Spurs trade in the works?

[rr2418]

Heard trade rumors today on 1250 The Zone that would send Tiago Splitter, George Hill, and DeJuan Blair to Minnesota Timberwolves for center Kevin Love. I would hate for the Spurs to lose any of these guys espacially Hill and Blair, but the Spurs would be getting a big in Love that they do need to compete with the Lakers. Besides, Love has being playing great as of late!

[Banzai]

Trade can still happen? February last month to do anything?

[CubanMustGo]

Heard trade rumors today on 1250 The Zone that would send Tiago Splitter, George Hill, and DeJuan Blair to Minnesota Timberwolves for center Kevin Love. I would hate for the Spurs to lose any of these guys espacially Hill and Blair, but the Spurs would be getting a big in Love that they do need to compete with the Lakers. Besides, Love has being playing great as of late!

http://forum.grasscity.com/photopost/data/500/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

but ...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4boahak

[Creation88]

lol 1250 = asstown

[DPG21920]

Yes, many people are talking about this. This is stupid. This does not stem from any inside knowledge, but their idea of what would be cool.

[rr2418]

lol 1250 = asstown

LOL, yeah I know but 760 was on a commercial so I changed the station. I think it was more Kevin Love's wishful thinking!

[024]

got my hopes up...

[Creation88]

i'd give up Blair/Splitter for him but Georgie's the deal breaker.

[Mugen]

lol even kevin love would be playin behind Bonner on this team.

[ajballer4]

I cant decide if I like this or not. We really need Hill.

[ezau]

We need Hill and to some extent Blair and Tiago. One of the reasons why we have been successful so far is because of our depth. Sure we'll get a 20-20 monster in Kevin Love but we have to remember that he plays for the worst team in the West.

[ChuckD]

lol even kevin love would be playin behind Bonner on this team.


Fail. He shoots the 3 AND rebounds. He'd be Pop's new bro-mance.

Not going to happen, though.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

nvmd

[baseline bum]

Heard trade rumors today on 1250 The Zone that would send Tiago Splitter, George Hill, and DeJuan Blair to Minnesota Timberwolves for center Kevin Love. I would hate for the Spurs to lose any of these guys espacially Hill and Blair, but the Spurs would be getting a big in Love that they do need to compete with the Lakers. Besides, Love has being playing great as of late!

To hell with that; hold out for Dwight Howard.

[Mugen]

Fail. He shoots the 3 AND rebounds. He'd be Pop's new bro-mance.

Not going to happen, though.

lol thinking Pop would just dump the "best shooter" he's ever coached.

don't use logic when explaining Pop's man crush on bonner. it was a joke but i honestly wouldnt be surprised.

[frodo]

but ...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4boahak

can't pretend to not like it tbh, just don't see it happening. blair & hill ain't enough to get spurs Kevin love tbh, spurs would need to surrender a couple picks as well

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Even though this is bullshit, there are actually people that would be hesitant about this?..:lol..

[Hoops Czar]

Kevin Love would fit right in. He doesn't play any defense either.

[Mugen]

:lol Even though this is bullshit, there are actually people that would be hesitant about this?..:lol..

Seriously, the spurs should resign Udoka just to fucking drive kevin love down to San Antonio if this had a chance of going down.

[DMC]

I think I heard that the Spurs were going to trade Manu and Tony to Turkey for Iverson.

[frodo]

Kevin Love would fit right in. He doesn't play any defense either.

yeah, he's a stat whore

[koriwhat]

1250 sucks just like the rest of FM-AM.

[Chase_the_Bass]

Would you trade the guy that got the first 30-30 since Moses?

[ChuckD]

lol thinking Pop would just dump the "best shooter" he's ever coached.

don't use logic when explaining Pop's man crush on bonner. it was a joke but i honestly wouldnt be surprised.

Trust me: this is like the guy who's devoted to his wife...until he hits the lottery. Then he dumps her for the hot babe. Love is the hot babe.

[dbreiden83080]

Who the hell makes a trade when you are 33-6?

Don't buy it..

[DAF86]

Timberwolves would never do this. Spurs fans saying they wouldn't do it are crazy.

[DPG21920]

Timberwolves would never do this. Spurs fans saying they wouldn't do it are crazy.

Pretty much sums it up.

[jjktkk]

Kevin Love would fit right in. He doesn't play any defense either.

I hear the Cavs are relocating to Toledo.

[Brazil]

:lol Even though this is bullshit, there are actually people that would be hesitant about this?..:lol..

exactly my thought :lol

[Sean Cagney]

:lol
I cant decide if I like this or not. We really need Hill.

