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HarlemHeat37
01-13-2011, 01:19 AM
Whatever you think about WikiLeaks oddball Julian Assange, it’s wrong that he’s under investigation for sex crimes in Sweden. Not because what he’s accused of aren’t “real” crimes, as some have argued, but simply because it’s just as wrong to prosecute Assange as it was wrong not to prosecute Kobe Bryant.

Put another way, it’s about time we prosecuted offenders based on the harm done to women’s bodies, regardless of whether the prosecution might be good or bad for business (or politics or sports, etc.).

Rape law will never protect all women so long as it works better or worse based on who the man is – rather than what he did.

The allegations themselves, assuming they’re true, seem appropriate enough for prosecution. The two women involved described behavior that, while not the most serious of sexual offenses, still constitutes criminal activity in most countries – including the United States. One said she was asleep when the assault occurred. If a person is asleep they can’t give “knowing, intelligent and voluntary” consent and it’s a crime to touch them.

The other woman said she agreed to start a certain activity with Assange, but that he didn’t stop when she told him to. Again, the law in most jurisdictions provides that even after consent is given, if one person changes their mind it’s a crime for the other one to continue.

It might be hard to stop once the proverbial train is out of the station, but too bad. You can be angry but you can’t keep going.

Seems unfair but think about it this way. If I invite you into my home for one hour, and a half hour later I change my mind and ask you to leave, you gotta go – because it’s my house! And if it’s my body – you should go sooner because bodies are more important than houses.

For these reasons, Assange can be prosecuted simply because he violated two women’s fundamental right to personal autonomy and bodily integrity.

But just because charges are viable doesn’t mean we should ignore the fact that they appear designed to advance an unrelated political agenda, namely, punishing the guy for leaking sensitive government files.

It’s hardly a coincidence that Swedish authorities declined to prosecute when the charges were first reported last summer – and only went wild looking for the guy all over the planet after the big WikiLeaks moment last month.

In short, if Assange were any other guy, he would not be under investigation for sexual assault.

When prosecutors use the public’s money to pursue a sexual assault case as a pretext for some other agenda, people become cynical and mistrustful of the rule of law. And worse, it makes all rape laws seem trite; designed not to compel respect for women’s bodily integrity but rather to facilitate punishment for unrelated reasons.

In another context, I might support the charges simply to get the message out that rape law in this country routinely fails to protect women’s personal autonomy. For example, in almost every state, rape requires proof not only of nonconsent but also “force.” This makes no sense. If you take my stuff without my consent, it’s called larceny. If you also use force, it’s called robbery. But if you take my bodily integrity without my consent, it’s not a crime at all, unless you also use force.

Aren’t women more valuable than stuff?

In another context, I would fight hard to persuade the Swedes to prosecute Julian Assange simply because women’s bodily integrity matters. But flexing that muscle in this case will do nothing to promote the value of bodily integrity.

In another context, I would relish the opportunity to use this case as a teachable moment – to explain why the things Julian Assange is accused of are serious offenses even though the women consented to some of his actions.

In this context, I’m hoping Assange isn’t prosecuted. The fact that two women in Sweden might achieve justice is not worth the harm that all women suffer when the value of bodily integrity is measured by the political benefits of prosecuting the man who took it.

Good read..what do you guys think about this?..

http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/opinions_columnists/x1442458465/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-go-after-Assange-and-give-Kobe-a-free-pass

ElNono
01-13-2011, 01:22 AM
:lol Harlem been piling up material to distract from the eventual Heat loss

Killakobe81
01-13-2011, 01:28 AM
:lol Harlem been piling up material to distract from the eventual Heat loss

LOL Good call Elnono ...is this dude still a Spur fan? Harlem with the mis-direction play-action fake ... ROFL

namlook
01-13-2011, 01:50 AM
Such an appropriate article for an NBA forum on a night Karma bites the Heat.

DJ Mbenga
01-13-2011, 02:48 AM
i can provide you good porn links if you are hurting harlem. just pm, dont resort to this crap.

Trainwreck2100
01-13-2011, 03:22 AM
Good read..what do you guys think about this?..

http://www.patriotledger.com/opinions/opinions_columnists/x1442458465/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-go-after-Assange-and-give-Kobe-a-free-pass

someone needs to tell this bitch they didn't drop the kobe case till after the accuser filed a civil claim

Bito Corleone
01-13-2011, 01:44 PM
someone needs to tell this bitch they didn't drop the kobe case till after the accuser filed a civil claim

And that that gold-digging whore had 3 different guy's jizz on her underwear when they did the rape kit.

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2011, 03:31 PM
Actually, she picked up an old pair of panties by accident, which she hadn't washed yet..that explains the semen..people always like to leave that important part out..

cheguevara
01-13-2011, 03:32 PM
KOBErapedperiod

vy65
01-13-2011, 03:40 PM
Lol reach of an analogy
Lol angry about rape because you're too ugly to get laid
Lol dirty panties
Lol rape

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Lol reach of an analogy
Lol angry about rape because you're too ugly to get laid
Lol dirty panties
Lol rape

She has the right to express her opinion, tbh..I'm actually pretty impressed that she has the balls to say something like this..

vy65
01-13-2011, 03:50 PM
. . . she has the balls ...

