To those of you saying Hornets have "no bench", do you even bother looking at facts?

[BRHornet45]

sons I could understand is this was 2007-08 whenever we truly had one of the worst bench's in the NBA, but have any of you even bothered looking at the stats and the facts? offensively speaking they are nothing to brag about by any means, but defensively they are easily in the top 2 or 3. whenever our bench is in teams struggle to score and last time I checked, defensive is far more important than offense.

- 2nd in overall defense

- 2nd in free throw percentage

- 9th in turnovers

- 13th in 3pt percentage

[DMC]

"To those of you saying Hornets have "no bench", do you even bother looking at facts?"

NO

[BRHornet45]

"To those of you saying Hornets have "no bench", do you even bother looking at facts?"

NO


says the person who still believes his childhood hero Timmy D is still an elite player.

[BanditHiro]

the hornets have no bench...

[Dr. Gonzo]

I don't think NBA teams use benches anymore. They use chairs. So technically the Hornets do not have a bench. That is a fact.

[ElNono]

Hornets currently ranked as the 3rd best defense, according to NBA.com...

That said, it's been inconsistent... like when the Wolves dropped 113 on them. :lol

[jestersmash]

Yes.

Bench rating -- 2010-11 (through Wednesday's games)
Team Rate
Toronto 14.24
Denver 13.89
Philadelphia 13.59
San Antonio 13.37
Houston 13.37
Dallas 13.33
L.A. Lakers 13.32
Detroit 13.27
Orlando 13.13
Sacramento 13.01
Oklahoma City 12.98
Phoenix 12.85
Cleveland 12.58
Charlotte 12.37
Chicago 12.24
Washington 12.18
New York 12.10
Milwaukee 11.90
Atlanta 11.55
Memphis 11.29
Boston 11.27
Indiana 11.17
Portland 11.14
Utah 11.11
Golden State 10.96
New Jersey 10.50
Minnesota 10.49
L.A. Clippers 10.46
Miami 10.30
New Orleans 10.14

<Insert excuses for poor benches by a number of non-Hornets teams>

...

"But no such argument exists for the lowly Hornets.

It seems ironic now, but the bench was a big plus in the team's 8-0 start. It has done shockingly little of note since then, however. The Hornets, as I wrote on Thursday, have only three players with a PER above 12. That they rank 30th in bench rating, even though they've hardly had any injuries, offers a shocking portent of what might happen if a few ankles twist the wrong way. The starting five have played every game thus far, because the understudies look decidedly unready.

Hornets fans will argue that they at least get a little D from subs Jarrett Jack, Willie Green and Jason Smith, but the Clippers, Heat and Wolves (especially when Corey Brewer plays) can make similar arguments. Additionally, the plus/minus numbers buttress my argument. The Hornets have been horrific any time Chris Paul or David West leaves the floor.

Amazingly, New Orleans could make the playoffs anyway, thanks to Paul's league-leading PER and one of West's best seasons. Having good starters will always matter a lot more than having a strong second unit, which is why the Hornets will win more games than the Raptors this year.

Nonetheless, a good bench can make quite a bit of difference at the margins. San Antonio, for instance, has the best record in the league and looks like a title threat, but the Hornets are likely one-and-done in the postseason. Do the math, and the benches explain most of the difference."


Next.

[Darth_Pelican]

Maybe Toronto should start their bench players and they would start winning more games

[jestersmash]

If it's any consolation, I actually predicted Miami's bench to be far and away the worst just based on my own subjective observations.

I was also surprised to see Boston ranked so low. They've always been the poster boy for "deep" teams among the NBA's elite.

[sefant77]

Lets see what the bench does in the playoffs....if they will be in the playoffs.

So whats their backup bigmen fighting Spurs/Lakers/Mavs/Jazz in a series?

[Pelicans78]

The bench will improve as Thornton and Pondexter are starting to get consistent minutes.

The starting 5 has not started every game this season.

[Pelicans78]

Lets see what the bench does in the playoffs....if they will be in the playoffs.

So whats their backup bigmen fighting Spurs/Lakers/Mavs/Jazz in a series?

How good are the Spurs and Jazz backup bigmen?

[Dr. Gonzo]

How good are the Spurs and Jazz backup bigmen?

Splitter is the greatest bench player since Vinnie Johnson.

[LakerHater]

Yes!

