The 2011 Trade Deadline Thread.

[Blackjack]

I don't understand the thunder blowing it up like that. The nazr trade makes sense and is a good one. The Perkins deal makes no sense.

I disagree. Green's a really nice player but what he brought to the table wasn't essential for the team's growth and success.

The Thunder can really bring just that now defensively - and they ain't hurtin' for offense . . .

[Spurs Brazil]

@MikeWellsNBA: No deal between Pacers and Grizzlies. Deal was in place, but Grizzlies pulled out at the last minute, according to a s ...

[Spurfect21]

Or alot worse...

Yeah this too...

[yavozerb]

One player I thought could've been a real possibility for us was G. Wallace...damn. Would've made us clear favorites...

hmmm, do you even know how much his contract was? if you did you would have known he was never a real possiblity

[Spurfect21]

hmmm, do you even know how much his contract was? if you did you would have known he was never a real possiblity

Tell that to the Blazers who got him for beans...guess they had more $ than us or something...

[jjktkk]

Theres a better chance of the Spurs picking up a player thats bought out from another team.

[yavozerb]

Tell that to the Blazers who got him for beans...guess they had more $ than us or something...

They had a 7+ mil. expiring contract and the spurs did not..end of story

[Bruno]

Spurs doing no trade isn't a surprise but what is more surprising is that there hasn't been a single trade rumor about Spurs. I don't remember the last time it happened.

[yavozerb]

Theres a better chance of the Spurs picking up a player thats bought out from another team.

Thats the only chance of a spurs addition...

[Blackjack]

Wow, that really is a pretty eye-opening trade between two highly competitive teams. Much more surprising for the Celtics, but still . . .

[yavozerb]

Wow, that really is a pretty eye-opening trade between two highly competitive teams. Much more surprising for the Celtics, but still . . .

agreed...The celts obviously have a player who they will sign after the deadline (murphy,sheed,etc.) but the loss of perkins is really gonna hurt that defense ALOT...

[Mugen]

two possible Spurs opponents in the playoffs (OKC and Portland) just got a lot tougher....

still think we'd beat both in a playoff series but that 2nd round matchup with OKC/Blazers looks just about as tough as a Mavs/Lakers second round.

[CGD]

I guess now the focus turns to who is getting bought out, and, perhaps relatedly, how the Spurs will handle that final 13th roster spot...

[SenorSpur]

Word is Pryzbilla may be bought out by the Hornets and could be contemplating retirement.

[coyotes_geek]

Word is Pryzbilla may be bought out by the Hornets and could be contemplating retirement.

If it's true that he's going to get bought out, I hope the Spurs try like hell to talk him out of retirement. He'd be #1 on my buyout wish list.

[Muser]

The Perkins deal makes no sense.

For the Celtics it doesn't, the Thunder got a steal.

[MarHill]

two possible Spurs opponents in the playoffs (OKC and Portland) just got a lot tougher....

still think we'd beat both in a playoff series but that 2nd round matchup with OKC/Blazers looks just about as tough as a Mavs/Lakers second round.


I do agree the potential 2nd round matchup w/OKC has become a little tougher. But what do we expect? A cakewalk through the playoffs.

Even the years the Spurs won the title they had some tough matchups in the playoffs. That's par for the course.

Seattle in 05
Phoenix in 05 & 07

I do wonder about Perkins' health though. I just don't think Boston would give him up that easily when they have a legit shot to win it all this year.

[Blackjack]

Gerald Wallace to the Blazers ... maybe it's just me, but it seems counterintuitive to bring a player with the nickname 'Crash' into that organization.

First Camby and now Crash. ... Maybe it's some reverse psychology trying to juke the jinx?

[timtonymanu]

Word is Pryzbilla may be bought out by the Hornets and could be contemplating retirement.

Hornets? Isn't he in Charlotte now?

But if true, Spurs should try to get in on that. Prz did pretty damn good against Bynum last night.

