03:41 PM
For a person who has devoted years to practicing his gay little shticks, one would think you'd be a lot better than that at this point.
Give it up already.
For a guy who claims he's here all the time, one would think you wouldn't be so fucking retarded and ignorant to who one of the two Bills fans on the forum are.
And then accuse them of being a bandwagon Patriots fan, because that's just such a fucking original insult :lmao
DeadlyDynasty
01-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Steelers, definitely. Baltimore has shown an ability to disrupt Brady, both in last year's playoffs and this year's game. We seem to match up better with the Steelers.
Steelers might be able to do the same, but Ravens have shown the potential two years now.
I doubt Pittsburgh gets deebo'd like they did last time, but I still don't see them beating NE. The Ravens matchup well with the Pats--but like always--their chances depend on how well joey baggadonuts does...
bostonguy
01-12-2011, 10:27 AM
Antonio Cromartie 'hates' Tom Brady
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6014092
lefty
01-12-2011, 10:56 AM
Antonio Cromartie 'hates' Tom Brady
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6014092
CROFL
Brady already has a lot of haters
Cromartie's smack talk = FAIL
bostonguy
01-12-2011, 11:20 AM
CROFL
Brady already has a lot of haters
Cromartie's smack talk = FAIL
Lefty I forgot you are a Pats fan. My bad. How do you feel about our chances? Do you have faith that this improving young D can raise their level of play in the postseason?
lefty
01-12-2011, 12:04 PM
Lefty I forgot you are a Pats fan. My bad. How do you feel about our chances? Do you have faith that this improving young D can raise their level of play in the postseason?
I think they will
Those young players look confident and very hungry
I think the Pats are the favorites, but teams like the Jets and the Steelers are the ones that scare me.
bostonguy
01-12-2011, 12:38 PM
I think they will
Those young players look confident and very hungry
I think the Pats are the favorites, but teams like the Jets and the Steelers are the ones that scare me.
Really? The Steelers D doesn't match up well with this offense.Brady has just flat out owned them. He is their daddy.
The Ravens scare the shit out of me though. Brady has struggled against them. If the Pats beat the Jets, I would prefer to play Pittsburgh.
I expect this weekends game with New York to be much more competitive than the 45-3 win though.
lefty
01-12-2011, 12:45 PM
Really? The Steelers D doesn't match up well with this offense.Brady has just flat out owned them. He is their daddy.
The Ravens scare the shit out of me though. Brady has struggled against them. If the Pats beat the Jets, I would prefer to play Pittsburgh.
I expect this weekends game with New York to be much more competitive than the 45-3 win though.
Pittsburgh is one of those teams that are built for the playoffs
And don't worry, I didnt forget about the Ravens; however...call me crazy, but I would rather face the Ravens in the next round
Why? Because I fucking hate them
The owner of the company I used to work for (handing them my resignation letter was so fucking sweet) happens to own the Baltimore Ravens
It's on :hat
monosylab1k
01-12-2011, 12:46 PM
The Patriots defense has to prove themselves in the playoffs. And they haven't been all that great, even during the winning streak. Jets win.
Brodie Bruce
01-12-2011, 01:06 PM
Lol you and DarrinS, 2009 Jets fans. But tell everyone about how miserable you were during the Blair Thomas years to try and prove your diehard lifelong fandom.
DarrinS is a top notch bandwagoner. Almost as bad as ducks prior to JT pulling out the flamethrower on his ass after two seasons of not showing up to talk Chargers until they clinched playoffs. Which is retrospectively hilarious given that ducks now has a mancrush on JT and Peyton Manning anytime Manning makes any mistake.
But SAtown has been on here backing the Jets for years, way before 2009. More like 06. Gotta have my fellow Jets fan's back brah. I know I don't post in here a lot that's why you won't see me dropping the DarrinS "fuck your mothers and hide your wives the Jets are gonna tap that ass"-type smack that he brings.
lefty
01-12-2011, 02:18 PM
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/5kkln4.gif
LnGrrrR
01-12-2011, 04:06 PM
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/5kkln4.gif
:lol
That's pretty f'ing pathetic.
SAtown
01-12-2011, 04:56 PM
That gif leaves out the best part, when Greene gets in the endzone, does the LT celebration only to be interrupted by a butthurt Cromartie.
And Cro should be the last person talking shit after his performance last Saturday. His gamesaving kickoff return really doesn't solidify a good game from him.
SAtown
01-12-2011, 05:01 PM
Lefty I forgot you are a Pats fan.
You better hope Mono doesn't read this or he'll give you a gay little lecture about knowing everyone's favorite teams lol
monosylab1k
01-12-2011, 06:51 PM
You better hope Mono doesn't read this or he'll give you a gay little lecture about knowing everyone's favorite teams lol
bostonguy doesn't brag about how long he's been on the Forum and drop the "lol you're a bandwagon fan and I'm not!" card like a little faggot.
san antonio spurs
01-12-2011, 11:01 PM
What a stupid fuck says as a professional CB in the NFL that he doesn't play against the QB, that he plays against the WRs.
Seeing that gif it's understandable. He doesn't play against RBs either.
Greg Oden
01-12-2011, 11:37 PM
the only person he plays against is Randy Moss' corpse.
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