Hawaii Governor Admits No Birth Record Exists For Obama In Hawaii

[4>0rings]

http://patriotupdate.com/2259/shock-hawaii-gov-admits-there-are-no-obama-birth-records-in-hawaii

Interesting...

[Winehole23]

hearsay

[Winehole23]

what a third person says Abercromie said, is of limited credibility

[George Gervin's Afro]

But my friend overheard his cousin's best friend say that his hair stylist said....

[TeyshaBlue]

But my friend overheard his cousin's best friend say that his hair stylist said....

Somebody once told me that you actually aren't a talking afro in real life!:fro:depressed

[George Gervin's Afro]

Somebody once told me that you actually aren't a talking afro in real life!:fro:depressed

Have faith my friend

[TeyshaBlue]

Have faith my friend

:lol:lol

[Spurminator]

patriotupdate.com :lol

[ElNono]

Interesting...

Really?

[4>0rings]

Really?
Yeah seeing as how he's running this country and there is huge controversy over him being an American...

[Winehole23]

you win

[RandomGuy]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Obama pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

[Nbadan]

I misspoke? REALLY?


A celebrity journalist now claims he misspoke when he said last week that Hawaii’s governor told him he was unable to find President Barack Obama’s original birth certificate after a search of state and hospital archives.

Mike Evans told FoxNews.com on Wednesday he was remorseful and embarrassed that he appeared to have given the impression that he had discussed the search for Obama’s birth certificate with Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie.

Evans, who says he has been a close friend of Abercrombie since the 1980s, appeared on Minnesota’s KQRS radio last week and said he’d been told by the governor himself that Obama’s birth certificate was nowhere to be found. Evans told KQRS on Jan. 20:

"Yesterday, talking to Neil's office, Neil says that he searched everywhere using his powers as governor ..... there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii. Absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii."

But that’s no longer Evans’ story.

“Only this I can you tell you is 100 percent fact: that Neil never told me there was no birth certificate,” Evans told Fox News. “I never talked to him.”

Last week’s radio interview was part of Evans’ syndicated five-minute feature, “On the Road with Mike Evans,” which is broadcast on 34 stations across the country each morning.

On the morning of Jan. 20, Evans says he accidentally told one of those radio stations -- KQRS -- that he’d spoken directly with Gov. Abercrombie about the Obama birth certificate.

“I was on 34 radio stations that morning. That was the only station where I said, instead of saying ‘the hospital said there’s no birth certificate’ I misspoke and said Neil said that,” Evans said. “I misspoke and I apologize for that. I apologize to Neil.”

Abercrombie’s spokeswoman did not respond to Fox News e-mail and phone requests for comment.

FAUX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/#)

Of course, wing-nuts don't really care about truth but at least now you have a link to guide them to when this 'rumor' continues to spring up in wing-nut chain emails..

[Crookshanks]

It's funny that this Evans guy now says he misspoke - when thousands of people heard the radio interview earlier today. He was quite clear in what he said then - but we all knew he'd retract his statements once it hit Drudge.

[Creepn]

Do you guys also still believe that Obama is a sleeper cell terrorist?

[DarrinS]

Maybe Dan Rather will do an expose, complete with fake Kenyan birth certificate?

[jack sommerset]

It's safe to say a birth certificate does not exist

[Duff McCartney]

It's safe to say a birth certificate does not exist

It's also stupid to say.

[jack sommerset]

It's also stupid to say.

It's stupid to say he not an american until proven otherwise. It's not stupid to say the birth certificate is long gone.

[Duff McCartney]

It's stupid to say he not an american until proven otherwise. It's not stupid to say the birth certificate is long gone.

So is mine..washed away in the washing machine. I guess that means I'm not American.

[jack sommerset]

So is mine..washed away in the washing machine. I guess that means I'm not American.

If you say so

[Wild Cobra]

Someone told me that 4>0rings sucks dick for $25!

[Wild Cobra]

It's safe to say a birth certificate does not existIt's also stupid to say.
Does it really matter now? Assuming it was proven he was born in Nigeria like assumed by some, what recourse is there now?

[jack sommerset]

Does it really matter now? Assuming it was proven he was born in Nigeria like assumed by some, what recourse is there now?


