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duncan228
01-26-2011, 12:20 AM
For those that have been asking. Hit the link for more pics.

adidas Big Fundamental - Tim Duncan Signature Shoe (http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/adidas-Big-Fundamental-Tim-Duncan-Signature-Shoe/)
Brandon Richard

Quiet. All business. Performance. These are three attributes that have helped shape the legendary career of Tim Duncan. Undoubtedly one of the greatest players to ever suit up in the NBA, "Timmay" still manages to creep into underrated territory due to a lack of flare, highlight reel plays and easily-references media quotables. However, the hardware doesn't lie, and Tim has a lot of bling and trophies to account for.

Those three attributes also describe Duncan's latest signature shoe, the Big Fundamental by adidas. While Derrick Rose and Dwight Howard have gotten the promotional backing from adidas, Duncan's shoe has silently made its way to retailers at a more affordable price. The Big Fundamental features a synthetic upper, EVA midsole, molded TPU 3-D bubble 3-Stripes and foam pillars for extra cushioning.

The Big Fundamental is currently available in three colorways, including a Black/White/Silver look you've probably seen him wear on the court this year. You can find the shoe at Shop adidas (http://www.shopadidas.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4477296) and other retailers for $70.

http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/adidas-Big-Fundamental-Tim-Duncan-Signature-Shoe/

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/temp%20duncan%202/adidas30.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/temp%20duncan%202/adidas35.jpg

Cessation
01-26-2011, 12:24 AM
Nice.

spurs1990
01-26-2011, 12:28 AM
Are you kidding me Timmy Duncan has his own shoe??!?

I don't know whats more awesome, that or the fact it's only 70 bucks.

I wonder if he's worn the red or blue versions in a game.

Definitely will get a pair.

koriwhat
01-26-2011, 12:28 AM
looks like i'll be shoe shoppin' soon! thanks 228 for the heads up.

TE
01-26-2011, 12:31 AM
I owe you 228......

Dinner? :toast

duncan228
01-26-2011, 12:36 AM
Are you kidding me Timmy Duncan has his own shoe??!?

He's had lots of shoes over the years, first with Nike and with adidas the last several years.


I wonder if he's worn the red or blue versions in a game.

He's worn the gray/silver ones and the black ones so far this season.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/shoes/10-3-1035.jpg

TDfan2007
01-26-2011, 12:40 AM
I bought a pair of the black ones when I went to the NBA store in New York. They're amazing (especially for $30). Good find 228.

crc21209
01-26-2011, 12:44 AM
Nice. Gonna have to get me a pair of these...:tu

TE
01-26-2011, 12:50 AM
They look damn good

spurs1990
01-26-2011, 12:51 AM
He's had lots of shoes over the years, first with Nike and with adidas the last several years.



He's worn the gray/silver ones and the black ones so far this season.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/shoes/10-3-1035.jpg


Wow those gray/silvers are sweet.

If anyone see's those online pls post the link!

Only wish the shoe had a TD centric logo, maybe a ball bouncing off the backboard. lol

DesignatedT
01-26-2011, 12:56 AM
where do i buy those bad boys?

duncan228
01-26-2011, 12:58 AM
where do i buy those bad boys?

adidas. Might be worth pricing around too.

http://www.shopadidas.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4477296

duncan228
01-26-2011, 01:00 AM
Wow those gray/silvers are sweet.

If anyone see's those online pls post the link!

Those aren't for sale, at least not yet. They're player only, like the Skeleton ones he wore last Halloween.

DesignatedT
01-26-2011, 01:00 AM
:tu

DesignatedT
01-26-2011, 01:00 AM
the skeleton ones were so awesome, i wish those would have went on sale.

Brutalis
01-26-2011, 01:03 AM
I have these TD shoes:

http://adus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pADIDAS1-8692979dt.jpg

Dunno what year they are from though.

DesignatedT
01-26-2011, 01:04 AM
^Those are good lookin

DesignatedT
01-26-2011, 01:06 AM
http://www.academyprintwear.com/Blog%20Images/SC-Timmy2.jpg

http://www.academyprintwear.com/Blog%20Images/SC-Timmy5.jpg

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__41/ept_sports_nba_experts-636379505-1260468190.jpg?ymevsVCDdharvWOW

Brutalis
01-26-2011, 01:08 AM
^Those are good lookin

Yeah I'm strictly a Nike guy until it comes to shoes. I try to get TD shoes and if I can't find them in-store I go with Nike ones. I don't buy shoes online, had a bad experience.

spurs1990
01-26-2011, 02:19 AM
I have these TD shoes:

http://adus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pADIDAS1-8692979dt.jpg

Dunno what year they are from though.

