Why the Black Panther Case matters

[Yonivore]

Why the Black Panther Case Matters (http://spectator.org/archives/2011/02/03/why-the-black-panther-case-mat)


In any other circumstance, if an administration 1) claimed utterly bogus privileges never before recognized by law, 2) dragged its feet for 16 months on a rather simple internal investigation, 3) put partisan officials in place to oversee or skew the investigations, and 4) stiffed Congress and the media and an independent agency on formal, legally weighty information requests, then the axis of CBS/New York Times/AP/White House press corps would be in full-on Watergate mode with breathless updates about the latest nefarious occurrences.
Indeed.

Do Obama officials actually believe that the law is really meant to protect some but not others?

Why, yes...yes they do (http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/USCCR_NBPP_report.pdf).


(“People are wondering why aren't you bring cases with voting and African-Americans–what is the issue,’ said Julie Fernandes of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. ‘How can it be that the biggest case involving discrimination in Mississippi [United States v. Ike Brown and Noxubee County] was brought on behalf of white voters. . . .The law was written to protect black people.’”
Ms. Fernandes is an Assistant Attorney General working in Holder's DOJ.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Why the Black Panther Case Matters (http://spectator.org/archives/2011/02/03/why-the-black-panther-case-mat)


Indeed.

Do Obama officials actually believe that the law is really meant to protect some but not others?

Why, yes...yes they do (http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/USCCR_NBPP_report.pdf).


Ms. Fernandes is an Assistant Attorney General working in Holder's DOJ.

who filed the complaint against the Black Panthers? Who was intimidated? who couldn't cast their vote?

[Yonivore]

who filed the complaint against the Black Panthers? Who was intimidated? who couldn't cast their vote?
It doesn't bother you that a senior official in the Department of Justice believes equal protection laws were written for a particular race?

[George Gervin's Afro]

It doesn't bother you that a senior official in the Department of Justice believes equal protection laws were written for a particular race?

when was the law enacted?

[Yonivore]

when was the law enacted?
So, it doesn't bother you?

[George Gervin's Afro]

who filed the complaint against the Black Panthers? Who was intimidated? who couldn't cast their vote?

[Yonivore]

Why the Black Panther Case Matters (http://spectator.org/archives/2011/02/03/why-the-black-panther-case-mat)


In any other circumstance, if an administration 1) claimed utterly bogus privileges never before recognized by law, 2) dragged its feet for 16 months on a rather simple internal investigation, 3) put partisan officials in place to oversee or skew the investigations, and 4) stiffed Congress and the media and an independent agency on formal, legally weighty information requests, then the axis of CBS/New York Times/AP/White House press corps would be in full-on Watergate mode with breathless updates about the latest nefarious occurrences.
Indeed.

Do Obama officials actually believe that the law is really meant to protect some but not others?

Why, yes...yes they do (http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/USCCR_NBPP_report.pdf).


(“People are wondering why aren't you bring cases with voting and African-Americans–what is the issue,’ said Julie Fernandes of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. ‘How can it be that the biggest case involving discrimination in Mississippi [United States v. Ike Brown and Noxubee County] was brought on behalf of white voters. . . .The law was written to protect black people.’”
Ms. Fernandes is an Assistant Attorney General working in Holder's DOJ.

[Proxy]

People in this country have never been treated equally. In this case, the minority happens to be on the opposite side of things, and whites play the victim.

[clambake]

what you want is a law to protect you from black people. go ahead, just say it. we know.

[Yonivore]

People in this country have never been treated equally. In this case, the minority happens to be on the opposite side of things, and whites play the victim.
Nevertheless, we should demand equal protection from Government.

[jack sommerset]

So, it doesn't bother you?

No it doesn't bother him. George is a retarded motherfucker that has zero clue what he is spewing. He just ask stupid questions and giggles now. It's obvious what the black panthers with billy clubs were doing in front of a polling station on election day unless you a retarded motherfucker like George or you are a lefty democrat. Of course George is not a lefty democrat because when George wasn't giggling and asking questions he told us he was voting for McCain, a republican until Palin showed up. Now George will take EVERY democratic talking point and back every policy the Obongo administrations supports. I'm telling you George has some retard in him. I'm 100% certain of that.

[Oh, Gee!!]

It doesn't bother you that a senior official in the Department of Justice believes equal protection laws were written for a particular race?

No, because those laws were designed to protect black citizens from oppression by mostly white government officials. Whether you like it or not your white ancestors did some pretty fucked up shit to black people. Those laws protect us all, but they were created originally to protect black people from white people.

I.O.W. her statement is factually/historically accurate. It would bother if she or any doj official was not enforcing the law equally for all citizens regardless of race, but she/they are despite what your blogger friends tell you.