That would be the best conversation the US would ever have.

[ChumpDumper]

That would be the best conversation the US would ever have.Why?

[jack sommerset]

Why?

Would you want barry to still be president if you found out today he was not an american?

[ChumpDumper]

Would you want barry to still be president if you found out today he was not an american?What is your evidence he is not American?

[Wild Cobra]

Would you want barry to still be president if you found out today he was not an american?
All we could do is oust him, make Biden president...

Which is the lesser of two evils?

Biden... Incumbent... less than half Obama's term... could be president for 10 years.

Better in my view he isn't the incumbent.

[jack sommerset]

All we could do is oust him, make Biden president...

Which is the lesser of two evils?

Biden... Incumbent... less than half Obama's term... could be president for 10 years.

Better in my view he isn't the incumbent.


I doubt it would be as simple as that. The fight that would occur would be epic.

[jack sommerset]

What is your evidence he is not American?

He is an american.

[ChumpDumper]

He is an american.So there is no need for the conversation you mentioned.

Great.

[jack sommerset]

So there is no need for the conversation you mentioned.

Great.

Then you shouldn't have chimed in.

[ChumpDumper]

Then you shouldn't have chimed in.Not at all -- I was wondering what this great conversation was supposed to be about.

Turns out it was nothing.

[Wild Cobra]

Then you shouldn't have chimed in.

No shit, since the presidency requires native born by constitution.

[ElNono]

Yeah seeing as how he's running this country and there is huge controversy over him being an American...

What huge controversy?

[ElNono]

It's funny that this Evans guy now says he misspoke - when thousands of people heard the radio interview earlier today. He was quite clear in what he said then - but we all knew he'd retract his statements once it hit Drudge.

The guy is telling you that he misspoke. What difference does it make if ten or one thousand people heard him fuck up on the radio?

[Winehole23]

It makes a difference. None of the subsequent retractions will move the true believers who heard it live on the radio, or the fellow travelers of the original witnesses.

The lie is strong. Sometimes, stronger than the truth.

[ChumpDumper]

It makes a difference. None of the subsequent retractions will move the true believers who heard it live on the radio, or the fellow travelers of the original witnesses.

The lie is strong. Sometimes, stronger than the truth.Just like Goebbels!

[Winehole23]

Tabloidization,is real.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I see the birthers (jacksommerset) are still stuck on stupid... skeptics.:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Do you guys also still believe that Obama is a sleeper cell terrorist?

There is at least one member of the Texas Board of Education who seems (seemed? not sure if still there) to think so. You know the people who decide what textbooks your kids get stuck with.

[RandomGuy]

Just like Goebbels!

Watched the Daily Show do the ultimate punk out of Fox News when one of their talking heads claimed, on air, "oh no, no one on this network EVER compares people on the left to Nazis".

They got footage of righties:
on the exact same show a year earlier saying that,
3.5 hours after the hosts claim outright making the same comparison
making, almost word for word, the same claim they were criticizing someone for
multiple instances by multiple people in multiple years saying similar
print interview of the FOX CEO saying just that

:rolleyes

[TeyshaBlue]

There is at least one member of the Texas Board of Education who seems (seemed? not sure if still there) to think so. You know the people who decide what textbooks your kids get stuck with.

She's gone. (Cynthia Dunbar, I believe was the nutbar that held that belief and was stupid enough to admit it.)

[jack sommerset]

He is an american.



I see the birthers (jacksommerset) are still stuck on stupid... skeptics.:lmao

You are stupid but keep on giggling to the little guy in your head.

[xrayzebra]

What is your evidence he is not American?

Why do you think he keeps pushing for the Dream
Act........:lmao

He's living the American Dream. Own private
jet, Moma out in the fields growning veggies
and his kids in private school.

And gets to go to foreign lands and treated like
royalty, although, royalty is snubbing him....

Who's says you cant have it all.

Although, global warming did cause him some
inconvenience last night. He had go from his
private jet to his penthouse by car......:depressed

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you think he keeps pushing for the Dream
Act........:lmao

He's living the American Dream. Own private
jet, Moma out in the fields growning veggies
and his kids in private school.

And gets to go to foreign lands and treated like
royalty, although, royalty is snubbing him....