Wow those are the coolest Adidas I've seen.

Check the shoe tag for the manufacture date. That should help figure out the release year.

Mark in Austin
01-26-2011, 03:12 AM
looks like adidas is only selling the black ones online right now. wish they had an inverted set that had the black and white parts switched so it was a mainly white shoe with black/silver/grey trim.

koriwhat
01-26-2011, 03:18 AM
i got shit for how "plain" and "boring" and "cheap" my older duncan's were a week ago here at ST by luva and his butt crew... hahaha! lets see what those chumps have to say about these, my prediction is they'll say the same shit cause they like gay flashy colors.

i'm getting those shoes 228 first posted! gotta! there's no if ands or buts about it.

i really like the all black ones brutalis posted as well. might cop me some of those too. thanks for posting those brutalis!

Frenzy
01-26-2011, 03:19 AM
I don't even like high tops (if that's what they call them still) but those look sweet!

koriwhat
01-26-2011, 03:20 AM
I don't even like high tops (if that's what they call them still) but those look sweet!

i love high tops but you still get a :tu from me

Brutalis
01-26-2011, 03:28 AM
Wow those are the coolest Adidas I've seen.

Check the shoe tag for the manufacture date. That should help figure out the release year.

Thanks I'll check that out.


i really like the all black ones brutalis posted as well. might cop me some of those too. thanks for posting those brutalis!

Yep yep.

benefactor
01-26-2011, 06:50 AM
I have these TD shoes:

http://adus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pADIDAS1-8692979dt.jpg

Dunno what year they are from though.
I believe those are the Commander Lites from last year. I have the same ones but they look like this:

http://img3.prosperent.com/images/250x250/www.paragonsports.com/images/medium/3-g09057_blacksilverwht_pd.jpg

Bukefal
01-26-2011, 07:07 AM
Sweet shoes! Simple, but awesome


http://www.allthehotkicks.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/6cc6f_adidas-duncan-ts-1.jpg

I like these too

E-RockWill
01-26-2011, 10:06 AM
Are you kidding me Timmy Duncan has his own shoe??!?


:lol

...says the one who just crawled out from under a rock.....

Brutalis
01-26-2011, 11:09 AM
I believe those are the Commander Lites from last year. I have the same ones but they look like this:

http://img3.prosperent.com/images/250x250/www.paragonsports.com/images/medium/3-g09057_blacksilverwht_pd.jpg

Those are from the year before that I believe. Not 100% sure on that.

I almost bought those online before I got the others, but having such a bad experience buying shoes online I never pulled that trigger.

Creation88
01-26-2011, 11:30 AM
i'm a big sneaker head and got lucky enough to acquire a Skeleton pair through a friend. the Big Fundamental shoes are nice but not sure if i'm feeling them enough to cop. the price tag is tempting though.

howbouthemspurs
01-26-2011, 11:34 AM
Those look pretty nice! time to go shopping! Hope they have them here in NM.

Brutalis
01-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Those look pretty nice! time to go shopping! Hope they have them here in NM.

Most places can order them for you like Foot Locker, Hibbet Sports, and Champs.

Rummpd
01-26-2011, 12:33 PM
I spent over a 100 for my son for his bball season on some butt ugly Nike's and wish these had been out, but I will get a pair for myself. $70 is almost reasonable!

crc21209
01-26-2011, 03:56 PM
I believe those are the Commander Lites from last year. I have the same ones but they look like this:

http://img3.prosperent.com/images/250x250/www.paragonsports.com/images/medium/3-g09057_blacksilverwht_pd.jpg

I have those same shoes also. :tu I really like the ones Brutalis posted that he has though...

silverblk mystix
01-26-2011, 05:34 PM
pretty sweet...

if they make a low cut black/silver...I'll get those

DMC
01-26-2011, 06:58 PM
Wonder if Shaq gets royalties.

duncan228
01-26-2011, 07:36 PM
Wonder if Shaq gets royalties.

:lol

JR21
01-26-2011, 09:59 PM
Yo thanks for posting this up. Definately getting all 3. Let us know if the Grey ones ever come out for purchase. I'l definately be getting those too...

Brutalis
01-26-2011, 11:44 PM
Brutalis, what is the name of those? or more importantly, where can I get them? ebay has nothing.

