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djohn2oo8
01-21-2011, 04:43 PM
Re: NY radio report that DEN rejected Wilson, Landry, Eddy + pick: if Nugs interested in that, this would have been done a long time ago. 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/alanhahn/status/28566648000610304) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

http://twitter.com/alanhahn

:lol what a shit ass offer

history2b
01-21-2011, 04:45 PM
Re: NY radio report that DEN rejected Wilson, Landry, Eddy + pick: if Nugs interested in that, this would have been done a long time ago. 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/alanhahn/status/28566648000610304) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

http://twitter.com/alanhahn

:lol what a shit ass offer

I would think that's a pretty shitty deal for the Nugs. Gonna need at least 2 picks or another team.

Killakobe81
01-21-2011, 04:56 PM
Not a great offer but what did the Cavs get? Or toronto they basically did sign & trades and got next to nothing for Lebron and Bosh. I really like Landry Fields. Only problem is he is similar to Afflalo if he resigns ...denver would have two, pretty damn good 2 guards and could trade one to address another need.

But I dont see how Knicks could expect to get Melo without Gallinari in the deal ...

Xylus
01-21-2011, 04:59 PM
I don't think this is a shitty deal at all for the Nuggets. Chandler and Landry are studs, they're both young, Curry's expiring contract is huge, and they get a draft pick out of it. I'm curious to know what exactly the Nuggets want from the Knicks. Is it Danilo? Azubuike? The holdup can't be over Anthony Randolph--D'Antoni doesn't give the guy any minutes.

Xylus
01-21-2011, 05:00 PM
If it's Gallinari that the Nuggets really want, I can't see why the Knicks wouldn't make that deal.

vy65
01-21-2011, 05:02 PM
They want more 1st rounders

Killakobe81
01-21-2011, 05:03 PM
and i agree i dont think it's that bad a deal ...problem is unless Gallo makes huge strides they get no potential "star". Chandler cieling is a 3rd option and probably so ifs Fields on a title contender.

I think what the Nuggs should consider if melo walks and that cant dump Al H and/or chauncey they ned some cost effective talent back in return. Even with this current offer you could flip any combination of: Fields, Lawson, JR, Afflalo, chandler or even curry's expiring to make a susequent trade.

vy65
01-21-2011, 05:06 PM
I haven't really followed him much lately, but unless he's completely fallen off a cliff, I'd rather take a deal centered around Luol Deng from Chicago than I would Gallo + WC or LF.

Killakobe81
01-21-2011, 05:15 PM
I haven't really followed him much lately, but unless he's completely fallen off a cliff, I'd rather take a deal centered around Luol Deng from Chicago than I would Gallo + WC or LF.

he hasnt fallen off a cliff but he is more expensive and i dont trust dukies

ChrisRichards
01-21-2011, 05:18 PM
If this is true then its safe to say the Nuggets are pretty confident that other teams will offer a better package or they are bluffing to see if the Knicks will come up with a better offer.


Interesting.

DJ Mbenga
01-21-2011, 05:24 PM
thats not a bad deal at all. landry fields and chandler with the expring contract of curry and a future first rounder. thats about as good as it will get.

JamStone
01-21-2011, 05:35 PM
If the Knicks can come up with one more first round pick, I think the Nuggets might bite. Chandler has played really well this season. He's not a go-to scorer like Melo, but he brings a lot of other things to the table. He could end up being a really good starting small forward in the league. But maybe they'd prefer if he were locked up for a few more years for cheap. Probably should throw in Randolph for good measure too.

JamStone
01-21-2011, 05:36 PM
If this is true then its safe to say the Nuggets are pretty confident that other teams will offer a better package or they are bluffing to see if the Knicks will come up with a better offer.


Interesting.

Probably not considering no other team has as much assurance that they'd be able to get Melo to sign an extension. Maybe the Nuggets just don't want to trade him now and are trying to convince Melo to stay.

Xylus
01-21-2011, 05:42 PM
The Knicks really need to reconsider sending Landry Fields in this trade. He's the kind of player any team with playoff hopes needs on their team. Works harder than anyone on the court, is talented in all facets of the game. He's very much a Shane Battier or Jared Dudley type. Won't win games on their own, but makes big plays when the team needs it.

Gallo, Randolph, Chandler, Curry, and a pick for Anthony and maybe filler

lefty
01-21-2011, 05:44 PM
Crofl Nuggets

ALVAREZ6
01-21-2011, 05:49 PM
Re: NY radio report that DEN rejected Wilson, Landry, Eddy + pick: if Nugs interested in that, this would have been done a long time ago. 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/alanhahn/status/28566648000610304) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

http://twitter.com/alanhahn

:lol what a shit ass offer

That's not a bad offer at all given the circumstances.

