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JoeTait75
04-28-2011, 11:23 PM
And coaching in the NFL matters. Don't tell me a non-retarded offensive coordinator who didn't feed the ball to Danny faggothonky Woodhead and didn't find every excuse possible to keep Rob Gronkowski away from the ball against the Jets wouldn't have helped New England.

It matters but not THAT much. No offensive coordinator in the world is going to make Chad Henne a good quarterback. The Browns have gone through one coach after another since 1999 and they still suck.

Borosai
04-29-2011, 01:10 AM
Dareus!

Isitjustme?
04-29-2011, 01:38 AM
omg ESPN's countdown to round 2 clock is so fucking gay.

symple19
04-29-2011, 01:53 AM
goddamn niners....

djohn2oo8
04-29-2011, 02:14 AM
It matters but not THAT much. No offensive coordinator in the world is going to make Chad Henne a good quarterback. The Browns have gone through one coach after another since 1999 and they still suck.

Coaching matters a lot. Coaches have at least some input into who they draft, sign, trade etc. Coaches who decide to go with two unproven cornerbacks and end up with one of the worst defenses in history has everything to do with with inept coaches. a head coach is the supposed leader of the team, and his attitude in games will rub off on his team, if he is soft, his team will not finish games etc...

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
04-29-2011, 04:04 AM
I love the fact that Fairley is a dirty, nasty sumbitch. Frees up Schwartz to run a helluva lot of different fronts. Thanks SF, HOU, TEN, MIN. Originally thought Fairley was a lock to the Texans when he was still on the board.

But what's up with the stupid fucking specs that made him look like the Nutty Professor or the fat kid from 8 Mile? Douche.

Bear with because this is usually the best part of my season: Gorilla tape Stafford's entire body, draft Carter or Foster, make a run at Joseph or throw every penny you have at Nnamdi (FU, it's my dream), draft a bruiser RB late...

That's not a bad team and at the very least, will definitely inflict some damage on opposing offenses.

Dump VY for an even shittier QB, eh Titans?

Who the fuck is James Carpenter?

Did Philly really draft a 26/27 yo G?

Thought the Pats would move up for Quinn when they said the Lions were tinkering with trading out. I assume that was when Mayhew thought the Vikes were taking Fairley, which would have actually made much more sense for the Vikes. Quinn to the Pats would have been scary.

And fuck you, Minny. Ponder is karma for that stupid fucking horn.

Luck, Barkley and Brantley probably declaring next year and Christian Ponder, already with shoulder/elbow/arm strength issues, goes 12. Hello, LA.

mojorizen7
04-29-2011, 05:57 AM
St Lou stays cool....sits tight and STEALS Robert Quinn at #14 :lol
Fucking draft day robbery.
Maybe the best pass rusher in the draft. He can also stand up...line up anywhere along the front seven.

We still need help at OLB(hoping for Bruce Carter at #47) and in the secondary at safety(i still like Ahmad Black in the middle rds) but.....
Chris Long(8.5 sacks)
James Hall(10.5 sacks)
Fred Robbins(6 sacks)
Robert Quinn

In Spags pressure system....

with Laurinaitis thumping the run up the middle....

BEASTLY.

JMarkJohns
04-29-2011, 09:08 AM
goddamn niners....

Numerous reports yesterday reported it's a selection their are trading to Philly for Kolb once able. We'll see. Pretty risky. No binding agreement can be made in any trade, as far as I know.

djohn2oo8
04-29-2011, 09:19 AM
I still can't believe what Jacksonville and Tennessee did. I can understand the Titans needing to draft a QB, but with the 8th pick? Jake Locker is a career backup, so they should have fun with that. Same thing with the Jags, trading up to spend a first rounder on a backup. Still pissed about that J.J. Watts pick, but at least they didn't go QB too

Kai
04-29-2011, 12:10 PM
Wonder where this ginger ends up going. Cincinnati apparently tried to trade up to 32 to get him.

