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Koolaid_Man
01-24-2011, 09:17 PM
Do It Mitch!!! - D-Will Loves Kobe and he's always propping up LA...I think I'll take D-Will over CP3 at this time...plus he's not a toy poodle for Lebron like CP3...



"They know they’re going to be in the playoffs and they don’t really care if they get home court for the whole playoffs because they are confident in what they do.”

Managing a slight smile, Williams added, “I don’t think Phil’s really worried.”



http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/51112142-87/lakers-jazz-season-williams.html.csp

Pelicans78
01-24-2011, 09:23 PM
Leaving Utah would be the best way for D-Will to pass the Mavs in the standings.

#41 Shoot Em Up
01-24-2011, 09:24 PM
If D-Will leaves Utah he's coming home to the D.

ElNono
01-24-2011, 09:30 PM
If D-Will leaves Utah he's coming home to the D.

He would be a great replacement for Kidd, imo tbh

Koolaid_Man
01-24-2011, 09:48 PM
If D-Will leaves Utah he's coming home to the D.

I'm not so sure about that....Kobe and D-Will are boys...the line in the sand has been drawn...Lebron is for CP3 and Kobe is for D-Will...

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IronMexican
01-24-2011, 09:59 PM
Honestly, I think D-Will has a bigger crush on Kobe than Ron did.

#41 Shoot Em Up
01-24-2011, 10:00 PM
D Will would look good in purple and gold, can't deny that.
We'll see

DMC
01-24-2011, 10:02 PM
Jesus fucking christ, you are the same ass clowns who bitched about Lebron going to play with Wade, now you want some superstar PG to come bail out your shithole team. Hypocrisy knows no shame.

Juanobili
01-24-2011, 10:03 PM
Jesus fucking christ, you are the same ass clowns who bitched about Lebron going to play with Wade, now you want some superstar PG to come bail out your shithole team. Hypocrisy knows no shame.

:lobt:

Koolaid_Man
01-24-2011, 10:06 PM
Jesus fucking christ, you are the same ass clowns who bitched about Lebron going to play with Wade, now you want some superstar PG to come bail out your shithole team. Hypocrisy knows no shame.


hey elstupo...no one in the league is comparing D-Will to MJ or Kobe...no one his calling D-Will KING...no one his crowning D-Will the Savior of the league before he won a fucking thing...no one his playing NIKE Puppet commercials with D-Will and Kobe...So it's not the same...D-Will coming to LA is like Gasol going to LA...Lebron wanted to take something from Kobe that he hadn't yet earned so your silly argument falls on deaf ears...ok pussy ass Ho...

DMC
01-24-2011, 10:11 PM
hey elstupo...no one in the league is comparing D-Will to MJ or Kobe...no one his calling D-Will KING...no one his crowning D-Will the Savior of the league before he won a fucking thing...no one his playing NIKE Puppet commercials with D-Will and Kobe...So it's not the same...D-Will coming to LA is like Gasol going to LA...Lebron wanted to take something from Kobe that he hadn't yet earned so your silly argument falls on deaf ears...ok pussy ass Ho...

With that much "ya-but" yapping, I must have hit a "truth" nerve in that feeble brain of yours.

jmill
01-24-2011, 10:25 PM
Jesus fucking christ, you are the same ass clowns who bitched about Lebron going to play with Wade, now you want some superstar PG to come bail out your shithole team. Hypocrisy knows no shame.

Weird, to me it just looks like one Laker fan started a thread about a comment Deron Williams made and then pointed out he'd like to have Deron over Chris Paul.

Gold Tooth Carl
01-24-2011, 10:26 PM
Do It Mitch!!! - D-Will Loves Kobe and he's always propping up LA...I think I'll take D-Will over CP3 at this time...plus he's not a toy poodle for Lebron like CP3...





http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/51112142-87/lakers-jazz-season-williams.html.csp

Thats cute how you put that escort that you paid $800 to as your avatar. Told ya dumbass not to fall in love, she don't love you, she loves your life savings that you poured out

DMC
01-24-2011, 10:26 PM
Weird, to me it just looks like one Laker fan started a thread about a comment Deron Williams made and then pointed out he'd like to have Deron over Chris Paul.
That's funny, because to me it looks like no one fucking asked you.

DMC
01-24-2011, 10:27 PM
Thats cute how you put that escort that you paid $800 to as your avatar. Told ya dumbass not to fall in love, she don't love you, she loves your life savings that you poured out
His parent's life savings.

jjktkk
01-24-2011, 10:28 PM
His parent's life savings.

