$3.5 million US AID spent per day on Eqypt's Military

[sickdsm]

Per recent Time article. It would assume how its worded that this has been an accurate amount for some time now. Remember, this is JUST the military.

Do we REALLY need to give that much aid for the middle east when we're talking about SS and Health Care? Wonder what it would take to stop policing the rest of the world and focus on at home......

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You ARE focusing on at home. It always baffles me how people fail to understand how important diplomacy is with regards to national security and American interests abroad. War isn't the only means of getting what you want.

[sickdsm]

Subsidizing the mid east to keep the status quo in order to protect the interest of our oil supply?


Tell me, what Govt. aspect do you use/appreciate that you would like to cut in order to keep funding foreign military's?


Do you want to continue being the world's police?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Subsidizing the mid east to keep the status quo in order to protect the interest of our oil supply?


Tell me, what Govt. aspect do you use/appreciate that you would like to cut in order to keep funding foreign military's?


Do you want to continue being the world's police?

First of all, you'll notice I'm not American, hence the flag. Second of all, nobody appointed the US "World Police". You are however its most powerful nation with ties to and businesses with almost every nation in the world. It wouldn't be in your best interests not to mention completely unrealistic to expect the US to simply "let the world be". Plus if you think this is subsidizing you're being naive. Anyone who thinks the US is getting nothing from this is either ignorant or deluded.

I don't particularly like how the US "polices" the world in a lot of instances, but I'm not in the camp with those who think the world OR the US would benefit from them not doing so at all.

[BlairForceDejuan]

You ARE focusing on at home. It always baffles me how people fail to understand how important diplomacy is with regards to national security and American interests abroad. War isn't the only means of getting what you want.


I still say we pull out completely and take the last man standing tbh

[Wild Cobra]

I thought that was the cost to operate the Stargate.

[George Gervin's Afro]

First of all, you'll notice I'm not American, hence the flag. Second of all, nobody appointed the US "World Police". You are however its most powerful nation with ties to and businesses with almost every nation in the world. It wouldn't be in your best interests not to mention completely unrealistic to expect the US to simply "let the world be". Plus if you think this is subsidizing you're being naive. Anyone who thinks the US is getting nothing from this is either ignorant or deluded.

I don't particularly like how the US "polices" the world in a lot of instances, but I'm not in the camp with those who think the world OR the US would benefit from them not doing so at all.

Haven't you heard? The GOP transformed from not being-the-world-police party to the liberators/ nation building party... of course their platform flipped flopped when a dem was in office at the time..

[4>0rings]

It would be hilarious if current day Egypt went to war with Israel again and they both used American provided weapons to fight each other. :lol

[Bartleby]

I thought that was the cost to operate the Stargate.

:lol

(I don't think the blue font was needed, but funny nonetheless)

[CosmicCowboy]

It would be hilarious if current day Egypt went to war with Israel again and they both used American provided weapons to fight each other. :lol

No shit. Egypt has the 4th largest fleet of F-16's in the world and actually has a factory producing M1A1 Abrams tanks.

[boutons_deux]

The Palestine Papers, or How Everything You Thought You Knew about the Peace Process Was Wrong

And that's why Netanyahu told his ministers, "We are closely monitoring events in Egypt and the region and are making efforts to preserve its security and stability." He knows that a dictatorial Egypt guarding Israel's southern flank is the best insurance for continuing the occupation or coddling the PA into selling out its people. Without Mubarak or a likeminded substitute - perhaps, they pray, as the situation in Egypt slips out of control, Mohamed ElBaradei, the former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, will maintain the peace treaty - a reconfiguration of the regional map looms, and with it will come an end to the Israeli occupation.

For that reason, among others, Israel and America are both hoping that Mubarak is able to beat back or tamp down his people's revolutionary surge, or at least prevent any real change in the matrix of power in Egypt. As revolution and counterrevolution duel in Tahrir Square, the outcome of the struggle is far from determined. But one can be sure that Israel, the PA and America alike are watching closely and intervening as they can, desperate to put the regional system of Israeli-American domination in stasis, and worrying anxiously that the revolution in Egypt will succeed and bring that system crashing down.

http://www.truth-out.org/print/67611

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Israel and oil is all America really cares about.

Democracy?

Freedom?

Peace?

GMAFB

[Winehole23]

Egypt is strategically important. Maintaining ties is probably more important than saving a few bucks there. That said, I'm basically sympathetic to reversing the post WWII trend.