JamStone
04-29-2011, 12:24 PM
I love the fact that Fairley is a dirty, nasty sumbitch. Frees up Schwartz to run a helluva lot of different fronts. Thanks SF, HOU, TEN, MIN. Originally thought Fairley was a lock to the Texans when he was still on the board.

But what's up with the stupid fucking specs that made him look like the Nutty Professor or the fat kid from 8 Mile? Douche.

Bear with because this is usually the best part of my season: Gorilla tape Stafford's entire body, draft Carter or Foster, make a run at Joseph or throw every penny you have at Nnamdi (FU, it's my dream), draft a bruiser RB late...

That's not a bad team and at the very least, will definitely inflict some damage on opposing offenses.

I'm cool with the pick but he did look like a fucking retard. I'm not overly excited though either. To me, too many holes to address to go with depth with a first rounder. Although I will say that there really wasn't any player that would have got me all that excited. Amukamara was the safe pick to take. Glad they didn't take a tackle. I probably would have preferred Quinn or Bowers, but seeing how far Bowers has fallen, I'm guessing a lot of these teams know a lot more than we do about his injuries and health.

To me, by taking BPA in the first round, you can't do that in the second round. You have to address need. Either Carter at OLB or one of the many corners that should be available, Williams, Harris, Dowling, House. I think Carter should be the target if he's available there at #44 for the Lions.

JamStone
04-29-2011, 12:27 PM
I still can't believe what Jacksonville and Tennessee did. I can understand the Titans needing to draft a QB, but with the 8th pick? Jake Locker is a career backup, so they should have fun with that. Same thing with the Jags, trading up to spend a first rounder on a backup. Still pissed about that J.J. Watts pick, but at least they didn't go QB too

I'm not convinced Locker is destined to be a career back-up. Gruden made a great point last night regarding his completion percentage. Who the hell did he have to throw to? You watch a lot of the film on Locker, and he's intentionally throwing the ball away because that's the best play to make. That doesn't help his completion percentage obviously. And as far as intangibles go, there's not much not to like about him. The right grooming and with better pieces around him, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a very good QB in the NFL.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
04-29-2011, 01:40 PM
I'm cool with the pick but he did look like a fucking retard. I'm not overly excited though either. To me, too many holes to address to go with depth with a first rounder. Although I will say that there really wasn't any player that would have got me all that excited. Amukamara was the safe pick to take. Glad they didn't take a tackle. I probably would have preferred Quinn or Bowers, but seeing how far Bowers has fallen, I'm guessing a lot of these teams know a lot more than we do about his injuries and health.

To me, by taking BPA in the first round, you can't do that in the second round. You have to address need. Either Carter at OLB or one of the many corners that should be available, Williams, Harris, Dowling, House. I think Carter should be the target if he's available there at #44 for the Lions.

I agree with your BPA, need philosophy. But I have a feeling they're going to take a RB in the 2nd. Board is falling that way and Mayhew has been consistent with the BPA mantra.

They need a OLB more so than a CB. I don't believe they have a viable starter on either side on the roster.

Love Carter, probably going to be Leshoure.

JamStone
04-29-2011, 02:16 PM
I will be pretty upset if they take LeShoure in the second round.

I do agree that the Lions need a linebacker more than a CB. But if Carter isn't there, I'm not really that high on the available 4-3 OLBs left after him and Ayers, while there are several CBs that I would like at that spot. Plus, it's all but an absolute certainty they go after an OLB in free agency.

I also think it's easier to plug in a mediocre to poor linebacker than it is a mediocre to poor corner in the line up. A mediocre to poor linebacker might give up a 20 yard run or pass. A mediocre to poor corner gives up TDs.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 04:42 PM
The buzz is that the Patriots take Sheard. My guess is they'll trade down again to midround.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:06 PM
Patriots on the clock....

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:11 PM
Holy shit. I really hope Mono is not watching this draft right now, and instead, is enjoying a peaceful relaxing day.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:14 PM
We now have Butler, Dowling and McCourty for CBs in the secondary, along with Chung and Meriweather at S. And still, no pass rush.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:19 PM
So which team is going to trade for Palmer?