[Yonivore]

No, because those laws were designed to protect black citizens from oppression by mostly white government officials. Whether you like it or not your white ancestors did some pretty fucked up shit to black people. Those laws protect us all, but they were created originally to protect black people from white people.

I.O.W. her statement is factually/historically accurate. It would bother if she or any doj official was not enforcing the law equally for all citizens regardless of race, but she/they are despite what your blogger friends tell you.
First of all, considering the number of African-Americans in America (currently around 15% -- I don't know what it was in the 60's), there were as many, probably more, probably way more, whites, fighting for their equal rights at the time of the civil rights movement. It wasn't a black vs. white issue; it was a right vs. wrong issue.

Second, claiming the law was written for black people as a way to justify the current actions of the DOJ, vis-a-vis the New Black Panther Case, is the injustice to which I refer.

[George Gervin's Afro]

No it doesn't bother him. George is a retarded motherfucker that has zero clue what he is spewing. He just ask stupid questions and giggles now. It's obvious what the black panthers with billy clubs were doing in front of a polling station on election day unless you a retarded motherfucker like George or you are a lefty democrat. Of course George is not a lefty democrat because when George wasn't giggling and asking questions he told us he was voting for McCain, a republican until Palin showed up. Now George will take EVERY democratic talking point and back every policy the Obongo administrations supports. I'm telling you George has some retard in him. I'm 100% certain of that.

hey dummy who filed a complaint in the case? who didn't get to vote?

dumbass...but,but,but obama's a liar


get back to me when you find the person who was bullied in this case..

[boutons_deux]

"probably way more, whites, fighting for their equal rights at the time of the civil rights movement"

Who was denying whites the right to vote, the right to enter a restaurant, the right sit anywhere on the bus?

Yoni laying the The Whole Revisionist Pravda on us.

[George Gervin's Afro]

"probably way more, whites, fighting for their equal rights at the time of the civil rights movement"

Who was denying whites the right to vote, the right to enter a restaurant, the right sit anywhere on the bus?

Yoni laying the The Whole Revisionist Pravda on us.

yoni thinks the DOJ hates white people

[Yonivore]

hey dummy who filed a complaint in the case? who didn't get to vote?

dumbass...but,but,but obama's a liar


get back to me when you find the person who was bullied in this case..
I suggest you go back a few months and look at some of your own posts. Once upon a time, you were fairly reasonable and well-spoken. Now, you've become as shrill as boutons.

Enjoy your insanity, George.

By the way, none of your questions are relevant to the issue of whether or not there is a DOJ Assistant Attorney General who believes laws were written to the benefit of only one race.

[Yonivore]

yoni thinks the DOJ hates white people
Yoni thinks the DOJ is ignoring the equal protection clause of the U. S. Constitution.

[jack sommerset]

hey dummy who filed a complaint in the case? who didn't get to vote?

dumbass...but,but,but obama's a liar


get back to me when you find the person who was bullied in this case..

Bullied???????
dummy????
Get back to you?????
Obongo is a liar?????
filed a complaint?????

[boutons_deux]

you chickenshit dickless right-wingers don't want or expect any push back to your insane bullshit and lies.

When did Yoni complain about the 1000 Brooks Brothers lawyers invading FL to swing the 2000 vote? Or the 100s of Repug thugs that rioted outside of recounting offices to intimidate the recounters?

Of the Repug FL Sec of State falsely excluding (mostly black) voters from the rolls? Or the "road works" and bus route changes in black neighborhoods on voting day?

[Oh, Gee!!]

First of all, considering the number of African-Americans in America (currently around 15% -- I don't know what it was in the 60's), there were as many, probably more, probably way more, whites, fighting for their equal rights at the time of the civil rights movement. It wasn't a black vs. white issue; it was a right vs. wrong issue.

the fact that whites outnumbered blacks and controlled local/state/federal government at that time meant that it was possible/likely/easy for whites to oppress blacks in almost every aspect of life for a long period of our nation's history. I know you want to rewrite the history of race-relations in this country, so I'll expect this point to sail right past your head.


Second, claiming the law was written for black people as a way to justify the current actions of the DOJ, vis-a-vis the New Black Panther Case, is the injustice to which I refer.

if you had actually read the article you cited about ms. hernandez, you'd understand that she stated the well-known, historic fact about the civil rights era prior to becoming a doj official. to claim it is her/their justification for any postition they choose to take on the black panther case is unfair and misleading.

