The Ultimate Fighter: Team Lesnar vs. Team dos Santos Starts March 30th Thread

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

Brock Lesnar and Junior Dos Santos named "The Ultimate Fighter 13" coaches

http://mmajunkie.com/news/22057/brock-lesnar-and-junior-dos-santos-named-the-ultimate-fighter-13-coaches.mma

[ace3g]

I like the coaches being named, but I don't like what will result from the finale; more controversy of who deserves the #1 contender spot for the Heavyweight title.

Dos Santos definitely deserves a shot at Cain before Brock gets a rematch.

[MannyIsGod]

Not if he loses to Brock.

[Stringer_Bell]

Say what they might about Brock's MMA know-how, but he's got some stones stepping in there with such an opponent after such a terrible loss. It'll be an entertaining season, too bad they aren't coaching featherweights tho lol

[Rip-Hamilton32]

does Dos Santos even speak english?

[benefactor]

What exactly is Brock going to teach them?

[ohmwrecker]

What exactly is Brock going to teach them?

How to be a pea-brained racist, homophobe homunculus?

[dbreiden83080]

Not if he loses to Brock.

Exactly and JDS was not that impressive in his last fight. This is a better matchup for Brock to get it down and do damage


We'll see..

[dbreiden83080]

What exactly is Brock going to teach them?

What does that mean?

He's a former HW champ with 2 defenses and wins over guys like Randy, Herring, Mir and Carwin

What are you saying he is not qualified? :lol

Bisping coached that show.. :lol

[sa_butta]

This should be a good show, giving both coaches a great chance to show they deserve a shot at Cain.

[ace3g]

What Will Brock Lesnar's Strategy Be?

The first thing that fans need to remember is that while Lesnar may have come to the UFC after a high-profile career as a “sports entertainer,” he also brings a wealth of real wrestling experience, including his national championship at the University of Minnesota, where he won the heavyweight tournament as a senior in 2000. Given that collegiate wrestling has formed the base for many of the UFC’s most successful fighters, from Hall of Famers like Dan Severn, Randy Couture and Matt Hughes all the way through current champions Frankie Edgar and Cain Velazquez, the experience that Lesnar will bring to Season 13 goes far beyond his 5-2 pro MMA record.

The biggest question mark about Lesnar - and the biggest potential weakness for him as a TUF coach – is not his inexperience. It’s his camp.

Lesnar’s DeathClutch camp is built around one man: Brock Lesnar. Marty Morgan is charged with bringing in the coaches and training partners that Lesnar needs to prepare for a given fight. Sometimes it works (Frank Mir, Randy Couture, Shane Carwin) and sometimes it doesn’t (Cain Velazquez). However, preparing one fighter for one fight and adjusting the camp for each new opponent is one thing. A different approach will be needed for a six week camp with seven fighters, all of whom give up nearly 100 pounds to Lesnar.

As an assistant head wrestling coach at the University of Minnesota, Morgan is used to dealing with athletes of all sizes, and was himself an undefeated national champion wrestler at 177 pounds in his senior year of Minnesota. However, the pacing of MMA bouts in the welterweight division tends to be much different than in the heavyweight division, and Season 13 will mark Morgan’s first experience coaching MMA welterweights.

continue reading: http://www.ultimatefighter.com/blog/what-will-brock-lesnar-s-strategy-be?xrs=synd_facebook

[CubanSucks]

How to be a pea-brained racist, homophobe homunculus?

no no, Cain Velasquez is the one with the Brown Pride tattoo, not Lesnar. Easy mistake to make. :wakeup

[CubanSucks]

I think he's well qualified. His ground game is pretty much perfect and his striking isn't bad at all. His only problem is shelling up when getting hit (Cain), and that won't hinder his coaching at all.

Like db said, Bisping coached! And I think I can comfortably say that Lesnar is a better striker than Bisping is on the ground

[ezau]

Dos Santos as coach? Fuck that shit.

[polandprzem]

So who now gets a title shot?

[tlongII]

So this match might end up in Vancouver !!!!!!!!!!!!!????!!!!!

Plus rumours of Carwin fighting on the same card. I will be going!

Bring a thick wallet! :lol I went to the UFC in Portland and it set me back some serious cash.

[dbreiden83080]

So who now gets a title shot?