Who's says you cant have it all.

Although, global warming did cause him some
inconvenience last night. He had go from his
private jet to his penthouse by car......:depressedSo only illegal aliens can get rich and powerful?

Compelling evidence....

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Why do you think he keeps pushing for the Dream
Act........:lmao

He's living the American Dream. Own private
jet, Moma out in the fields growning veggies
and his kids in private school.

And gets to go to foreign lands and treated like
royalty, although, royalty is snubbing him....

Who's says you cant have it all.

Although, global warming did cause him some
inconvenience last night. He had go from his
private jet to his penthouse by car......:depressed

Xray has been stuck on senile for decades now, cut him some slack people

[George Gervin's Afro]

Xray has been stuck on senile for decades now, cut him some slack people

Ray's a hoot!

[xrayzebra]

Xray has been stuck on senile for decades now, cut him some slack people

Not so senile I would vote for Obama. Like
some on here did and now they are stuck with
him and got no choice but try to defend Dear
Leader. Along with his investments......:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Not so senile I would vote for Obama. Like
some on here did and now they are stuck with
him and got no choice but try to defend Dear
Leader. Along with his investments......:lolInvestments?

What are you talking about?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Not so senile I would vote for Obama. Like
some on here did and now they are stuck with
him and got no choice but try to defend Dear
Leader. Along with his investments......:lol

So I guess ray doesn't see the need to invest in any future technology.. Who would do something like that?

[hater]

LOL Faux news

[RandomGuy]

She's gone. (Cynthia Dunbar, I believe was the nutbar that held that belief and was stupid enough to admit it.)

Whew.

Hopefully she was pushed out in an election and not simply because she chose to leave. That would improve my faith the average voter in Texas.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Why isn't this on the front page of every newspaper in this country!!!!

[xrayzebra]

So I guess ray doesn't see the need to invest in any future technology.. Who would do something like that?

Are you saying government is the only entity that
can invest in future technology. Now who is stuck
on stupid.

Oh, and where-o-where does government get
money to "invest" in anything.

Deficit this years for the federal government
1.5 trillion. 40 cents of every dollars borrowed.
:wow

You know nothing stops you from "investing"
in the future.

[ChumpDumper]

xray never drove on a federally funded road in his life.

[xrayzebra]

xray never drove on a federally funded road in his life.

Federally funded roads are future technology?
Anyhow I thought Obama fixed all those problems
with his first stimulus.
:downspin:

Oh, I forgot, it is Chump posting. I just cant
wait until I get to drive on those refurbished,
high technology roads, like here in San Antonio's
smart highway system. :lol

In one of Obama's car's. Just cant figure out how
to re-charge that sucker in West Texas amongst
all the windmills. Wonder if Don Quixote been
out that way lately.....:lol

[RandomGuy]

xray never drove on a federally funded road in his life.

Irony alert:

Machine that keeps Cheney alive was made possible through federally funded scientific research. (http://www.scienceprogress.org/2011/01/cheney%E2%80%99s-artificial-heart-made-possible-by-taxpayer-funded-rd/)

[xrayzebra]

Irony alert:

Machine that keeps Cheney alive was made possible through federally funded scientific research. (http://www.scienceprogress.org/2011/01/cheney%E2%80%99s-artificial-heart-made-possible-by-taxpayer-funded-rd/)

I would think this would make all Liberals think
twice about government "investment" in
research.

Serves them right..........

[ChumpDumper]

Federally funded roads are future technology?Certainly were at one point....

....and look what happened after all that government investment into them.

Not that I expect someone like x to understand.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I would think this would make all Liberals think
twice about government "investment" in
research.

Serves them right..........

so without this public investment cheney would be in hell already... dang it!

[ElNono]

So.... did the Hawaii Governor admit there's not birth record for Obama in Hawaii?

[lazerelmo]

So.... did the Hawaii Governor admit there's not birth record for Obama in Hawaii?

Yes. He did. :stirpot:

[ElNono]

Yes. He did. :stirpot:

Quote/Link/etc?

[LnGrrrR]

Irony alert:

Machine that keeps Cheney alive was made possible through federally funded scientific research. (http://www.scienceprogress.org/2011/01/cheney%E2%80%99s-artificial-heart-made-possible-by-taxpayer-funded-rd/)

Cheney... artificial heart... there's a joke in there somewhere...

