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LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 01:03 AM
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ALVAREZ6
02-17-2011, 01:06 AM
lol espn


lol really hard pass

lol just throw it anywhere and lebron obviously will beat anyone to the ball


lol espn

lol derivations

Stringer_Bell
02-17-2011, 02:15 AM
That's almost as bad as the constant Blake Griffin alerts before he dunks during EVERY NBA re-cap.

taps
02-17-2011, 02:25 AM
Pistol, Magic, Cousy - did these guys ever play or am I just imagining it?

It's ESPN's world we just live in it.

PublicOption
02-17-2011, 02:44 AM
they are stupid.

WeNeedLength
02-17-2011, 02:59 AM
This one is much better and takes more skill tbh...

-QNqAP05bjU

William Hung
02-17-2011, 03:45 AM
lol google nba.com

http://i.imgur.com/B23nA.png

pookenstein
02-17-2011, 05:31 AM
This one is much better and takes more skill tbh...

-QNqAP05bjU

Wow, can't see that often enough. What a badass pass.

Flo-Rida
02-17-2011, 12:52 PM
Of course some spurs fans are bitchy , they bitch about everything its funny you guys care so much . Of course though once again lebron has his dick in your mouth because thats all you guys talk about and cant seem to get enough.

nkdlunch
02-17-2011, 12:53 PM
:lmao best pass of all time

they are reaching pathetic levels over at BSPN

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 12:57 PM
Manu makes better assists once a week. Also funny how ESN says the Heat walk over Indiana... when they nearly lost it with their Big 3 playing 40 minutes...

Phillip
02-17-2011, 01:01 PM
it was a pretty impressive pass, much more than you spurfans are giving it credit for being. greatest ever? not so sure. but pretty damn good. LMAO at people posting videos of spurplayers making behind the back passes to wide open guys. zzz

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:06 PM
This one is much better and takes more skill tbh...

-QNqAP05bjU

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

i know that some fat beaner spurfans have never played basketball before, but for those of us that have, that's not that great of a pass. looks fancy, yes, but it's just an around the back pass. about a 4/10 for skilled basketball players on the difficulty chart.

A full court alley-oop is just ridiculous. You could try that at the rec with just two people and it would still take many attempts to complete.

:lmao comparing Manu's pass to a full court alley oop

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:09 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

i know that some fat beaner spurfans have never played basketball before, but for those of us that have, that's not that great of a pass. looks fancy, yes, but it's just an around the back pass. about a 4/10 for skilled basketball players on the difficulty chart.

A full court alley-oop is just ridiculous. You could try that at the rec with just two people and it would still take many attempts to complete.

:lmao comparing Manu's pass to a full court alley oop
It's a lot like when Goran Dragic switched the ball behind his back while driving to the basket a lot during the playoffs and Spurfan was saying "That's a move he got from Manu :cry", when it's a driving move that's been around way longer than Manu (for instance it was a move Ed Norton used during basketball scenes of American history X).

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 01:09 PM
This one is much better and takes more skill tbh...

-QNqAP05bjU

I'm surprised RMJ didn't fuck up that break.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:10 PM
It's a lot like when Goran Dragic switched the ball behind his back while driving to the basket a lot during the playoffs and Spurfan was saying "That's a move he got from Manu :cry", when it's a driving move that's been around way longer than Manu (for instance it was a move Ed Norton used during basketball scenes of American history X).

:cry great inspiration for left handed european basketball players everywhere :cry

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:11 PM
I'm surprised RMJ didn't fuck up that break.
Congrats son you are no longer gray

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:13 PM
:cry great inspiration for left handed european basketball players everywhere :cry
:cry Manu went back in time and helped Ed Norton learn how to play basketball for a movie produced before he entered the NBA :cry

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 01:16 PM
It's a lot like when Goran Dragic switched the ball behind his back while driving to the basket a lot during the playoffs and Spurfan was saying "That's a move he got from Manu :cry", when it's a driving move that's been around way longer than Manu (for instance it was a move Ed Norton used during basketball scenes of American history X).