Winner of Brock and JDS Dana said. JDS is the clear number 2 so if Brock gets bye him you have to give it to him..

[polandprzem]

Winner of Brock and JDS Dana said. JDS is the clear number 2 so if Brock gets bye him you have to give it to him..

Cain is not gonna fight in summer?

[dbreiden83080]

Cain is not gonna fight in summer?

Probably fall..

[The TroutBum]

I honestly couldn't think of two people I would rather NOT have coaching. Fuck me running, this is some bull shit.

[G-Dawgg]

Not if he loses to Brock.

Exactly

[G-Dawgg]

We've seen brock dominated by strikers in his last 2 fights with Carwin and Velasqeuz... and to honest, I think Junior might have even better hands than both of those guys... It'll definately be an interesting scrap...

[Rip-Hamilton32]

Junior won't be able to keep the fight standing, and Brock will GnP for the win

[CubanSucks]

Junior won't be able to keep the fight standing, and Brock will GnP for the win

exactly. Carwin stuffed the td (in the first round at least) and so did Cain. Can JDS?

[ace3g]

BUMP, show starts Wednesday!!!

[HighLowLobForBig-50]

great bump i wouldve forgotten.

[The TroutBum]

After re-watching some of JDS's fights and remembering what a cock sucking fuck he is, I'm actually going into this show rooting for Lesner.



Yes, my world has officially come crashing down.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm actually going into this show rooting for Lesner.


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[dbreiden83080]

I'm gonna change the thread title and just make this the official thread to talk TUF 13..

[dbreiden83080]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Tuf13.jpg


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Coaches

Team Lesnar
Brock Lesnar
Marty Morgan
Eric Paulson
Rodrigo Medeiros
Greg Nelson
Chris "Mayhem" Manos


Team dos Santos
Junior dos Santos
Billy Scheibe
Luiz Dorea


Fighters

Tony Ferguson
Myles Jury
Charlie Rader
Shamar Bailey
Nordin Asrih
Len Bentley
Michael Bowman
Keon Caldwell
Chris Cope
Zachary Davis
Clay Harvison
Ryan McGillivray
Ramsey Nijem
Javier Torres

[MannyIsGod]

Looking forward to it. Hope to have a good season.

[The TroutBum]

I can't believe I'm the first person to post on this...


I already hate this season. Brock and JDS can go blow eachother.

[CubanSucks]

holy shit didn't even realize it started last night. Gotta catch the rerun

[MannyIsGod]

First night pretty much sucked.

[dbreiden83080]

First shows usually sucks. Gets better as we get to know the fighters

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah we'll see. So far JDS seems like he's going to be the weakest personality ever on the show. The fight was absolutely terrible. If the guy who won had ANY submission skills it would have been over in the first.

Teach these boys some BJJ!

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah we'll see. So far JDS seems like he's going to be the weakest personality ever on the show. The fight was absolutely terrible. If the guy who won had ANY submission skills it would have been over in the first.

Teach these boys some BJJ!

[dallaskd]

i lost interest in this show tbh

[The TroutBum]

Last season was great simply because we all knew KosFaggot was going to get his shit handed to him on a silver platter. This season: Who Fucking Cares?

[polandprzem]

Good show to take a look though.

You have too much expectations.

[ManuBalboa]

Brock is looking lean. I am impress.

[ace3g]

I like how Brock was using a "hands on" approach showing the guys how to improve their wrestling

[MannyIsGod]

So far this season is by far the worst I've seen. There's no personality at all. This fight was better but it was still pretty boring as shit.

[The TroutBum]

So far this season is by far the worst I've seen. There's no personality at all. This fight was better but it was still pretty boring as shit.

I agree. This is what TUF gets for having the two shittiest coaches of all time.

[dbreiden83080]

TUF to me is usually about the guys in the house and how much they grab your attention. Sometimes we get a great coaching rivalry (Page/Shad) but horrible fights on the show. Kos and GSP was cool and some great fights. Tito and Ken on season 3 was still the best TUF ever IMO.. Tons of heat between them and great fights with guys we related too. We'll see how the fights go here as that will tell the story of this season. Brock and JDS don't hate eachother and JDS honestly is a very quiet and respectful guy.

