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cutewizard
01-29-2011, 10:21 PM
Who's the best all time??

Wilt?

Or McHale?

Or Olajuwon?

Or someone else?

Giuseppe
01-29-2011, 10:25 PM
Solid query.

Very difficult to pinpoint it.

JMarkJohns
01-29-2011, 10:27 PM
Best I've ever seen was Hakeem, but Wilt I'm sure was the perfect answer before that.

sribb43
01-29-2011, 10:29 PM
Mchale

Giuseppe
01-29-2011, 10:31 PM
Walton was incredible too, even as late as the '86 Championship Campaign. His foot work was textbook.

Cry Havoc
01-29-2011, 10:41 PM
If you are talking about dominance, it has to be Wilt.

If you're talking about most complete game, I would say Hakeem.

Best ever might be Jabbar, however the aforementioned two players have to be in the running as well.

Pelicans78
01-29-2011, 10:43 PM
Shaq wasn't as polished as the elite ones, but he was more dominant at times. His footwork was natural.

Cry Havoc
01-29-2011, 10:46 PM
Shaq wasn't as polished as the elite ones, but he was more dominant at times. His footwork was natural.

As natural as lowering your shoulder and sending the defending player into the 3rd row of bleachers with no foul call, then dunking the ball can be.

Giuseppe
01-29-2011, 10:47 PM
Shaq wasn't as polished as the elite ones, but he was more dominant at times. His footwork was natural.

Daddy started out too high though, even in the salad days.

I can't recall anybody starting out lower than McHale. He was the epitomy.

TDMVPDPOY
01-29-2011, 10:53 PM
no mention of walton?

m33p0
01-29-2011, 10:53 PM
mchale had every move in the book.

JMarkJohns
01-29-2011, 10:58 PM
no mention of walton?

Fifth post

Giuseppe
01-29-2011, 11:03 PM
mchale had every move in the book.

And he'd always ask the towel boy for the towel after he was fouled.

DMC
01-29-2011, 11:10 PM
Lebron James

dbestpro
01-29-2011, 11:51 PM
Wilt by a country mile. Not only did he have size he also was the most amazing athlete to ever play the game. If Wilt played today they would be calling Lebron baby Wilt.

Giuseppe
01-30-2011, 12:01 AM
Wilt by a country mile. Not only did he have size he also was the most amazing athlete to ever play the game. If Wilt played today they would be calling Lebron baby Wilt.

Remember when he almost came back there that one year. He was really serious. Do you recall that, db?

He backed off at the last moment.

TE
01-30-2011, 12:02 AM
Major props and respect for Olajuwan. Truly a beast of a player in the post.

JoeTait75
01-30-2011, 12:05 AM
McHale and Hakeem were the best I've ever seen. Hakeem deserves extra props for being so raw going into college and transforming himself into a basketball artist. McHale deserves extra props for actually naming his array of moves: "the torture chamber."

JoeTait75
01-30-2011, 12:06 AM
Walton was incredible too, even as late as the '86 Championship Campaign. His foot work was textbook.

I didn't see Walton at his best- a bit before my time- but I always thought of him as more high-post than low-post.

Rummpd
01-30-2011, 12:19 AM
Hakeem the Dream - if he had been 25 pounds bigger and a few inches taller no one would ever talk about another center ever - as it was he played the position all around about as well as as anyone ever.

Others would be Jabbar, who in my adult lifetime (I saw Russell and Chamberlain as a young boy but do not remember much details) to me is the the most accomplished NBA player even slightly over Jordan (had more MVPS - same number of titles and turned by himself the Bucks into serious contenders even before he got help and had the most unstoppable shot.)

That being said I enjoyed watching the Dream more than anyone but Duncan is a close 2nd for his footwork and subtle game that is so skilled that some call it boring - but how can excellence truly be?

One other big often not discussed at the top who was damm savy and skilled (but cut short of injuries) was Bill Walton who played the position with such skill. He moved around in the post in a very savy manner and made subtle but brilliant moves over an over again and passes that were a thing of beauty.