Currently I'm in the process of moving and when I dig them out I'll check the Adidas box and let you know. You can PM me if you want so I don't forget cause I might.

Sisk
01-27-2011, 03:27 AM
i'm a big sneaker head and got lucky enough to acquire a Skeleton pair through a friend. the Big Fundamental shoes are nice but not sure if i'm feeling them enough to cop. the price tag is tempting though.

That's awesome. I love those shoes more than any basketball shoe out there.

007nites
01-27-2011, 03:48 AM
Those shoes look sharp

ALVAREZ6
01-27-2011, 01:19 PM
I have these TD shoes:

http://adus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pADIDAS1-8692979dt.jpg

Dunno what year they are from though.

they're not TDs

ALVAREZ6
01-27-2011, 01:26 PM
looks like a lot of us ball in adidas shoes, these are the ones I have:

http://www.buyandwalk.com/images/shoes/adidas/adidas-shoes-170916-left-large.jpg
http://www.shoebuy.com/pi/adida/adida281518_87123_jb.jpg
They have them in other custom editions for players like TD, Garnett, Dwight, and D Rose I believe.

http://www.nbauniverse.com/nbashoes/images/shoes_adidas_ts_commander_howardc.jpg

http://www.cheapmuch.com/upfile/20100325/Adidas-TS-commander-KG-white-black-green57795.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/1oahdj.jpg

http://www.geeksneakers.com/wp-content/gallery/131/adidas-ts-commander-shoes-4.jpg

Brutalis
01-27-2011, 06:19 PM
they're not TDs

They have "TD Commander" on the box bro. When I dig it up I'll take a pic and post it.

DMC
01-27-2011, 06:29 PM
they're not TDs


http://www.amazon.com/adidas-Mens-Commander-Lite-Basketball/dp/B002FQJ92W?tag=buycheaper-20

They say TD Commander, but they do not look like basketball shoes. Not enough support around the arch.

JR21
02-01-2011, 09:38 PM
looks like a lot of us ball in adidas shoes, these are the ones I have:

http://www.buyandwalk.com/images/shoes/adidas/adidas-shoes-170916-left-large.jpg
http://www.shoebuy.com/pi/adida/adida281518_87123_jb.jpg
They have them in other custom editions for players like TD, Garnett, Dwight, and D Rose I believe.

http://www.nbauniverse.com/nbashoes/images/shoes_adidas_ts_commander_howardc.jpg

http://www.cheapmuch.com/upfile/20100325/Adidas-TS-commander-KG-white-black-green57795.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/1oahdj.jpg

http://www.geeksneakers.com/wp-content/gallery/131/adidas-ts-commander-shoes-4.jpg
Know where i can find a pair?

JR21
02-01-2011, 10:01 PM
http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4247884&CAWELAID=727477616

Found the Grey Suede ones but not sure if they are the same... They don't look as good as the ones he wears for some reason.

duncan228
02-01-2011, 10:07 PM
http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4247884&CAWELAID=727477616

Found the Grey Suede ones but not sure if they are the same... They don't look as good as the ones he wears for some reason.

They don't look like his but thanks for the link. Good to find more choices. :tu

His must be player only.

ALVAREZ6
02-01-2011, 10:38 PM
Know where i can find a pair?

Well that shoe came out about 2 years ago, so...online.

The shoe is called TS commander


They have "TD Commander" on the box bro. When I dig it up I'll take a pic and post it.
Are you sure that they're Duncan's just because they're called "TD Commander"?

Because mine are called TS..but who the hell in the current NBA Adidas line up is TS? Their main guys are Duncan, KG, Rose, Howard, TMac...

Does anything else on the shoe have anything to do with Duncan? It doesn't look like it, but I could be wrong. I only have internet images. Essentially every big NBA player that has his own shoe has one or more details that are specific to the player...like a signature somewhere, an image inside the sole particular to the player, for example the Answer 4s had his bulldog tattoo inside on the insole, reading around it "only the strong survive".
They just look too simplistic and not fancy enough to be Duncans. That doesn't necessarily mean a simplistic shoe is not expensive. But in addition, those TD Commanders also look like they would be relatively cheap. Not saying that means it's a bad shoe either, I always buy my bball shoes cheap, got my TS Commanders roughly 2 years ago for just under 50 bucks.

Also, going back to my very first sentence in this post:

http://www.freshnessmag.com/v4/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/adidas-ts-bounce-commander-01.jpg

For your information, that shoe is called "TS Bounce Commander"...so now something is pretty clear: TS means nothing

My instincts tell me TD also might mean nothing. Again, I could be wrong..did this all pretty quickly without holding your shoe in hand.

duncan228
02-01-2011, 10:42 PM
'TS' means 'Team Signature'.