Brock shit-talks his own team more than he does JDS..:lol

[polandprzem]

I liked the episode

[ManuBalboa]

Chickenshit to Chicken Salad fellas!!!! That's how we do it!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Brock is the worst coach of all time.

Good fight this week. Thought it should have gone 3, though.

[desflood]

Are you sure? I recall both Ken Shamrock and Rampage being pretty terrible.

[dbreiden83080]

good show last night

[Stringer_Bell]

First episode I liked, and exciting fight.

I just wonder why, if all those guys come into the house in fighting shape, they are so gassed by the 2nd round of the fight in the first tournament round.

[dbreiden83080]

The best season of TUF ever was still season 3

Anyone want a reminder of why here it is...



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[Soul_Patch]

The best season of TUF ever was still season 3

Anyone want a reminder of why here it is...



PuZ_lU68JJ8

Damn, Dana was thin...lol...

[polandprzem]

First episode I liked, and exciting fight.

I just wonder why, if all those guys come into the house in fighting shape, they are so gassed by the 2nd round of the fight in the first tournament round.

Yea I think right now we are used to guys not gassing after 2 rounds.
This sport evolving. Few years back you had plenty guys that could not keep the pace for 3 rounds.

All training and conditioning went up and the pro's must to step up their training so they could be as effective in the 1st as in 3rd or 5th round.

[dallaskd]

TUF's ratings are dropping fast. this season has the lowest since TUF 2..

http://mmaweekly.com/tuf-13-tv-ratings-continue-decline-but-dana-white-points-to-shows-longevity

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah this season sucks although that heel kick KO was pretty sweet.

[CubanSucks]

TUF's ratings are dropping fast. this season has the lowest since TUF 2..

http://mmaweekly.com/tuf-13-tv-ratings-continue-decline-but-dana-white-points-to-shows-longevity

:lmao and this thread reflects that. Last post nearly a month ago and only bumped to show the crappy ratings. I just can't wait for their fight

[dbreiden83080]

TUF's ratings are dropping fast. this season has the lowest since TUF 2..

http://mmaweekly.com/tuf-13-tv-ratings-continue-decline-but-dana-white-points-to-shows-longevity

Brock/Mir would have delivered the goods.. JDS is too nice..

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah the biggest drama is between JDS and his coaches. :lol

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah the biggest drama is between JDS and his coaches. :lol

Mir has fought Brock twice and in spite of the beating he got the 2nd time he is not afraid of Brock. Mir is a nutcase and a great talker. Brock can't stand him so the drama would have been sweet. JDS is higher ranked so the deal was made but it's been bad for ratings.. Brock is not a big talker on his own, he needs someone to get him fired up..

[polandprzem]

It all comes to the mouthtalk more then fighting itself.

You come here and are not interested in the show because there is no trashtalking.


I like to watch it and it's okay to me. There is so much shit talking around everywhere that I'm fed up with it sometimes.

[dbreiden83080]

It all comes to the mouthtalk more then fighting itself.

You come here and are not interested in the show because there is no trashtalking.


I like to watch it and it's okay to me. There is so much shit talking around everywhere that I'm fed up with it sometimes.

I like this season and i watch for the fights and fighters first. When you get 2 coaches who hate eachother it is a bonus and that is missing this season..

[The TroutBum]

I'm glad this season sucks -- I loathe both coaches and watching them fail makes me all warm inside.

[MannyIsGod]

Sure watching for the figthts and the fighters is fine but most of these fighters suck and they're pretty much all boring.

[The TroutBum]

LOL @ That little queer bait that didn't get picked for the wildcard... Sack up, you little fuck. (that's how bad this season is, I don't even know anyone's name)

[ace3g]

The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale

MAIN CARD

Tony Ferguson vs. Ramsey Nijem ("TUF 13" tourney finale)
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado
Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil
Tim Credeur vs. Ed Herman

PRELIMINARY CARD

Danny Downes vs. Jeremy Stephens
Josh Grispi vs. George Roop
Reuben Duran and Francisco Rivera
Scott Jorgensen vs. Ken Stone
Justin Edwards vs. Clay Harvison
Shamar Bailey vs. Ryan McGillivray

[polandprzem]

I don't know who cheer for

Almost every guy pissed me off to some degree.