[Winehole23]

Re: $3.5 million US AID spent per day on Eqypt's Military

Do we REALLY need to give that much aid for the middle east when we're talking about SS and Health Care? Is it that too much to spend on Egypt? Would the proper level of aid be zero dollars?

[LnGrrrR]

:lol

(I don't think the blue font was needed, but funny nonetheless)

I second that appreciation. Good one WC.

[DMX7]

We give it to them as a bribe in exchange for access to their air space and strategic military access points. Maintaining an empire is expensive.

[sickdsm]

Is it that too much to spend on Egypt? Would the proper level of aid be zero dollars?


I dunno, apparently if your not from this country and don't pay taxes you have a better grasp on what the US needs to do with their dollar than I do.

[jacobdrj]

I thought that was the cost to operate the Stargate.

Post of the week...

[Winehole23]

I dunno, apparently if your not from this country and don't pay taxes you have a better grasp on what the US needs to do with their dollar than I do.I'm from SA, if that still counts.

[Winehole23]

Born in Texas, lived here all my life.

[Winehole23]

Pay taxes and so forth. Is proof of these somehow required to have a valid and respectable opinion around here?

Did you really just play the native card on me? Bold. :lol:toast

[Winehole23]

I see how you are.

[Winehole23]

You remind me of a lot of those mean Texas mfers I grew up with back in the 70 and 80s. Mean as hell, but definitely more bark than bite. You're way off with the insinuation I'm foreign.

Fucking jackass. :lol



(grumble fist)

[sickdsm]

Do you just drunk and pissy at night or what? I wasn't even talking about you. Why don't you read again to see where I was coming from.

Fucking jackass.

[Winehole23]

Do you just drunk and pissy at night or what?Sometimes I drunk and pissy at night. Is that allowed?

I wasn't even talking about you. Could have fooled me. Who were you talking about?

[Winehole23]

(Putting distance between yourself and what you directly said to me, is probably a smart move, even though it's also essentially a wuss move.

[Winehole23]

I see how you are now.

[Winehole23]

Too wuss to stand behind the clear meaning of what you said. Figures.

[CosmicCowboy]

Well, giving him the benefit of the doubt it has been 5 hours since he last posted in this thread. Maybe he's not poised over the keyboard just waiting for your reply?

[Winehole23]

@sickdsm:

Even if you claim you were using the impersonal you rather than addressing me directly, the inference is exactly the same. I'm eager to see how you gloss it. This should be a good one.

[Winehole23]

Well, giving him the benefit of the doubt it has been 5 hours since he last posted in this thread.The passage of time doesn't attenuate his wuss move. The words are still there. If he runs away from them, they do not vanish for everyone else.

Maybe he's not poised over the keyboard just waiting for your reply? I don't think I passed any comment at all on cooler girl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4930933&postcount=93)'s state of readiness/eagerness to respond, but it wouldn't surprise me if he ignored me entirely. It's totally like him to duck wicked burns and questions that are too hard for him.

[Winehole23]

And totally impossible to admit he goofed, apparently.

[Winehole23]

Instead of claiming his mistake like a man, he attempts to wriggle out with bald denials, like a 14 year old cooler girl.

[Winehole23]

I suppose you could claim that despite quoting my words in the post you were responding somehow to your own OP which you neither posted nor linked, but waved at in passing. Or to another poster.

Your clarification would be much appreciated.

[Winehole23]

(though not strictly required here, many posters provide a link for their OP as well as some of the text as a courtesy to others.)

[sickdsm]

First of all, you'll notice I'm not American, hence the flag. .....................

:rolleyes

[Winehole23]

You were playing the native card on MNMNA. cooler girl shows his clASS.

Can you not see how that was a total non-sequitur in addition to being a complete evasion of the question you were apparently responding to?

[sickdsm]

Are you too stupid to type in the URL for Time and look at the recent article or just too lazy?

Contrary to what you may believe, some info is received from neither the internet or TV. I take nasty ass shits so I subscribe to Time so I have a few days of butt clenching reading I can do on the shitter. Do you expect me to take my magazine that's been flagged, scan it, upload it, and post that for your convenience?

[sickdsm]

You were playing the native card on MNMNA. cooler girl shows his clASS.

Can you not see how that was a total non-sequitur in addition to being a complete evasion of the question you were apparently responding to?