Venti Quattro
01-21-2011, 05:52 PM
Pretty good deal and they passed it up. Now watch Melo walk out of Denver this off-season

djohn2oo8
01-21-2011, 06:05 PM
That's not a bad offer at all given the circumstances.

Galinari should be in that deal

ChrisRichards
01-21-2011, 06:07 PM
Probably not considering no other team has as much assurance that they'd be able to get Melo to sign an extension. Maybe the Nuggets just don't want to trade him now and are trying to convince Melo to stay.

He should stay with the Nuggets. They are in the better position to go further next season when most contending teams are going to slow down (Lakers, Spurs, Mavs). The Nuggets also have huge expirings in the form of Kenyon Martin ($16 mil) and JR SMith ($6 mil) and Chauncey Billups expires next season (13 mil), so they are not financially strapped to make some moves to improve its roster. I feel the Nuggets are a few pieces and a full health away from reaching the Finals.



That being said, I still think Melo will end up with the Nets or Knicks. Whatever sentimental reasons he has for staying with Denver probably ended the night Nuggets fans consistenyly booed him.

DMC
01-21-2011, 06:10 PM
As was already stated, it's about getting good 1st round picks that allow your team to have talent on the cheap. Sure there are decent midrange game players for a few million, but when you can get some serious talent for rookie pay... and get a few of them, that's pretty good.

ChrisRichards
01-21-2011, 06:27 PM
As was already stated, it's about getting good 1st round picks that allow your team to have talent on the cheap. Sure there are decent midrange game players for a few million, but when you can get some serious talent for rookie pay... and get a few of them, that's pretty good.
I think that's the bottom line for Denver. The rumored package before by the Nets which inlcudes draft picks from Detroit was just too good of a deal, I don't know what happened there but I'm sure the Nuggets execs are banging their head in the wall for failing to complete that trade. If greed was a huge part of it (insisting Al Harrington's contract) then they deserve this fallout.

DMC
01-21-2011, 06:28 PM
It's InDecision..... where's BPSN now?

Koolaid_Man
01-21-2011, 08:09 PM
Re: NY radio report that DEN rejected Wilson, Landry, Eddy + pick: if Nugs interested in that, this would have been done a long time ago. 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/alanhahn/status/28566648000610304) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

http://twitter.com/alanhahn

:lol what a shit ass offer

Nugs are fucked...and NY knows it...I want NY to stay pat...I think they have enough to upset Miami if they're healthy...next year Melo walks right into their arms...

Nug deserve everything their getting for thinking they could actually beat LA in a 7 game series...I say it's time for them to have a fire-sale...and we'll take that "Nigga Chauncy" off their hands...:lol

urunobili
01-21-2011, 08:58 PM
let the lowballin' begin... the Russian really fucked them...

JMarkJohns
01-21-2011, 09:03 PM
Gallinari/Randolph/Curry for Anthony. That's high risk, but high reward and Gallinari and Randolph were lottery picks. Each players per-36 averages bare out that they are worth the acquisition and worthiness of compensation considering the lateness of the trade.

Maybe throw in a future 1st for in-case measures...

DMX7
01-21-2011, 09:30 PM
Eddy in this deal is too funny. What a goddamn rip off.

HarlemHeat37
01-21-2011, 10:46 PM
I don't really see how this is as bad as some people are making it out to be..if the Nuggets are really expecting more than that, they won't get it..

Ill Will is a solid starter that still has potential to get even better, and Landry Fields is obviously a solid player with upside..adding to that, they get the 1st round pick that they want..I really don't see how Denver will get a better offer than that, and if they're really expecting better, they're delusional..

They probably think they can convince Anthony to re-up, that's the only logical explanation IMO..

TheSpurglar
01-21-2011, 11:42 PM
From what's been said about the Nuggets going back and forth on the terms of a deal with New Jersey, this is probably just more of the same.

But honestly, if I'm the Nuggets GM I probably don't make this trade either. Chandler is a good player, the Curry expiring has value, and you can always use a 1st round pick. But that's going to be a low pick once they get Melo. And how good is Landry Fields? I see people valuing him a bit like Courtney Lee was valued after the Orlando Magic went to the Finals. He's a good player, but how much of it is due to him playing in the system the Knicks run?