Kai
04-29-2011, 05:21 PM
We now have Butler, Dowling and McCourty for CBs in the secondary, along with Chung and Meriweather at S. And still, no pass rush.

What's the deal with Bodden? Was his injury that bad that you're already counting him out?

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:26 PM
What's the deal with Bodden? Was his injury that bad that you're already counting him out?

:lmao Forgot about him since he was out all year. I guess Belichick is just going to play a 3-2-6 defense base package.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:26 PM
WTF San Fran? :lol Bit of a reach there.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:28 PM
Nice pick by Cleveland. They've got an A in my book so far.

monosylab1k
04-29-2011, 05:43 PM
I hate Belichick. What a fraud.

Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 05:48 PM
So when are the Cowboys gonna get someone in the secondary?

Still, I can't wait to see what R:lolb Ry:loln does with these athletic linebackers

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:48 PM
I hate Belichick. What a fraud.

Mono, just stop watching this draft. We won't get an OLB til 3rd round or so, then you'll have to drink yourself to death. Just pretend we're going to trade for someone's stud DE/OLB, and go see a movie or something.

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 05:50 PM
So sad Kaepernick went to SF.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:52 PM
So sad Kaepernick went to SF.

Just face it IM, Mallet to Oakland is a lock.

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 05:53 PM
That'd be pretty gay.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 05:54 PM
That'd be pretty gay.

It fits too well. Mallet does cocaine and has character issues; what better place for him to play than Oaktown?

Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 05:56 PM
M:lolllet to H:lolyw:lolrd-B:loly

:lmao:lmao:lmao = :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 05:57 PM
What QB does everyone think will be the biggest bust?

I think Gabbert

djohn2oo8
04-29-2011, 05:59 PM
:toast
http://musketfire.com/files/2011/04/BrooksReed.jpg

djohn2oo8
04-29-2011, 05:59 PM
What QB does everyone think will be the biggest bust?

I think Gabbert

Cam Newton without a doubt

ace3g
04-29-2011, 06:03 PM
Appeal's Court restores NFL Lockout , ESPN Breaking News just now

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 06:05 PM
I'll go Gabbert for having that retarded hair. I guess it's good LA didn't give up the 48, 81 and 2012 first rounder to NE for Kaep.

Luck and Barkley do come out next year.

Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 06:12 PM
The reason I don't like Gabbert is because that Mizzou offense usually is just catch and throw off of 1 read. A lot of short passes and screen plays.

I think I read somewhere that his completion % of passes over 15 yards was in the 30s. That's pretty bad

Kai
04-29-2011, 06:22 PM
Texans one step closer to have an all-white Defense :lol

Cushing, Barwin, Watt, Reed. 4 down, 7 to go :tu

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 06:23 PM
Calling Wizniewski

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 06:23 PM
lol, as I say that, it's the pick. Seemed obvious

leemajors
04-29-2011, 06:28 PM
Sweet, I wonder if Jerry picked Bruce Carter cause he tore his ACL in Nov. Boys def don't need secondary help.

daspurs
04-29-2011, 06:29 PM
Orlandoooo Franklin ! The U baby ! He's gonna be a stud .

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 06:31 PM
If Daquan Bowers falls to the Pats, they have to take him, right? I mean, how bad can his knee be? :lol

daspurs
04-29-2011, 06:34 PM
If Daquan Bowers falls to the Pats, they have to take him, right? I mean, how bad can his knee be? :lol

or you can take allen bailey ;)

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 06:39 PM
I thought Bowers would go to a 3-4 team.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 06:40 PM
Bowers just breathed a huge sigh of relief.

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 06:49 PM
Justin Houston with one of New England's picks would help a lot tbh.

Kai
04-29-2011, 06:58 PM
DOK, what do you think of Brooks Reed?