Timmy21D
02-02-2011, 03:26 PM
http://www.academyprintwear.com/Blog%20Images/SC-Timmy2.jpg


Here you go, these popped up about 3 months ago. Got a pair to add to my Timmy D sneaker collection.

http://www.shoebacca.com/adidas/ts-bounce-commander-3-ncaa-g24465.html?referer=criteo&utm_campaign=retargeting&utm_pfm=criteo

duncan228
02-02-2011, 03:39 PM
Here you go, these popped up about 3 months ago. Got a pair to add to my Timmy D sneaker collection.

http://www.shoebacca.com/adidas/ts-bounce-commander-3-ncaa-g24465.html?referer=criteo&utm_campaign=retargeting&utm_pfm=criteo

Thanks! Great find, a bunch of us were hoping these came out.

ALVAREZ6
02-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Well....any verdict on our TD Commanders????

duncan228
02-18-2011, 03:39 PM
Duncan's shoes for the All-Star game, the adidas adiPure Mid. They run around the $80 range, I haven't checked to see where they're available or if they come in any other colors.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/all%20star%2011/adidasallstar11.jpg

Spurs rock
02-18-2011, 03:43 PM
Duncan's shoes for the All-Star game, the adidas adiPure Mid. They run around the $80 range, I haven't checked to see where they're available or if they come in any other colors.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/all%20star%2011/adidasallstar11.jpg

Those would look good with my D-Wade jersey. :downspin:

DesignatedT
02-18-2011, 03:46 PM
those are nice

Seventyniner
02-18-2011, 04:13 PM
When are Matt Bonner's "Medium Fundamental" shoes coming out?

Man In Black
02-18-2011, 04:44 PM
I love my Duncan 07 All-Star Shoe. But that new one is tight, especially the BLUE one. It evokes ARG to me even though I ain't ARG, I like what ARG has :D
http://king-mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/cimg0812.JPG
http://king-mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/cimg0813.JPG

Brutalis
02-18-2011, 05:03 PM
Okay I was completely wrong and mistaken. Not afraid to admit it!

http://img3.prosperent.com/images/250x250/www.paragonsports.com/images/medium/3-g09057_blacksilverwht_pd.jpg

I have those ^ not the other I posted saying I had. I mixed them up, but I could have sworn I did. I finally got the box dug out and open and they are the ones in this picture.

So ALV you were correct.

Brutalis
02-18-2011, 05:11 PM
I'm thinking hard about getting these:
http://www.shopadidas.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4477296

228 previously posted them in this thread. Might end up selling the ones I just posted for 25 bucks, if I have anyone interested I can post several pics, the shoes are in great condition and only used twice, size 12.

edit- just found these too
http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4247884&CAWELAID=727477616

really ugly imo.

spurs1990
02-18-2011, 08:30 PM
omg red shoes are gay as the day is long.

Timmy21D
02-22-2011, 12:29 PM
Duncan's shoes for the All-Star game, the adidas adiPure Mid. They run around the $80 range, I haven't checked to see where they're available or if they come in any other colors.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/all%20star%2011/adidasallstar11.jpg
http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:151526/sku:120725/adidas-adipure-mens/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH

Use the coupon code to knock off 15%

BTW- check out timmy and manu @ the red carpet gala. EVERYONE was decked out and poor timmy looked like he was going to a regal movie @Ingram
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/109315362.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E60E2E8688F482ECA9 62276F7AC50261220C6304EA022672F6E30A760B0D811297 C'mon TD you can do better than that!

Brutalis
02-22-2011, 12:31 PM
Timmy don't care to impress.

Timmy21D
02-22-2011, 12:47 PM
I'm aware of that, but a grown man has to dress for the occasion.

Obstructed_View
02-22-2011, 12:52 PM
Don't know if someone else asked this, but why the fuck do they have a Tim Duncan shoe with Carolina blue in it?

Brutalis
02-22-2011, 12:55 PM
Don't know if someone else asked this, but why the fuck do they have a Tim Duncan shoe with Carolina blue in it?
And one with red?

Timmy21D
02-22-2011, 01:54 PM
Don't know if someone else asked this, but why the fuck do they have a Tim Duncan shoe with Carolina blue in it?