I'd hold out to see if the Knicks would be willing to part with a little more. Another pick, Randolph, or swap Fields for Danilo or whatever.

rayjayjohnson
01-22-2011, 12:07 AM
Why the fuck would the Denver front office be chasing gallinari? What a waste, substitute a high scori chucker with a lower scoring chucker. Great deal ujiri...

JMarkJohns
01-22-2011, 12:34 AM
Eddy in this deal is too funny. What a goddamn rip off.

You do know that Curry is an expiring contract, right?

DJ Mbenga
01-22-2011, 12:52 AM
i think maybe denver doesnt want chandler because he is a free agent this offseason albeit restricted. fields is much better than lee. guy gets 7 boards a game as a starting guard and plays solid defense. he plays like a veteran. almost like a battier. nothing special but he is just a good player.

TheSpurglar
01-22-2011, 01:06 AM
fields is much better than lee. guy gets 7 boards a game as a starting guard and plays solid defense. he plays like a veteran. almost like a battier. nothing special but he is just a good player.

Fields is better than Lee. I was really just comparing the way he's being hyped to how Lee was hyped after the Magic's Finals run. I think Fields is a nice asset, but Melo is perceived (whether accurately or not) as a franchise player. Fields, Chandler or Gallinari, an expiring contract and a draft pick ain't enough imho. Gotta try and get at least Randolph and/or another pick.

Rip-Hamilton32
01-22-2011, 01:47 AM
If im NY i'd rather give up Gallo then Chandler, Gallo is just going to score, doesn't rebound or defend as well as Chandler and who needs Gallo if your getting Melo back in return who does the same as Gallo but better

DJ Mbenga
01-22-2011, 01:52 AM
Fields is better than Lee. I was really just comparing the way he's being hyped to how Lee was hyped after the Magic's Finals run. I think Fields is a nice asset, but Melo is perceived (whether accurately or not) as a franchise player. Fields, Chandler or Gallinari, an expiring contract and a draft pick ain't enough imho. Gotta try and get at least Randolph and/or another pick.

they are gonna do randolph for a first rounder. but the nuggets are pretty much screwed.

NuGGeTs-FaN
01-22-2011, 02:10 AM
Nuggets can wait until the offseason and get a similar deal from NY. Melo ISNT going to walk. He will be signing the extension, plus NY can't sign him outright to a max contract, unless they renounce some of their other players and let Chandler walk (which they wont).

NY can lowball all they want, their players are shite (as is evident by there 22-20 record in the Leastern conference).

Melo will be the first to flinch in this game of chicken. He won't get NY unless the up the offer by including another team.

GuerillaBlack
01-22-2011, 09:45 AM
Nuggets can wait until the offseason and get a similar deal from NY. Melo ISNT going to walk. He will be signing the extension, plus NY can't sign him outright to a max contract, unless they renounce some of their other players and let Chandler walk (which they wont).

NY can lowball all they want, their players are shite (as is evident by there 22-20 record in the Leastern conference).

Melo will be the first to flinch in this game of chicken. He won't get NY unless the up the offer by including another team.

Which is when the Rockets come in and take the Melo rental. Then, if he decides to walk (most likely will, unless the CBA brings in new rules like a franchise tag), the Rockets can get players/picks in a SnT deal.

djohn2oo8
01-22-2011, 10:04 AM
Which is when the Rockets come in and take the Melo rental. Then, if he decides to walk (most likely will, unless the CBA brings in new rules like a franchise tag), the Rockets can get players/picks in a SnT deal.

Getting Melo will not fix Adelman's dumbass rotations

BG_Spurs_Fan
01-22-2011, 11:23 AM
Nuggets can wait until the offseason and get a similar deal from NY. Melo ISNT going to walk. He will be signing the extension, plus NY can't sign him outright to a max contract, unless they renounce some of their other players and let Chandler walk (which they wont).

NY can lowball all they want, their players are shite (as is evident by there 22-20 record in the Leastern conference).

Melo will be the first to flinch in this game of chicken. He won't get NY unless the up the offer by including another team.

Exactly. I don't see why Denver should accept this bullshit offer. I like it that they won't cave in just like that, they're putting the pressure on Melo, because to think he'll risk going into the summer and the lockout without a contract and without pay is ridiculous. Even if he's that dumb, his agents aren't. He has another year on his contract if he doesn't opt out and I believe if he's not traded by the TD, Denver fully expect him to either sign an extension with them or not opt out of his contract with the looming lockout.

Getting a few months rental of Chandler, who will be a FA and Landry Fields for Melo is way way too low. I like what Denver are doing.