Are you drunk already?!

badfish22
02-17-2011, 01:16 PM
Congrats son you are no longer gray

holy shit. One of the longest runs in ST history is finally over. Forever, wrecker was the trademark GNSF around here. Whose next in line? I say FkLA.

Shank
02-17-2011, 01:19 PM
I thought they took that headline from LeBron's postgame tweet where he said something along the lines of "possibly the best pass of all-time".

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:19 PM
holy shit. One of the longest runs in st history is finally over. Forever, wrecker was the trademark gnsf around here. Whose next in line? I say fkla.

dmc

Greg Oden
02-17-2011, 01:20 PM
holy shit. One of the longest runs in ST history is finally over. Forever, wrecker was the trademark GNSF around here. Whose next in line? I say FkLA.

DMC, tbh.

badfish22
02-17-2011, 01:23 PM
Yeah I was gonna say DMC, but he just burst onto the scene (courtesy of his attention whoreish ways). FkLA has been in the business for a long time.

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:24 PM
Tbh Trill Clinton has taken over for Spuronyourface as the forum's OG gray named Cowboys fan after his take in the NFL forum.

Greg Oden
02-17-2011, 01:25 PM
Tbh Trill Clinton has taken over for Spuronyourface as the forum's OG gray named Cowboys fan after his take in the NFL forum.

what was it?

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:26 PM
what was it?
Last page of the exclusive Cowboys thread. He talks about how the Cowboys can get either Haloti Ngata or Vince Wilfork to fill their need at nose tackle.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:27 PM
Wilfork isn't a longshot though. He is getting up there in age and the Patriots have a history of getting rid of their stars who are getting long in the tooth. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to trade him for picks.

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 01:28 PM
I thought they took that headline from LeBron's postgame tweet where he said something along the lines of "possibly the best pass of all-time".

:lol That's cause Lebron is an idiot.

Maybe if that pass, say, won a game for them, or were in the middle of the playoffs, etc etc.

Is it an awesome pass? Definitely. Probably 9/10 on the difficulty scale. But that's like saying the best shot of all time is a full court buzzer beater. Might as well start looking at And1 videos.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 01:28 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

i know that some fat beaner spurfans have never played basketball before, but for those of us that have, that's not that great of a pass. looks fancy, yes, but it's just an around the back pass. about a 4/10 for skilled basketball players on the difficulty chart.

A full court alley-oop is just ridiculous. You could try that at the rec with just two people and it would still take many attempts to complete.

:lmao comparing Manu's pass to a full court alley oop

HAHAH! BULLSHIT! I play bball too, and full court passes are easy. We do them twice a game, so stfu, you have no idea.

And, btw. is easier to pass the ball, than receive it.
So if anyone deserves credit, is the scorer, not the passer.

A no look, around the waist, one handed, at full speed pass; and you call it easy. You just outted yourself, troll. :hat

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:29 PM
Rofl yeah, just pick up 1 of the two best 3-4 nose tackles in the NFL, I'm sure it won't be that hard.

Why would it be hard if he's a free agent?

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:30 PM
HAHAH! BULLSHIT! I play bball too, and full court passes are easy. We do them twice a game, so stfu, you have no idea.

And, btw. is easier to pass the ball, than receive it.
So if anyone deserves credit, is the scorer, not the passer.

A no look, around the waist, one handed, at full speed pass; and you call it easy. You just outted yourself, troll. :hat
Sorry, but someone with an anime avatar is gonna have a hard time convincing anyone he plays basketball.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:30 PM
We do them twice a game


Who's we? Are you talking about your San Antonio men's 270+ pounds and up summer league team?

Getting up and down the court twice a game isn't the same thing, tbh

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 01:31 PM
Last page of the exclusive Cowboys thread. He talks about how the Cowboys can get either Haloti Ngata or Vince Wilfork to fill their need at nose tackle.

:lmao

As if either team would give up either of those players. Vince Wilfork is the most important member of our defense at this moment (though Mayo comes close), and Ngata is a monster for the Ravens.

If Cowboys wanted to trade for someone, they should look at Kyle Williams from Buffalo. He'd require a high asking price though.