[Yonivore]

the fact that whites outnumbered blacks and controlled local/state/federal government at that time meant that it was possible/likely/easy for whites to oppress blacks in almost every aspect of life for a long period of our nation's history. I know you want to rewrite the history of race-relations in this country, so I'll expect this point to sail right past your head.
I'm rewriting nothing, you ignore the fact that, because of their majority, whites were instrumental in gaining equality for blacks.


if you had actually read the article you cited about ms. hernandez, you'd understand that she stated the well-known, historic fact about the civil rights era prior to becoming a doj official. to claim it is her/their justification for any postition they choose to take on the black panther case is unfair and misleading.
You didn't read the article...


Most concretely, did Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes adopt a policy of not enforcing, or not enforcing in an equal manner, two separate laws relating to voting rights and procedures? Two sworn testimonies say that she said as much at specific, widely attended Civil Rights Division meetings in the fall of 2009, and further sworn testimony says she and the Obama team directly ignored a key lawyer's recommendation to enforce one of those laws against eight states in obvious violation thereof.

[boutons_deux]

"whites were instrumental in gaining equality for blacks."

whites were guilty for 100s of years of enslaving blacks, raping blacks, falsefly imprisoning blacks, lynching blacks, and denying equality for blacks.

[ChumpDumper]

So did anyone ever find out who those big scary black men intimidated?

Their story must be heard.

[sickdsm]

No, because those laws were designed to protect black citizens from oppression by mostly white government officials. Whether you like it or not your white ancestors did some pretty fucked up shit to black people. Those laws protect us all, but they were created originally to protect black people from white people.

I.O.W. her statement is factually/historically accurate. It would bother if she or any doj official was not enforcing the law equally for all citizens regardless of race, but she/they are despite what your blogger friends tell you.

So what? I'm sure you have some ancestors that did some fucked up stuff too.


We all do

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'm rewriting nothing, you ignore the fact that, because of their majority, whites were instrumental in gaining equality for blacks.

that's not the argument. the argument is whether the civil rights act was created to protect black people. it clearly was. I never argued that white people didn't help.



You didn't read the article...

you're the one who has imputed present-day motive on mrs. fernandes from something she something she said/thought before she was a doj official. if you have quotes from ms. fernandes in her official capacity, let 'em fly.

[Stringer_Bell]

So did anyone ever find out who those big scary black men intimidated?

Their story must be heard.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that if it was 2 white dudes trying to "intimidate" black people from voting for Obama, no one would have called the cops. Those dudes would've been dealt with on the city curb. Why do white people always have to call the cops? Waste of tax money that's what this shit is...

[sickdsm]

Hardly, It would have been the same. Its all about the exposure.

[jack sommerset]

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that if it was 2 white dudes trying to "intimidate" black people from voting for Obama, no one would have called the cops. Those dudes would've been dealt with on the city curb. Why do white people always have to call the cops? Waste of tax money that's what this shit is...

White people didn't always call the police.

[ChumpDumper]

White people didn't always call the police.It's about time someone stood up for white people, jack. :tu

[jack sommerset]

It's about time someone stood up for white people, jack. :tu

:toast

[Stringer_Bell]

White people didn't always call the police.

My bad, you're correct that white people didn't always call the police...back in the day. But now that Black folk walk more freely among them and white people aren't able to pick them off as easy on the way home from the grocery store or work...they call the cops any time a brother sneezes in their direction.

[sickdsm]

So when white people are getting hassled they should just whup some ass or suck it up?

Really embarrassing that this guy didn't have someone step in before something happened. 9 times out of ten at least the old guy gets his ass beat.

http://www.youjotube.com/watch/bLQ3mXqAq_Y.

[Winehole23]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/new-black-panther-party_n_2092877.html

[George Gervin's Afro]

There was a black panther outside the same polling place! Call out the national guard..

[ChumpDumper]

The panther was actually an official election monitor this time around. :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

No it doesn't bother him. George is a retarded motherfucker that has zero clue what he is spewing. He just ask stupid questions and giggles now. It's obvious what the black panthers with billy clubs were doing in front of a polling station on election day unless you a retarded motherfucker like George or you are a lefty democrat. Of course George is not a lefty democrat because when George wasn't giggling and asking questions he told us he was voting for McCain, a republican until Palin showed up. Now George will take EVERY democratic talking point and back every policy the Obongo administrations supports. I'm telling you George has some retard in him. I'm 100% certain of that.No "God bless"?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

No it doesn't bother him. George is a retarded motherfucker that has zero clue what he is spewing. He just ask stupid questions and giggles now. It's obvious what the black panthers with billy clubs were doing in front of a polling station on election day unless you a retarded motherfucker like George or you are a lefty democrat. Of course George is not a lefty democrat because when George wasn't giggling and asking questions he told us he was voting for McCain, a republican until Palin showed up. Now George will take EVERY democratic talking point and back every policy the Obongo administrations supports. I'm telling you George has some retard in him. I'm 100% certain of that.
Brother, this post has a much different tone that the born-again style you've been using. God bless.