Someone who I now assume is from Israel (That is the Israel flag, right?) talking about the need for the US to continue to provide foreign aid. Right. You might as well have a pimp writing the laws regarding prostitution.

[Winehole23]

Are you too stupid to type in the URL for Time and look at the recent article or just too lazy?Suit yourself. See how many great threads come from topics you're too lazy to actually post.

[Winehole23]

Someone who I now assume is from Israel (That is the Israel flag, right?) talking about the need for the US to continue to provide foreign aid. Right. You might as well have a pimp writing the laws regarding prostitution.In before the edit.

[Winehole23]

nice1, cooler girl :lol

[Winehole23]

I take nasty ass shits so I subscribe to Time so I have a few days of butt clenching reading I can do on the shitter. Do you expect me to take my magazine that's been flagged, scan it, upload it, and post that for your convenience?TMI. You don't have to have a tantrum about it. You're allowed to uphold non serviam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_serviam) with respect to netiquette.

[sickdsm]

In before the edit.


Why would I edit it? If nothing i had to actually google the flag and squint at the star design.


My comments are still the same, and it should be obvious to everyone else i wasn't referring to you, I don't care about you enough to do that.

Charity is a little different when its not your money being given away, is it not?

[sickdsm]

Post a few more comments, i'm going to be away for a while. I'm sure i'll get trashed for not responding to you and my manhood will apparently be questioned as to why i'm not responding AT THIS MINUTE.

Thanks for clarifying the "cooler girl" comments with that edited quote. I thought it was very fitting of you to have an imaginary conversation with someone prior to me understanding what you were trying to do.

[Winehole23]

Why would I edit it? If nothing i had to actually google the flag and squint at the star design.It is small, but it was instantly recognizable as Argentina's flag to me. Are you, btw, a basketball fan?

My comments are still the same, and it should be obvious to everyone else i wasn't referring to you, I don't care about you enough to do that.What a relief.

Charity is a little different when its not your money being given away, is it not?You're askin me to back up your bs? No way.

And btw, fuck you for trying to brush off a regular poster of above average intelligence and wit like that. Doing so reflects an unseemly lack of maturity and class IMHO.

We get posters from all over the world on this board, you just started posting in this forum the other day. You'd do well to keep that in mind, and to recall that you're making some first impressions now.

I don't discount MNMNA's credibility the slightest for merely being not from the USA. If you do, you need to take that up with somebody else.

[Winehole23]

Thanks for clarifying the "cooler girl" comments with that edited quote.You're welcome.

I thought it was very fitting of you to have an imaginary conversation with someone prior to me understanding what you were trying to do.It was based on your imaginary conversation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4930933&postcount=93) with ChumpDumper, so you deserve part credit. That is very fitting too.

[Winehole23]

Thanks for clarifying the "cooler girl" comments with that edited quote1:40 pm (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4967944&postcount=37) refutes this.

[Winehole23]

http://image2.onlineauction.com/auctions//42343/ncsp-1069742-1.jpg

[Winehole23]

http://www.wenublog.com/wp-content/images/Israel%20Flag.jpg

[sickdsm]

Pretty easy when its a big picture and i'm looking for it. Otherwise, i have no reason to know what argentina's flag looks like. Blue white blue with an emblem in the middle.

How dare I post anything, i've obviously just registered on this site two weeks ago.

I'm not that much of a basketball fan anymore. Without a reason to watch, mainly kg, i find teams that are of no interest to me boring. I'll catch a few games now and then though. Nothing like the NFL where two teams that are horrible late in the season still give it their all every second. But thanks for caring about my leisure time.


Go round up some meth, or whatever it is trash like you do these days.

[Winehole23]

Pretty easy when its a big picture and i'm looking for it. Too hard for you? What a surprise...

How dare I post anything, i've obviously just registered on this site two weeks ago.Post anything you want. You already showed your ass. Talking can't fix that, cooler girl.

I'm not that much of a basketball fan anymore. Without a reason to watch, mainly kg, i find teams that are of no interest to me boring. I'll catch a few games now and then though. Nothing like the NFL where two teams that are horrible late in the season still give it their all every second. But thanks for caring about my leisure time.It was a conceit. I don't really care. For some reason, I thought you cared about basketball. My bad.

Go round up some meth, or whatever it is trash like you do these days.Rounding up meth? Trash like me?