[MarHill]

If it's true that he's going to get bought out, I hope the Spurs try like hell to talk him out of retirement. He'd be #1 on my buyout wish list.


Would he play in front of Splitter? That's the dilemma for any big coming to the Spurs?

Where are the minutes going to come from...if he does consider coming here?

[moisaenz]

Would he play in front of Splitter? That's the dilemma for any big coming to the Spurs?

Where are the minutes going to come from...if he does consider coming here?

They might come from Bonner's minutes when he starts choking in the playoffs or in teams with size like OKC and LA.

[Bruno]

I'm not sure Thunder are better with these trade. They are surely better on the defensive end but I'm not sold on their offense. Spacing could very quick be problematic.

Blazers are more talented but they also have a huge hole. Behind Aldridge and Camby, their bench at PF/c is Sean Marks. :rollin

All in all, Mavs and Lakers haven't improved their team so it's a good trade deadline for Spurs.

[coyotes_geek]

Would he play in front of Splitter? That's the dilemma for any big coming to the Spurs?

What's the dilemma? If he's better than Splitter he should play in front of Splitter. If he's not, that's okay too. The Spurs still add depth & size.


Where are the minutes going to come from...if he does consider coming here?

If he's contemplating retirement I would think minutes aren't all that big a concern of his.

[MarHill]

They might come from Bonner's minutes when he starts choking in the playoffs or in teams with size like OKC and LA.

But what if Bonner plays well this year?

Plus, with the emergence of Neal I believe will help Bonner big time. Because you will another option spacing the floor.

I know easy to say replace Bonner....but he has earned his minutes and if he keeps shooting well ( I know he has not played well in the playoffs) no other big coming into the Spurs system with 25 games left will get a lot of minutes.

[SenorSpur]

Hornets? Isn't he in Charlotte now?

But if true, Spurs should try to get in on that. Prz did pretty damn good against Bynum last night.

My bad. I keep thinking Charlotte Hornets. I haven't got my mind around the name Bobtails - just yet.

[MarHill]

What's the dilemma? If he's better than Splitter he should play in front of Splitter. If he's not, that's okay too. The Spurs still add depth & size.





If he's contemplating retirement I would think minutes aren't all that big a concern of his.

Who said he's better than Splitter? Plus he will only 20-25 games to get it together in the Spurs system. We have plenty of experience to show that's not easy. Ask RJ. Ask Finley. Ask Oberto. And so on.

Also, being talked out of retirement...he will want assurances of getting playing time. He will not want to be sitting on the bench and only to be playing sparingly.

[ace3g]

I'm sticking with my pick, if Rasual Butler is bought out, hopefully the Spurs can get him

[Mugen]

I'm not sure Thunder are better with these trade. They are surely better on the defensive end but I'm not sold on their offense. Spacing could very quick be problematic.

Blazers are more talented but they also have a huge hole. Behind Aldridge and Camby, their bench at PF/c is Sean Marks. :rollin

All in all, Mavs and Lakers haven't improved their team so it's a good trade deadline for Spurs.

Any type of offense the Thunder lose with green is more than made up for with Perk's D (IF healthy).

Green is an extremely streaky shooter who dissapears a lot in the 4th.

I dont think they lose anything in the fast break game either because Westbrook is pretty much a one man fast break.

I think the Thunder are much much better after this trade and definitely match up better with the Spurs. Great move by Presti.

[MarHill]

I'm sticking with my pick, if Rasual Butler is bought out, hopefully the Spurs can get him

That might be realistic....and he can be a backup 3.

[CGD]

If he gets a buyout, he may just want to wait 30 day and return to Portland where he'll get the minutes. And if that's the case what a sham of a "trade."

[benefactor]

I'm sticking with my pick, if Rasual Butler is bought out, hopefully the Spurs can get him
:tu

[MarHill]

Any type of offense the Thunder lose with green is more than made up for with Perk's D (IF healthy).

Green is an extremely streaky shooter who dissapears a lot in the 4th.

