In what the media used to call a bipartisan...

[Yonivore]

...vote, the U. S. House of Representatives has voted to repeal Obamacare, 245-189 (3 Democrats joining the ayes).

House passes health law repeal (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47831.html)


House Republicans passed a bill to repeal President Barack Obama’s health care plan Wednesday, taking their first major step toward rolling back the massive overhaul that has dominated the American political landscape for almost two years.

The vote was 245 to 189, and unanimous GOP support gave the vote the same partisan feel of the March vote to pass the law, underscoring once again the hardened political lines of the health care debate. Only three Democrats backed the repeal, a smaller number than Republicans had once predicted.
Used to be, all it took was one Republican to cross the aisle and, presto, zingo, it was bipartisan.

Oh, well, let's see what the Democrat Senators from purple-turning-red states, looking at a 2012 election, have to say.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm surprised so few democrats voted YES. How many are trying to exempt their states from certain aspects of the bill?

[boutons_deux]

Pure dog-and-pony theatrical, substance-free politics, saturated with Repug exaggeration and lies.

Repugs know that it will fail in the Senate, never arriving in the WH, where it would be vetoed fatally.

Where are the Repug Congressional proposals to get the economy moving again? The economy is why the Dems lost.

I expect the Repugs will block any attempts to solve the jobs and housing crisis, so they can blame the next two years of Banksters Great Depression on the Dems.

[fraga]

Where are the Repug Congressional proposals to get the economy moving again?

[BlairForceDejuan]

It all starts with Bipartisanship. It's great to see our Government working together.

[Bartleby]

This will really shake things up in DC

[Yonivore]

I think the liberals forget that an overwhelming majority of Americans want this piece of shit repealed.

We'll soon see if the Democrat Senators remember. In 2012, the Democrats have double the number of seats to retain as Republicans. And, if they remember what happened to their Democrat partners in the House, this year, you have to wonder how man Senators are married to Obamacare. You can bet your ass they're getting an earful from their constituents...night and day, day and night.

And, even if (or, especially if) the Senate doesn't pass the repeal bill onto the President, the drumbeat of constituent demands for it to be repealed will only grow.

Then, keep in mind, the House is getting ready to set about defunding and thwarting implementation of the bill at every turn. Beginning with investigating the administration illegal funneling of government funds to promote this God-awful piece of legislation.

Call it symbolic, if you will. But the House of Representatives just did what they were sent their to do. It's why Obama and his party got a shellacking in the 2010 mid-terms.

The Democrat Senate and Obama can either realize they are acting against the will of the people and defeat/veto repeal, facing the consequences in 2012, or; they can accede to the will of the people, realize they've made a grave mistake, pass the repeal and sign it into law.

Given that Obama has pretty much bailed on much of leftist rhetoric from the campaign (can we still say that?), I think its a toss-up as to what he will do if the bill gets through the Senate.

[boutons_deux]

"an overwhelming majority of Americans want this piece of shit repealed."

You Fucking Lie

"why Obama and his party got a shellacking in the 2010 mid-terms."

You Fucking Lie

[ElNono]

I think the liberals forget that an overwhelming majority of Americans want this piece of shit repealed.

Looks like not overwhelming enough to actually vote in enough people into Congress to repeal it.

[Yonivore]

Looks like not overwhelming enough to actually vote in enough people into Congress to repeal it.
2012 is right around the corner...keep telling yourself that. Democrats have to keep approx. 20 seats. Republicans, only 10.

Didn't they lose 7 this time?

Those 20 Democrat Senators will not be allowed to rest for the next two years.

[Nbadan]

All you have to do is look at the name of this bill to tell that this is yet another dog and pony show by House Republicans...If the GOP really wanted to save money they should just go home and close shop because they won't get nothing meaningful done until they lose in 2012...

[ElNono]

2012 is right around the corner...keep telling yourself that. Democrats have to keep approx. 20 seats. Republicans, only 10.

Didn't they lose 7 this time?

Those 20 Democrat Senators will not be allowed to rest for the next two years.

I'm not against getting rid of it. I also don't like to go back to the previous status quo. I'm eager to see what the GOP comes up with as an alternative.

That said, you would think that if it would have been such an overwhelming majority and it would have been such a hot ticket, the GOP would have taken control of the senate too. They obviously didn't.

We'll see in who's running two years from now and what this Congress looks like then. Two years is a long time, and now they're part of the system. It's a lot easier to bitch when you're outside.

[Nbadan]

the tea baggers didn't bring in any new GOP voters...it merely motivated a wing-nut base at a time when Progressives were unmotivated by Democrat status quo..

[Yonivore]

I'm not against getting rid of it. I also don't like to go back to the previous status quo. I'm eager to see what the GOP comes up with as an alternative.
Over 80% of Americans were happy with the health care they were receiving. I say, put it back like it was and work on the 20%.


That said, you would think that if it would have been such an overwhelming majority and it would have been such a hot ticket, the GOP would have taken control of the senate too. They obviously didn't.
It was the largest shift in power in generations. You're right, they didn't. But, like I said, there are 20+ Democrat Senators that have to face the same issues in 2012. That's more than 2010. The Republicans turned 7 this time, how many will fall in 2012?