Don't worry, it will not happen... Yes you can rest :lol

[024]

lol spur fans actually opposing this trade.

[ElNono]

No way Wolves do that

[Ice009]

The only way something like this is even close to legit is if Kahn really does have some sort of an infatuation for overseas players to go and trade Love.

[Seventyniner]

Just checked ShamSports; Minnesota's highest-paid player is Michael Beasley at under $5 million!

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/timberwolves.jsp

Check out Pekovic's deal, makes Tiago look like even more a steal.




Oh yeah, almost forgot...this trade won't happen. Love is their franchise player.

[dbreiden83080]

lol spur fans actually opposing this trade.

They are 33-6

Who says they need to make a trade??

[ElNono]

If anything, with their coach being buddy buddy with Phil Jackson, he can only end with the Fakers...

[BlairForceDejuan]

lol thinking the Spurs get rid of Hill in one of the last years to win a ring.

[frodo]

spurs will start to build around Hill as a franchise player once tim calls time to his career

[ducks]

they will build around tp not hill you fool

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

To hell with that; hold out for Dwight Howard.

Exactly.

:rolleyes

As if Minne would give up their cornerstone for 3 role players... actually, wait a minute, it is KAAAAAAAAAAHHHHN we're talking about. :lmao

[ajballer4]

If anything, with their coach being buddy buddy with Phil Jackson, he can only end with the Fakers...

And he went to UCLA...

[Ice009]

Like I said the only way this would be considered is if Kahn has some crazy infatuation for Euro players. Apart from that then there is 0.1% chance of a trade like this.

[ffadicted]

Georgie makes this hard, but at the end it's a no brainer. We're stacked in the backcourt and lacking up front, this would balance things out perfectly. Neal and (hopefully) Anderson would be enough to fill out the void left by Georgie's absence

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol George Hill's peak in the NBA is a great 6th man..

Kevin Love's peak is a perennial All-Star..

Obviously Minny doesn't do it, but I have no idea how anybody involved with the Spurs would reject the deal..Love even spaces the floor, which Pop would love:lol..

[Danny.Zhu]

NO. This will totally ruin the team chemistry, just like what Suns did this season.

[cutewizard]

Lets trade Bonner for MJ

oh i forgot His Airness has retired

LOL

[spurspokesman]

Timberwolves would never do this. Spurs fans saying they wouldn't do it are crazy.
My sentiments exactly

[BlairForceDejuan]

All that matters is going for a ring while TD is still a Spur.

Getting Love (like they would have a shot :lol) is an unknown. Hill beat the Mavs last season. The Spurs have invested in Hill for these years. To get rid of Hill for an unknown would be ridiculously foolish.

[BanditHiro]

how about blair splitter and our 2011 draft with the promise that the spurs will hand pick the players.

i just can't quit George Hill

[BanditHiro]

Lets trade Bonner for MJ

oh i forgot His Airness has retired

LOL

dkrja3wLxIY

[frodo]

Love is a stat whore said in all honesty. dude plays on a lottery team where no one cares his stat-oriented style of play. dude looks even better than D-Howard stat-wise but theres sincerely no hell of way he preponderates Howard

[BanditHiro]

Love is a stat whore said in all honesty. dude plays on a lottery team where no one cares his stat-oriented style of play. dude looks even better than D-Howard stat-wise but theres sincerely no hell of way he preponderates Howard

not like we would be giving up much to get the rebound king if the rumors are true

[InK]

i'd give up Blair/Splitter for him but Georgie's the deal breaker.

Here we go, now we just need the girl from Juno, and some cables and we ready to roll

[frodo]

plus love plays no D. i'd rather have Blair out there alongside Tim since trigga plays harder and gives protection for Tim. love would be a nice player to have but if it means reshuffling your cards & ruining the team's chemistry, i'd rather call it off.

[frodo]

not like we would be giving up much to get the rebound king if the rumors are true

wolves ain't losing him cheap imho. dudes a 20+15 player this season after all

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

No reason to make a trade here. Spurs are doing fine.

[TXstbobcat]

If the wolves traded Love, I think the remaining few loyal wolves fans up here in Minneapolis would give up on them. Kevin Love is the only reason why most of the wolves fans that I know up here are still following them this season.

[Ditty]

Why would the twolves do that..makes no sense that there stacked on guards and right now. Love is better than Blair and Splitter combined unless Kahn thinks Splitter is the next big thing in the nba.

[DMC]

This is the easiest forum in the world for trolling. It works every single time.

[JR3]

Giving up George's perimeter defense is enough for me to veto this deal.