I will go with Tony though.
I hate that striper fag

[dbreiden83080]

Tony has some slick stand-up. he is hard to hit, has fast hands and good power..

Final against Ramsey is tough to pick..

[dbreiden83080]

The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale

MAIN CARD

Tony Ferguson vs. Ramsey Nijem ("TUF 13" tourney finale)
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado
Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil
Tim Credeur vs. Ed Herman

PRELIMINARY CARD

Danny Downes vs. Jeremy Stephens
Josh Grispi vs. George Roop
Reuben Duran and Francisco Rivera
Scott Jorgensen vs. Ken Stone
Justin Edwards vs. Clay Harvison
Shamar Bailey vs. Ryan McGillivray

A lot of guys from both teams did not make the card.. Sucks for them the UFC has decided they don't make the grade.. Len Bentley didn't get a spot for the finale LOL.. He was such a dick..

[MannyIsGod]

Most of them sucked. At the finale matchup is good.

[MannyIsGod]

Stripper Ramsey ftw, btw. Tony is a cocksucker.

[dbreiden83080]

Stripper Ramsey ftw, btw. Tony is a cocksucker.

Tony has a lot of potential though. Good athlete with great hands...

And Brock said his wrestling was good..

[ace3g]

Yeah Tony has better technical striking, which I believe will be adv over Ramsey who kind of just wails his punches and wide angles, leaving himself open for a jab or uppercut.

[ace3g]

Weigh Ins are today at 6 p.m. CST: http://www.ufc.tv/ufc/video/tuf-finale-weighin/529?watch=true

[The TroutBum]

Tony Ferguson vs. Ramsey Nijem - He's from Utah, I have to pick him. Besides, Ferguson is a fucking faggot.
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis - This is a no-brainer. Guida sucks more cock than Polandprzm.
Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil - Cope is an obnoxious fuck. Go Charles.

PRELIMINARY CARD

Danny Downes vs. Jeremy Stephens
Josh Grispi vs. George Roop - Roop is a big underdog, but I love him.
Reuben Duran and Francisco Rivera
Scott Jorgensen vs. Ken Stone - Jorgensen will be getting a title shot soon.

[ace3g]

Fresh news: ALL of tomorrow night's prelims will be live and free online on Facebook.com/UFC

via UFC Twitter

[polandprzem]

Guida sucks more cock than Polandprzm

Att whore failure again
Trying to write my name correctly

[polandprzem]

MAIN CARD

Tony Ferguson vs. Ramsey Nijem ("TUF 13" tourney finale)
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado
Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil
Tim Credeur vs. Ed Herman

PRELIMINARY CARD

Danny Downes vs. Jeremy Stephens
Josh Grispi vs. George Roop
Reuben Duran and Francisco Rivera
Scott Jorgensen vs. Ken Stone
Justin Edwards vs. Clay Harvison
Shamar Bailey vs. Ryan McGillivray

[dbreiden83080]

MAIN CARD

Tony Ferguson vs. Ramsey Nijem ("TUF 13" tourney finale)
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado
Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil
Tim Credeur vs. Ed Herman

[dbreiden83080]

Probably a win or go home fight for Herman..

[ace3g]

MAIN CARD
Tony Ferguson vs. Ramsey Nijem ("TUF 13" tourney finale)
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado
Chris Cope vs. Chuck O'Neil
Tim Credeur vs. Ed Herman

[ace3g]

George Roop looked very impressive against Grispi

[ace3g]

Cope dominated the fight with striking: spinning kicks, 1 spinning back fist, punch combos

[ace3g]

great 1st round between Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado

[Stringer_Bell]

great 1st round between Kyle Kingsbury vs. Fabio Maldonado

Early contender for FOTN, both guys are going for it. I figured Kingsbury would KO in the first just from what I'd seen of him, but Maldanado's boxing is really impressive.

[ace3g]

crazy the size difference in this fight

[ace3g]

lol Maldonado just let Kingsbury punch him in the chin

[Stringer_Bell]

Maldanado needs to go to MW, he would fucking kill people with those body shots.

GREAT FIGHT! I wouldn't be surprised if this was a draw, even tho Maldanado clearly won the 3rd round.