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:32 PM
Who's we? Are you talking about your San Antonio men's 270+ pounds and up summer league team?

Getting up and down the court twice a game isn't the same thing, tbh
He's talking about his anime intramural league.

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:34 PM
:lmao

As if either team would give up either of those players. Vince Wilfork is the most important member of our defense at this moment (though Mayo comes close), and Ngata is a monster for the Ravens.

If Cowboys wanted to trade for someone, they should look at Kyle Williams from Buffalo. He'd require a high asking price though.
Not only our defense, Wilfork is the most important player on the Patriots not named Tom Brady (and it's not even close in my book, Mayo's tackle numbers take a nose dive without Wilfork absorbing multiple blockers on every play.

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 01:36 PM
He's talking about his anime intramural league.

As hilarious as that is . . . he is absolutely right tbh.

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:38 PM
As hilarious as that is . . . he is absolutely right tbh.
He's right that a full court pass to an open player isn't very hard, but that full court pass where he needs to time it perfectly with the player as the window to get the ally oop pass there is very small is pretty hard.

I do agree with him that catching those passes is just as if not more hard than making it.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 01:41 PM
Who's we? Are you talking about your San Antonio men's 270+ pounds and up summer league team?

Getting up and down the court twice a game isn't the same thing, tbh

k, true, twice a game is an exageration. I've tried them many times, and got only a few allright. But I'm sorry, such plays are not as rare as you may think. You obviously have no idea of the game, nor truly played for it seriously if you've never seen it before, nor seen something similar.


Sorry, but someone with an anime avatar is gonna have a hard time convincing anyone he plays basketball.

As random as saying your opinion is shit because you are a Nuggets fan?

Greg Oden
02-17-2011, 01:41 PM
Should've known that a thread where cowboy fans run rampant with homerism would provide the goods.

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:42 PM
As random as saying your opinion is shit because you are a Nuggets fan?
Nuggets > anime

Muser
02-17-2011, 01:44 PM
"Such plays are not as rare as you think"

I don't remember the last time someone in an NBA game did it before this tbh. Pretty rare.

Greg Oden
02-17-2011, 01:44 PM
lol anime

Remember that one anime where a weak kid with spikey hair gets mystical dragon powers and now can do some cool fighting moves?

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 01:46 PM
He's right that a full court pass to an open player isn't very hard, but that full court pass where he needs to time it perfectly with the player as the window to get the ally oop pass there is very small is pretty hard.

I do agree with him that catching those passes is just as if not more hard than making it.

iirc Dwyane Wade played quarterback in high school. Someone with that background would probably not have a lot of difficulty making that pass.

It was a good pass . . . don't get me wrong.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:46 PM
But I'm sorry, such plays are not as rare as you may think.

:lmao ok

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:49 PM
lol anime

Remember that one anime where a weak kid with spikey hair gets mystical dragon powers and now can do some cool fighting moves?
:lmao

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 01:51 PM
Nuggets > anime

Last anime I watched was one in space, with robots that were also F-14's, and there were some alien giants. I also remember there was a chinese girl singing every few so chapters. If anyone remember the anme of this, pls PM me, I want a trip back in memory lane.

And dude. He-Man > Nuggets. :lol

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 01:51 PM
iirc Dwyane Wade played quarterback in high school. Someone with that background would probably not have a lot of difficulty making that pass.

It was a good pass . . . don't get me wrong.
The fact he played QB doesn't take away from the fact it was a pass 95+% of all NBA players would struggle to make.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 01:52 PM
I've watched a ton of NBA games, played and watched years of AAU ball, years of high school basketball, and millions of pickup games at the rec and the Wade/Lebron play is the first full-court alley oop play I've ever seen in a game yet anime boy is trying to convince me his teams run it twice a game:lmao:lmao:lmao

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 01:56 PM
The fact he played QB doesn't take away from the fact it was a pass 95+% of all NBA players would struggle to make.

I said it was a good pass. I'm just saying it's not "the greatest pass of all-time". If you got the arm and a wide open receiver, it's not that difficult a pass.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 02:03 PM
I said it was a good pass. I'm just saying it's not "the greatest pass of all-time". If you got the arm and a wide open receiver, it's not that difficult a pass.