I dont think they lose anything in the fast break game either because Westbrook is pretty much a one man fast break.

I think the Thunder are much much better after this trade and definitely match up better with the Spurs. Great move by Presti.

I would agree it's a better move for the Thunder. However, it's not one that will get them past the Spurs or the Lakers.

For the Spurs...you have to beat them with balanced scoring from your frontcourt and backcourt. David West, Dirk and Gasol are the options that have given the Spurs problems because they can hit jumpshots from 10-17 ft out.

Perkins can't do that. Nazr has a limited offensive game. However, it does give them much needed size though.

[MannyIsGod]

Pop hates to fuck with shit in the worst of years so I would be shocked if they added anyone at this point.

[MarHill]

Pop hates to fuck with shit in the worst of years so I would be shocked if they added anyone at this point.


Why should he? When his team has the better record in the league. I could if this was last year and how the team struggled in the 1st half of the season.

I'm sure they were looking to add a piece. But in a trade....you have to give up something and the Spurs are not going to do that.

[tdunk21]

someone who is a good defender and rebounder.....should we consider him....

http://twitter.com/#!/PDcavsinsider


These trades leave #Cavs with 16 players on roster. Must get roster to 15. Have talked with Leon Powe about buyout.

[MarHill]

someone who is a good defender and rebounder.....should we consider him....

http://twitter.com/#!/PDcavsinsider

What is Powe's size? About 6'8 or 6'9? Don't know.

If so....that won't be enough even though he would play hard.

[Spurfect21]

They had a 7+ mil. expiring contract and the spurs did not..end of story

Cool...didn't know. just thought he'd fit in well

[jjktkk]

I'm sticking with my pick, if Rasual Butler is bought out, hopefully the Spurs can get him

This. Great pickup if it happens.

[Bruno]

It's interesting to notice that all the teams fighting for the 5-8 playoffs spots in the west have made relatively big trades.

To sum up:
Hornets (34-25): Thorton for Carl Landry.
Nuggets (33-25): Melo and Billups for Gallo, Chandler, Felton and Mozgov.
Blazers (32-25): Przybilla and Cunningham for Crash.
Memphis (32-27): Thabeet for Battier.
Utah (31-27): Williams for Favors and Harris.
Suns (28-27): Dragic for Brooks.

I like what Hornets have done. They are my pick for the 5th spot.
On the other hand, Utah will be a lottery team.

Rockets (28-31) has also given up on the season by trading Brooks and Battier.

[Darkwaters]

Rasual Butler is one of the best possible buyout options out there. I was a huge advocate of signing him outright this offseason. Big, long, 3 pt shooter that can play defense. Primarily a SF but has played some 2 at times.

[Mel_13]

I'm sticking with my pick, if Rasual Butler is bought out, hopefully the Spurs can get him

Rasual Butler would be a nice fit. Jamario Moon and Anthony Parker are also possible buyout candidates that would work for the Spurs.

[SenorSpur]

Rasual Butler would be a nice fit. Jamario Moon and Anthony Parker are also possible buyout candidates that would work for the Spurs.

Since Pop is allergic to the prospect of adding more size, I'd have to cosign on Butler

[Darkwaters]

Rockets (28-31) has also given up on the season by trading Brooks and Battier.

I like the trade for Dragic though. Ditching Brooks was the right move and they got a solid replacement with a pick to boot.

Not sure about the Thabeet trade though. Sure, Battier probably walks in the offseason and it's nice to get something for him now. But Thabeet looks pretty shitty right now. Still, at this point it probably doesn't hurt to roll the dice on a high reward high risk prospect.

[benefactor]

Rasual Butler would be a nice fit. Jamario Moon and Anthony Parker are also possible buyout candidates that would work for the Spurs.

As for Anthony Parker, source says no chance of a buyout. The Cavs "kept him for a reason," source said.