[TDMVPDPOY]

we have 3 guys earning shit

so we go out to trade for a guy whose looking for a payday

[cube1980]

If that trade happens, you are gonna LOVE the game when Love is owned by Lakers bigs.

[Yorae]

Love for Bonner! DOooooooooooooo it!

[Budkin]

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Horrible trade.

[4>0rings]

:lol Even though this is bullshit, there are actually people that would be hesitant about this?..:lol..
No shit.

I was thinking after the T-Wolves game that what ever contending team lands K Love, it's gg NBA. This thread made my pants happy.

[4>0rings]

Giving up George's perimeter defense is enough for me to veto this deal.
:rollin

[Hoops Czar]

Throw in Luke Ridnour and you got a deal!

[Spurologist]

where do I sign?

[Hoops Czar]

Chris Quinn isn't that much worse than him.

I don't know about that. Ridnour would be perfect of the bench to replacer Hill. He shoots over 40% from behind the arc. Spurs can't afford to lose both Hill and Blair even though theoretically, Love will outproduce both combined. You still need to fill the void left bu Hill coming off the bench. He can also play the point behind Tony.

[gospursgojas]

Why is this 3 pages?

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe:lol

[Hoops Czar]

Maybe if the team wasn't 33-6. Kevin Love is solid defensively and would be a much more than welcome addition to the Spurs, and for Blair and Splitter would actually be a no brainer for me. However, I think Hill is too important and I know how much the wolves like Hill.

K-Love is a player you can build around. I just don't see that in Hill even though he occasionally has some nice games.

[jmanu20]

I'm on the side of those fans who believe giving up Hill is the "deal breaker." IIRC, those 4 games without him earlier this season, we gave up an average of 110.5 a game. That number went way down when he returned. Lose Hill, and there goes our best defender on Kobe. That's some food for thought for an organization who has ridden a "defense-first" mentality to four championships.

I like Blair's energy and hustle, but he has been so inconsistent this season. Love is 5 inches taller AND spreads the floor. I get the feeling some Spurs fans like it simply because it'd make Bonner expendable (even if most of this board doesn't want to admit that Matty has been a HUGE reason why we've pulled out our last two games).

In closing, losing Hill's defense is enough for me to say no to this trade, not to mention we have managed to go 33-6 with Anderson injured and virtually zero contribution from Splitter.

[024]

They are 33-6

Who says they need to make a trade??
the lakers

[5in10]

Well anderson looked like he had the makings of a pretty good defender IIRC. Either way, don't fix whats not broke. Although I would love to have that beast.

[SenorSpur]

If there is any truth to this rumor, I'm personally glad to hear it. Because it means the Spurs realize that, despite their stellar record, they are short-handed up front.

Besides the consistent double-doubles that he's been throwing up this season, probably the even more surprising aspect of Love's game, IMO, has been his ability to consistently knock down the 3-pt shots. Now he's become a blend of both Blair and Bonner - a beast on the boards, as well as a stretch-4.

That said, I could see the Spurs giving both Blair and Splitter, but probably not Hill. If the Wolves wanted all three, then they'd better throw in Corey Brewer. Of course, I have no idea as to whether the salaries would match, and I'm too lazy to throw this possible scenario into the trade machine.

Acquiring Love, and they've seen enough of him this season,. would give them a frontline that could seriously challenge the Fakers. In fact, I don't see the Spurs getting out of the West unless they somehow upgrade their bigs. Still, it's hard to believe that the Spurs have given up on Splitter so soon.

[ChumpDumper]

Why is anyone treating this trade as a possibility?

[mingus]

i wouldn't include Hill in the trade unless the Spurs were getting Brewer in return. too many good perimiter players in the NBA to only roll with Manu, Neal, RJ, JA as the perimiter defenders. none of those guys can get after it like Hill does. Hill as a one on one defender is close to elite (although as has been pointed out many times he needs to work on defending guys who use screens -- Ray Allen and Kevin Martin have had their way with SA because of this), and he you can't just give that up for Love. all it'll do is fill one hole only to leave another one unfilled.

trade's not going to happen though. i can't imagine why Minny would want a guy whose knees are going to give out in 3 years max, an unproven center, and George Hill, who really is nothing more than a role player for a guy who's putting up 20-15, and a probable all-star for his whole career. just stupid. not happening.

[frodo]

This is the easiest forum in the world for trolling. It works every single time.

mono has been the only immigrant that has ever succeeded trolling someone on spurstalk, unfortunately you are way off that standard tbqh. u must have been called a "wannabe" a million times in the real life otherwise you wouldn't have even known that word imho.