Well obviously you need athletes like that to make it such a good play.

By that logic, you could say Blake Griffin's dunks aren't that impressive because he has the athleticisim

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 02:05 PM
Not only our defense, Wilfork is the most important player on the Patriots not named Tom Brady (and it's not even close in my book, Mayo's tackle numbers take a nose dive without Wilfork absorbing multiple blockers on every play.

I agree that Wilfork is number 2 as the leader of our defense. The only reason I put Mayo close in terms of "importance" is because once Wilfork is gone I think he'll be the next "leader". You never know, of course, but that's how it looks right now.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 02:05 PM
:lmao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CQXTCSwIw0

Duncan to Finley. Pass was more accurate than Wade's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0QFeQ4q-rQ

Manu to Tony. Pass requires more bball skill, as it's no hail mary lob.
(though it's shorter range, ofc, so I guess it evens outs, or whatever).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sKWskkEr4

Iverson to RIP. Not full court but a much better assist.

I also remember two more, one from Manu to Tim and Tim to Manu full court passes on the 2005 and/or 2007 champ DVD's (yes, i don't remember which one)

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 02:07 PM
Hopefully you're right, they need more leadership to step up on defense, someone at linebacker and someone in the secondary. Mayo is the obvious guy who's bound to step up at linebacker. A year ago I woulda said Meriweather projects to be the eventual leader in the secondary but now I have no idea.

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 02:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CQXTCSwIw0

Duncan to Finley. Pass was more accurate than Wade's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0QFeQ4q-rQ

Manu to Tony. Pass requires more bball skill, as it's no hail mary lob.
(though it's shorter range, ofc, so I guess it evens outs, or whatever).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sKWskkEr4

Iverson to RIP. Not full court but a much better assist.

I also remember two more, one from Manu to Tim and Tim to Manu full court passes on the 2005 and/or 2007 champ DVD's (yes, i don't remember which one)
:lmao none of those compare to the Wade Lebron pass.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 02:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CQXTCSwIw0

Duncan to Finley. Pass was more accurate than Wade's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0QFeQ4q-rQ

Manu to Tony. Pass requires more bball skill, as it's no hail mary lob.
(though it's shorter range, ofc, so I guess it evens outs, or whatever).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1sKWskkEr4

Iverson to RIP. Not full court but a much better assist.

I also remember two more, one from Manu to Tim and Tim to Manu full court passes on the 2005 and/or 2007 champ DVD's (yes, i don't remember which one)

Those aren't alley oops you fucking dumbass:rollin

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 02:12 PM
lol anime

Remember that one anime where a weak kid with spikey hair gets mystical dragon powers and now can do some cool fighting moves?

That one is good, but not as good as the one where the ninja kid fights that evil demon and ends up killing him with that possessed sword.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 02:12 PM
I've watched a ton of NBA games, played and watched years of AAU ball, years of high school basketball, and millions of pickup games at the rec and the Wade/Lebron play is the first full-court alley oop play I've ever seen in a game yet anime boy is trying to convince me his teams run it twice a game:lmao:lmao:lmao

And you word is better than mine, because...

I honestly believe you are full of bull, becasue those passes are not that rare. Or you just recently started watching basketball, or you truly believe this was the first full court assist in the game.

Oh, I said I tried them, not that I always got them right. And though I'm in a really good shape for my age and size, I've never made the basket, just the assist. But that's what you liked so much, right?

As obviously it's not (YouTube/Google "Full Court"), you are clearly mistaken. Mind you, feel free to believe ESPN shiny.

Axe Murderer
02-17-2011, 02:14 PM
And you word is better than mine, because...

I honestly believe you are full of bull, becasue those passes are not that rare. Or you just recently started watching basketball, or you truly believe this was the first full court assist in the game.

Oh, I said I tried them, not that I always got them right. And though I'm in a really good shape for my age and size, I've never made the basket, just the assist. But that's what you liked so much, right?

As obviously it's not (YouTube/Google "Full Court"), you are clearly mistaken. Mind you, feel free to believe ESPN shiny.

serious question. do you even know what an alley oop is?