Kai
04-29-2011, 06:59 PM
Bucs have the depth to sit Bowers for a year.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:00 PM
Pats got that pick in quick.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:01 PM
Interesting pick... Mono is setting himself on fire somewhere.

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:02 PM
DOK, what do you think of Brooks Reed?

Eh, I didn't think he was worth a 2nd round pick but i think the transition to OLB could help him a lot. He has a motor that doesn't stop running, he's not at all great at sealing the edge (which he won't have to be in Houston's defense), and even though he's a honky he's really athletic.

daspurs
04-29-2011, 07:02 PM
vereen was a stud in college but ? ...

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:03 PM
I like Vereen as a player and as a pick by himself, but the Patriots have needs staring them in the face they're not addressing. Not thrilled with Vereen but not unhappy either, hopefully this means Woodfag never sees the field on 1st or 2nd down.

Kai
04-29-2011, 07:05 PM
So Vareen = Faulk replacement?

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:06 PM
I like Vereen as a player and as a pick by himself, but the Patriots have needs staring them in the face they're not addressing. Not thrilled with Vereen but not unhappy either, hopefully this means Woodfag never sees the field on 1st or 2nd down.

Pick number 28 HAS to be a DE/OLB... right? Pats fans would be frothing at the mouth if he doesn't pick up SOMETHING for the pass rush in the first two rounds.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:07 PM
So Vareen = Faulk replacement?

Woodhead = Faulk replacement
Vereen = Likely to platoon with BJGE

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:07 PM
Vereen is the most talented back on the roster. He could be a Faulk replacement, but this pick could also be New England planning for what happens when a team overpays BJGE.

gaKNOW!blee
04-29-2011, 07:08 PM
I will be pretty upset if they take LeShoure in the second round.

I do agree that the Lions need a linebacker more than a CB. But if Carter isn't there, I'm not really that high on the available 4-3 OLBs left after him and Ayers, while there are several CBs that I would like at that spot. Plus, it's all but an absolute certainty they go after an OLB in free agency.

I also think it's easier to plug in a mediocre to poor linebacker than it is a mediocre to poor corner in the line up. A mediocre to poor linebacker might give up a 20 yard run or pass. A mediocre to poor corner gives up TDs.

upset?

daspurs
04-29-2011, 07:08 PM
leshoure is gonna be a medenhall clone

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
04-29-2011, 07:09 PM
Ah, my Lions. Don't tell I don't know this team.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:09 PM
I could see Baltimore taking the OLB we need here.

daspurs
04-29-2011, 07:10 PM
WTF everybody is sleeping on hankerson

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:13 PM
Pick number 28 HAS to be a DE/OLB... right? Pats fans would be frothing at the mouth if he doesn't pick up SOMETHING for the pass rush in the first two rounds.

It's not like BB cares, he wants smart guys who set the edge over guys who rush the passer (not saying I agree, but it is what it is). Ninokovich's stats his 1st 4 years are identical to Vrabel's stats his 1st 4 years so maybe there are similarities there we're not seeing(wishful thinking but it's my only explanation for why BB doesn't draft OLBs), and he's high on Cunningham.

I was hoping he at least saw a need at DE, but he apparently doesn't. I'd love to see tehm draft a center as I'm tired of watching Koppen get shredded in playoff games.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:14 PM
It's not like BB cares, he wants smart guys who set the edge over guys who rush the passer (not saying I agree, but it is what it is). Ninokovich's stats his 1st 4 years are identical to Vrabel's stats his 1st 4 years so maybe there are similarities there we're not seeing(wishful thinking but it's my only explanation for why BB doesn't draft OLBs), and he's high on Cunningham.

I was hoping he at least saw a need at DE, but he apparently doesn't. I'd love to see tehm draft a center as I'm tired of watching Koppen get shredded in playoff games.

Maybe he thinks Ty Warren coming back will be enough. I'd still like a bruiser on the other side of him though.

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:15 PM
:lmao New England trading the pick

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:16 PM
Maybe he thinks Ty Warren coming back will be enough. I'd still like a bruiser on the other side of him though.