[Bruno]

The trade deadline has been very late this year which means that we won't have to wait along time before the March 1st buyout deadline. If Spurs want to add a good SF, bought out players are the last hope to do so.

[Darkwaters]

Since Pop is allergic to the prospect of adding more size, I'd have to cosign on Butler

Butler is a smart player too.

Jamario Moon - not so much.

And I have no real interest in Parker.

[ace3g]

Speaking of the Rasual Butler option, when is the deadline for players being waived and still allowed to join a team and be part of playoff rotation?

[Mel_13]

Butler is a smart player too.

Jamario Moon - not so much.

And I have no real interest in Parker.

Basically agree. Butler, if available, is the best option in that group. I'd still take Moon over Novak.

[Mel_13]

Speaking of the Rasual Butler option, when is the deadline for players being waived and still allowed to join a team and be part of playoff rotation?

Must be waived by March 1st. Can sign at any point thereafter.

[benefactor]

Speaking of the Rasual Butler option, when is the deadline for players being waived and still allowed to join a team and be part of playoff rotation?

The trade deadline has been very late this year which means that we won't have to wait along time before the March 1st buyout deadline. If Spurs want to add a good SF, bought out players are the last hope to do so.

[Darkwaters]

Basically agree. Butler, if available, is the best option in that group. I'd still take Moon over Novak.

Ummm, +10000 on that notion. I still stand that Novak is a garbage signing that does nothing for us.

If we want a 3 pt shooter that can do absolutely nothing else I hear Jason Kapono is getting bought out.

[moisaenz]

Ummm, +10000 on that notion. I still stand that Novak is a garbage signing that does nothing for us.

If we want a 3 pt shooter that can do absolutely nothing else I hear Jason Kapono is getting bought out.

I was going to mention Kapono but he has not played at all recently.

[MarHill]

Since Pop is allergic to the prospect of adding more size, I'd have to cosign on Butler

Senor Spur,

I think that's a little unfair about Pop and getting size.

The problem who was out there that they could realistically (not what fans think they could get with unrealistic trades) and play in front of Splitter.

Plus with only 25 games left it would not be easy to incorporate a good big into the Spurs system in that short of a time period before the playoffs.

[Seventyniner]

Ummm, +10000 on that notion. I still stand that Novak is a garbage signing that does nothing for us.

If we want a 3 pt shooter that can do absolutely nothing else I hear Jason Kapono is getting bought out.

According to CBA rules, the Spurs have to have at least 13 players on the roster. Novak is just keeping that spot occupied until or unless the Spurs find someone they actually want.

[Darkwaters]

Butler is my favored target now. I like Tracy McGrady too, but considering Detroit's stance on their players I doubt hes getting bought out...

It's a simple Six step process
1) Let Novak's 10 day expire, do not resign
2) Sign Rasual Butler
3) Sign Marcus Cousin
4) Take it into the playoffs with those 14
5) Win title
6) River parade (my money is on Neal with the bigass sombrero)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2007/07/james-white-sombrero-180.jpg

James White!

[coyotes_geek]

Rasual Butler has been sucking this year. He's not off the list entirely, but he's not nearly as appealing as he was this offseason. If Balkman gets bought out I'd rather have him.

[DesignatedT]

Yeah I'd be cool with Butler although I'm sure other teams would be interested also that might top his list.

Not real sure what BOS and OKC were thinking. OKC obviously panicking and changing up there whole philosophy about how they want to play offensively and defensively.... Don't like what they are doing and I don't think they are going to make any noise come playoff time.

Don't really like the move for Boston either. They are now relying on the broke down O'neal's to take them home at that C position which I don't really see happening. Green is pretty overrated also tbh.

[Sense]

I thought it expired at 15:00 on Thursday 2/24 in the US. We've got another 11 hours 15 minutes.

WTF? :lol:lol:lol


How old are you?


Today is Thursday... and 15:00 is 3 pm.. being that it's probably eastern time (since I don't know when it's over) it was at 2 pm.

