View Full Version : CBS reporter beaten and sexually assaulted
sickdsm
02-16-2011, 12:05 AM
We have a thread fantasising about doing republican women but no thread about the reporter being "surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating"?
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – CBS correspondent Lara Logan was beaten and sexually assaulted by a mob while covering the jubilation in Cairo's Tahrir Square on the day Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stepped down, the U.S. broadcasting network said Tuesday.
Logan, a 39-year-old South Africa native and longtime war correspondent, has since flown back to the United States and is recovering in hospital. She was one of dozens of journalists attacked during the three weeks of protests throughout Egypt.
CBS News said in a statement Logan was covering the celebrations for CBS's "60 Minutes" program on February 11 when she and her team were surrounded by "a mob of more than 200 people whipped into a frenzy."
"In the crush of the mob, she was separated from her crew. She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers," CBS said.
Logan made her name as a war correspondent for Britain's GMTV during the start of the U.S.-led Afghanistan war in 2001 and subsequently reported on the war in Iraq and its violent aftermath. She joined CBS News in 2002.
The Committee to Protect Journalists, a media watchdog group, said at least 52 journalists were attacked and 76 were imprisoned during the unrest in Egypt that led Mubarak to step down after 30 years in power. All have been released, it said.
One journalist, Ahmad Mohamed Mahmoud of the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ta'awun, was killed while filming clashes near Tahrir Square, the CPJ said.
"Egypt's old regime orchestrated a ferocious campaign to stop the news of this movement for change," Paul Steiger, a member of the CPJ's board and former managing editor of The Wall Street Journal said.
He was speaking at a news conference to discuss the group's annual report, which examined working conditions for journalists in more than 100 countries. It said 44 journalists were killed and 145 were imprisoned in 2010.
The number of deaths marked a sharp drop from the 71 recorded in 2009. The high toll that year stemmed from a massacre in the Philippines in which at least 34 journalists died -- the single deadliest event for journalists ever.
Pakistan was the deadliest country for journalists in 2010, with eight killed, followed by Iraq with five. Indonesia, Mexico and Honduras followed, each with three reporters slain.
This year's report highlights the increasing importance of web-based journalism. In 2010, 69 journalists whose work appeared primarily online were jailed, according to the CPJ.
Steiger said attacks on Internet journalists, which often include cyberattacks and attacks on websites, must be closely monitored.
"The often invisible, sophisticated attacks constitute a new front in the fight for press freedom," he said. "We need to pay close attention to Internet censorship."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110215/ts_nm/us_egypt_journalists
Nbadan
02-16-2011, 12:09 AM
She's no Helen Thomas...
http://freerangeinternational.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/lara_logan_1.jpg
...hope she recovers..
sickdsm
02-16-2011, 12:18 AM
I could care less about what she looked like. Really brings down the whole perception of how good this revolution worked out when shit like this happens.
Nbadan
02-16-2011, 12:49 AM
I could care less about what she looked like. Really brings down the whole perception of how good this revolution worked out when shit like this happens.
It's unfortunate, but not the fault of the revolution..
ChumpDumper
02-16-2011, 12:51 AM
She's probably pro-life and therefore deserved it.
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 02:48 AM
I could care less about what she looked like. Really brings down the whole perception of how good this revolution worked out when shit like this happens.You think this is bad? Just wait, cooler girl. As bad as this is, things can get way worse.
admiralsnackbar
02-16-2011, 03:02 AM
My buddy Mike is interviewing Nir Rosen tomorrow morning. Hopefully they don't go there.
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 03:07 AM
Hard to resist, I would think:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/02/maybe-this-nir-rosen-person-should-reconsider-tweeting/71343/
Stringer_Bell
02-16-2011, 04:10 AM
I was skeptical by CBS's public attitude to Logan's attack...just putting it out there, allowing people to believe she was raped as WOMEN and 20 soldiers came to her aid? I just don't understand the rush to put that information out there...she has a husband and child, a family, but it seems like a build-up to her writing a book about her war experiences as a woman in the field.
Granted, I was horrified when I heard the story. A white woman has NO BUSINESS in a mob of Middle Eastern men, it's the truth. The fact that CBS put her there is criminal to me, and I assume she cut some sort of deal with them. Heck, we don't even know if she was raped...sexual assault has a lot of meanings, especially with no way to prosecute the guilty mob.
But yea, it looks bad on the protesters, we'll see how this pans out in the next weeks when she starts doing interviews.
DarrinS
02-16-2011, 07:44 AM
Hard to resist, I would think:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/02/maybe-this-nir-rosen-person-should-reconsider-tweeting/71343/
That must be the new civility I've been hearing about.
BlairForceDejuan
02-16-2011, 09:27 AM
Beautiful blue eyed blonde haired woman venturing into the the middle of thousands of pissed off Egyptian peasants, solid plan.