WTF happened to Kingsbury's eye. Holy shit lol

[ace3g]

Herman wins a quick one

[Stringer_Bell]

Just when Guida gets exciting and looks to be a contender, Clay N Pray shows up and fucks up a totally exciting fight.

It's 1-1 after 2 rounds, fuck takedowns.

[ace3g]

both made great reversals

[Stringer_Bell]

both made great reversals

Bullshit, Guida did nothing with his reversal but try to sit on his back. FUck this decision even before its announced.

[ace3g]

look Guida would be stupid to get in a striking battle with a great unorthodox striker like Pettis, hence why I felt his movement and wrestling could work in this fight

[benefactor]

Ugh...Guida wins. I just can't stand that dude. He reminds me of the monkey guy off Bloodsport.

[ace3g]

Ramsey has some good training partners in Court McGee and Jonathon Brookins

[ace3g]

woo

[benefactor]

Boom...

[ace3g]

4-1 night makes up for that 1-4 UFC 130 night

[benefactor]

Tony is a bag of douche, but this was not unexpected...especially when fight stayed standing for so long.

[dbreiden83080]

Tony is a bag of douche, but this was not unexpected...especially when fight stayed standing for so long.

Tony appears to be the real deal. Great athlete with good wrestling and striking. His JJ looked pretty good too. Wonder why he needed TUF to get in the UFC. Dude has loads of talent..

[polandprzem]

Fuckin Guida - I hate it

[dbreiden83080]

Fuckin Guida - I hate it

Has anyone ever won so many ugly fights ever in the UFC?

[polandprzem]

Has anyone ever won so many ugly fights ever in the UFC?

It depends what you call an ugly.
Some guys hated on Machida.

Randys style was not very flashy also ...



I hate his all appearance. His jumping and laying on opponents. He did not much damage and Pettis was active and was attacking as well.

[dbreiden83080]

It depends what you call an ugly.
Some guys hated on Machida.

Randys style was not very flashy also ...



I hate his all appearance. His jumping and laying on opponents. He did not much damage and Pettis was active and was attacking as well.

Well Machida has what it takes to violently KO top fighters like Rashad. He just plays chess so much and it pisses people off. Guida has made a career of taking guys down and laying on them. He has great wrestling and cardio, he is a machine with pace but my god, where is the damage? He has horrible GNP, and mediocre submissions. His sub defense is good but only used for escaping and then laying some more. He just does enough to get the judges nod and nothing more.. Pettis did the right thing last night by being hugely aggressive from the bottom because all Guida wanted to do was stay busy enough to not get stood up..

[polandprzem]

Well Machida has what it takes to violently KO top fighters like Rashad. He just plays chess so much and it pisses people off. Guida has made a career of taking guys down and laying on them. He has great wrestling and cardio, he is a machine with pace but my god, where is the damage? He has horrible GNP, and mediocre submissions. His sub defense is good but only used for escaping and then laying some more. He just does enough to get the judges nod and nothing more.. Pettis did the right thing last night by being hugely aggressive from the bottom because all Guida wanted to do was stay busy enough to not get stood up..
Yup, and he stayed active with the shoulder hits.



btw. have you noticed Joe trying to educate the viewers more?
I can't remember when he was talking about all the technical stuff of the game and why this why that since .. I can remember

[strosFan2]

It depends what you call an ugly.
Some guys hated on Machida.

Randys style was not very flashy also ...



I hate his all appearance. His jumping and laying on opponents. He did not much damage and Pettis was active and was attacking as well.

I don't hate Guida but I saw it the same way. A bunch of moving/jumping around and they laying on pettis. I saw very little GnP from Guida, it was more defending constant subs, but the top man always gets the decision for staying on top...
I was impressed with Pettis' grappling and sub attempts though.

[ace3g]

TUF 13's Chuck O'Neil Released by the UFC http://sbn.to/keUQBV

[dbreiden83080]

TUF 13's Chuck O'Neil Released by the UFC http://sbn.to/keUQBV

Dana liked him but Chuck was god awful at the finale against Cope..

[benefactor]

Tough ass dude...but he's gotta go get some real skills. Top-tier fighters are just too well rounded now.

[dbreiden83080]

Tough ass dude...but he's gotta go get some real skills. Top-tier fighters are just too well rounded now.

So true. The era of the specialists has really come and gone. You better have a big tool-bag of skills or find another career..