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 02:15 PM
Those aren't alley oops you fucking dumbass:rollin

I was only trying to show the value of the assist, newbie.
I'm not taking what Lebron did as granted, nimrod. I'm merely stating the value of Wade's assist. And for the record, I like Wade much more than Lebron.

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 02:15 PM
Hopefully you're right, they need more leadership to step up on defense, someone at linebacker and someone in the secondary. Mayo is the obvious guy who's bound to step up at linebacker. A year ago I woulda said Meriweather projects to be the eventual leader in the secondary but now I have no idea.

Meriweather is just too dumb, I think. I love the guy, but he makes one bonehead play every other game.

Mayo was in for I think over 95% of the defensive snaps this season. I'm hoping he'll be another Bruschi. (Heck, if he's even 80% of what we got out of Bruschi I'll be happy.)

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 02:17 PM
Well obviously you need athletes like that to make it such a good play.

By that logic, you could say Blake Griffin's dunks aren't that impressive because he has the athleticisim

True enough. Speaking of Griffin, I thought that 3/4 court oop pass from Foye was every bit as cool as this one. The pass wasn't as long, but it was in traffic and the dunk was better.

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 02:22 PM
Those aren't alley oops you fucking dumbass:rollin

That first one would have been if LeBron was on the receiving end . . . or if was 1996. Fuckin' Finley . . .

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 02:27 PM
Mind you, the play is awesome. Lebron surely makes a great finish..
I question the value of the assist, nothing more.

BTW, I know I have one of Manu to Duncan, who finishes it with a oop.
But I can't find it in YouTube. I'm 99% sure is in the 2005 DVD, though (I remember TD does a finger gesture to the camera, pretty funny).

JamStone
02-17-2011, 02:31 PM
I'm surprised there are people downplaying how great of a pass it was. And of course LeBron deserves credit for making it an alley-oop. But the pass had to be within a couple feet of the rim from almost the full length of the court for LeBron to make it an alley-oop. If Wade makes the same pass, LeBron catches it, comes down with the ball, then goes up for a lay-up, it's not nearly as impressive. It's the fact Wade gave LeBron the opportunity to make it an alley-oop and the fact that LeBron actually completed it as an alley-oop that made the play so special.

Oh and lmaooooooooooooooooooooo at "we do them twice a game."

In the other thread, I said I have never seen anything like that ever watching basketball at any level. I've been watching basketball for over 25 years.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 02:39 PM
I did clarify one thing is try doing them, another complete them.
But we completed some sets.

It's anice point you make about Wade's importance in the play. But I think it's more with Lebron's timing his jump to make the alley-oop, than Wade's ball accuracy.

For example, let's say that I give you the ball, and tell you to try to do what Wade did (that is, throw the ball hard at the other end), how many times will you be able to put the ball where is needed to be in order for me to do an alley-oop? Sure, may take you a few times to feel the ball, and know the exact strengh you need to do so. But once you have it, your accuracy gets much better, and a "sizeable" percentage of your passes should be on mark.

From my part, I'm downplaying ESPN's set value on the play.
If you mean the play is truly the best, as BSPN says, then yeah, I'm doing it.

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 02:47 PM
I'm surprised there are people downplaying how great of a pass it was.

For the record, I'm only downplaying the pass if the critera is "Best pass of all-time", not if the criteria is "spectacular pass that may be the best of the season".

JamStone
02-17-2011, 02:48 PM
Try it 10 times, any of us on these messageboards would be lucky to do it once in those 10 tries to get it right where it needs to be at the right moment gauging LeBron's speed. It's not just putting it where it needs to be, but putting it where it needs to be and when it needs to be there. Consider Lebron is going pretty fast. Yes, his athleticism makes for a bigger margin of error, but the pass was still pretty much exactly where it had to be, bottom right corner of the backboard. And you're talking about basically a 90 foot pass.