I think Ty Warren coming back will be huge, he got surgery for an injury plaguing him for years. The problem is he's a strong side run stuffer, he can't get pressure as a 3-4 D-lineman the way Seymour could. They need someone like that.

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 07:16 PM
:lmao Pick traded

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:17 PM
:lmao New England trading the pick

You think Belichick talks to the other guys in the draft room before he trades it like, "Guys, I know we need a pass rush, but I can't pass up this chance to piss off our fans, trust me, it's going to be hilarious!"

And then calls in the trade while still in hysterical tears?

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:18 PM
Belichick is just stocking up picks so that when Brady retires, we'll be able to get the first round pick by trading our other five first round picks that year. :lmao

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:19 PM
I agree with this trade down. There's little to no talent downgrade from 60 to 73, netting pick 138 in the process is fine. BB clearly isn't impressed with the prospects so he's trading down. Maybe he's wrong, but if he's not impressed I'd rather him trade down.

daspurs
04-29-2011, 07:20 PM
Bradon harris .. hes gonna be good just not a lock down corner

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 07:21 PM
Maybe it's a hopeless prediction, but I predict pick 73 will be an OLB :lol. Beal and Houston both have the size at 3-4 OLB BB wants, plus Acho is another good prospect.

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:24 PM
I agree with this trade down. There's little to no talent downgrade from 60 to 73, netting pick 138 in the process is fine. BB clearly isn't impressed with the prospects so he's trading down. Maybe he's wrong, but if he's not impressed I'd rather him trade down.

In BB we trust. :lol

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 07:24 PM
Maybe it's a hopeless prediction, but I predict pick 73 will be an OLB :lol. Beal and Houston both have the size at 3-4 OLB BB wants, plus Acho is another good prospect.

Let's face it, it's going to be a 2nd rnd pick in 2012, or a TE. :lmao

symple19
04-29-2011, 07:27 PM
What in the goddamn fuck are the Niners fucking doing???????????????????????????

daspurs
04-29-2011, 07:32 PM
Daniel thomas ... interesting .. thought we would pick mallet

symple19
04-29-2011, 07:32 PM
Another fucking spread QB.....

Passed on Fairly and Awakumura to pick some undersized project guy yesterday..........

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NewJerSpur
04-29-2011, 07:42 PM
Isn't Goodell usually ghost on the 2nd day.....is he trying to stick around to earn browning points with the fans or does the new draft format mandate he stay because of the primetime slot?

Cam Newton #1.....I don't know much about college sports, but from afar and based on what I've heard I don't know if that would've been a lock for me, even with Carolina needing all the help they can get. With Rivera being defensive-minded I thought maybe he'd pick someone up to fill the hole Julius Peppers left early and build with the old Tampa Bay Bucs model, but it'll be interesting nontheless to see how things shake out.

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 08:05 PM
He15man.

mono must be happy

Kai
04-29-2011, 08:05 PM
Justin Houston to KC in the third. Solid player.

leemajors
04-29-2011, 08:08 PM
demarco murray?!!!?!? really? wow.

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 08:08 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao what a shitty pick

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 08:09 PM
Well mono's about to have an orgasm.

monosylab1k
04-29-2011, 08:09 PM
oh FUCK YES!

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
04-29-2011, 08:09 PM
Man, it's like the Pats and Lions are in a race to see who can neglect their needs the longest.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
04-29-2011, 08:10 PM
What's the rundown on the # of picks left for the Pats?

monosylab1k
04-29-2011, 08:11 PM
Finally the Patriots make a solid pick!

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 08:11 PM
He15man.

mono must be happy

Ironstradaumus.

Kai
04-29-2011, 08:12 PM
Ridley

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Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 08:12 PM
Holy fuck the Cowboys got DeMarco Murray!!!