ElNono
02-16-2011, 09:37 AM
Hope she gets well... that said, she didn't know what the risks were walking into a mob in a country which was basically lawless?
I'm not justifying the outcome, I'm merely questioning the judgement of going in there in the first place.
And please, no blond jokes.
Wild Cobra
02-16-2011, 10:07 AM
Beautiful blue eyed blonde haired woman venturing into the the middle of thousands of pissed off Egyptian peasants, solid plan.
Maybe someone was prejudiced of white South Africans?
Viva Las Espuelas
02-16-2011, 10:50 AM
A horrible horrible incident. When I first saw another headline on it I thought she just got physically assaulted. I hope she recovers as best and as quick as she can.
It's unfortunate, but not the fault of the revolution..There's practically no government. What/who are you blaming? Or is this just a casualty of war?
hater
02-16-2011, 10:58 AM
Seriously, what the fuck did these idiot reporters think???? It was not a game. Fuckers were for real out ther.
No revolution is 100% peaceful. wake up. you go out there on your own risk.
Bartleby
02-16-2011, 11:05 AM
Hope she gets well... that said, she didn't know what the risks were walking into a mob in a country which was basically lawless?
Considering she was a war correspondent, I would think/hope she fully understood the risks (not saying she "had it coming" but she had to know the dangers of that sort of situation).
Viva Las Espuelas
02-16-2011, 11:44 AM
My buddy Mike is interviewing the newly unemployed Nir Rosen tomorrow morning. Hopefully they don't go there.
:toast
lefty
02-16-2011, 12:08 PM
Seriously, what the fuck did these idiot reporters think???? It was not a game. Fuckers were for real out ther.
No revolution is 100% peaceful. wake up. you go out there on your own risk.
I 100% agree
Yes, those assaulters are total SOB's, but if I were a reporter, I wouldn't go there
If you want sensationalism, you have to be ready to pay the price
boutons_deux
02-16-2011, 12:12 PM
Just another pretty, blond, Euro-American white girl in the news.
Would there would any sympathy if foreigner, dark-haired, ethnic/Iranian Christiane Amanpour were the "accuser" (as the Repugs want to call rape victims).
TeyshaBlue
02-16-2011, 12:23 PM
Yes, there would be.
CosmicCowboy
02-16-2011, 12:44 PM
She had quite the rep as a married man chasing home wrecker when she was stationed in Baghdad. Had multiple guys literally fighting over her. Not saying it's wrong, just saying it happened.
CosmicCowboy
02-16-2011, 01:13 PM
Besides, it was her fault. She should have been wearing her Burqa. Everyone knows how uncovered womens faces/bodies just drive those sand savages wild.
boutons_deux
02-16-2011, 01:33 PM
yep, just another "accuser" who was Asking For It, like the bubbas and Good Ol' Boys always say. If she's pregnant, the "Christians" will crucify her for aborting it.
ChumpDumper
02-16-2011, 01:51 PM
But was it forcible?
DarkReign
02-16-2011, 02:03 PM
Granted, I was horrified when I heard the story. A white woman has NO BUSINESS in a mob of Middle Eastern men, it's the truth.
Beautiful blue eyed blonde haired woman venturing into the the middle of thousands of pissed off Egyptian peasants, solid plan.
Seriously, what the fuck did these idiot reporters think???? It was not a game. Fuckers were for real out ther.
No revolution is 100% peaceful. wake up. you go out there on your own risk.
Besides, it was her fault. She should have been wearing her Burqa. Everyone knows how uncovered womens faces/bodies just drive those sand savages wild.
Agreed on all points. Im sorry, but I will not apologize for generalizing Middle Eastern culture. Women just do not rank in their society. Especially women who do not conform to their cultural standards. I think its safe to guess that in some ME countries, an uncovered woman is guilty of her own rape for tempting the men around her in her state of "undress".
But, she wants to play in the big leagues of the media world, you have to know the risks. Egypt is not Afghanistan, but it isnt Western either.
LnGrrrR
02-16-2011, 02:55 PM
I think its safe to guess that in some ME countries, an uncovered woman is guilty of her own rape for tempting the men around her in her state of "undress".
Are you saying that should be the case, or that might be the case in those countries?
But, she wants to play in the big leagues of the media world, you have to know the risks. Egypt is not Afghanistan, but it isnt Western either.
I think Egypt is more modernized than a good deal of the ME though.
DarrinS
02-16-2011, 02:55 PM
Agreed on all points. Im sorry, but I will not apologize for generalizing Middle Eastern culture. Women just do not rank in their society. Especially women who do not conform to their cultural standards. I think its safe to guess that in some ME countries, an uncovered woman is guilty of her own rape for tempting the men around her in her state of "undress".