You give me the ball and I take one step from the baseline at the other end of the court with someone streaking down the court at full speed or close to full speed, and I need to get it right exactly where it needs to be (right around the bottom right corner of the backboard) right when he jumps to get it? I don't think I can do it even once in 10 tries. And honestly, neither can you. That's me not knowing what type of athlete you are or anything like that. And that's me being a fairly decent athlete with good hand-eye coordination and enough arm strength to make the pass. I won't make that pass even once in 10 tries. Now give me 100 attempts, I probably will get it there a couple of times. But that's 100 attempts.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 02:59 PM
I differ.

The pass doesn't require much from Wade, requires much more from Lebron. Wade is only required to put the ball in the proximity of the hoop. I'm fairly confident, that if I'm given some time to try the ball, and do a few test runs to measure the strengh, I can lob the ball to the other hoop a decent amount of times (for the record, I'm in good shape, and even then I'd get tired fast).

It's Lebron that has to time his jump when the ball is close enough, to make the play spectacular. But, again, mind you, feel free to disgress.

JamStone
02-17-2011, 03:05 PM
You're only thinking about the arm strength and accuracy to make the pass. You're ignoring the timing required. LeBron is not a stationary object. Wade wasn't just throwing it at the backboard.

If you give me the basketball at one end of the court and give me 10 attempts to hit the backboard at the other end, I might be able to hit the backboard 6, 7, maybe even 8 times. Wade was making the pass to a moving LeBron. Ignoring the timing aspect of the pass is why you're not as impressed.

Wade could have made the same exact pass and be a half a second late with it and LeBron can't make the oop. Just a fraction of a second late, and LeBron would have to try to catch the basketball and bring it down and gather himself.

I think you're being pretty naive about the pass.

The Reckoning
02-17-2011, 03:09 PM
"Such plays are not as rare as you think"

I don't remember the last time someone in an NBA game did it before this tbh. Pretty rare.


because any normal coach would flip shit if that happened. i doubt they even have a heat playbook.

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 03:09 PM
So Jam, would you place it as best of all time? :stirpot:

Hooks
02-17-2011, 03:10 PM
LOL @ all the people thinking that Wade knew he was going to throw an alley oop, shit I could've made that pass with LBJ, all you have to do is throw it within the vicinity of the rim and he'll do the rest.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 03:13 PM
I believe Wade was only "instructed" (if it was trained play) to throw the ball near the hoop. Of course, he has to time when will Lebron reach the hoop, but the difficulty of such timing, if you know the speed you teammate is capable to do, is not as hard as you think. I believe it's here where we disagree. Fair enough.

I believe it is difficult, but compared to Lebron's timing on the jump, miniscule.

Again, I hate Lebron, and I'm getting tired of praising him.

Phillip
02-17-2011, 03:15 PM
Again, I hate Lebron, and I'm getting tired of praising him.

your goal isnt to praise lebron here.

its to downplay the pass and try to convince everyone to suck the spurs dicks, since according to you, they throw full court alley-oops at least twice a game








LMAO

JamStone
02-17-2011, 03:16 PM
So Jam, would you place it as best of all time? :stirpot:

I don't know. It's just something I've never seen before. From a wow factor point of view, I don't know if I can think of many more impressive. But "best" is such a subjective thing when it comes to things like this. How important of a pass and the time and score of the game and how important the game is might be factors to some. Just taking it as an individual play regardless of impact on the game or how important a play it is to the game, I would say for me it's probably in the discussion. I'd probably change the description to "most impressive" instead of "best."



LOL @ all the people thinking that Wade knew he was going to throw an alley oop, shit I could've made that pass with LBJ, all you have to do is throw it within the vicinity of the rim and he'll do the rest.

Now this is a legitimate critique. It's not at all certain Wade was making the pass specifically for an oop, but the fact that the pass was pretty much perfect for an oop is nearly as impressive even if it wasn't his intention. Like I said earlier, if LeBron caught the ball, came down to the court and maybe even took a dribble, then went up with it, it wouldn't have been nearly as impressive. We've already seen full court length passes where players caught the ball but came down with it and/or took a dribble then finished. They aren't as impressive. Players can run under a pass when it's not right where it needs to be. They can catch and gather long passes. But this pass, whether intended as an oop or not, was placed perfectly for it at the very moment where it needed to be. That's impressive in itself. It's not like LeBron had to make an amazing catch just to get to the ball or had to do something spectacular to catch or finish. The catch was easy and right on time. That's why I give more credit to the pass then LeBron receiving and finishing.