I personally think McHale was over-ranked only because he never had to lead a team without Bird who drew so much attention. McHale has a lot of moves and savy but never dominated as Duncan or Karl Malone (very under-appreciated but worked the post area as hard as anyone in his day - perhaps like Moses Malone also did) did at the position so hard to give it up to him personally; but some do say to them he was the best ever down low. Shaq could have been the one but he really did not need to develop or use everything in his arsenal and then got lazy and never rebounded or blocked shots as he should have or could have but in stretches he was the most dominant big ever or at least in the modern post Wilt era.

redzero
01-30-2011, 12:42 AM
As natural as lowering your shoulder and sending the defending player into the 3rd row of bleachers with no foul call, then dunking the ball can be.

Can't argue with the results.

Hemotivo
01-30-2011, 01:03 AM
Hakeem
Scola

HarlemHeat37
01-30-2011, 03:23 AM
PG- Penny/Magic/Payton
SG- Jordan/Kobe/Richmond
SF- Bird/Dantley/King
PF- McHale/Duncan/Barkley
C- Abdul-Jabbar/O'Neal/Olajuwon

IMO..

cobbler
01-30-2011, 04:13 AM
Wilt

badfish22
01-30-2011, 04:18 AM
PG- Penny/Magic/Payton
SG- Jordan/Kobe/Richmond
SF- Bird/Dantley/King
PF- McHale/Duncan/Barkley
C- Abdul-Jabbar/O'Neal/Olajuwon

IMO..

No one asked that tbh..

DJB
01-30-2011, 04:47 AM
Hakeem. No question.

HarlemHeat37
01-30-2011, 04:47 AM
No one asked that tbh..

Doesn't matter, I can take a thread wherever I want it to end up, in all honesty..

LkrFan
01-30-2011, 05:42 AM
Hakeem. No question.
That is it and that is all.

21_Blessings
01-30-2011, 11:11 AM
Mchale is the textbook but The Dream was unorthodox and overall, objectively the best. But then, Skyhook > *.

Kobe is Hakeem to MJ's Mchale at this point.

Worthy deserves mention as he could back you down or face up depending on the defender and :lmao at Harlem having Bird over Dantley on his list (well he does think Lebron has a post game, so) Two words: finger roll.

YoMamaIsCallin
01-30-2011, 10:14 PM
I can't believe I've read this entire post and no one has mentioned Bill Russell or Tim Duncan, two of the best post players in the history of the NBA. Personally I'd rank Russell #1. BTW here's Bill Simmons all-time ranking (leaving off the non-post players) which I don't have a problem with:

2 - Bill Russell
3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6 - Wilt Chamberlain
7 - Tim Duncan
10 - Hakeem Olajuwon
11 - Shaquille O'Neal
12 - Moses Malone

WeNeedLength
01-30-2011, 10:18 PM
I'm 90% sure it is Pau Gasol. Amirite laker fans?

HarlemHeat37
01-30-2011, 10:21 PM
I was under the assumption that this thread was about "post-up ability", not the "best big men"..

If so, Bill Russell shouldn't be anywhere near this thread..

YoMamaIsCallin
01-30-2011, 10:25 PM
I was under the assumption that this thread was about "post-up ability", not the "best big men"..

umm... ok... to me "Post Player" means a player who plays inside on both offense and defense. "Post-up ability" is just a subset of the offensive ability of a post player.

But, whatever... I didn't start the thread.

HarlemHeat37
01-30-2011, 10:28 PM
umm... ok... to me "Post Player" means a player who plays inside on both offense and defense. "Post-up ability" is just a subset of the offensive ability of a post player.

But, whatever... I didn't start the thread.

Fair enough..

TampaDude
01-30-2011, 11:11 PM
Hakeem. No question.

^ this

dbreiden83080
01-30-2011, 11:24 PM
Wilt by a mile...

ALVAREZ6
01-30-2011, 11:33 PM
I can't believe I've read this entire post and no one has mentioned Bill Russell or Tim Duncan
are you sure you read?