:lol

jmill
01-24-2011, 10:29 PM
That's funny, because to me it looks like no one fucking asked you.

I didn't say anything about anyone asking me. You seem frustrated though.

Must have touched a nerve.

Koolaid_Man
01-24-2011, 10:30 PM
I didn't say anything about anyone asking me. You seem frustrated though.

Must have touched a nerve.


yeah that tends to happen when.....:lol

either that Nigga is really midget night pulp or he's not getting any pussy...either way I guess he's not getting any pussy...:lol

silverblk mystix
01-24-2011, 10:30 PM
jesus fucking christ, you are the same ass clowns who bitched about lebron going to play with wade, now you want some superstar pg to come bail out your shithole team. Hypocrisy knows no shame.

+1,000,000

Koolaid_Man
01-24-2011, 10:32 PM
His parent's life savings.


I just take their working cash their life savings will come when they transition life...:lol

Venti Quattro
01-24-2011, 10:47 PM
Deron just laying the groundwork to be the next Lakers superstar guard, nothing to see here...

HarlemHeat37
01-24-2011, 10:54 PM
Deron Williams needs to worry about his own team, he needs to show some leadership..

Koolaid_Man
01-24-2011, 10:56 PM
Deron Williams needs to worry about his own team, he needs to show some leadership..


So does Harlem in Heat...:lol

Pelicans78
01-24-2011, 10:57 PM
D-Will has already mailed it in. He knows his 20+ ppg isn't enough to save this sinking ship.

Gold Tooth Carl
01-24-2011, 11:17 PM
D-Will has already mailed it in. He knows his 20+ ppg isn't enough to save this sinking ship.

lol 121-63
lol too embarrassed to openly support your team, so u claim to be a mavs fan

Pelicans78
01-25-2011, 12:09 AM
lol 121-63
lol too embarrassed to openly support your team, so u claim to be a mavs fan

LOL living in the past, just like your Warriors. Welcome to Oakland where nobody wins.

sribb43
01-25-2011, 12:33 AM
All the Lakers need to do is play the jazz in the playoffs and they will advance...with or without HCA

William Hung
01-25-2011, 01:03 AM
Funny how Laker fan thinks they can get any superstar in the league for peanuts just like that. Nobody wants to play with bone on bone and Gasoft anyways. Just sit back and enjoy the Spurs' domination of the league for the next few years.

ElNono
01-25-2011, 01:24 AM
^^^ Yellow Rocketfan with the goods, tbh

Ashy Larry
01-25-2011, 03:04 AM
Deron Williams is garbage .... Mitch would be a fool to trade for him. Utah would literally rob the Lakers if they traded cerebral Luke Walton, clutch shooting Derek Fisher and the experienced Theo Ratliff for Williams.

dimsah
01-25-2011, 03:17 AM
Do It Mitch!!! - D-Will Loves Kobe and he's always propping up LA...I think I'll take D-Will over CP3 at this time...plus he's not a toy poodle for Lebron like CP3...





http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/51112142-87/lakers-jazz-season-williams.html.csp


Who is that chick in your avatar?

jmill
01-25-2011, 04:58 AM
Funny how Laker fan thinks they can get any superstar in the league for peanuts just like that. Nobody wants to play with bone on bone and Gasoft anyways. Just sit back and enjoy the Spurs' domination of the league for the next few years.

Yea, no one wants to live in LA or play for the Lakers. Definitely one of the less desirable places to live or teams to play for in the NBA. LOL at Laker fans.

Chris
01-25-2011, 09:32 AM
Yea, no one wants to live in LA or play for the Lakers. Definitely one of the less desirable places to live or teams to play for in the NBA. LOL at Laker fans.

Yes, lol indeed. It's not difficult to ascertain that the Purple and Piss are on the decline. Kobe is a shadow of his former self. Pau will be the focal point for coaches since Kobe will no longer demand a double team. Undoubtedly his efficiency and production will wane. How many losing seasons before Phil takes his talents to South Beach to retire? His ego is to large to be a Larry Brown. If the Lakers don't get that blockbuster trade or free agent acquisition then they will rely on their scouts to draft quality players like every other team in the NBA. Mediocrity is in Laker fan's future and it will be bittersweet.

21_Blessings
01-25-2011, 09:35 AM
LO + Blake for Deron please

nkdlunch
01-25-2011, 09:36 AM
what has Deron won lately?