Spur_Fanatic
02-17-2011, 03:22 PM
your goal isnt to praise lebron here.

its to downplay the pass and try to convince everyone to suck the spurs dicks, since according to you, they throw full court alley-oops at least twice a game








LMAO

I mentioned the Spurs before, because I watch them more than any other team ofc.
I don't like, yes, that because Wade/Lebron are involved, little lemmings like you jump at the ocassion to suck some ESPN dick.

Plus, I don't give a damn what some trolls in the NBA forum think. And I don't want a Mavs fan praise on the Spurs. You guys are cursed.
I'm giving my opinion on the matter to Jam, and listening to his, because he brings some good points, and I'm enjoying the discussion. A troll's opinion, I really don't care.

hater
02-17-2011, 03:43 PM
just took me 3 seconds to find 2 passes better than this one:

note Iverson's pass is between Grant Hill's legs :wow

haPzE0cKoqo

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HarlemHeat37
02-17-2011, 03:46 PM
:lol Like Bump, I've played in many leagues, I play with Div 1 players on a consistent basis, I've played with dozens of NBA players, and I've never seen anything like this..

There's a huge difference between a homerun pass for a layup, and a pass of the same nature, except for an alley-oop..Wade had to make sure that the ball didn't make it's way down, which is what usually happens when you're throwing a basketball from that type of distance, and he had to hit a moving object..

Whether he intended for it to be an alley-oop or not is debatable, but irrelevant..it still happened..it wasn't even a case where he just threw it anywhere in Lebron's vicinity, he the ball actually ended up in a perfect position, for Lebron to make the layup..incredible..


As for whether it's the best pass of all-time, it's debatable..most people wouldn't be able to pull that off in an empty gym, let alone in real time, during an actual NBA game, with NBA-size players, all over the court..the pass is even more impressive, when you consider the amount of time and reaction time that it took for Wade to throw it..he didn't have any time to think about it, he didn't have any time to prepare for the throw, he just threw it up there..

It's debatable, there are so many great passes in NBA history..

This is my favorite pass:

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hater
02-17-2011, 03:49 PM
:lol Like Bump, I've played in many leagues, I play with Div 1 players on a consistent basis, I've played with dozens of NBA players, and I've never seen anything like this..

There's a huge difference between a homerun pass for a layup, and a pass of the same nature, except for an alley-oop..Wade had to make sure that the ball didn't make it's way down, which is what usually happens when you're throwing a basketball from that type of distance, and he had to hit a moving object..

wrong. a professional player could replicate that pass if tried a number of times. Pretty simple pass from A to B for a professional and you would need an athletic player to catch it, which in the NBA there are tons.

But for example the Iverson pass, even if you try 1 million times, they would not be able to replicate it.

The possible best pass in history:

haPzE0cKoqo

cheguevara
02-17-2011, 03:53 PM
This is my favorite pass:

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that's not even a pass genius. How many assists did Kidd get for that one? :lol

HarlemHeat37
02-17-2011, 03:53 PM
Grant Hill tried to kick the ball, in an attempt to stop the easy layup, but he mistimed it..Iverson threw it before Hill even got there, unless you believe Allen Iverson is some kind of psychic, that knew Hill would try to kick the ball, and he pin-pointed it to where Hill's 5-hole was going to be:lol..

Impressive pass, but there have been many cases of players making bounce passes in traffic..shit, JJ Barea had an impressive bounce pass in traffic, just the other night, IIRC..

HarlemHeat37
02-17-2011, 03:54 PM
that's not even a pass genius. How many assists did Kidd get for that one? :lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao

It's not a pass, if the player on the other end doesn't finish it?..

Do you understand what a pass is?:lol:lol..

cheguevara
02-17-2011, 03:55 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

It's not a pass, if the player on the other end doesn't finish it?..

