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Yonivore
02-11-2011, 11:01 PM
...another promise.

Tea Party wins: $100 billion in cuts in House GOP spending bill (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/143641-tea-party-wins-house-gop-spending-bill-cuts-at-least-100-billion)

4>0rings
02-11-2011, 11:19 PM
...another promise.

Tea Party wins: $100 billion in cuts in House GOP spending bill (http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/143641-tea-party-wins-house-gop-spending-bill-cuts-at-least-100-billion)
I can't tell if this is like those x-rays at airports, a ruse at safety just to make the passangers calm and think they are secure.

Are these budget cuts going to make a dent in the whole of things or is this a ruse to get votes knowing 100 billion wouldn't reduce shit in our debt or spending but making it seem like they are doing something about it.

ElNono
02-11-2011, 11:20 PM
Promises are meaningless if they don't go through... they better learn what the word "compromise" means if they want to pass anything...

Nbadan
02-11-2011, 11:29 PM
Yoni is right about one thing...another promise is being kept to the wingnut constituency...


In response to complaints from rank-and-file Republicans that the party was not fulfilling a campaign promise to roll back domestic spending this year by $100 billion, the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee said his panel would abandon its initial plan and draw up a new one to slice spending more aggressively.

.............sniP

Senate Democrats, who will have to negotiate with their Republican counterparts in the House, quickly criticized the plan, accusing Republicans of slashing too deeply into programs like community law enforcement while refusing to end subsidies to powerful allies like the oil industry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/us/politics/11congres...

Capt Bringdown
02-11-2011, 11:55 PM
Any discussion of reducing the budget must necessarily start with our Military spending. Notice that we never go there, it's alway about social spending.

What we're seeing is an alliance between neocon and neoliberal forces to devastate the commons, a market-driven race to the bottom. Not to mention an apparently brain-dead public that appears to enjoy having a boot pressed to their necks.

I shudder to think what a Cairo moment would look like in the US. The masses take to the streets to demand more hours and less pay? More tax cuts for the wealthy? More privatization?

DMX7
02-12-2011, 01:50 AM
Republicans are hopelessly quixotic. It's sad really.

ChumpDumper
02-12-2011, 05:18 AM
lol oil subsidies

Yeah, they're serious....

Stringer_Bell
02-12-2011, 06:06 AM
lol oil subsidies

Yeah, they're serious....

Okay, hot shot, let's see how you answer this one...who makes more money in an economy ravaged by Obama's policies, an economy desperate for bright spots - community law enforcement or the oil industry?

100 billion in savings might be a drop in the bucket, but a drop-in da bucket is better than a drop-out da bucket. Read it and weep, libtards!
http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2011/02_february/weekend021211/programcuts.pdf

ChumpDumper
02-12-2011, 06:15 AM
:lol

Wild Cobra
02-12-2011, 09:46 AM
I can't tell if this is like those x-rays at airports, a ruse at safety just to make the passangers calm and think they are secure.

Are these budget cuts going to make a dent in the whole of things or is this a ruse to get votes knowing 100 billion wouldn't reduce shit in our debt or spending but making it seem like they are doing something about it.
Thing is, we need to cut everywhere we can. To take the attitude that it's not a large enough cut defeats the purpose of cutting. We simply need to find more places to cut.

boutons_deux
02-12-2011, 01:48 PM
destroy the EPA while maintaining $5B subsidies and tax breaks to the oil/gas/coalcos.

yep, the tea baggers are doing EXACTLY as their financiers the Kock Bros want.

Wild Cobra
02-12-2011, 01:52 PM
destroy the EPA while maintaining $5B subsidies and tax breaks to the oil/gas/coalcos.

yep, the tea baggers are doing EXACTLY as their financiers the Kock Bros want.
LOL... It does nothing to destroy the EPA.

Stop being so melodramatic.

boutons_deux
02-12-2011, 02:42 PM
"On Wednesday, the House appropriations' leader proposed slicing more than $1.6 billion from Obama's $10 billion EPA budget request this year."

"Congress intends to reassert itself in the statutory and regulatory process at EPA and specifically the Clean Air Act," Rep. Ed Whitfield, R-Ky.,

Last month, during a speech in Iowa, Gingrich proposed abolishing the EPA and replacing it with an "Environmental Solutions Agency."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2011/02/obamas-epa-is-bulls-eye-of-house-gop-budget-cuts/1

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While EPA won't be abolished, just floating the insane idea of abolishing the EPA makes cutting the EPA back to total impotence seem more acceptable.

Oh, Gee!!
02-13-2011, 03:32 AM
The CR was immediately rejected by the lead appropriator in the Senate.

“It is clear from this proposal that House Republicans are committed to pursuing an ineffective approach to deficit reduction that attempts to balance the budget on the back of domestic discretionary investments, which constitute only a small percentage of overall federal spending. The priorities identified in this proposal for some of the largest cuts - environmental protection, healthcare, energy, science and law enforcement - are essential to the current and future well-being of our economy and communities across the country," Senate Appropriations Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) said in a statement.

“I am disturbed that some Republicans have indicated a willingness to allow a government shutdown. No responsible elected official should even consider such an option," he added.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) also dismissed it.

“Although Democrats have repeatedly urged them to join us in responsibly cutting waste and excess, Republicans have taken a meat ax to the initiatives that invest in our economy and create jobs for the sake of appeasing their base," he said.

how exactly does yoni define success?

Oh, Gee!!
02-13-2011, 03:33 AM
i'm getting the sneaking suspicion that yoni only reads headlines

boutons_deux
02-14-2011, 11:05 AM
Despite Earmark Ban, Boehner Brings Home Pork-Barrel Defense Project That Pentagon Doesn’t Want


Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) likes to tout his opposition to earmarks. Indeed, since first entering Congress in 1991, the congressman has never requested a single earmark. And one of his caucus’s first moves in the new Congress has been to renew a voluntary earmark ban in the House of Representatives, making good on a major campaign promise.

Yet as CAP Senior Fellow Scott Lilly reveals in a new analysis, “No, He Wouldn’t—Would He?,” Boehner and House Republicans appear to have included an earmark-in-all-but-name for the new Speaker’s district in the newly released House Appropriations Continuing Resolution (CR). The CR includes massive cuts to important programs like Head Start and LIHEAP, but one thing it doesn’t cut is $450 million stashed away for the construction of a Joint Strike Fighter engine the Pentagon doesn’t even want.

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/14/despite-earmark-boehner-engine/

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Repugs' "agenda" on track:

protect and enrich the wealthy and corps, esp the MIC and financial sectors,

while cutting spending for the non-lobbying poor, sick, young, old who can't afford to buy protection and enrichment.

The MIC has spread its operations into many states and Congressional district in order to buy Congressmen to vote for corporate socialism, confiscating from taxpayers to enrich the MIC.

So let's see if the astroturfing, Kock Bros-shilling tea baggers are gonna object to MIC and other Repug pork.

George Gervin's Afro
02-14-2011, 12:59 PM
I guess the tea pottiers are ok with 100 billion dollars in cuts that will actually never happen.