But, she wants to play in the big leagues of the media world, you have to know the risks. Egypt is not Afghanistan, but it isnt Western either.
And, if she was Muslim under Sharia, she'd be punished for being the victim of rape. By the way, no need to apologize for the behavior of primitive, backward-assed societies.
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/02/bangladeshi-teen-dies-from-sharia-lashing-after-reportedly-being-raped/1
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 03:11 PM
Women were legal chattels of a sort until the early 1970's in Texas. I think it's safe to say Texans still joke about women being responsible for rape.
Trainwreck2100
02-16-2011, 03:20 PM
Women were legal chattels of a sort until the early 1970's in Texas. I think it's safe to say Texans still joke about women being responsible for rape.
Did anyone say that reported that got shot in the war a couple years back wasn't culpable at some point?
Viva Las Espuelas
02-16-2011, 03:31 PM
Yeah, if she wasn't wearing a burqa then that's a bit negligent on her part. And I'm just commenting on her not wearing the burqa here. I've seen many news stories and documentaries where the woman reporter is always wearing one.
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 03:32 PM
That was just barely grammatical, Trainwreck. Come again?
Trainwreck2100
02-16-2011, 03:35 PM
That was just barely grammatical, Trainwreck. Come again?
wgoever the fuck that american reporter was that got shot in iraq or afghanistan, couple years ago he gets flown back here. Lives, nobody says "oh poor guy got shot in the head he didn't deserve it etc."
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 03:53 PM
Lives, nobody says "oh poor guy got shot in the head he didn't deserve it etc."Oh what horrible hypocrites we are for not continuing to whine about Michael Ware getting shot undeservedly in the head in a war zone and surviving.
Journalists are targets in a war zone. Women, everywhere.
DarkReign
02-16-2011, 03:55 PM
Are you saying that should be the case, or that might be the case in those countries?
No, I do not think it should be that way. No fucking way.
All I was saying is that it is that way in some Middle Eastern countries.
I think Egypt is more modernized than a good deal of the ME though.
...and I know that, but theyre still not Western by any stretch of the imagination.
They are still very much a traditionally Muslim country that has women as a second class citizen required to be dressed in a certain manner. I fully realize they are not a country that would punish a woman for being raped (like Afghanistan, for example).
But I would assume they are a typical ME country in that a rapist of a woman in a state of "undress" (by their standards) in public (ie not wearing a burqa) would not be punished very harshly (by our standards). To be more clear and to even possibly crumble my whole argument, the offender may serve some short jailtime and probation.
Thats just the way it is in the ME and only a very small example of some the insurmountable cultural differences between us and them.
Egypt is a culturally advanced country...only when compared to other ME countries. Which, IMO, isnt saying much.
DarkReign
02-16-2011, 03:57 PM
Journalists are targets in a war zone. Women, everywhere.
I dont know if you roll around the Club much, but youre addressing a known woman hater.
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:13 PM
(burp)
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:16 PM
ok.
Trainwreck2100
02-16-2011, 04:22 PM
Journalists are targets in a war zone.
oh yes, and she was in a park at peacetime
I dont know if you roll around the Club much, but youre addressing a known woman hater. .
I respect you and all but please don't talk like you're a fucking skirt
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:24 PM
oh yes, and she was in a park at peacetime You're the only one who says so.
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:27 PM
I dont know if you roll around the Club much, but youre addressing a known woman hater.I check the club daily, but seldom delve in depth. I'm slightly familiar with Trainwreck.
Trainwreck2100
02-16-2011, 04:29 PM
You're the only one who says so.
She was a reported in a war zone, shit happens
Trainwreck2100
02-16-2011, 04:31 PM
and she wasn't even raped
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:38 PM
and she wasn't even rapedThat's contrary to the reports posted here so far. What's your source on that?
Trainwreck2100
02-16-2011, 04:41 PM
That's contrary to the reports posted here so far. What's your source on that?
The Jounal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146661656309184.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_news
I guess the guys must have felt her up as they were beating her ass
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:46 PM
I guess the guys must have felt her up as they were beating her assThat's more or less what your link says. Thanks for backing up your bs. :tu
Winehole23
02-16-2011, 04:46 PM
CBS Reporter Targeted in Sexual Assault
PublicOption
02-16-2011, 05:03 PM
So this whole revolution was just an excuse to porn it up in the middle east.
DarkReign
02-16-2011, 05:06 PM
I respect you and all but please don't talk like you're a fucking skirt
:lmao
Executed perfectly.
Stringer_Bell
02-16-2011, 06:40 PM
The Jounal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146661656309184.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_sections_news
I guess the guys must have felt her up as they were beating her ass
The separation and assault lasted for roughly 20 to 30 minutes, said a person familiar with the matter, who added that it was "not a rape." A CBS News spokesman declined to comment beyond the statement.