[Budkin]

What makes anyone think the Wolves would give up their best player?

[gospursgojas]

Why is anyone treating this trade as a possibility?

[MaNu4Tres]

4 pages already-- :lol

C'mon man!

[phyzik]

Why is anyone treating this trade as a possibility?

This.

For one, the Spurs are already short a man for the league minimum, even with Anderson on the sidelines and set to come back.

Second... Spurs are 33-6. You dont do a panic trade with that kind of record.

Third.... the Rumor came from Bleacherreport.com

[Thomas82]

What makes anyone think the Wolves would give up their best player?

Maybe they know they'll lose him and they would rather get something for him than just lose him for nothing.

[crc21209]

Won't happen....end of story. Close thread...:lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If Minny want to trade Love they'd get a much better deal than this one, barring a Lakers-Jerry West type lovefest. Even Pop's committee wouldn't approve of this trade :)

That said, even though it's bullshit, it's funny how so many Spurs fans are hesitant to acquire a 20-15 big who shoots the 3 because of a 6'2 combo guard.

[The Btown Spur]

I mean Kahn is crazy but is he that crazy?...

[Russ]

Bad trade. :(

[SenorSpur]

If Minny want to trade Love they'd get a much better deal than this one, barring a Lakers-Jerry West type lovefest. Even Pop's committee wouldn't approve of this trade :)

That said, even though it's bullshit, it's funny how so many Spurs fans are hesitant to acquire a 20-15 big who shoots the 3 because of a 6'2 combo guard.

This possible trade scenario would be far-fetched, if it weren't for one thing - David Khan is the GM of the Wolves. For those that don't remember, this is the same GM who picked 3 PGs (Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn, Ty Lawson) in the first round of the 2009 NBA draft. He then turned around and took a similar approach in the first round of the 2010 NBA draft by stocking up on SFs (Wesley Johnson, Luke Babbitt, Trevor Booker).

Granted, he dealt away several of these players in various deals, but it's still a very unorthodox and even assinine way of drafting. The point being is that this guy is liable to do anything - like trade big for small. In fact, I could see him wanting a 1st round pick in any possible future trade scenario.

[SenorSpur]

I mean Kahn is crazy but is he that crazy?...

It's not like he's not done wacky shit before. See my earlier post on Genghis Khan.

[Hoops Czar]

It's not like he's not done wacky shit before. See my earlier post on Genghis Khan.

He traded away Al Jefferson because he wanted to keep Love. Now he wants to get rid of love? Besides, the Spurs NEVER make in season trades of this magnitude, why now? And Phyzic was right, bleacherreport was just throwing out a whole bunch of scenarios of teams that could use Love and those hammerheads on the radio got wind of it. This rumor has no legs.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/569090-nba-trade-rumors-10-potential-fits-for-kevin-love-outside-of-minnesota

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This possible trade scenario would be far-fetched, if it weren't for one thing - David Khan is the GM of the Wolves. For those that don't remember, this is the same GM who picked 3 PGs (Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn, Ty Lawson) in the first round of the 2009 NBA draft. He then turned around and took a similar approach in the first round of the 2010 NBA draft by stocking up on SFs (Wesley Johnson, Luke Babbitt, Trevor Booker).

Granted, he dealt away several of these players in various deals, but it's still a very unorthodox and even assinine way of drafting. The point being is that this guy is liable to do anything - like trade big for small. In fact, I could see him wanting a 1st round pick in any possible future trade scenario.

Sure, but even KAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHN! isn't so stupid as to trade away the player his franchise is building around. And the ownership would veto it. There is nothing to this idea.

[phyzik]

http://www.the-games-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/khan.jpg

[TheSpursFNRule]

this will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever everever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever happen.

[TheSpursFNRule]

this will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever everever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever happen.

:flag:

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

This possible trade scenario would be far-fetched, if it weren't for one thing - David Khan is the GM of the Wolves. For those that don't remember, this is the same GM who picked 3 PGs (Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn, Ty Lawson) in the first round of the 2009 NBA draft. He then turned around and took a similar approach in the first round of the 2010 NBA draft by stocking up on SFs (Wesley Johnson, Luke Babbitt, Trevor Booker).

Granted, he dealt away several of these players in various deals, but it's still a very unorthodox and even assinine way of drafting. The point being is that this guy is liable to do anything - like trade big for small. In fact, I could see him wanting a 1st round pick in any possible future trade scenario.

The Spurs would easily throw a couple of 1st round picks if a similar deal is on the table, but even if Khan is that stupid, there must be someone above him with half a brain to stop him.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The Spurs would easily throw a couple of 1st round picks if a similar deal is on the table, but even if Khan is that stupid, there must be someone above him with half a brain to stop him.