[Darkwaters]

Rasual Butler has been sucking this year. He's not off the list entirely, but he's not nearly as appealing as he was this offseason. If Balkman gets bought out I'd rather have him.

With bought out players you don't typically get the pick of the litter. Theres a reason there getting bought out.

PS: Blair provides more floor spacing than Balkman. I like him too but hes probably counter productive in our system.

[benefactor]

To make the 3-1 Wallace deal and the 2-1 Nazr deal, CHAR has to waive 3 incumbent players. Sherron Collins, Dominic McGuire, Derrick Brown?
Yes...waive Derrick Brown please.

[coyotes_geek]

With bought out players you don't typically get the pick of the litter. Theres a reason there getting bought out.

PS: Blair provides more floor spacing than Balkman. I like him too but hes probably counter productive in our system.

Butler only helps on one end of the court and that's not the end of the court I'm worried about. If Butler's the best available then so be it, I'm fine with getting him. But if the Spurs have a choice I'd rather have someone who has the potential to play a little bit of defense or rebound.

[CGD]

If he's bought out, I say full court press on getting Pryz first. If we strike out, then a wing like Butler. Playoff rosters shorten anyway, and I think our 5 player rotation at the 1, 2 & 3 is set in any event.

I doubt Pop gives Splitter much run these playoffs, so it makes sense to pick up vet with playoff experience.

[ohmwrecker]

Yes...waive Derrick Brown please.

I would be happy with either Brown or McGuire.

[Vic Petro]

Jeffries and Songaila also buyout candidates.

[moisaenz]

Jeffries and Songaila also buyout candidates.
Splitter is better than Songaila and bigger,might as well gamble it with splitter.

[tdunk21]

cavs just waived leon powe

[rascal]

WTF? :lol:lol:lol


How old are you?


Today is Thursday... and 15:00 is 3 pm.. being that it's probably eastern time (since I don't know when it's over) it was at 2 pm.

Maybe the Spurs made a blockbuster trade, just hasn't been announced yet! :lol

[Gagnrath]

WTF? :lol:lol:lol


How old are you?


Today is Thursday... and 15:00 is 3 pm.. being that it's probably eastern time (since I don't know when it's over) it was at 2 pm.

I wrote that a few hours ago, Why would you set a dead line for the entire US at eastern standard time when parts of the US like Howland and Baker aren't going to be at that time for another 8 hours? Either use zulu like real people or use the timezone of your country's westernmost point.

[Sense]

I wrote that a few hours ago, Why would you set a dead line for the entire US at eastern standard time when parts of the US like Howland and Baker aren't going to be at that time for another 8 hours? Either use zulu like real people or use the timezone of your country's westernmost point.

You wrote that at 2:45... 45 minutes after the deadline..


I don't think you understand time..

See whenever an eastern website says the deadline is going to be 15:00pm eastern time.. then you should do your own math.. wherever you are... they're not going to announce the time for every time zone in the US.

[Mel_13]

The Bobcats have waived guard Sherron Collins and forward Dominic McGuire.

http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

[ace3g]

ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
RT @alanhahn Source says upon completing a buyout with the Rockets, perhaps as early as tomorrow, Jared Jeffries will sign with Knicks

[Gagnrath]

You wrote that at 2:45... 45 minutes after the deadline..


I don't think you understand time..

See whenever an eastern website says the deadline is going to be 15:00pm eastern time.. then you should do your own math.. wherever you are... they're not going to announce the time for every time zone in the US.

I understand time, that deadline was never stated as NAEST (UTC-5) time. It makes no sense for an international organization to set deadlines in UTC-5. It makes sense and is common practice for international organizations to use UTC time or Zulu, or second most commonly the western most timezone of the countries the organization is in which in the case of the NBA is UTC-12 the latest time zone in the United States.

[Ditty]

The Bobcats have waived guard Sherron Collins and forward Dominic McGuire.

http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

I like Dominic McGuire young, athletic, and solid defender probably the best defender out there right now who is bought out. He's not a great shooter, but he can knock down a 3 if open, and can create offense.