We'll see in who's running two years from now and what this Congress looks like then. Two years is a long time, and now they're part of the system. It's a lot easier to bitch when you're outside.
Agreed. However, I don't expect the public will lose interest in fixing this mess.

[Nbadan]

lol tea baggers

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[ElNono]

Over 80% of Americans were happy with the health care they were receiving. I say, put it back like it was and work on the 20%.

That implies they were receiving care. Which means the happy Americans were less than 50% of the population. Or in other words, a minority.

The previous system was an aberration. As I said, I'm eager to see what the GOP comes up with to address the real problem: cost. This legislation didn't address it, so we'll see how the GOP wants to address that.


It was the largest shift in power in generations. You're right, they didn't. But, like I said, there are 20+ Democrat Senators that have to face the same issues in 2012. That's more than 2010. The Republicans turned 7 this time, how many will fall in 2012?

I personally think the shift in power had more to do with the economy in general than the healthcare legislation in particular. I'm willing to bet a lot less people would have given a shit if the economy was up and they weren't losing their jobs.
As far as the healthcare law in particular, you have to remember that most democrats were not happy with it either. They want a public option.


Agreed. However, I don't expect the public will lose interest in fixing this mess.

The public is a lot more selfish than what you think they are. If there's a swing up in the economy in the next couple of years, I don't foresee many changes. Again, we'll see what's the situation then and who runs too.

[Wild Cobra]

2012 is right around the corner...keep telling yourself that. Democrats have to keep approx. 20 seats. Republicans, only 10.

Didn't they lose 7 this time?

Those 20 Democrat Senators will not be allowed to rest for the next two years.

All senators up for election will have some real heat from people like me.

[Yonivore]

All senators up for election will have some real heat from people like me.
From a lot of people like us.

[Yonivore]

The list... 21 Democrats, 10 Republicans and 2 Independents that caucus with the Democrats. D>R (Democrat seat went Republican in 2010), R>D, D>D, R>R, NE (No election).

Since the race for Senator is now Statewide, I see a potential for 5 flips, if the States keep the same sentiments they had last year. And, with Conrad and Lieberman retiring, who knows, 7? Republicans only need 4 to flip the Chamber.

Arizona Jon Kyl Republican (R>R)
California Dianne Feinstein Democratic (D>D)
Connecticut Joe Lieberman Independent (D>D)
Delaware Tom Carper Democratic (D>D)
Florida Bill Nelson Democratic (R>R)*
Hawaii Daniel Akaka Democratic (D>D)
Indiana Richard Lugar Republican (D>R)*
Maine Olympia Snowe Republican (NE)
Maryland Ben Cardin Democratic (D>D)
Massachusetts Scott Brown Republican (NE)
Michigan Debbie Stabenow Democratic (NE)
Minnesota Amy Klobuchar Democratic (NE)
Mississippi Roger Wicker Republican (NE)
Missouri Claire McCaskill Democratic (R>R)*
Montana Jon Tester Democratic (NE)
Nebraska Ben Nelson Democratic (NE)
Nevada John Ensign Republican (D>D)
New Jersey Bob Menendez Democratic (NE)
New Mexico Jeff Bingaman Democratic (NE)
New York Kirsten Gillibrand Democratic (D>D)
North Dakota Kent Conrad Democratic (D>R)*
Ohio Sherrod Brown Democratic (R>R)
Pennsylvania Bob Casey, Jr. Democratic (D>R)*
Rhode Island Sheldon Whitehouse Democratic (NE)
Tennessee Bob Corker Republican (NE)
Texas Kay Bailey Hutchison Republican (NE)
Utah Orrin Hatch Republican (R>R)
Vermont Bernie Sanders Independent (D>D)
Virginia Jim Webb Democratic (NE)
Washington Maria Cantwell Democratic (D>D)
West Virginia Joe Manchin Democratic (D>D)
Wisconsin Herb Kohl Democratic (NE)
Wyoming John Barrasso Republican (NE)

Give 'em a call. Let them know what you thing about ObamaCare.

[sickdsm]

Over 80% of Americans were happy with the health care they were receiving. I say, put it back like it was and work on the 20%.

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Absolutely not, that's BS to even think that. I'm dropping 10k out of my pocket for Ins. for my wife and son, ALL GREAT HEALTH. Always have been. For a young couple I think that's mighty high. I'm guessing a large portion of that 20% are in fact ones that have to provide insurance for others. Large deductible and I pay a copay for a doc to tell me to see a specialist after a 30 second conversation?

I can also NEVER switch plans.


Much better healthcare to mooch off the govt. from my experience.


The Govt. rewards those who don't try and penalizes hard workers.

[DMX7]

Public Option.

[sickdsm]

I think you guys are fucking retarded that you need to say repug, or tea baggers.


That's as juvenile as dimocrap.

Its about the same as the moron at school saying fag to everyone. Grow up. Talk about lack of critical thought.