Sure, but even KAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHN! isn't so stupid as to trade away the player his franchise is building around. And the ownership would veto it. There is nothing to this idea.

[mountainballer]

a Love trade could and must bring back at least a top 3 pick, or a top 3 talent.
even Kahn knows that.

[vander]

I would trade Blair, Splitter, and as many first round picks as minny wants for Love

[8FOR!3]

Tony Parker - Chris Quinn
Manu Ginobili - Gary Neal
Richard Jefferson - James Anderson
Tim Duncan - Antonio McDyess - Matt Bonner
Kevin Love

Then you'd have to sign a big, because it'd only give us four. And we'd have to sign 1-2 guards depending on whether you think Chris Quinn is capable of a backup role or not. We're better off in this situation sticking with what we've got. Take away our best perimeter defender and replace him with Chris Quinn and your team's D is going to get a lot worse. Kevin Love doesn't defend either, but then again neither does Blair.

[Bukefal]

lol will not happen.

But since he entered the NBA I always wanted Love to be a Spur, that would be awesome :king

[Mel_13]

Funny thread on at least 2 counts.

1. 5 pages based on a fantasy trade started on bleacher report and picked up on local talk radio.

2. So many posters that would hesitate or not make the trade at all.

[mountainballer]

damn, that was started by Bleacherreport? a trade idea on ST started by one of our under 20 posts members usually has more legs.

and yes, always again surprised about the potential of this board to overrate the value of Spurs players and underrate all others.
just waiting on the poster who claims he would only do it, if the Wolves trow in Rubio.
(and consequently Kill_Bill_forever to jump in and explain to us that even that trade he wouldn't do, b/c Rubio is more overrated than Splitter)

[Fireball]

Funny thread. We all know that mid-season trades are not the way of the Spurs (just look at the "success" the Mavs had doing this).

We are 33-6 ... I want them to win it with this group of players!

[benefactor]

Funny thread on at least 2 counts.

1. 5 pages based on a fantasy trade started on bleacher report and picked up on local talk radio.

Are forgetting where we are, my friend? :)


2. So many posters that would hesitate or not make the trade at all.
Spurs fans are a sentimental bunch...which makes them overvalue certain players. Most of us know that if Minny actually contacted the Spurs with this it would be done in a heartbeat.

[timtonymanurich]

George is our Kobe-stopper. Dude ain't afraid of the fading star that is Kobe da Brat. I'd LOVE to have K-Love on Spurs Roster, but NOT at the expense of George Hill. NU-UH!!

[hater]

bullshit.

no way. Kevin Love?

dream on

[gospursgojas]

Has this trade happened yet?

[xmas1997]

Huge rumor if there ever was one!
IMHO giving up our best perimeter defender would be a grave risk.
Also giving up Tiago before he is even integrated into the system would be a mistake as I think he will prove to eventually be a better player than Love in the long run.
But it's just a rumor and a far-fetched one at that.

[Bito Corleone]

lol at people who wouldn't be willing to give up Hill for Love...

[urunobili]

mmmm Tiago would become a player at the same level of Kevin Love overtime. Me not likes

[hater]

mmmm Tiago would become a player at the same level of Kevin Love overtime. Me not likes

:lmao

what??? (i hope you are sarcastic)

[mountainballer]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/569090-nba-trade-rumors-10-potential-fits-for-kevin-love-outside-of-minnesota

that's where this all comes from. a (bad bad) article about ten places where the author thinks Love would fit. including 10 trade scenarios. some are even more ridiculous than the "Spurs trade". seems as if the author doesn't even have basic knowledge about trade rules. however, considering how many posters wouldn't give up Hill for Love, he might still find his peers.

[coyotes_geek]

Also giving up Tiago before he is even integrated into the system would be a mistake as I think he will prove to eventually be a better player than Love in the long run.

I like Tiago as much as the next guy and think he'll be a fine player for us one day, but he's never going to be someone who can put up 21 & 15 on a nightly basis while shooting 40+% from 3pt.

[Bito Corleone]

mmmm Tiago would become a player at the same level of Kevin Love overtime. Me not likes

:rolleyes :bang


I like Tiago as much as the next guy and think he'll be a fine player for us one day, but he's never going to be someone who can put up 21 & 16 on a nightly basis while shooting 40+% from 3pt.

This! Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely delusional.

[Spurs Brazil]

Funny thread on at least 2 counts.

1. 5 pages based on a fantasy trade started on bleacher report and picked up on local talk radio.