You must not be too familiar with the trolls around here. Seriously, dude, on the irritation scale, that barely registered. Put down your purse next time.

[Winehole23]

(Braaappp!)

[Danny.Zhu]

These money should be invested in Taiwan instead...

[symple19]

Wino on the attack, awesome

lol thinking that the Argentine flag was Israel's

[MannyIsGod]

Pretty easy when its a big picture and i'm looking for it. Otherwise, i have no reason to know what argentina's flag looks like. Blue white blue with an emblem in the middle.

How dare I post anything, i've obviously just registered on this site two weeks ago.

I'm not that much of a basketball fan anymore. Without a reason to watch, mainly kg, i find teams that are of no interest to me boring. I'll catch a few games now and then though. Nothing like the NFL where two teams that are horrible late in the season still give it their all every second. But thanks for caring about my leisure time.


Go round up some meth, or whatever it is trash like you do these days.

Someone who can't identify the differences between an Argentinian flag and the flag of Israel should probably never make a post about anything having to do with our foreign policy.

If thats how intellectuality lazy you are then you should stick to planting flowers and leave the hard flag identifications to people who actually care enough to learn a bit about them.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Someone who I now assume is from Israel (That is the Israel flag, right?) talking about the need for the US to continue to provide foreign aid. Right. You might as well have a pimp writing the laws regarding prostitution.

:lol

Look, I'm not even going to give you grief about not being able to tell the difference between the Israeli flag and the Argentinian flag. The fact that you resorted to mentioning where I come from in an attempt to discredit my point says enough, whether you thought I was from Israel, China or your next door neighbor.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I just finished reading the thread. I see everyone gave you enough grief already :lol

[BlairForceDejuan]

Fucking Israel. Just move. Move to Canada, move to Wisconsin, repopulate the Appalachian. We continue to piss away billions in that perma-shithole known as the middle-east while we do little to slow down the inevitable. The cavemen are going to get Nukes.

If God really favored you, you'd be harvesting oil and not growing peaches. Time to throw in the towel and let the Middle East do what it's going to do.

U.S. aiding Egypt. What. is. that. shit. Land of the Pharaohs and Sphinx can't even take care of themselves? We look like Anubis to ya'll? Have some self-respect from whence you came Egyptian bros. You used to sport 10 year old leaders and still do pretty good. Crack open a pyramid, let a mummy return, and handle your own shit. Oh no, the Suez Canal. Getting cut off from foreign aid will force us to become more independent.

[boutons_deux]

AIPAC's $$$ certainly keep UCA commited to Israel, but much more important for the UCA in the M/E is the oil.

Did anybody miss this?

Gas Field Confirmed Off Coast of Israel

JERUSALEM — Exploratory drilling off Israel’s northern coast this week has confirmed the existence of a major natural gas field — one of the world’s largest offshore gas finds of the past decade — leading the country’s infrastructure minister to call it “the most important energy news since the founding of the state.”

Houston-based Noble Energy, which is working with several Israeli partner companies, said that the field, named Leviathan, whose existence was suspected months ago, has at least 16 trillion cubic feet of gas at a likely market value of tens of billions of dollars and should turn Israel into an energy exporter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/31/world/middleeast/31leviathan.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

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So now UCA's gascos will be all over Israel to get at that gas.

[sickdsm]

Someone who can't identify the differences between an Argentinian flag and the flag of Israel should probably never make a post about anything having to do with our foreign policy.

If thats how intellectuality lazy you are then you should stick to planting flowers and leave the hard flag identifications to people who actually care enough to learn a bit about them.

I assume you can accurately ID every flag by a tiny pict?


My comments are the same whether your from Turkey or Tunsia. When you're not paying in or even a citizen, do you really think I'm going to give a shit where you think MY money should go?


Do you think you'd be listened to if you went down to some frat house and told them they should get some O'doul's and Tequila Rose instead of a keg with their money?

[ChumpDumper]

When you're not paying in or even a citizen, do you really think I'm going to give a shit where you think MY money should go?Do you really give a shit if what anyone thinks if different from what you think?

[sickdsm]

I value what RG says. And that's more than ANYONE here will say regarding someone else's viewpoints.


Do you even think in multiple sentences?

[Winehole23]

I value what RG says. And that's more than ANYONE here will say regarding someone else's viewpoints.No, it's not. You just think you're special.



(Don't sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back, cooler girl. )