Would like him if no other SF's get bought out

[Gagnrath]

The Bobcats have waived guard Sherron Collins and forward Dominic McGuire.

http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

McGuire is actually decent insurance as a back-up as a big 3 small 4 who is cheap, not reason not to see if we can take a flier on him.

[ace3g]

I like Dominic McGuire young, athletic, and solid defender probably the best defender out there right now who is bought out. He's not a great shooter, but he can knock down a 3 if open, and can create offense.

Would like him if no other SF's get bought out

Looking at his stats on yahoo sports, he has only hit 2 3s the past 3 seasons and only attempted 5 in that same span. What I do remember from his playing time a few years back, is that he was a good rebounder and defender; something we could use at the SF spot

[benefactor]

The Bobcats have waived guard Sherron Collins and forward Dominic McGuire.

http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA
Don't they have to waive at least one more?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Don't they have to waive at least one more?

Yahoo! Sports say they are waiving three guys -

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AntAs1qA8kV_XVQkxY4Rn6C8vLYF?slug=ap-trailblazers-bobcatstrade


Forwards Dominic McGuire(notes) and Derrick Brown(notes) and guard Sherron Collins(notes) will be waived to make room on Charlotte’s roster.

The Spurs can think of either McGuire (zero offense, good defense) or Derrick Brown (decent defense, inexperience)...

[benefactor]

Nice. If Butler does not get bought out both of those guys are decent fall back options.

[Bruno]

I take McGuire over Brown. He will be a nice role player to have at the end of the bench.

[ohmwrecker]

I don't know if the source is legit or not, but I heard the Spurs are giving McGuire serious consideration.

[SenorSpur]

I don't know if the source is legit or not, but I heard the Spurs are giving McGuire serious consideration.

Let's hope this is true. Just out of curiousity, can you divulge your source?

A couple of questions to the more-informed masses:

How does McGuire stack up against a player like Renaldo Balkman?
Which one would be considered the better rebounder and defender?

After some research, I found this snippet on McGuire from DraftExpress (it's 3 years old)

Defensively, McGuire shows the ability to defend both the perimeter and the post, and his combination of size, athleticism, and effort lets him make some plays on that end. McGuire will have a chance to earn himself some money this season with the Wizards.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dominic-McGuire-1162/#ixzz1EzdXgRsP
http://www.draftexpress.com

[xmas1997]

I don't know if the source is legit or not, but I heard the Spurs are giving McGuire serious consideration.

Hope you're right about that!
Where did you hear it?

[ace3g]

if it was between McGuire and Brown; I'd go with McGuire, he is a much better rebounder and has a little more NBA experience

[ohmwrecker]

Let's hope this is true. Just out of curiousity, can you divulge your source?

A couple of questions to the more-informed masses:

How does McGuire stack up against a player like Renaldo Balkman?
Which one would be considered the better rebounder and defender?

I would rather not. I want to see if this is a legit source. However, the source also mentioned that the Spurs have been interested in McGuire for a couple of years and he had been given the "next Bowen" label some time ago.
Personally, I think he is better than Balkman in all regards.

[SenorSpur]

I would rather not. I want to see if this is a legit source. However, the source also mentioned that the Spurs have been interested in McGuire for a couple of years and he had been given the "next Bowen" label some time ago.
Personally, I think he is better than Balkman in all regards.

That's good news and some really high praise.

[Mel_13]

Let's hope this is true. Just out of curiousity, can you divulge your source?

A couple of questions to the more-informed masses:

How does McGuire stack up against a player like Renaldo Balkman?
Which one would be considered the better rebounder and defender?

McGuire put up very good rebounding numbers for the Bobcats this season while Balkman only played in 5 games all year. In fact, Balkman has only played in 18 games (135 minutes) in last two seasons combined.

The most important difference for now is that McGuire is available and Balkman is not.