2. So many posters that would hesitate or not make the trade at all.

True :lol

[lazerelmo]

It would leave us with a 10 man roster. I'm cool with that... not sure how the NBA would feel about it.

[lefty]

This thread would make sense if you replaced "Spurs" with "Lakers"

[quentin_compson]

Won't happen, and yeah, any team would do such a trade in a heartbeat. Still, the Spurs' interior defense would take a turn for the worse.

[K-State Spur]

It's actually an interesting hypothetical, because I don't think it's a slam dunk from either perspective.

Typically, I am a firm believer that whoever gets the single best player in a deal "wins" the trade. But you also have to take into account that one of the Spurs' greatest strengths this year has been depth, and that would take a major hit by losing Hill. The nice thing about the depth right now is that anything we get from Anderson upon his return is gravy - the team doesn't really need him to make a playoff run as is. But if you remove Hill, then you NEED production out of rookie who has spent most of his first season on the training table.

You also have to take into account that Love is terrible defensively - Amare/Boozer level of bad. He's still a net positive player, but that takes a lot of shine off efficiency stats.

Also note that Hollinger sees the trading as netting the Spurs -10 wins. I know, I know - LOL @ Hollinger, but still...

At the end of the day - I think the Spurs would do this and the T-Pups would NOT. But I don't think it's as clear cut either way as many make out.

[DJB]

Hahahahahaha, no way the Wolves would EVER trade Kevin Love right now.

[jjktkk]

Has this trade happened yet?

Weather delay in Minnesota. Maybe tommorrow.

[dunkman]

The Spurs would dismantle the roster for a franchise player only.

This team could win a championship, and the trade would jeopardize that. Blair has a season with the Spurs, Love would be completely new, it would force the Spurs to play with Duncan / Bice and Bonner all the season.

And it's not clear that Love would bring another championship after Duncan and Manu retire.

Hill is the best perimeter stopper the Spurs actually have and the sixth man. Anderson may be good, but he's still a rookie, Manu would have to return to the bench, which would bring problems for the guard oriented offense the Spurs actually use.

There would be too many problems.

The Spurs can matchup fine with the Lakers bigs, they could last season, more so this season with the addition of Splitter and with Blar and Dice in their second season.

[cheguevara]

:lol

what the fuck are you motherfuckers smoking???

seriously this is like dumb and dumber. First the ones that think Minnesota would even consider that trade, and then the ones that would say no to that trade, and then the ones that start comparing Splitter to Love :rollin

[egtonecity]

It's actually an interesting hypothetical, because I don't think it's a slam dunk from either perspective.

Typically, I am a firm believer that whoever gets the single best player in a deal "wins" the trade. But you also have to take into account that one of the Spurs' greatest strengths this year has been depth, and that would take a major hit by losing Hill. The nice thing about the depth right now is that anything we get from Anderson upon his return is gravy - the team doesn't really need him to make a playoff run as is. But if you remove Hill, then you NEED production out of rookie who has spent most of his first season on the training table.

You also have to take into account that Love is terrible defensively - Amare/Boozer level of bad. He's still a net positive player, but that takes a lot of shine off efficiency stats.

Also note that Hollinger sees the trading as netting the Spurs -10 wins. I know, I know - LOL @ Hollinger, but still...

At the end of the day - I think the Spurs would do this and the T-Pups would NOT. But I don't think it's as clear cut either way as many make out.

Pretty sure that part is wrong ... its -10 for the wolves and +5 for the spurs.

Either way, Spurs would do this in a heartbeat. Trading the express lube stars for Kevin Love would be a no brainer. I didnt mention Tiago because he really doesnt exist. lol.

[xmas1997]

Has this trade happened yet?

Yes, it happened (in some peoples' delusional minds only)
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Check back tomorrow after the weather clears and minds are saner.

[NASpurs]

Is this like the Wilson Chandler trade rumor thread where it was like 10 pages of pure bullshit and speculations? Lay off the pipe.

[K-State Spur]

Pretty sure that part is wrong ... its -10 for the wolves and +5 for the spurs.

Either way, Spurs would do this in a heartbeat. Trading the express lube stars for Kevin Love would be a no brainer. I didnt mention Tiago because he really doesnt exist. lol.

You are correct - damn, ignore most of my post then :bang

[cornbread]

My sources in the front office tell me this trade is legit and will be executed by the end of the day.

Chow.

[temujin]

Love will be traded to LA.
Wolves will get Marc Gasol.
Memphis will get Smith and future considerations.

[I. Hustle]

My sources say Lebrons talents are being traded to south Tex

[mathbzh]

My sources say Lebrons talents are being traded to south Tex

:nope
Pop put a veto on this because Bonner was involved in the trade.