[4>0rings]

Quote/Link/etc?
Do your own research.

[ChumpDumper]

Do your own research.I did.

The OP is completely full of shit.

[4>0rings]

I did.

The OP is completely full of shit.
Another of CumDumpster's pitfall, full of shit about what?

[ElNono]

Do your own research.

I did. Until further notice, Governor didn't admit anything.

[Yonivore]

This shit just won't go away, will it? Now, there are 10 states considering proof of eligibility legislation - that will be in place by 2012.

And, according to the Constitution, it's the States that select the electors based on whatever method they deem appropriate. Should be an interesting election cycle.

:lmao

[ElNono]

How do you know Obama didn't have to show proof of eligibility before running for Congress/President?
I also don't understand how something "won't go away" when it wasn't an issue to begin with...

[Wild Cobra]

So.... did the Hawaii Governor admit there's not birth record for Obama in Hawaii?
Not that we have direct knowledge of.

[Yonivore]

How do you know Obama didn't have to show proof of eligibility before running for Congress/President?
I also don't understand how something "won't go away" when it wasn't an issue to begin with...
It won't go away because, it's still in the news and seems to be gaining steam..with this bumbling Hawaii Governor and the states that seem to be contemplating making future candidates pony up the proof.

And, to whom does he "show proof of eligibility before running?"

Just curious.

[4>0rings]

What huge controversy?


Now, there are 10 states considering proof of eligibility legislation - that will be in place by 2012.

[Wild Cobra]

Quote/Link/etc?
No shit, one of the few things we seem to agree on.

Guys...

I really wish we could show he wasn't a US born citizen, but we can't. There is no evidence any more credible than those used by conspiracy theorists. Honestly... I wish we could make most or all legislation, signed into law by him, null and void.

There is an interesting theory out there that they are purposely withholding proof of his citizenship just because of the "birthers." The more you guys talk and get sidetracked over an issue you can never win, the more they blindside us with other stuff.

Think about it.

[Wild Cobra]

This shit just won't go away, will it? Now, there are 10 states considering proof of eligibility legislation - that will be in place by 2012.

And, according to the Constitution, it's the States that select the electors based on whatever method they deem appropriate. Should be an interesting election cycle.

:lmao
That would be a good change. However, we cannot impose "ex post facto" laws. Now if they pass such a law before the filing deadline for the 2012 elections... That could be interesting!

[Wild Cobra]

Yes. He did. :stirpot:
No, that was hearsay.

[Yonivore]

That would be a good change. However, we cannot impose "ex post facto" laws. Now if they pass such a law before the filing deadline for the 2012 elections... That could be interesting!
Alrighty then.

[Yonivore]

No shit, one of the few things we seem to agree on.

Guys...

I really wish we could show he wasn't a US born citizen, but we can't. There is no evidence any more credible than those used by conspiracy theorists. Honestly... I wish we could make most or all legislation, signed into law by him, null and void.

There is an interesting theory out there that they are purposely withholding proof of his citizenship just because of the "birthers." The more you guys talk and get sidetracked over an issue you can never win, the more they blindside us with other stuff.

Think about it.
I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

[ElNono]

It won't go away because, it's still in the news and seems to be gaining steam..with this bumbling Hawaii Governor and the states that seem to be contemplating making future candidates pony up the proof.

What news is this still in?
What bumbling Hawaii Governor? Do you have a direct quote from him? Let's see it.


And, to whom does he "show proof of eligibility before running?"

Just curious.

The Federal Election Commission (http://www.fec.gov/). Where all candidates have to register in order to run for federal elections?

[ElNono]

No shit, one of the few things we seem to agree on.

Guys...

I really wish we could show he wasn't a US born citizen, but we can't. There is no evidence any more credible than those used by conspiracy theorists. Honestly... I wish we could make most or all legislation, signed into law by him, null and void.

There is an interesting theory out there that they are purposely withholding proof of his citizenship just because of the "birthers." The more you guys talk and get sidetracked over an issue you can never win, the more they blindside us with other stuff.

Think about it.