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Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 08:13 PM
yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye syesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesy esyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesye 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Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 08:13 PM
I don't have a problem at all with that Mallett pick, but the Ridley pick was all kinds of retarded

monosylab1k
04-29-2011, 08:15 PM
I don't have a problem at all with that Mallett pick, but the Ridley pick was all kinds of retarded

lol two shitty running backs.

belichick redeemed himself tho. He might as well light up a cigar and go Ditka the rest of the draft.

Booharv
04-29-2011, 08:16 PM
Finally the Patriots make a solid pick!

Best player in the draft imho.

Axe Murderer
04-29-2011, 08:17 PM
demarco murray?!!!?!? really? wow.

This guy is gonna be solid if he can stay healthy. I've actually been on record for saying I would love him in a Cowboy uniform even though I knew it was a slim chance.

The "3 headed monster" is dead. Marion Barber is done, Felix Jones is fast and that's about it, and Tashard Choice is average. The Cowboys needed to upgrade in that area

Great fucking pick!
:danceclub:danceclub:danceclub

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 08:17 PM
Vereen isn't shitty. Cal's running game didn't have much of a setback at all replacing Best with Vereen (but the impact he'll have on New England is limited). Ridley I know nothing about I just know Jeremy Beal woulda done more than a 3rd rounder picked as the 4th string RB.

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 08:30 PM
Raiders and Pats always dealing. Not surprised

symple19
04-29-2011, 08:40 PM
Oh yeah, now the Niners go and pick a CB who....

... Is a 6' 195 pile of goddamn shit, who I don't even remember from either Auburn game against USCe. He had 34 tackles and 1 FF last year.... NO PICKS

I'm going to go break things now

symple19
04-29-2011, 08:41 PM
Yay

I get to watch the Spurs get embarrassed while the Niners are making facepalm-a-riffic picks

LnGrrrR
04-29-2011, 08:56 PM
:lol Draft Countdown is rather low on Mallet...

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/QB/Ryan-Mallett.php

Compare to Bledsoe, but more likely Derek Anderson. Ouch :lol

symple19
04-29-2011, 08:59 PM
All Mallett has to do is keep his head on straight and he'll be successful in the league. It will help that he can learn and grow under Brady's wing without having all the pressure on from the get-go

granted, it's a big if whether he can stay focused, but if he does I think he'll be the best QB in this draft.

He's basically the prototype, with the exception of some reported character issues and being a bit below average mobility-wise. Learned under one of the better offensive(pro-style) minds in college football in one of the toughest conferences. Tall, rocket Arm, quick release. Watched him a lot during college and was usually impressed.

One more possible negative is late game management. He was less than stellar a few times last year, but also won some tough, close games. Including on the road. The latter goes for the year before as well, when he had a laughable defense and still managed to pass Arky to wins.

Anyway, I would have taken him before any of the others so far, including Cam...

Reggie Williams
04-29-2011, 09:18 PM
Fucking AWESOME.

I LOVE Daniel Thomas. Dude is fucking BEAST

Booharv
04-29-2011, 09:29 PM
All Mallett has to do is keep his head on straight and he'll be successful in the league. It will help that he can learn and grow under Brady's wing without having all the pressure on from the get-go

granted, it's a big if whether he can stay focused, but if he does I think he'll be the best QB in this draft

6'6, rocket arm (best in draft), actually took that handoff from center the pros like unlike Gabbert and Newton, produced at a high level in college (unlike Gabbert and Locker who put up Ken O'Brien type numbers last year), and played in a pro style offense. He can't run but neither could run Marino or a ton of other elite qbs. Dude will be a fucking stud.

Kyle Orton
04-29-2011, 09:35 PM
I scoff Mallett and have my doubts about how good he'll be, but :lmao Ponder and that Nevada scrub going before him.

symple19
04-29-2011, 09:46 PM
my favorite pick so far is Randall Cobb to the packers. He'll be a fantastic all purpose type guy, can really do it all.

He beat Auburn on the road as a freshman when he had to step up and play QB (forget whether he was recruited to play QB or not) after the starter went down. Basically just running a wildcat.