[Supergirl]

i'd give up Blair/Splitter for him but Georgie's the deal breaker.

Agreed. Hill is our best defender for guards. Blair and Splitter would be missed but Love would more than make up for them.

[CubanMustGo]

:nope
Pop put a veto on this because Bonner was involved in the trade.

:lol :toast

[cheguevara]

:nope
pop put a veto on this because bonner was involved in the trade.

lmfao

[Brazil]

:lmao Hill's the deal breaker :lmao yeah right :rolleyes


you can package quite everything for K Love, even with TP involved I'm pretty sure wolves would say no in a heartbeat

[Supergirl]

:lmao Hill's the deal breaker :lmao yeah right :rolleyes


you can package quite everything for K Love, even with TP involved I'm pretty sure wolves would say no in a heartbeat

Well, I don't think this deal will happen, but the TWolves having to trade Love for about as much as they could get out of this trade is not all that unlikely. He's reportedly unhappy there and may threaten to walk when he can and leave them with nothing.

[SenorSpur]

The Spurs would dismantle the roster for a franchise player only.

This team could win a championship, and the trade would jeopardize that. Blair has a season with the Spurs, Love would be completely new, it would force the Spurs to play with Duncan / Bice and Bonner all the season.

And it's not clear that Love would bring another championship after Duncan and Manu retire.

Hill is the best perimeter stopper the Spurs actually have and the sixth man. Anderson may be good, but he's still a rookie, Manu would have to return to the bench, which would bring problems for the guard oriented offense the Spurs actually use.

There would be too many problems.

The Spurs can matchup fine with the Lakers bigs, they could last season, more so this season with the addition of Splitter and with Blar and Dice in their second season.

:nope

[Josepatches_]

Hill? No,thanks.

Build around Kevin Love? Yes,we can see how good are the Wolves. A great franchise player

Blair had 2 20/20 games last year too.He could average 15/10 in Minnesota
Obviously Love is better than Blair but he's a bit overrated.
And Splitter is a good player.He was as good as Marc Gasol was in Spain.And a lot better than Serge Ibaka for example,

Love for Blair+Splitter ? Ok

But Hill....we need him now.I think Gary Neal is overrated in this forum.I saw him in the spanish league and he was a role player.He was waived.
Right now He's playing well but....
Only Manu/Tony in the backcourt is a big risk.Chris Quinn is a joke.

[Russ]

The Spurs would dismantle the roster for a franchise player only.

This team could win a championship, and the trade would jeopardize that. Blair has a season with the Spurs, Love would be completely new, it would force the Spurs to play with Duncan / Bice and Bonner all the season.

And it's not clear that Love would bring another championship after Duncan and Manu retire.

Hill is the best perimeter stopper the Spurs actually have and the sixth man. Anderson may be good, but he's still a rookie, Manu would have to return to the bench, which would bring problems for the guard oriented offense the Spurs actually use.

There would be too many problems.

The Spurs can matchup fine with the Lakers bigs, they could last season, more so this season with the addition of Splitter and with Blar and Dice in their second season.

Love is not a franchise player. No big man whose team has a 9-30 record is a franchise player. That is an impossibility based upon NBA history. (Nor would any top big have a .459 field goal percentage, regardless of three point attempts.)

As far as matching up with the Lakers goes, Love's 0.3 blocks per game would likely not help much. (Even Bonner blocks more shots/game.)

[greyforest]

Spurs aren't going to trade anyone jackasses, they are 33-6.

[rr2418]

LOL at all the GM's posting here on this forum.

[DMC]

Kevin Love is not KG, he's not Shaq and he's not Pau Gasol. Kobe and Pau were getting their teams to the playoffs without each other. Shaq was as well as KG were doing the same things. Love cannot get his team to .500 even with Michael Beasley and a pretty good PG.

No mid season trade that I can recall that didn't include the above listed people has ever produced anything significant. I am talking about modern era, since Jordan.

Show me that Kevin Love can propel his team to even a playoff spot, make his teammates better and do more than what Blair could do in his rookie season minus the jumper and maybe I would think more of it.

Hell, actually I don't even know which of those were mid season, maybe only Pau... not sure when he joined the Lake show.

[EricB]

I would say I'm shocked this made it 6 pages. but again, this is Spurstalk.

[mingus]

Show me that Kevin Love can propel his team to even a playoff spot,make his teammates better and do more than what Blair could do in his rookie season minus the jumper and maybe I would think more of it.

Kevin Love is so much better than Blair, you'd have to be on crack to not realize that.