It's a team shoe. Since Timmy more or less fell out of the top tier adidas athletes. He's releagted to a lower priced point shoe (probably to his liking, affordability to the underprivileged, and can match most school uni's)

ALVAREZ6
02-22-2011, 02:00 PM
:lol

wontstartdumbthreads
02-22-2011, 02:06 PM
It's a team shoe. Since Timmy more or less fell out of the top tier adidas athletes. He's releagted to a lower priced point shoe (probably to his liking, affordability to the underprivileged, and can match most school uni's)

Does this mean Dirk might end up selling British Knights?

Obstructed_View
02-22-2011, 02:42 PM
And one with red?

Color choices I understand, but that particular shade of blue for a Wake Forest guy was what surprised me.

Villegasep8025
02-28-2011, 11:22 AM
Those aren't for sale, at least not yet. They're player only, like the Skeleton ones he wore last Halloween.

I found a website that sells them but it states for NCAA, but we can tell that they are are the same that Timmy wears. Check them out, I already ordered a pair and should be here tomorrow.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/villegasep8025/skeletal6.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/villegasep8025/skeletal5.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/villegasep8025/skeletal3.jpg



http://www.shoebacca.com/adidas/ts-bounce-commander-3-ncaa-g24465.html?utm_campaign=finder&utm_pfm=finder_results

Villegasep8025
02-28-2011, 11:29 AM
It's a team shoe. Since Timmy more or less fell out of the top tier adidas athletes. He's releagted to a lower priced point shoe (probably to his liking, affordability to the underprivileged, and can match most school uni's)


yeah I really didn't like the color on those, they should have made the same one he wears with the black and grey, here is a website that shows the carolina/grey.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/villegasep8025/bigfundamentalcarolinagrey.jpg

http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4247884&cp=&sr=1&kw=adidas+big+fundamental&origkw=adidas+big+fundamental&parentPage=search

Villegasep8025
02-28-2011, 11:37 AM
http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:151526/sku:120725/adidas-adipure-mens/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH

Use the coupon code to knock off 15%

BTW- check out timmy and manu @ the red carpet gala. EVERYONE was decked out and poor timmy looked like he was going to a regal movie @Ingram
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/109315362.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E60E2E8688F482ECA9 62276F7AC50261220C6304EA022672F6E30A760B0D811297 C'mon TD you can do better than that!


It must of been that he was very tired from the Rodeo road trip.

Villegasep8025
02-28-2011, 11:42 AM
Here is the home shoe, I haven't been able to find the one with Grey/Black, I have only found the Carolina/Grey and those look ugly. Adidas needs to come out with his own shoe. But they are only $70 as well.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/villegasep8025/bigfundamentalcarolinagrey.jpg

http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4247884&cp=&sr=1&kw=adidas+big+fundamental&origkw=adidas+big+fundamental&parentPage=search

Timmy21D
03-22-2011, 10:12 AM
I know its not sneaker related, I'll throw it in anyways. A very small portion of Spurs/Timmy D TP, Manu jersey collection. These are "authentics" and not the swingman/replica types. However, the game issued are waaaay lighter in weight and seamless, dated w/the appropriate seasons.
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848349.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848350.jpg
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848351.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848353.jpg
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848358.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848357.jpg
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848356.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848355.jpg
A display that a buddy and I did 2 weekends ago @ Sneakerpalooza @ the Whitte museum.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/jwdanklefs/Jake/dos/3_13_1191.jpg

Spurs Brazil
03-22-2011, 03:25 PM
I know its not sneaker related, I'll throw it in anyways. A very small portion of Spurs/Timmy D TP, Manu jersey collection. These are "authentics" and not the swingman/replica types. However, the game issued are waaaay lighter in weight and seamless, dated w/the appropriate seasons.
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848349.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848350.jpg
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848351.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848353.jpg
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848358.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848357.jpg
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848356.jpghttp://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL807/4484051/19629669/395848355.jpg
A display that a buddy and I did 2 weekends ago @ Sneakerpalooza @ the Whitte museum.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/jwdanklefs/Jake/dos/3_13_1191.jpg

:tu

Timmy21D
03-22-2011, 04:30 PM
More goods
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/jwdanklefs/Jake/dos/3_13_1140.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/jwdanklefs/Jake/dos/3_13_1193.jpg
admirals "Mr robinson neighborhhod"
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/jwdanklefs/Jake/dos/3_13_1138.jpg

ALVAREZ6
03-22-2011, 04:59 PM
They should make those fuckers much higher up...like halfway up the fucking shin. Duncan's 29th ankle injury.