This is what I meant when I posted that "sexual assault" has a broad definition. It could have been a dude sticking his pee pee out, guys slapping her ass, kissing her...not neccessarily rape (not that it's not still disgusting, but CBS is feeding into people's imaginations with their story of the events - which is why I think they're up to something). Thanks for the link!
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 10:58 AM
Ms. Logan was released from the hospital today -- five days after the "not a rape" attack on her.
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 11:00 AM
From USA Today's entertainment beat:
And in other Logan news this morning, Boston Herald (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1317384&srvc=rss) writer Michael Graham, is questioning why CBS didn't report on its own Logan story sooner - and with more detail. He notes that Logan was sexually assaulted by thugs yelling, "Jew! Jew!" - detail that was reported by The New York Post, not CBS. (Logan isn't Jewish.)http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/02/lara-logan-gets-call-from-obama-as-more-of-her-story-emerges/1
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 11:02 AM
Like when Schlussel called Logan, who has been chief foreign correspondent for CBS News for five years, a "cheerleader" for promoting "this revolution by animals. Now she knows what Islamic revolution is really all about." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/02/17/2011-02-17_violated_then_betrayed_which_is_worse_egyptian_ sex_assault_or_us_pundits_saying_.html#ixzz1EETwlD ob
Viva Las Espuelas
02-17-2011, 11:03 AM
Jew. White devil. American. What's the diff?
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 11:16 AM
By mob rules, none apparently, but Ms. Logan was notably saved in this instance by the Egyptian army with the assistance of other alert members of the crowd.
Viva Las Espuelas
02-17-2011, 11:21 AM
She was rescued by some soldiers along with a women's group.
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 11:26 AM
How cool is that?
boutons_deux
02-17-2011, 11:34 AM
A 20+ minute "brutal sexual assault" by a mob that didn't include rape?
Viva Las Espuelas
02-17-2011, 11:36 AM
Why a "brutal sexual assault"?
Wild Cobra
02-17-2011, 11:56 AM
Ms. Logan was released from the hospital today -- five days after the "not a rape" attack on her.
I haven't followed most this thread, but wasn't she gang raped by several men, of the religion of peace and tolerance?
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 11:58 AM
Not a rape, says the Wall Street Journal in an article with the headline:
US journalist targeted in sexual assault
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 12:08 PM
Reporting it on the day it happened (Feb 11) was obviously out of the question.
According to the NY Daily News, CBS was going to keep the whole thing private until other media outlets found out and forced CBS's hand.
Viva Las Espuelas
02-17-2011, 12:19 PM
I haven't followed most this thread, but wasn't she gang raped by several men, of the religion of peace and tolerance?
I heard 200 :wow
I haven't followed most this thread, but wasn't she gang raped by several men, of the religion of peace and tolerance?
a rhetorical question in the form of implicit specious reasoning, qualified by a confession of limited familiarity with the thread's topic. :lol
Winehole23
02-17-2011, 01:34 PM
Nice summation. Classic WC.
Trainwreck2100
02-17-2011, 01:57 PM
A 20+ minute "brutal sexual assault" by a mob that didn't include rape?
Some guys would prefer to beat on women rather than fuck em
boutons_deux
02-17-2011, 02:01 PM
so they were beating on her "sexual" organs without raping her? :)
Trainwreck2100
02-17-2011, 06:20 PM
so they were beating on her "sexual" organs without raping her? :)
touching a chicks boob without her consent constitutes sexual assault as does whipping your dick out..etc.
Stringer_Bell
02-17-2011, 08:37 PM
I haven't followed most this thread, but wasn't she gang raped by several men, of the religion of peace and tolerance?
Yep, they stuck it in her pooper while chanting "Death to the Tea Party, enjoy the caramel!"
I've had issues with the initial CBS handling of this story. I'll withold any further comments until Logan does an interview where she's asked about the non-rape and answers, "Well, I wasn't exactly raped, but it was a vicious assault. I was touched inappropriately and handled roughly, they said very mean, very dirty things to me too."
baseline bum
02-17-2011, 09:05 PM
religion of peace and tolerance
No such thing in this world.
Jacob1983
02-17-2011, 09:48 PM
CBS should have done a better job on handling this. Personally, I think this story should have been kept private. If someone like this had happened to you, would you want everyone to know about it? This woman should be able to have her privacy.
Winehole23
02-18-2011, 12:00 AM
A humane and genteel sentiment...
Winehole23
02-18-2011, 12:03 AM
...destined to vanish in a shit storm of publicity.
ElNono
02-18-2011, 02:20 AM
CBS should have done a better job on handling this. Personally, I think this story should have been kept private. If someone like this had happened to you, would you want everyone to know about it? This woman should be able to have her privacy.
Well, we don't really know exactly what happened...
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