[ace3g]

maybe Larry Brown gave Pop some good info on McGuire while he was the coach there

[xmas1997]

I would rather not. I want to see if this is a legit source. However, the source also mentioned that the Spurs have been interested in McGuire for a couple of years and he had been given the "next Bowen" label some time ago.
Personally, I think he is better than Balkman in all regards.

Ok, but the "Bowen" label is pretty impressive although remains to seen.
If he can also learn to shoot a lot better then he would be an asset for sure.
Coaching staff can address that issue in the off season.
The question, does he want to play here over other places?

[SenorSpur]

McGuire put up very good rebounding numbers for the Bobcats this season while Balkman only played in 5 games all year. In fact, Balkman has only played in 18 games (135 minutes) in last two seasons combined.

It sort of makes one wonder just what the hell the Bobtails are doing? What exactly is their strategy? They sought to trim salary by dumping the expensive contract of Gerald Wallace. They found a taker in Portland, but I will strongly believe that they could've and should've held out for a 1st round pick because Portland was absolutely giddy for Wallace. They were about as desparate to acquire him, as the Bobtails were to give him up. Instead, the Bobtails accepted a 2nd round pick.

After the Wallace trade, one would believe the team was rebuilding and going young. However, they then inexplicably cut 2 young, inexpensive players - McGuire being one.

It just doesn't appear that they have a direction. If you're MJ, I just don't know how you sell that to your fan base.

[ohmwrecker]

Ok, but the "Bowen" label is pretty impressive although remains to seen.
If he can also learn to shoot a lot better then he would be an asset for sure.
Coaching staff can address that issue in the off season.
The question, does he want to play here over other places?

Yeah, the "next Bowen" thing is :rolleyes, but if the Spurs have been interested since he was on the Wiz, it make sense that they would be interested now. He is really athletic, can play/defend the 3 or the 4 and although he isn't a great ball handler, he is good enough to get to the rim and strong enough to finish or get to the line.

[SenorSpur]

maybe Larry Brown gave Pop some good info on McGuire while he was the coach there

God, I hope not. If so, then I'm officially worried because it was Larry Brown how sang the praises of and ultimately sold Pop on the great Jackie Butler.

[SenorSpur]

Yeah, the "next Bowen" thing is :rolleyes, but if the Spurs have been interested since he was on the Wiz, it make sense that they would be interested now. He is really athletic, can play/defend the 3 or the 4 and although he isn't a great ball handler, he is good enough to get to the rim and strong enough to finish or get to the line.

That's the book on him from DraftExpress and that's exactly what the Spurs need. It all sounds good and I hope they're able to make a decision on him.

[ohmwrecker]

God, I hope not. If so, then I'm officially worried because it was Larry Brown how sang the praises of and ultimately sold Pop on the great Jackie Butler.

Butler had potential at the time, but he got out of shape, had motivation issues and went downhill fast. The Spurs, apparently, have had interest in McGuire before he was a Bobcat.

[Bruno]

After the Wallace trade, one would believe the team was rebuilding and going young. However, they then inexplicably cut 2 young, inexpensive players - McGuire being one.


The Nazr trade was a 2 for 1 and the Wllace trade was a 3 for 1. Bobcats carries a full 15 players roster. In order not to exceed the max roster size, they had to cut 3 players before doing these trades (McGuire, Collins and Brown).

[FvckMavs]

maybe Larry Brown gave Pop some good info on McGuire while he was the coach there

Last time Larry Brown gave Pop some good info on Butler and it costs Scola.

[xmas1997]

If they can convince McGuire to play here then coach Chip E. can work on his 3 pt. shooting in the off season.

[SenorSpur]

The Nazr trade was a 2 for 1 and the Wllace trade was a 3 for 1. Bobcats carries a full 15 players roster. In order not to exceed the max roster size, they had to cut 3 players before doing these trades (McGuire, Collins and Brown).

Thanks for the clarification.