Saw him in person last year and he was, offensively, easily the second best player on the field after Cam. Very dynamic, fast, elusive, good hands, and not a bad blocker. He certainly isn't afraid of contact. Can run the wildcat, return kicks, and play either RB or WR. I've seen him do all those things in one game. A great weapon for Aaron Rodgers

symple19
04-29-2011, 09:50 PM
I scoff Mallett and have my doubts about how good he'll be, but :lmao Ponder and that Nevada scrub going before him.

that's fair, and a lot do. For some legit reasons.

As for whateverthefuckhisnameis, I went outside, had a beer, and burned a phonebook when I saw that shit :lol

Niner draft so far = fecal matter

symple19
04-29-2011, 09:54 PM
Kaepernick(?) has to be a project, which means another year of Smith. Doomed to mediocrity (at best) again...

IronMexican
04-29-2011, 11:06 PM
I'd definitely take Kaepernick over Mallet

Kai
04-29-2011, 11:28 PM
So who do you guys think has had the best draft so far?

Axe Murderer
04-30-2011, 11:44 AM
Taylor Potts, QB from Texas Tech, is gonna be a sleeper in the 7th round

He has the pocket awareness of Brady, quick release of Marino, Manning's accuracy, and McNabb's arm.

djohn2oo8
04-30-2011, 11:46 AM
Damn, we get two 5th rounders and a 4th from Washington

IronMexican
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
Taiwan Jones is such a Raider pick. This is where you draft upside. Not on a 7th overall pick, like DHB.

LnGrrrR
04-30-2011, 12:37 PM
So who do you guys think has had the best draft so far?

Cleveland for now.

Venti Quattro
04-30-2011, 12:52 PM
Cleveland for now.

Kai
04-30-2011, 02:43 PM
Funny how we joke about Belichick making trades just for the sake of making a trade, and now they actually do just that. Eagles and Patriots swap picks 193 and 194 straight up. Nothing else involved.

LnGrrrR
04-30-2011, 03:04 PM
Wonder if the Pats will look at DEs/OLBs in free agency... Any good names out there.

LnGrrrR
04-30-2011, 03:05 PM
Funny how we joke about Belichick making trades just for the sake of making a trade, and now they actually do just that. Eagles and Patriots swap picks 193 and 194 straight up. Nothing else involved.

:lol I'm telling ya, Belichick just likes fucking with people.

JamStone
04-30-2011, 03:25 PM
So who do you guys think has had the best draft so far?

Buffalo Bills. Their top 4 picks are all very good players and were very good value where they were selected.

And I know with a lot of Pats fans on this board, they're very critical and cynical. But I actually think the Patriots had a very good draft. But it's on the strength of what they did later in the draft. Getting Mallett alone in the third makes their draft look pretty good. But I think the Ras-I Dowling pick was solid. And the pick that really did it for me was getting Marcus Cannon in the fifth round. He was a guy I wanted the Lions to target in the third round. And I recall reading mocks and prospect ratings projecting him to go as high as the second round. Not all that thrilled about their first pick. But after that, I think the mad scientist had a very good draft.

Isitjustme?
04-30-2011, 05:30 PM
mcshay looks like a doofus...mix in a haircut

Isitjustme?
04-30-2011, 05:31 PM
Dilfer's a tool.

Isitjustme?
04-30-2011, 05:31 PM
Someone really needs to remind him that he's Trent Dilfer.

Isitjustme?
04-30-2011, 05:33 PM
Any time you can get an undersized ginger that played in the spread in the mountain west, you have to do it.

Axe Murderer
04-30-2011, 06:25 PM
Someone really needs to remind him that he's Trent Dilfer.

+10000000

any swinging dick could've played QB for the Ravens in 2000 and won the superbowl with that defense. He just happened to be the lucky one and now he thinks he's entitled to talk shit about anyone

Isitjustme?
04-30-2011, 08:02 PM
Now that the Draft and with it the NFL is out of the way for a while, it will be nice not to have to hear every douche bag saying "due diligence" every other sentence.