Killakobe81
01-25-2011, 09:49 AM
Yes, lol indeed. It's not difficult to ascertain that the Purple and Piss are on the decline. Kobe is a shadow of his former self. Pau will be the focal point for coaches since Kobe will no longer demand a double team. Undoubtedly his efficiency and production will wane. How many losing seasons before Phil takes his talents to South Beach to retire? His ego is to large to be a Larry Brown. If the Lakers don't get that blockbuster trade or free agent acquisition then they will rely on their scouts to draft quality players like every other team in the NBA. Mediocrity is in Laker fan's future and it will be bittersweet.


LOL. Our decline may last a while ...(the 90's were rough). But let's put this in perspective our worst decade still had 1 NBA finals appearance and we missed the playoffs once or twice (IIRC).

Your best decade the 2000's netted the spurs 3 titles (4 if you squeeze 99). Outside of that the spurs have accomplished what in NBA history?

even if you erase the best decade in franchise history the Lakers would still have more titles than anyone but the Celtics. the point? We may struggle in the post Kobe era, but it won't be for forvever. Franchises like the Yankees, Lakers, Celtics, steelers, Red wings, ManU, etc they dont stay down too long. Kobe is a great Laker but we have have had great players before him and will still get them after him.

jmill
01-25-2011, 10:01 AM
Yes, lol indeed. It's not difficult to ascertain that the Purple and Piss are on the decline. Kobe is a shadow of his former self. Pau will be the focal point for coaches since Kobe will no longer demand a double team. Undoubtedly his efficiency and production will wane. How many losing seasons before Phil takes his talents to South Beach to retire? His ego is to large to be a Larry Brown. If the Lakers don't get that blockbuster trade or free agent acquisition then they will rely on their scouts to draft quality players like every other team in the NBA. Mediocrity is in Laker fan's future and it will be bittersweet.

No doubt man, we're on the same page. Small market, horrible location with regards to where guys want to live/play, an owner who doesn't care about the team, and a team with no history behind it at all. I'd bet on contraction within 5 years, while the Spurs will have 5 more championships by that time. Sucks for the Lakers and their fans. LOL at those morans.

Chris
01-25-2011, 10:03 AM
LOL. Our decline may last a while ...(the 90's were rough). But let's put this in perspective our worst decade still had 1 NBA finals appearance and we missed the playoffs once or twice (IIRC).

Your best decade the 2000's netted the spurs 3 titles (4 if you squeeze 99). Outside of that the spurs have accomplished what in NBA history?

even if you erase the best decade in franchise history the Lakers would still have more titles than anyone but the Celtics. the point? We may struggle in the post Kobe era, but it won't be for forvever. Franchises like the Yankees, Lakers, Celtics, steelers, Red wings, ManU, etc they dont stay down too long. Kobe is a great Laker but we have have had great players before him and will still get them after him.

Solid take and point taken. The Spurs had their glory years and it was fun while it lasted. Most of us are hoping to squeeze one more title run before Duncan's wheels fall off. It's frustrating seeing teams like the Yankees, Lakers always getting these elite players while we have to get lucky in the draft to have any hope of competing with the league. Money, endorsements, fame, media hype etc..None of these things come with signing to a small market team. Having said that, I will enjoy the decline for the Lakers, however long it lasts.

Chris
01-25-2011, 10:09 AM
No doubt man, we're on the same page. Small market, horrible location with regards to where guys want to live/play, an owner who doesn't care about the team, and a team with no history behind it at all. I'd bet on contraction within 5 years, while the Spurs will have 5 more championships by that time. Sucks for the Lakers and their fans. LOL at those morans.

:rolleyes

jmill
01-25-2011, 10:28 AM
:rolleyes

Indeed.

redzero
01-25-2011, 10:59 AM
what has Deron won lately?

The hearts of Lakers fans everywhere.

urunobili
01-25-2011, 11:03 AM
D-Will in DFW would be scary...

ChrisRichards
01-25-2011, 11:23 AM
HCA is not necessary for the Lakers when facing any WC foes.



In the Finals however, HCA is a huge advantage especially if the Lakers are going against the Heat or worst the Celtics. I've always thought winning at Boston for any team is extremely tough. Lebron, had problems in this arena, so did Dwight and Kobe.