If you can't beat them, join them

Killakobe81
01-13-2011, 04:01 PM
Actually, she picked up an old pair of panties by accident, which she hadn't washed yet..that explains the semen..people always like to leave that important part out..

that actually makes her story worse not better ... the reason charges werent filed was she was no where near credible ...(Kobe's so called victim) so she wore old dirty panties with other people's semen she picked up by accident?! You buy that? Wow the chicks must have a field day (if you still in to chicks) Harlem. i hear the last one was mad you asked them to wear that Lebron jersey and handband the other night ... LOL

It's all good though you still one of the best posters on here ...

ElNono
01-13-2011, 04:03 PM
tbh, I'm waiting for an article written by Shaq with the same title as this one where the main topic is snitching...

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 04:05 PM
tbh, I'm waiting for an article written by Shaq with the same title as this one where the main topic is snitching...

The kicker?

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

Killakobe81
01-13-2011, 04:07 PM
tbh, I'm waiting for an article written by Shaq with the same title as this one where the main topic is snitching...

Only legit critique of Kobe (besides shot selection) TBH ...
though not a huge fan of shaq Kobe broke several man laws ...

ElNono
01-13-2011, 04:09 PM
The kicker?

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

????

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 04:12 PM
????

Kobe snitched on Daddy, yet he managed to switch places with Daddy this past June and Daddy ended up eatin' balloon knot.

LakerHater
01-13-2011, 04:14 PM
It was dropped by prosecutors after Faber refused to testify in the trial.
The Cival suit was settled with the specific terms of the settlement being undisclosed to the public.

ElNono
01-13-2011, 04:14 PM
Kobe snitched on Daddy, yet he managed to switch places with Daddy this past June and Daddy ended up eatin' balloon knot.

What?

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2011, 04:15 PM
Kobe snitched on Daddy, yet he managed to switch places with Daddy this past June and Daddy ended up eatin' balloon knot.

Harlem: 1..
Culb: 0 & forever..

You know what I'm referring to..

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 04:15 PM
Harlem: 1..
Culb: 0 & forever..

You know what I'm referring to..

When you advised me that buyin' time share was gay?

Don'tCallMeBubbles
01-13-2011, 04:18 PM
If it weren't for narcotics and sleep, this chimp would be shit-out-of-luck.........

Killakobe81
01-13-2011, 04:21 PM
It was dropped by prosecutors after Faber refused to testify in the trial.
The Cival suit was settled with the specific terms of the settlement being undisclosed to the public.

Case was flimsy regrdless DA just wanted the headlines ... but believe whatever you want. I dont buy that rape stuff but cully lets yu hav it as long as he gets to crucify Neal the same ...
Again I was raised that men don't snitch and I pretty sure it's not condoned in italy either ...something about "OMERTA" ...

Don'tCallMeBubbles
01-13-2011, 04:26 PM
Kobe's boner slipped.

Nothing to see here..........

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 04:27 PM
Case was flimsy regrdless DA just wanted the headlines ... but believe whatever you want. I dont buy that rape stuff but cully lets yu hav it as long as he gets to crucify Neal the same ...
Again I was raised that men don't snitch and I pretty sure it's not condoned in italy either ...something about "OMERTA" ...

I always believed Kobe raped. Even before Neal went to San Antonio.

Kobe should have never ratted out Daddy like that, A. And B., the cops should have never ratted out Kobe to Daddy. That was an act of vengeance.

Even then a simple, heartfelt apology from Kobe to Daddy for the rat would have probably been enough to satiate Daddy. But, Kobe is incapable of admitting fault (see him quitting in the Phoenix series).

LakerHater
01-13-2011, 04:27 PM
Case was flimsy regrdless DA just wanted the headlines ... but believe whatever you want. I dont buy that rape stuff but cully lets yu hav it as long as he gets to crucify Neal the same ...
Again I was raised that men don't snitch and I pretty sure it's not condoned in italy either ...something about "OMERTA" ...

YUP, its a code in Campania!
This is why I dont get KoMe snitching out Shaq.....

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 04:31 PM
YUP, its a code in Campania!
This is why I dont get KoMe snitching out Shaq.....

It makes perfect sense knowing what we do of Kobe:::he's childish, impulsive, shortsighted. He immediately panicked and thru Daddy under the bus hoping that it would derail the investigation if only for five f'in' minutes. It served him immediately, but, was potentially catastrophic to Daddy. Kobe knew this instinctively, but, could have cared less. It was a dastardly act, compounded to the ninth degree by a police department incapable of decency, and bent on their own revenge. Basically people acting like f'ing animals.

ElNono
01-13-2011, 04:32 PM
Kobe snitchedPERIOD

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 04:33 PM
Kobe snitchedPERIOD

I bear my cross in public.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

vy65
01-13-2011, 04:59 PM
Tbh cull should go for the time share ... It'd be like a real life combo of Leisure Suit Larry, Golden girls and an AMBER alert imho

Giuseppe
01-13-2011, 05:01 PM
Tbh cull should go for the time share ... It'd be like a real life combo of Leisure Suit Larry, Golden girls and an AMBER alert imho

Well, if DoK ever returns I'll certainly give it pause.