Bench rating -- 2010-11 (through Wednesday's games)
Team Rate
Toronto 14.24
Denver 13.89
Philadelphia 13.59
San Antonio 13.37
Houston 13.37
Dallas 13.33
L.A. Lakers 13.32
Detroit 13.27
Orlando 13.13
Sacramento 13.01
Oklahoma City 12.98
Phoenix 12.85
Cleveland 12.58
Charlotte 12.37
Chicago 12.24
Washington 12.18
New York 12.10
Milwaukee 11.90
Atlanta 11.55
Memphis 11.29
Boston 11.27
Indiana 11.17
Portland 11.14
Utah 11.11
Golden State 10.96
New Jersey 10.50
Minnesota 10.49
L.A. Clippers 10.46
Miami 10.30
New Orleans 10.14

[weebo]

Hornets? fucking irrelevant team lol

[DJ Mbenga]

son, has your winning streak been a product of the benching of the great white hope bellinelli?

[BlackSwordsMan]

Nigga just got feed some facts and put to bed.

[crc21209]

Is it really necessary to start up a fucking troll thread every single day? Wow....too much time on your hands BR...

[TE]

::Sigh:: BR, congrats on your favorite team's recent success.


Oh how the mighty fall after they get brought back down to earth.

[jjktkk]

Damn, Br got hit with facts, and hes nowhere to be found on here. WTF?

[LnGrrrR]

If it's any consolation, I actually predicted Miami's bench to be far and away the worst just based on my own subjective observations.

I was also surprised to see Boston ranked so low. They've always been the poster boy for "deep" teams among the NBA's elite.

One reason might be due to all the injuries. A few of our backups have had to play starter mins, which skews th stats slightly.

[BRHornet45]

LMAO at ANYONE who takes the "ratings" seriously! the fact of the matter remains that the Hornets bench is arguably the best in the NBA ... def. top 3

[jjktkk]

LMAO at ANYONE who takes the "ratings" seriously! the fact of the matter remains that the Hornets bench is arguably the best in the NBA ... def. top 3

But were suppose to take your goofy ass serious? Lol, good 1.

[HarlemHeat37]

One reason might be due to all the injuries. A few of our backups have had to play starter mins, which skews th stats slightly.

Miami has been missing their 2 best bench players for virtually the entire season..the Celtics can now slide Shaq over to the bench, and they will eventually add West to the bench..

Both teams will have good enough benches in the playoffs..

[rayjayjohnson]

Nuggets bench shits on whole league

[sefant77]

Evolution shits on JR Smith

[frodo]

says the person who changes his avatar more often than his underwear (stinky chink)

[frodo]

LMAO at ANYONE who takes the "ratings" seriously! the fact of the matter remains that the Hornets bench is arguably the best in the NBA ... def. top 3

Hornets bench ain't dat best said in all seriousness. Just take CP3 off your squad and your team would be weaker than Wizards, Nets... teams of that caliber

[Giuseppe]

Just take CP3 off your squad and your team would be weaker than Wizards, Nets... teams of that caliber

Or, leave CP3 on his squad and schedule 'em Vs. the Lakers. You couldn't drag a straight outta his ass with a 20 mule team at that point.

[Bito Corleone]

have any of you even bothered looking at the stats and the facts?


LMAO at ANYONE who takes the "ratings" seriously! the fact of the matter remains that the Hornets bench is arguably the best in the NBA ... def. top 3

[Leetonidas]

Hornets bench is garbage. I guarantee you no contending team would trade their bench for that shit, except maybe the Heat since they don't have one.

[ChrisRichards]

Hornets bench is garbage. I guarantee you no contending team would trade their bench for that shit, except maybe the Heat since they don't have one.
Heat bench is better than the Hornets.

[Leetonidas]

Hence the "maybe."

[DMC]

says the person who still believes his childhood hero Timmy D is still an elite player.
Prove that.

[Pelicans78]

Heat bench is better than the Hornets.

No its not. Stop fooling yourself.

[TE]

LMAO at ANYONE who takes the "ratings" seriously! the fact of the matter remains that the Hornets bench is arguably the best in the NBA ... def. top 3
Lol trolling yourself, the lol @ taking "ratings" seriously when you use the same statistical verification intentions to exhibit Tim Duncan's major decline.


Fail, just fail. Fail, fail, fail, fail.

[TE]

lol Hornets78 caring so much for his former team, hopping back on board ehh?

[Pelicans78]

lol Hornets78 caring so much for his former team, hopping back on board ehh?

Not really. Just stating the obvious.

[DMC]

Not really. Just stating the obvious.
*coughcoughbullshitcoughcough*

[Seventyniner]

Bench rating is a decent measure, but in the playoffs you go 8, maaaybe 9 deep.

[DMC]

Bench rating is a decent measure, but in the playoffs you go 8, maaaybe 9 deep.
Most of these clowns have never been more than 3 deep, by default.