Do you understand what a pass is?:lol:lol..

answer my question if you want your question answered

ohmwrecker
02-17-2011, 03:56 PM
Grant Hill tried to kick the ball, in an attempt to stop the easy layup, but he mistimed it..Iverson threw it before Hill even got there, unless you believe Allen Iverson is some kind of psychic, that knew Hill would try to kick the ball, and he pin-pointed it to where Hill's 5-hole was going to be:lol..

I'm not sure why, but it looked more like Hill was trying to avoid kicking the ball to me.

HarlemHeat37
02-17-2011, 03:58 PM
I'm not sure why, but it looked more like Hill was trying to avoid kicking the ball to me.

Either way, Hill wasn't stationary before the pass came..he clearly did some kind of kicking/jumping action near the ball..so, unless Iverson has some kind of magic ability to predict this would happen AND make the ball move away from Hill at the same time, it's coincidence IMO..still a great pass, though..

hater
02-17-2011, 04:02 PM
Grant Hill tried to kick the ball, in an attempt to stop the easy layup, but he mistimed it..Iverson threw it before Hill even got there, unless you believe Allen Iverson is some kind of psychic, that knew Hill would try to kick the ball, and he pin-pointed it to where Hill's 5-hole was going to be:lol..

:lmao

take your homer glasses off and watch again. Hill tries to avoid kicking the ball. Talk about blind homer :wow




Impressive pass, but there have been many cases of players making bounce passes in traffic..shit, JJ Barea had an impressive bounce pass in traffic, just the other night, IIRC..

again, this is a full court bounce pass. Please show me those "similar" barea passes :rolleyes

whether it's 100% intended or not is a moot point. We are talking about the finished products here.
AI's better pass than Wade's by a mile.

JamStone
02-17-2011, 04:10 PM
I don't think that Iverson pass was all that special. Honestly.

JamStone
02-17-2011, 04:12 PM
that's not even a pass genius. How many assists did Kidd get for that one? :lol

Not an assist, but it was a pass.

in2deep
02-17-2011, 04:13 PM
I don't think that Iverson pass was all that special. Honestly.

same thing I think about the Wade pass. I mean they are professional players. Of course they can throw the ball the length of the court. And of course they can catch it and dunk. simple.

of course us mere mortals would never be able to do that. :)

monosylab1k
02-17-2011, 04:15 PM
Not an assist, but it was a pass.

:lmao I might believe the "BNSF have smarter takes than GNSF" theory but then that goes down the toilet after you factor in hater and cheguevara.

cheguevara
02-17-2011, 04:16 PM
Not an assist, but it was a pass.

I meant a pass for a bucket. Of course if you include ALL passes ever in the league, makes ESPN's claim even more ridiculous :lol

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 04:17 PM
I meant a pass for a bucket.

lol moving the goal posts

HarlemHeat37
02-17-2011, 04:19 PM
lol moving the goal posts

This isn't even a post, genius..

Kyle Orton
02-17-2011, 04:21 PM
Um I was on your side of this argument....

LnGrrrR
02-17-2011, 04:39 PM
I don't know. It's just something I've never seen before. From a wow factor point of view, I don't know if I can think of many more impressive. But "best" is such a subjective thing when it comes to things like this. How important of a pass and the time and score of the game and how important the game is might be factors to some. Just taking it as an individual play regardless of impact on the game or how important a play it is to the game, I would say for me it's probably in the discussion. I'd probably change the description to "most impressive" instead of "best."


That sounds fair to me. I don't think I'd call it the most impressive if I had a chance to think about it, but it's probably top 3 or so.

HarlemHeat37
02-17-2011, 04:44 PM
Um I was on your side of this argument....

:lol check cheguevera's first post..

DMC
02-17-2011, 05:15 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

i know that some fat beaner spurfans have never played basketball before, but for those of us that have, that's not that great of a pass. looks fancy, yes, but it's just an around the back pass. about a 4/10 for skilled basketball players on the difficulty chart.

A full court alley-oop is just ridiculous. You could try that at the rec with just two people and it would still take many attempts to complete.

:lmao comparing Manu's pass to a full court alley oop
So you are a fat beaner Spurs fan?