Congress makes laws, not the executive. Unless it's the TARP we're talking about...

[ElNono]

I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

Why would he have any heartburn since he's an American citizen?
More like giving him a good laugh.

[Yonivore]

Why would he have any heartburn since he's an American citizen?
More like giving him a good laugh.
Okay.

[Wild Cobra]

Congress makes laws, not the executive. Unless it's the TARP we're talking about...
It's still not law until signed by the president. If he was a false president, what would that mean?

[ElNono]

It's still not law until signed by the president. If he was a false president, what would that mean?

But he isn't a false president, so why would that matter?

[Wild Cobra]

But he isn't a false president, so why would that matter?
Do you know what "IF" means?

[Blake]

It's still not law until signed by the president. If he was a false president, what would that mean?

Biden would sign it?

[ElNono]

Do you know what "IF" means?

There's no IF. He was eligible. Again, you don't just run by announcing it on a newspaper. You have to register and provide documentation to federal authorities before you can actually be a candidate.

[Yonivore]

There's no IF. He was eligible. Again, you don't just run by announcing it on a newspaper. You have to register and provide documentation to federal authorities before you can actually be a candidate.
To which federal authorities does one provide this documentation and what documentation do these federal authorities require?

[ElNono]

To which federal authorities does one provide this documentation and what documentation do these federal authorities require?

Here, all you need to know about federal candidate registration:
http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_candidate.shtml#register

[Yonivore]

Here, all you need to know about federal candidate registration:
http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_candidate.shtml#register
Not readily apparent, in the few forms I reviewed, that a candidate has to prove eligibility for anything more than receiving federal funds to campaign.

You're the expert, what does a candidate have to provide the FEC in order to prove eligibility for the office President?

[ElNono]

Not readily apparent, in the few forms I reviewed, that a candidate has to prove eligibility for anything more than receiving federal funds to campaign.

You're the expert, what does a candidate have to provide the FEC in order to prove eligibility for the office President?

Where did I claim to be an expert, Yoni?

I claimed candidates need to register with the FEC and provide documentation. That's factually accurate.

Challenges to his eligibility have been filed in different lawsuits and dismissed. What else you need to know? I'm still waiting for the direct quote from the Hawaii Governor...

[Yonivore]

There's no IF. He was eligible. Again, you don't just run by announcing it on a newspaper. You have to register and provide documentation to federal authorities before you can actually be a candidate.
Is it eligibility documentation?

[ElNono]

Is it eligibility documentation?

According to rulings on the subject, eligibility verification can only be requested by Congress (per the 12th amendment). That's the reason lawsuits by individuals have no standing.

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

I just palmed my face completely off.:depressed

[RandomGuy]

I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

I don't even fucking care. I hope this retarded issue keeps getting attached to the right wing in this country, so they have to continually admit they have some real retards in their midst.

and, if it ends up causing you to look more like one of those idiots attempting to push this issue, more the better.

[clambake]

on top of everything, yoni is a birther. lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

It must be big news if it's on patroitupdate.com!!!

[lazerelmo]

Hawaii Gov. Abercrombie's Health Director Quits

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/27/politics/main7288553.shtml


Smart move. he knew way to much.

[Winehole23]

Smart move. he knew way to much.Did you miss this:


Palafox, 58, said he was surprised when he heard TV news reports citing anonymous sources claiming he was under investigation for medical billing fraud.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think he missed it at all.

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't think he missed it at all.

Ignored it.

[Winehole23]

Or the fact Palafox was an interim director? I see little reason so far to assume lazerelmo read the link he posted.

[ChumpDumper]

Or the fact Palafox was an interim director? I see little reason so far to assume lazerelmo read the link he posted.

:fishing

[ChumpDumper]

Or maybe not. Don't remember his other posts.

[Winehole23]

:fishingNothing but small fry today.

[lazerelmo]

Yes, I firmly believe he has no idea why he is being investigated.

[lazerelmo]

http://http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110224_Answers_sought_on_Palafox_issue.html (http://http//www.staradvertiser.com/news/20110224_Answers_sought_on_Palafox_issue.html)


Abercrombie asked Palafox to withdraw his nomination in January but has not disclosed the reason.

He lacked the necessary Photoshop skills

:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

:fishing