In the past 20 years I think 98% of all NBA championship teams had HCA. For the past 2 decade there are only 2 championships teams that didn't had HCA. Miami in 2006 and Detroit in 2004.

bostonguy
01-25-2011, 11:51 AM
HCA is not necessary for the Lakers when facing any WC foes.



In the Finals however, HCA is a huge advantage especially if the Lakers are going against the Heat or worst the Celtics. I've always thought winning at Boston for any team is extremely tough. Lebron, had problems in this arena, so did Dwight and Kobe.


In the past 20 years I think 98% of all NBA championship teams had HCA. For the past 2 decade there are only 2 championships teams that didn't had HCA. Miami in 2006 and Detroit in 2004.


93 Bulls, 95 Rockets, 98 Bulls

history2b
01-25-2011, 12:12 PM
Do It Mitch!!! - D-Will Loves Kobe and he's always propping up LA...I think I'll take D-Will over CP3 at this time...plus he's not a toy poodle for Lebron like CP3...





http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/51112142-87/lakers-jazz-season-williams.html.csp


Haha, don't tease a brother like that man!

DWill is the perfect PG for the Lakers. Dude belongs in the purple and gold.

ChrisRichards
01-25-2011, 12:32 PM
93 Bulls, 95 Rockets, 98 Bulls
Thanks. I knew there were 2 more, but off the top of my head Miami and Detroit stood out.

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 04:28 PM
:lol so many superstars from opposing teams are fervent Laker nuthuggers, I just don't understand why. Deron Williams. Kevin Love has made similar comments citing the Lakers as some unbeatable juggernaut despite early struggles. David Lee, same.

The Celtics were a game away from being the defending champions, and yet they don't get nearly as much "status induced" praise as they probably should. Moreover, they are just flat out better equipped to win the championship this year. They have an elite point guard. They have a dominant front court. Their bench is a shit load deeper.

I just can't fathom why the Celtics are so "under the radar" as far as NBA players are concerned.

The media gives the Celtics their appropriate due, for the most part. But players around the league don't seem to fear them as much as they probably should. I just don't get it.

history2b
01-25-2011, 04:32 PM
:lol so many superstars from opposing teams are fervent Laker nuthuggers, I just don't understand why. Deron Williams. Kevin Love has made similar comments citing the Lakers as some unbeatable juggernaut despite early struggles. David Lee, same.

The Celtics were a game away from being the defending champions, and yet they don't get nearly as much "status induced" praise as they probably should. Moreover, they are just flat out better equipped to win the championship this year. They have an elite point guard. They have a dominant front court. Their bench is a shit load deeper.

I just can't fathom why the Celtics are so "under the radar" as far as NBA players are concerned.

The media gives the Celtics their appropriate due, for the most part. But players around the league don't seem to fear them as much as they probably should. I just don't get it.


Because they didn't win dumbshit.

You can go on and on and on about how close a team was to winning, how much better equipped you *think* they are now or whatever, but it all still boils down to that scoreboard at the end of Game 7.

And this isn't exclusive to the 2010 Lakers/Celtics... history always honors the winner, not the team that was oh-so-close.

HarlemHeat37
01-25-2011, 04:35 PM
:lol history2b posting more, now that Pulp is gone for a month..

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 04:40 PM
Because they didn't win dumbshit.

You can go on and on and on about how close a team was to winning, how much better equipped you *think* they are now or whatever, but it all still boils down to that scoreboard at the end of Game 7.

And this isn't exclusive to the 2010 Lakers/Celtics... history always honors the winner, not the team that was oh-so-close.

Not relevant to my point.

history2b
01-25-2011, 04:42 PM
:lol history2b posting more, now that Pulp is gone for a month..

:lmao

Killakobe81
01-25-2011, 04:45 PM
History has a point ...

1. how close was the Blazers in Game 7 (2000 vs. Lakers) That team was Staaaacked but they never got any closer ...

2. The mavs from going up 3-0 in in the Finals?

3. The spurs from repeating the same year?

4. The pistons from going to the Finals when ... "bird STEALS IT. BIRD STOLE THE BALL!!!

5. How about the Sacto Kings? IF Robert Horry doesnt hit that 3 Lakers first 3 peat never happens ...

All that we were THIS close ...don't mean shit. Only the pistons in the examples I gave, came back the Two years later to win shit ... (fixed)

history2b
01-25-2011, 04:45 PM
Not relevant to my point.

Of course it is. But you already admitted "don't understand why."

Obviously a logical explanation isn't going to connect with you since something else in your brain is inhibiting the understanding.