[Hoops Czar]

Kevin Love is not KG, he's not Shaq and he's not Pau Gasol. Kobe and Pau were getting their teams to the playoffs without each other. Shaq was as well as KG were doing the same things. Love cannot get his team to .500 even with Michael Beasley and a pretty good PG.


In case you haven't noticed, the game has changed since the Jordan era. Dirk hasn't propelled Dallas to a championship; Kobe didn't win one minus Shaq or Pau; D. Howard never one one; Blake Griffen's Clipp's are sporting a losing record. The bottom line is Love makes his team better and that's with or without the overrated services of Beasley. If Love came to the Spurs, he would most definitely improve their chances of winning a championship. K. Love doesn't have to be the man at age 22 and he wouldn't be if he dawned a Spurs uniform.

[The Btown Spur]

I dont believe any source that this trade has even been considered by either team. But hypothetically this is a great trade for the spurs in terms that they get a player that is a great rebounder and post player down low. He may never reach the level that Timmy was at. but then again who will? probably no one. Blair is a hustler that is a great role player, but he will never be a franchise player or anyone that a team can build around. if he were 3 to 6 inches taller he would be easily but the fact is he isnt. another reason i doubt this trade will ever happen is i doubt the spurs have given up on tiago. I know that he has only played in basically scrub time, but the whole spur community was excited to finally get him over, and im hoping hes better next year. With all this said. I would gladly give up both tiago and Blair for Kevin Love, just based on this season. Giving up George Hill would be tough for a lot of reasons starting with hes a great defensive stopper following that he is a great spark off the bench, but in the long term (especially cause Timmy is getting old and Love is pretty young) doing this trade wound be a good move, in the short term im not so sure.

Plus i doubt this trade is actually a real possibility cause i dont think kahn is really that insane. I honestly think this wont happen, although i think the spurs would love to get their hands on kevin love.

[Mel_13]

In case you haven't noticed, the game has changed since the Jordan era. Dirk hasn't propelled Dallas to a championship; Kobe didn't win one minus Shaq or Pau; D. Howard never one one; Blake Griffen's Clipp's are sporting a losing record. The bottom line is Love makes his team better and that's with or without the overrated services of Beasley. If Love came to the Spurs, he would most definitely improve their chances of winning a championship. K. Love doesn't have to be the man at age 22 and he wouldn't be if he dawned a Spurs uniform.

donned

[DrSteffo]

Kevin Love is a beast and a franchise player. Only someone who doesn't watch games would disagree. Minnesota should get better offers though.

[howbouthemspurs]

now thats a stupid idea!

[PM5K]

BS thread but if I had the chance I'd do it. I'd hate to loose Hill but it's harder to find good big men than good guards.

[angelbelow]

Love is not a franchise player. No big man whose team has a 9-30 record is a franchise player. That is an impossibility based upon NBA history. (Nor would any top big have a .459 field goal percentage, regardless of three point attempts.)

As far as matching up with the Lakers goes, Love's 0.3 blocks per game would likely not help much. (Even Bonner blocks more shots/game.)

So Blake Griffin doesn't qualify as a franchise player?

If there was any truth to this rumor, the spurs would not be interested in Love for his blocks, or lack thereof.

[UnWantedTheory]

Kevin Love is not KG, he's not Shaq and he's not Pau Gasol. Kobe and Pau were getting their teams to the playoffs without each other. Shaq was as well as KG were doing the same things. Love cannot get his team to .500 even with Michael Beasley and a pretty good PG.

No mid season trade that I can recall that didn't include the above listed people has ever produced anything significant. I am talking about modern era, since Jordan.

Show me that Kevin Love can propel his team to even a playoff spot, make his teammates better and do more than what Blair could do in his rookie season minus the jumper and maybe I would think more of it.

Hell, actually I don't even know which of those were mid season, maybe only Pau... not sure when he joined the Lake show.
Sorry bro., but your intent here is just crazy talk.

[tuncaboylu]

I would say I'm shocked this made it 6 pages. but again, this is Spurstalk.

Try 7.

[Rummpd]

Lets go for 8 . . . Lots of Love and all that.

[xmas1997]

If it were for Blake Griffin, you pull the trigger, but not Love.

[UnWantedTheory]

If it were for Blake Griffin, you pull the trigger, but not Love.
I would enjoy a 3 page explanation as to why you feel this way.

[rr2418]

Try 7.

That's what a forum is for, to discuss ALL topics! No matter if you disagree with the topic.


PEACE :)

[024]

kevin love is an all star big... come on guys. the starting five with love will just rape every team out there.