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 04:47 PM
Of course it is. But you already admitted "don't understand why."

Obviously a logical explanation isn't going to connect with you since something else in your brain is inhibiting the understanding.

:lol @ this guy raging.

history2b
01-25-2011, 04:48 PM
History has a point ...

1. how close was the Blazers in Game 7 (2000 vs. Lakers) That team was Staaaacked but they never got any closer ...

2. The mavs from going up 3-0 in in the Finals?

3. The spurs from repeating the same year?

4. The pistons from going to the Finals when ... "bird STEALS IT. BIRD STOLE THE BALL!!!

5. How about the Sacto Kings? IF Robert Horry doesnt hit that 3 Lakers first 3 peat never happens ...

All that we were THIS close ...don't mean shit. Only the pistons in the examples I gave, came back the next year to win shit ...


And on and on and on....

2005 Pistons were a shot away from beating the Spurs... they MUST have won the 2006 Finals right?

Suns got pretty close a couple of times, surely everyone must have respected them and not the actual winners...

Dude just doesn't "understand" because as a Spurs fanboy he doesn't see what the actual people out there competing see... I wonder whose perspective is closer.

history2b
01-25-2011, 04:50 PM
:lol @ this guy raging.


Actually I'm :lmao at yet another Spurs fan who only sees the world through silver and black goggles with Duncan jizz fogging up the lenses. :lmao:lmao:lmao

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 04:53 PM
Actually I'm :lmao at yet another Spurs fan who only sees the world through silver and black goggles with Duncan jizz fogging up the lenses. :lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao holy shit this guy is raging I love it :lol. Too fucking easy. Keep going this is entertaining :toast

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 04:55 PM
Any takers for over/under on this "inhibiting the understanding" mother fucker's I.Q. :lol

"Inhibiting the understanding" .....

:lmao

z0sa
01-25-2011, 04:57 PM
:lmao holy shit this guy is raging I love it :lol. Too fucking easy. Keep going this is entertaining :toast

:lol it's truly like clockwork with h2b and lakerfan in general.

history2b
01-25-2011, 05:02 PM
:lmao holy shit this guy is raging I love it :lol. Too fucking easy. Keep going this is entertaining :toast


:lmao @ thinking this is raging.

I picked on you specifically because I can see you take yourself and your thoughts very seriously. You don't understand why this is so and I'm just here to let you know it's because you are a Spurs fanboy.

You have to understand that NBA players out there aren't nerdy fanboys posting on Spurstalk.

history2b
01-25-2011, 05:04 PM
:lol it's truly like clockwork with h2b and lakerfan in general.


Says the fish that bites the hook more often than Tony Parker palms the ball.

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 05:05 PM
:lmao @ thinking this is raging.

I picked on you specifically because I can see you take yourself and your thoughts very seriously. You don't understand why this is so and I'm just here to let you know it's because you are a Spurs fanboy.

You have to understand that NBA players out there aren't nerdy fanboys posting on Spurstalk.

:lmao this guy is just seething

Fucker would probably give anything to take a swing at me right now :rollin

history2b
01-25-2011, 05:10 PM
:lmao this guy is just seething

Fucker would probably give anything to take a swing at me right now :rollin


For what? Accurately peggin you as another delusional Spurs fanboy?

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Killakobe81
01-25-2011, 05:44 PM
Solid take and point taken. The Spurs had their glory years and it was fun while it lasted. Most of us are hoping to squeeze one more title run before Duncan's wheels fall off. It's frustrating seeing teams like the Yankees, Lakers always getting these elite players while we have to get lucky in the draft to have any hope of competing with the league. Money, endorsements, fame, media hype etc..None of these things come with signing to a small market team. Having said that, I will enjoy the decline for the Lakers, however long it lasts.

I can respect all of that and i dont balme you for wanting to kick dirt onthe Lakers ...i feel the same about Duke, the yanks and Celts ...

Spurs run has been pretty amazing they have been the Patriots of the NBA or the Pats are the spurs of the NBA ...

jestersmash
01-25-2011, 08:45 PM
For what? Accurately peggin you as another delusional Spurs fanboy?

:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lol typical beta male response.

ElNono
01-25-2011, 09:02 PM
:lmao this guy is just seething

Fucker would probably give anything to take a swing at me right now :rollin


http://files.sharenator.com/FUUUU_RE_FFFFFUUUU_Pizza-s508x387-44250.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao