Official: Melo traded to Knicks

[PGDynasty24]

TRADE official, source told Denver Post. Melo to Knicks www.denverpost.com/sports
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Denver gets Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Anthony will go to New York, along with Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman.

[VBM]

Guess he lied to Sager

[Mel_13]

Not official.

[DPG21920]

Not official and did this really need it's own thread?

[Pistons < Spurs]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Carmelo Anthony is now a member of the Knicks, source tells Y! Sports.

[Kori Ellis]

Official. He just posted the wrong link.
http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17443219

[ElNono]

http://twitter.com/nuggetsnews

says it's official according to sources...

[PGDynasty24]

It's official bitches suck on it. But league office is closed but everyone has come to agreement,so it will be official in the morning

[ElNono]

Billups headed there too, according to the news... I thought Billups didn't want to go there?

[ElNono]

Denver gets Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Anthony will go to New York, along with Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman.

[VBM]

Nuggets will still be decent.

[PGDynasty24]

Damn though Denver sure did do work on Knicks. Gallinari,Chandler,Felton the big guy and 1st rounder

[ElNono]

At least Denver keeps Nene... funny they couldn't get rid of JR Smith though :lol

[Pistons < Spurs]

KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Two people involved in the discussions confirm Denver Post report (via @nuggets news) that Knicks and Nuggets have agreed to Melo trade.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Denver got what they could, I really wouldn't be happy with this if I
was a Denver fan. Nothing compared to the Nets package

[slick'81]

best denve could hope for in terms of talent im sure

[LakerHater]

BREAKING NEWS


The Denver Nuggets have reportedly traded Carmelo Anthony to the New York Knicks in a blockbuster deal.


cbs.com

[ohmwrecker]

Renaldo Balkman back in NYC!

[koriwhat]

well that was fast, thank god it didn't get dragged out for months on end and it never became a huge debacle or drama vortex.

[jjktkk]

Damn though Denver sure did do work on Knicks. Gallinari,Chandler,Felton the big guy and 1st rounder

Can't see Denver keeping Chandler, Gallinari, and Affalo. I can see Denver making another move.

[Ice009]

Denver got what they could, I really wouldn't be happy with this if I
was a Denver fan. Nothing compared to the Nets package

What was the Nets package?

[DPG21920]

Why are people so high on Mozgov? He seems ok, but I don't see why that is such a big deal.

[DPG21920]

Is Minny not involved? Or will that be a separate trade?

[Dex]

Well, this should hopefully remove the Nuggets from the thick of things. That, and one less superstar the Spurs have to deal with 4 times a year + playoffs. :tu

[DPG21920]

Nuggets got better overall.

[Dex]

well that was fast, thank god it didn't get dragged out for months on end and it never became a huge debacle or drama vortex.

Melo didn't want to make a big deal out of it like Lebron did.

[djohn2oo8]

Knicks just got So worked

[Nick Manning]

Fuck yes!

[LakerHater]

Denver Post: Denver gets Chandler, Felton, Gallinari, Mozgov, Knicks '14 1st, Warriors' 2nds in '12 and '13 and $3 million.

To recap, Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman are headed to New York, with the Knicks sending Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, and Raymond Felton to Denver. In addition to those three, Timofey Mozgov was added to the Knicks final offer at the last second and is headed to Denver, as well. Finally, it appears the Nuggets also picked up three draft picks and cash. Quite the haul for Anthony's services.

[Pistons < Spurs]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Y! Sports: NY: Melo, CB, Balkman, Williams, Carter; DEN: Gallo, Mosgov, Felton, Chandler, '14 NY 1st & 2 2nds; Minn: Randolph and Curry.

[ElNono]

Denver at least was able to pull something out of this...

It just sucks that Melo got so blatantly away with forcing this shit up when he's not even a FA...

[DesignatedT]

good deal for denver. All of those players are solid and still have potential to get better.

[JamStone]

Considering the Knicks were the only team Melo would sign with, Denver did well to get as much as they did. Knicks were probably nervous that the Nets could convince Melo to sign an extension.

Billups
Landry
Melo
Amare
Turiaf?

[Dex]

Nuggets got better overall.

Talent-wise, maybe. They just got a lot of assets moving forward.

As for this current group, do you think they can bring it together in 30 games and be ready for a playoff run? They just lost their franchise player and emotional leader in one fail swoop.

[LakerHater]

Nuggets trade Carmelo to Knicks

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/2.0/sect/basketball/nba/teampages/promos/knicks.gif (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/knicks)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/2.0/sect/basketball/nba/teampages/promos/nuggets.gif (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/nuggets)


Carmelo Anthony is on his way to New York.
SI.com's Chris Mannix has confirmed that the Nuggets have traded the four-time All-Star to the Knicks.
According to reports, the Nuggets will receive Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks' 2014 first-round pick, the Warriors second-round picks for 2012 and '03 and $3 million in cash.
Joining Anthony in New York will be Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman.





Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/02/21/knicks.nuggets.carmelo.trade/index.html#ixzz1EeewgPum

[Nick Manning]

starting lineup of CB, Melo, Fields, STAT and ???

not much of a bench though but I'm liking it so far

[IronMexican]

So New York couldn't have waited till the off-season?

[Nick Manning]

Considering the Knicks were the only team Melo would sign with, Denver did well to get as much as they did. Knicks were probably nervous that the Nets could convince Melo to sign an extension.

Billups
Landry
Melo
Amare
Turiaf?

beat me to it

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Knicks fans are having a meltdown, haven't seen them this angry in a while..

[ElNono]

So.. is Isiah involved in this somehow? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

So New York couldn't have waited till the off-season?

Melo didn't want to wait

[DPG21920]

They are more deep and will probably play better team ball. They have more scoring overall. Depending on whom they keep, they won't be that much worse off, if at all imo.

Whom did Minny give up? Brewer?

[djohn2oo8]

The bad thing about this is Chris Broussard and those other idiots were on the money

[DesignatedT]

Props to Denver for playing it out like this. They definitely got a good deal.

[redzero]

http://www.chaobell.net/newgallery/d/2905-2/awwwwshit.jpg

[Nick Manning]

We're getting a crazy-motivated (and happy) Melo, a rejuvenated STAT (he's gotta be loving this), a cagey vet at PG, and other pieces and we're playing in the East. We ain't a title-contending team but we'll sure as shit be fun to watch imo

[koriwhat]

So.. is Isiah involved in this somehow? :lol

i wouldn't doubt it one bit

[Mel_13]

It was a game of chicken and the Knicks flinched.

[ElNono]

http://www.chaobell.net/newgallery/d/2905-2/awwwwshit.jpg

:lol

[ohmwrecker]

Melo didn't want to wait

I think the Knicks panicked.

[JamStone]

Wilson Chandler is a free agent after this season anyway. He wasn't getting re-signed by the Knicks with their eyes on upgrading PG in a few years. Gallinari is the key guy that made the deal work. Felton has had a good year certainly doesn't seem irreplaceable, especially since the Knicks would rather target CP3 or Deron in a coupld seasons. I know Mozgov had a couple of good games recently and the Knicks didn't really want to give him up, but chances are, he's not going to that great anyway. If he does become a really good player, then the deal will look worse for the Knicks. But right now, it looks more like Melo for Gallinari and a couple of picks. Knicks gave up more than they wanted and more than what most people expected, but I still think they did well to get Melo if they really thought the Nets had a chance to get Melo and get him to sign an extension.

[DesignatedT]

We're getting a crazy-motivated (and happy) Melo, a rejuvenated STAT (he's gotta be loving this), a cagey vet at PG, and other pieces and we're playing in the East. We ain't a title-contending team but we'll sure as shit be fun to watch imo

New York is far from contending for a title. They would have been better off without this trade IMHO.

[DPG21920]

We will see how Melo and Amare fit. We have seen Amare with another superstar (Nash), but not another superstar, iso scorer. The spacing will be interesting.

Denver did not get anyone with superstar upside, but they got very good, already somewhat proven young talent.

Most people go for guys like Favors, which will probably end up just being ok, but I think it is much smarter in the NBA to go for what is known, especially when they are young and have shown improvement.

Upside is usually overrated and there is very rarely a good enough upside to justify passing on quality, although unspectacular talent like Gallo/Wilson/Felton.

[DPG21920]

Why would the Knicks not sign Chandler? At worse, they could have done a sign and trade.

[DesignatedT]

I'd even say that Denver will be the better team with this new roster then New York.

[djohn2oo8]

The Nets did a good job of getting in the Knicks' head to the point of them thinking they would lose Melo in FA. Boy did they make em' pay

[WildcardManu]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/02/21/knicks.nuggets.carmelo.trade/index.html?eref=BrkNews

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Denver got what they could, I really wouldn't be happy with this if I
was a Denver fan. Nothing compared to the Nets package



I'm sure Denver preferred the Nets' package. But, Anthony declining to sign the extension with the Nets was ultimately the deal-breaker.

[DPG21920]

Knicks definitely have better top talent (Amare and Melo are both top 15 players and Denver has none.)

[djohn2oo8]

One thing still not clear: Did Donnie Walsh's self-respect end up in Denver or Minnesota? #dolanyoujerk (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23dolanyoujerk) 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/ekoreen/status/39891158096281600) via web

http://twitter.com/ekoreen/statuses/39891158096281600

:lol



Donnie Walsh ally says of steep price paid for Melo: "This is all Dolan. All Isiah. All (Worldwide) Wes and Leon Rose..."

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

[HarlemHeat37]

Knicks have set themselves up to be a perennial ECF/ECSF exit team for a 4-5 year window, so I think it's a decent deal on their end, they got Anthony, which was obviously the primary objective..it's a lot better than being a shitty team, year after year..they will desperately need solid defenders at all 3 of the other positions, which will be difficult to find..

They still need a legit big next to Stoudemire, he's in foul trouble in virtually every game..

The Nuggets got a great deal, considering Anthony was going to leave..the Knicks felt the pressure from the Nets, Dolan pressured the Knicks' front office to get a deal done..the Nuggets front office played it excellently..the Nuggets will still compete for the playoffs..

[Nick Manning]

We will see how Melo and Amare fit. We have seen Amare with another superstar (Nash), but not another superstar, iso scorer. The spacing will be interesting.

Denver did not get anyone with superstar upside, but they got very good, already somewhat proven young talent.

Most people go for guys like Favors, which will probably end up just being ok, but I think it is much smarter in the NBA to go for what is known, especially when they are young and have shown improvement.

Upside is usually overrated and there is very rarely a good enough upside to justify passing on quality, although unspectacular talent like Gallo/Wilson/Felton.

tbh CB will play a big part in melding Melo and Stat's games together. To everyone calling this trade a Denver win, they obviously haven't watch the NBA over the last 20, 30, 40, fuck...forever. This is a star-driven league, nyukkas

[WildcardManu]

Wow, stiff price to pay for melo.

[LakerHater]

Nuggets coach George Karl has pushed team officials to make the deal with the Knicks over a straight trade with the Nets because it would better position the Nuggets to contend for the playoffs this season, a source with knowledge of Denver’s plan said.

[bostonguy]

Nuggets might have gotten rid of Melo, but he was the closest thing to a superstar that they had. Now they have to hope Gallo can be that or they won't really have much of a future to build on. You still need superstars to build around to win in this league.

[Pistons < Spurs]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Donnie Walsh ally says of steep price paid for Melo: "This is all Dolan. All Isiah. All (Worldwide) Wes and Leon Rose..."

[DesignatedT]

Yeah, I agree. New York will now be in the discussion year in and year out and will be a top 5 team in the East for a long time to come that's for sure so I guess they accomplished what they wanted by getting Melo. Just thinking about all the talent they already had there and the possibility of Melo signing on as a FA next season without them having to lose anything just sticks in my mind. They could have really been a great team if they could have kept that talent and added melo, not just a good team.

[Mel_13]

Wilson Chandler is a free agent after this season anyway. He wasn't getting re-signed. Gallinari is the guy that made the deal work. Felton has had a good year certainly doesn't seem replaceable, especially since the Knicks would rather target CP3 or Deron in a coupld seasons. I know Mozgov had a couple of good games recently and the Knicks didn't really want to give him up, but chances are, he's not going to that great anyway. If he does become a really good player, then the deal will look worse for the Knicks. But right now, it looks more like Melo for Gallinari and a couple of picks. Knicks gave up more than they wanted and more than what most people expected, but I still think they did well to get Melo if they really thought the Nets had a chance to get Melo and get him to sign an extension.

The Chauncey for Felton part can work for the Knicks in the long run. They'll want to add Paul or Williams in 2012, but it's extremely unlikely that they'll ever have enough cap space to sign one of them as a FA with Amare and Melo on the books. So, they need a huge expiring contract to combine with picks and cheap young players to complete a trade for one of the superstar PGs.

Next year at this time Chauncey will be a critical part of the trade that brings Paul or Williams to NY.

[Fabbs]

How does Golden State figure in this with the picks?

What does GS receive?

[Ice009]

Melo didn't want to wait

Of course he didn't want to wait. He wants the cash.

[djohn2oo8]

How does Golden State figure in this with the picks?

What does GS receive?

The lube

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Nuggets might have gotten rid of Melo, but he was the closest thing to a superstar that they had. Now they have to hope Gallo can be that or they won't really have much of a future to build on. You still need superstars to build around to win in this league.




It doesn't help when your superstar no longer wants to play for your team.

[Nick Manning]

If Melo gets injured I'm going to stick a revolver in my mouth

[silverblk mystix]

I think Melo will thrive in D'antoni's system...at least the knicks will be exciting to watch...maybe even win a first round series...

[scottspurs]

Wow New York is gonna have a horrible defense. Denver can still make the playoffs with the team they have now.

[ShoogarBear]

ESPN now reporting that some of the traded Knicks may now be headed to the Nets: Either Gallinari, Felton, or Chandler plus Mozgov for two picks. :lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6144608&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

[baseline bum]

:lol Knicks fans are having a meltdown, haven't seen them this angry in a while..

link?

[MiamiHeat]

wow that's awesome.

finally New York gets to their senses and makes the move.

I actually want to tune into some Knicks games now :P Billups-Melo-Stat.....

in the off-season, sign some pieces to fill out roster over time... should be nice.

Knicks will finally return to the playoffs every year

[scottspurs]

THis has Nash to New yOrk in a few years written all over it.

[Nick Manning]

Wow New York is gonna have a horrible defense. Denver can still make the playoffs with the team they have now.

yeah cause they were an elite D before the trade:lmao

[Nick Manning]

THis has Nash to New yOrk in a few years written all over it.

Would you still take Dick Jefferson over Melo, scrah?

[ShoogarBear]

THis has Nash to New yOrk in a few years written all over it.

In a few years????? Man, that'll be a powerhouse.

[bostonguy]

It doesn't help when your superstar no longer wants to play for your team.

I am not saying getting rid of Melo was stupid. People here think Denver made out like bandits when they really didn't. If Gallo isn't a superstar, then Denver doesn't have much of a future to build on. If he is just another all-star, Denver will be the same ole average team they were during the Melo era. A team of nice players doesn't get you very far.

[scottspurs]

yeah cause they were an elite D before the trade:lmao

This is true. :toast

[scottspurs]

Would you still take Dick Jefferson over Melo, scrah?

Yes

[bostonguy]

Even if Denver makes the playoffs, they are out in 5 games or a sweep in the first round. No superstar=super quick playoff exit.

[DPG21920]

Lot to take in, but Denver is crowded at the wing position. Have to believe Chandler will be moved again.

[DesignatedT]

That would be retarded by Denver to send 2 of those guys to New Jersey IMO. If I'm Denver I definitely want to keep all those guys except maybe Chandler

[Nick Manning]

Yes

I forgot your reasoning...what was it again?

[scottspurs]

Only thing bad about the trade looking at it from Denver's perspective is the fact that they didn't get rid of Al Harrington.

[coyotes_geek]

How does Golden State figure in this with the picks?

What does GS receive?

Pretty sure the Knicks got those GS 2nd rounders in the David Lee deal.

[hitmanyr2k]

THis has Nash to New yOrk in a few years written all over it.

A 39-40 year old Nash isn't gonna cut it.

[DMX7]

They did pretty well considering.

[baseline bum]

Wow, the Knicks had Denver over a barrel and this is the best they could do? These kind of trades are almost always monstrously lopsided, but this ends up being a pretty nice consolation prize for the Nuggets. Brilliantly executed job by Denver to get everything they wanted out of the Knicks when they were in a position of such weakness in the negotiation.

[manufan10]

The Chauncey for Felton part can work for the Knicks in the long run. They'll want to add Paul or Williams in 2012, but it's extremely unlikely that they'll ever have enough cap space to sign one of them as a FA with Amare and Melo on the books. So, they need a huge expiring contract to combine with picks and cheap young players to complete a trade for one of the superstar PGs.

Next year at this time Chauncey will be a critical part of the trade that brings Paul or Williams to NY.

I see that happening.

[scottspurs]

I forgot your reasoning...what was it again?

I don't like to break up team chemistry. Melo would of never fit on the spurs. It's not because Jefferson is a better player or anything like that.

[Mugen]

New york lays the foundation down for a championship contending team if they get CP3/Deron in a couple years.

and Denver doesnt end up like Cleveland.

good for both sides but history will probably show the Knicks being the winners of this trade.

[coyotes_geek]

That would be retarded by Denver to send 2 of those guys to New Jersey IMO. If I'm Denver I definitely want to keep all those guys except maybe Chandler

A first round draft pick from the Nets stands a better chance at becoming a superstar than anyone they got from the Knicks does.

[Nick Manning]

I don't like to break up team chemistry. Melo would of never fit on the spurs. It's not because Jefferson is a better player or anything like that.

You should be a GM, tbh. I think Memphis might be hiring soon

[ShoogarBear]

Wow, the Knicks had Denver over a barrel and this is the best they could do? These kind of trades are almost always monstrously lopsided, but this ends up being a pretty nice consolation prize for the Nuggets. Brilliantly executed job by Denver to get everything they wanted out of the Knicks when they were in a position of such weakness in the negotiation.

http://weblogs.cw11.com/sports/bobbyversustheworld/image/ISIAH-THOMAS-BLOG.jpg

[MiamiHeat]

eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

[DesignatedT]

A first round draft pick from the Nets stands a better chance at becoming a superstar than anyone they got from the Knicks does.

Gallinari has great potential to be something special in this league. Mozgov has also proved himself and can turn into something special. Also, this years draft class is very weak. I definitely wouldn't trade proven players in Gallinari and Felton for a first round pick that will probably not even be a top 5 pick.

[Nick Manning]

eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

MH with the goods, tbh.

[scottspurs]

eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

Better than watching him walk like Cleveland did. They had to get something. Should of got rid of Harrington though.

[DPG21920]

That would be retarded by Denver to send 2 of those guys to New Jersey IMO. If I'm Denver I definitely want to keep all those guys except maybe Chandler

Not really. Mozgov is a non-issue. Denver has a lot of wings. If they can get a 1st rounder and/or Favors for a package of Mozgov/Chandler, I think that is better overall.

Not quite as good short term, but that NJ pick is going to be top 10.

[coyotes_geek]

eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

The Knicks definitely won the deal, but the Nuggets should still feel pretty good for making the best of a bad situation.

[DesignatedT]

Does Billups' contract expire after the season?

[baseline bum]

eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

Clearly New York got the better end of the trade, but equally clearly, Walsh would have gotten the deal done and still had Chandler or Gallinari to move for another upgrade. Denver was in no position to dictate the terms of the deal. James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.

[HarlemHeat37]

eh, those of you doubting who won this deal, it was New York.

A bunch of role players + a decent player who may or may not ever be anything in this league for Melo, Billups, and some role players?

New York is now a permanent playoff team every single year... and a championship isn't out of the question depending on how well they round out the roster in the next 2-4 years.

The winner of the trade is meaningless to me, but you have to consider the circumstances..Denver was never going to receive "equal value" for Carmelo, especially since his contract is going to expire at the end of the year(barring the extension, obviously)..

The Nuggets did as well as they could have hoped for..obviously they aren't going to be as good as the Knicks, now or in the future, so I don't know why anybody would believe that, but they set themselves up nicely to become a perennial playoff team, instead of the Cavs(which might not be a good thing, since they will miss out on high lottery picks, but some teams prefer competing)..

[scottspurs]

Does Billups' contract expire after the season?

I believe he has next year under contract

[DesignatedT]

Not really. Mozgov is a non-issue. Denver has a lot of wings. If they can get a 1st rounder and/or Favors for a package of Mozgov/Chandler, I think that is better overall.

Not quite as good short term, but that NJ pick is going to be top 10.

If Favors is rumored to be in the deal then that's different. I would do that but I wouldn't get rid of Gallinari and/or Felton for a 1st rounder in a pretty weak draft.

[ElNono]

So does Donnie Walsh has his days numbered in NY?

[Ice009]

Why do the Nuggets want to make the playoffs in my question? Wouldn't they prefer a lottery pick?

Sure Denver might not be Cleveland because they got some decent players back, but what is the point of being a middle of the road team with no Superstar? Do they plan or trying to sign someone through free agency in a year or two? Do they have the cap space to do that? If not shouldn't they be looking towards the lottery instead?

[Mugen]

Gallinari has great potential to be something special in this league. Mozgov has also proved himself and can turn into something special. Also, this years draft class is very weak. I definitely wouldn't trade proven players in Gallinari and Felton for a first round pick that will probably not even be a top 5 pick.

Gallos upside is a 3rd option. Mozgov's upside is a solid starting center.

Denver did a good job of getting something for Melo but they're worse off after this deal then before.

[InRareForm]

MH but Denver did what was in their best interest and they got good value. Better than nothing in return.

[scottspurs]

So does Donnie Walsh has his days numbered in NY?

No way he comes back. I could see him resigning soon if he is mad enough.

[MiamiHeat]

Clearly New York got the better end of the trade, but equally clearly, Walsh would have gotten the deal done and still had Chandler or Gallinari to move for another upgrade. Denver was in no position to dictate the terms of the deal. James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.

you are absolutely right. but what can we say about a knicks front office that STILL asks isiah thomas for advice?

:lmao

[LakerHater]

So the Nuggs are like 2 deep in every position?

[coyotes_geek]

Gallinari has great potential to be something special in this league. Mozgov has also proved himself and can turn into something special. Also, this years draft class is very weak. I definitely wouldn't trade proven players in Gallinari and Felton for a first round pick that will probably not even be a top 5 pick.

You're a lot higher on Gallinari than I am. I can see him being a really good player, maybe even one who can make an all-star team, but not someone you can build a team around.

[Findog]

Pretty good haul for Denver considering they were going to lose him anyways

[DesignatedT]

Gallos upside is a 3rd option. Mozgov's upside is a solid starting center.

Denver did a good job of getting something for Melo but they're worse off after this deal then before.

Well yeah they just lost a top 10 player in the game but I thought they did a nice job of what they are receiving in return.

[coyotes_geek]

Why do the Nuggets want to make the playoffs in my question. Wouldn't they prefer a lottery pick.

If I were them I would, but you can't come out and publicly admit that.

[scottspurs]

So the Nuggs are like 2 deep in every position?

Their like the Houston Rockets. A lot of talent with nowhere to go.

[Mel_13]

James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.

He's held that title for quite some time now. Sterling is the most despicable, but Dolan is the stupidest.

[manufan10]

After seeing this... Toronto should have traded Bosh last year.. can't believe they didn't pull the trigger.

[lefty]

How many times a season do the Nuggets face the Clippers ?


I mean, poor Mozgov

[Findog]

Clearly New York got the better end of the trade, but equally clearly, Walsh would have gotten the deal done and still had Chandler or Gallinari to move for another upgrade. Denver was in no position to dictate the terms of the deal. James Dolan is now officially the stupidest owner in the league.

Lock the thread.

[Nick Manning]

Denver did well for themselves, but unfortunately their ceiling is being the WC version of the Hawks

[MiamiHeat]

After seeing this... Toronto should have traded Bosh last year.. can't believe they didn't pull the trigger.

The only reason Denver got away with this is BECAUSE of the LeBron and Bosh situation.

Cleveland and Toronto held on to hope that they would keep their superstars.

Denver just benefited from their experience, plus you can't expect most teams to be as fucking stupid as New York. That front office needs to be purged out. Incompetence is rampant. They can't even use their leverage properly.

[DPG21920]

Just as an aside, man the Poor Nets.

This is a team that was widely regarded as one of the teams with the brightest futures this last Summer. Talk about a complete an utter train wreck.

They had a ton of cap space and new billionaire owner willing to spend to win and some nice young pieces. They whiffed massively in FA and ended up giving out some pretty bad little contracts to really terrible players. Then they completely miss out on the trade front so far.

They have to be on like plan Z.

[DesignatedT]

You're a lot higher on Gallinari than I am. I can see him being a really good player, maybe even one who can make an all-star team, but not someone you can build a team around.

Ehh I wouldn't say I'm much higher then that on Gallinari but I definitely wouldn't trade the guy for a draft pick that isn't even guaranteed to be in the top 5.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah Dolan has been retarded for a long long time.

[baseline bum]

If Favors is rumored to be in the deal then that's different. I would do that but I wouldn't get rid of Gallinari and/or Felton for a 1st rounder in a pretty weak draft.

They're supposed to be 2012 picks, and 2012 is going to be a much much better draft most likely. I have read Kyrie Irving is only going to come out this draft if he can get a guarantee he is picked #1 or #2. Harrison Barnes will likely go back for another year to improve his draft stock unless he has a monster NCAA tournament. The HS talent graduating this season is also pretty strong. Plus I see a lot of players staying in school this year with the lockout coming, so you might be some good talent later on next year.

[DPG21920]

If Denver were to keep all the people, I think they are better than some give credit for. They won't though. Like many have said, it is a "given the scenario" type thing where they did well. It will all depend on the other moves they make.

If they can keep Felton/Gallo and turn the other pieces into first rounders, then they will have done as good as you can hope.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Brewer is also going to Denver from Minny

[Ice009]

If I were them I would, but you can't come out and publicly admit that.

I'd keep the players and go for the lottery pick this season. Then next season you can start looking to build and be a perennial playoff team.

I'd like to see how Nene goes at the focal point. He really is a pretty good player. It'd be good if he got more touches.

[MiamiHeat]

Denver did well for themselves, but unfortunately their ceiling is being the WC version of the Hawks

Not even. The Hawks have been a Top 5 team in the East for the past few years, constant playoff appearances.

In the West? Right now Denver is sitting at #7, with Utah right behind at #8.

Spurs, Lakers, Mavs, Blazers, Thunder, Hornets.... now Jazz and the Grizzlies are better teams imo. Maybe even the Suns.

Denver will be lucky to keep their spots and reach the playoffs this season.

[manufan10]

The only reason Denver got away with this is BECAUSE of the LeBron and Bosh situation.

Cleveland and Toronto held on to hope that they would keep their superstars.

Denver just benefited from their experience, plus you can't expect most teams to be as fucking stupid as New York. That front office needs to be purged out. Incompetence is rampant. They can't even use their leverage properly.

I thought that Bosh had made it clear that he didn't intend to resign with the Raptors. Or at least that is what I remembered. Maybe it didn't happen that way.

[DesignatedT]

They're supposed to be 2012 picks, and 2012 is going to be a much much better draft most likely. I have read Kyrie Irving is only going to come out this draft if he can get a guarantee he is picked #1 or #2. Harrison Barnes will likely go back for another year to improve his draft stock unless he has a monster NCAA tournament. The HS talent graduating this season is also pretty strong.

That makes better sense. I would consider sending Chandler and/or Mozgov for a first rounder or something but I still would keep Gallinari and Felton if I was Denver.

[Ice009]

Just as an aside, man the Poor Nets.

This is a team that was widely regarded as one of the teams with the brightest futures this last Summer. Talk about a complete an utter train wreck.

They had a ton of cap space and new billionaire owner willing to spend to win and some nice young pieces. They whiffed massively in FA and ended up giving out some pretty bad little contracts to really terrible players. Then they completely miss out on the trade front so far.

They have to be on like plan Z.

What is New Jersey like? I don't know much about it. Is it their location that is holding them back that no one wants to play there?

[ShoogarBear]

I wouldn't be shocked if after all this, the Knicks are a huge disappointment the second half of the year. Billups isn't exactly a D'Antoni kind of PG. And Anthony and Amar'e aren't exactly a textbook pairing.

[KidCongo]

Does Denver ship off JR Smith now?? He could be a move for a team like the Bulls to make.

[DesignatedT]

So where does Minnesota come into play here? They get Randolph and Curry for what?

[Pistons < Spurs]

So where does Minnesota come into play here? They get Randolph and Curry for what?

Brewer

[Pistons < Spurs]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Nuggets will NOT move Gallo/Mozgov to NJ. "We got these guys to play for the Nuggets," GM Masai Ujiri says. Updated story soon on NBA.com.

[DesignatedT]

I wouldn't be shocked if after all this, the Knicks are a huge disappointment the second half of the year. Billups isn't exactly a D'Antoni kind of PG. And Anthony and Amar'e aren't exactly a textbook pairing.

That's what I'm thinking. This team has a long way to go still IMO.

[MannyIsGod]

Denver wasn't going to win anything with Anthony anyway so this actually works out amazing for them, IMO. Carmelo is at best a Pippen but will never be an MJ.

[manufan10]

Does Denver ship off JR Smith now?? He could be a move for a team like the Bulls to make.

Read on Twitter that more than likely Nene nor JR Smith would be moved.

[coyotes_geek]

does melo fit in with dantonis system? methinks not

Is a guy who is capable of leading the NBA in scoring going to fit in with a coach whose system is to try to lead the NBA in scoring? mehopes you were trying to be sarcastic.

[DesignatedT]

So Denver gets Brewer also. They are definitely loaded on the wing.

[MiamiHeat]

I thought that Bosh had made it clear that he didn't intend to resign with the Raptors. Or at least that is what I remembered. Maybe it didn't happen that way.

Nah, he never said he was leaving. He even pissed off Raptor fans with tweets like "Should I stay or should I go?"

He also scheduled a meeting with the Raptors to give him a presentation, and they left the meeting without a commitment..

[baseline bum]

Denver wasn't going to win anything with Anthony anyway so this actually works out amazing for them, IMO. Carmelo is at best a Pippen but will never be an MJ.

Carmelo is another Dominique. He wishes he was a Pippen. :lol

[baseline bum]

Cleveland fan has to be so pissed getting a lousy trade exception and then seeing what Denver got for a far lesser player.

[Ice009]

Irrelevant since they're moving to NYC in a couple years.

Of course it is relevant. How crappy is New Jersey? Can someone actually comment on it? I'm not from the US so I don't know. Staying there two years might not be preferred at all by most free agents and players.

If they were in Brooklyn right now would that make a difference to free agents?

[manufan10]

Houston wants Nene bad but sources say Denver unlikely to trade Nene or JR Smith before deadline..

[Findog]

What is New Jersey like? I don't know much about it. Is it their location that is holding them back that no one wants to play there?

No, they play in the greater NYC area and they're moving to hipster Brooklyn in a couple of years. They've just never been a glamour franchise the way the Knicks are. Even though the Knicks have been in the shitter for a decade now, they retain a cache and prestige that the Nets have never had. They are the Clippers to the Knicks' Lakers.

[Ice009]

No, they play in the greater NYC area and they're moving to hipster Brooklyn in a couple of years. They've just never been a glamour franchise the way the Knicks are. Even though the Knicks have been in the shitter for a decade now, they retain a cache and prestige that the Nets have never had. They are the Clippers to the Knicks' Lakers.

Thanks for that info. That explains it very well.

[MiamiHeat]

Denver wasn't going to win anything with Anthony anyway so this actually works out amazing for them, IMO. Carmelo is at best a Pippen but will never be an MJ.

Melo has always been clutch when called on.

He was just surrounded with the wrong guys. Denver just didn't build correctly, and had a lot of second rate talent around him. KG suffered the same fate in Minny.... bad organizations ruin the perceptions of great players.

[coyotes_geek]

Originally Posted by Chris_Broussard

Houston wants Nene bad but sources say Denver unlikely to trade Nene or JR Smith before deadline..

A marginally better version of Houston is who Denver just became. A roster full of nice complimentary talent without the one superstar to bring everything together.

[baseline bum]

No, they play in the greater NYC area and they're moving to hipster Brooklyn in a couple of years. They've just never been a glamour franchise the way the Knicks are. Even though the Knicks have been in the shitter for a decade now, they retain a cache and prestige that the Nets have never had. They are the Clippers to the Knicks' Lakers.

I think the Brooklyn move is going to be big for them, but no one wants to play in the empty Izod Center for two years. No doubt they're going to make huge money selling jerseys with "Brooklyn" on the front though; everyone's going to want those. Once that happens, they'll be a glamor franchise.

[MiamiHeat]

Cleveland fan has to be so pissed getting a lousy trade exception and then seeing what Denver got for a far lesser player.

That would make no sense....

LeBron was a FA and Cleveland either facilitated a S/T or watch LeBron sign with Miami outright.

1) get free shit for LeBron in a S/T

2) watch him sign with Miami and you get nothing

Cleveland fans can only complain that they didn't trade LeBron before FA.

[DPG21920]

Also, I like Brewer, but with Wes Johnson and Webster, he wasn't needed and it is better to try and go for a low risk, high upside guy like Randolph.

If Randolph plays close to his potential, Minny will have done really well with some dynamic young guys in Love/Beas/Randolph and they will still have significant cap space.

[HarlemHeat37]

A player like Anthony is difficult to build around..there haven't been many teams in NBA history that have won a title with a guy like Anthony at the top..Kobe, Jordan and Bird were all great scorers, but exceptional passers as well..

Pierce is the only example of a top scorer on a team in the modern NBA that would make a valid example to Anthony, but I don't think Carmelo could be the defender that Pierce was, and the Knicks won't be able to build a roster of that nature..

[Banzai]

So the starting lineup for the Knicks is Billups/Melo/Amare/?/?

[DesignatedT]

wait. So is Brewer going to NY or DEN?

[baseline bum]

That would make no sense....

LeBron was a FA and Cleveland either facilitated a S/T or watch LeBron sign with Miami outright.

1) get free shit for LeBron in a S/T

2) watch him sign with Miami and you get nothing

Cleveland fans can only complain that they didn't trade LeBron before FA.

That's what I meant.

[Nick Manning]

So the starting lineup for the Knicks is Billups/Melo/Amare/?/?

Fields at SG and whomever the flavor of the month is at C

[Mel_13]

wait. So is Brewer going to NY or DEN?

Denver

[DPG21920]

Why the hell did Denver take on Brewer? I really don't understand it. I guess they will not make him the QO and it is like an expiring contract?

Obviously they have to let go or move at least two wings.

[DPG21920]

wait. So is Brewer going to NY or DEN?

Denver.

[HarlemHeat37]

The Nets won't always be 2nd to the Knicks IMO..players are still skeptical about the move to Brooklyn, even though it's guaranteed to happen, at this point, but once the move is made, they will begin to see a turnaround..

It won't be anything like the Clippers-Lakers IMO..

[Findog]

I think the Brooklyn move is going to be big for them, but no one wants to play in the empty Izod Center for two years. No doubt they're going to make huge money selling jerseys with "Brooklyn" on the front though; everyone's going to want those. Once that happens, they'll be a glamor franchise.

Didn't they just move to the new arena the Devils play in?? I know it's temporary until the Brooklyn move is complete, but sharing that arena with the hockey team is a step up from the old Meadowlands arena.

[HarlemHeat37]

Denver has to trade JR Smith at this point, although I don't know which teams would take him on..everybody keeps saying Chicago, but the Bulls would be foolish to make a play for him IMO..

[Pistons < Spurs]

KBerg_CBS Ken Berger
Source says Corey Brewer goes to NY -- not Denver, as in previous version of trade was constructed over weekend.

[Findog]

yeah, they play in the Prudential Center for now:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/02/19/2010-02-19_with_newark_move_nets_ready_to_rock.html

[ElNono]

Didn't they just move to the new arena the Devils play in?? I know it's temporary until the Brooklyn move is complete, but sharing that arena with the hockey team is a step up from the old Meadowlands arena.

Yes, they play in Prudential Center now, home of the Devils

[DesignatedT]

On Sportscenter they said Brewer to NY...

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't they just move to the new arena the Devils play in?? I know it's temporary until the Brooklyn move is complete, but sharing that arena with the hockey team is a step up from the old Meadowlands arena.

It doesn't really matter what they do in NJ, it's a just an overall, shitty area for the NBA, regardless of the arena..a lot of people in the area make excuses for the low attendance rates, but it hasn't changed, despite multiple attempts at luring fans, and multiple NBA Finals trips..

[baseline bum]

Didn't they just move to the new arena the Devils play in?? I know it's temporary until the Brooklyn move is complete, but sharing that arena with the hockey team is a step up from the old Meadowlands arena.

My bad; I thought Izod Center was the building in Newark.

[coyotes_geek]

A player like Anthony is difficult to build around..there haven't been many teams in NBA history that have won a title with a guy like Anthony at the top..Kobe, Jordan and Bird were all great scorers, but exceptional passers as well..

Pierce is the only example of a top scorer on a team in the modern NBA that would make a valid example to Anthony, but I don't think Carmelo could be the defender that Pierce was, and the Knicks won't be able to build a roster of that nature..

TBH I don't think Dolan is even thinking that far down the road. Just get the marquee talent, score a shitload of points (give up just as many) and enjoy being relevant in April. If it comes with a string of 2nd round playoff exits, so be it. It's still better than where they were for the past decade.

[ElNono]

The building in Brooklyn is the Barclays Center

[baseline bum]

Brewer to NY? God, Isiah is such a shithead.

[DPG21920]

Brewer to NY makes a ton more sense. That is a good pick up. Brewer+Melo is obviously better than Chandler+Gallo.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

I think now we will see more moves made now that the Melo Ordeal has been resolved.

The whole spectacle basically froze trade negotiations for every other team in the league.

[Halberto]

New York's impatience screwed them.


EDIT: On second thought, getting rid of Curry nearly makes up for what they lost.

[HarlemHeat37]

TBH I don't think Dolan is even thinking that far down the road. Just get the marquee talent, score a shitload of points (give up just as many) and enjoy being relevant in April. If it comes with a string of 2nd round playoff exits, so be it. It's still better than where they were for the past decade.

Oh, I fully agree, getting Anthony is a great move for the Knicks..there are only a few players that can legitimately anchor a team to a title anyways..

It was just a general comment and observation about Anthony potentially leading the Knicks to a title..

[baseline bum]

Brewer to NY makes a ton more sense. That is a good pick up. Brewer+Melo is obviously better than Chandler+Gallo.

Sequ+Melo is better than Chandler+Gallo too, but I wouldn't offer him a contract.

[DesignatedT]

Brewer to NY makes more sense. I was wondering why Denver wanted another wing player on top of what they have. Brewer brings some D to that NY squad.

[Cry Havoc]

Oh, Brewer to the Knicks?

[DPG21920]

Sequ+Melo is better than Chandler+Gallo too, but I wouldn't offer him a contract.

They probably won't. Or they will sign and trade him. He could end up being a very good glue guy piece imo. Like a Battier was.

[Pistons < Spurs]

So is Turiaf their starting C now?

Or does Amare play the 5 spot?

[Banzai]

Knicks/Boston/Miami/Chicago/Orlando..who comes out?

[DPG21920]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Shelden start. He actually had some very solid stints as the starter in Denver this year.

[Mel_13]

With Brewer going to NY, that means that Denver sent out over 33M in contracts and took back only 16M (possible because Minny rented out their cap space to get Randolph). So they'll improve their bottom line by somewhere between 25-30M this year in salary and tax savings. Keeping Nene and Afflalo shouldn't be a problem now.

[L.I.T]

Quite honestly Brewer to the Knicks sounds more like a Dolan move.

[DJ Mbenga]

brewer better learn to shoot some 3s. good move cause he can help backup fields as a defensive specialist. the knicks are heavy at guards but none of them have real size. at least brewer is 6'7

[coyotes_geek]

Knicks/Boston/Miami/Chicago/Orlando..who comes out?

The knicks have a long ways to go before they deserve to be mentioned with those other 4.

[LakerHater]

So is Turiaf their starting C now?

Or does Amare play the 5 spot?
Didnt A'mare play 5 in Phoenix with D'antoni?

[DPG21920]

This looks like a good deal all around for everyone and the more things come out, the more I like it for NY.

IMO, Shelden>Mozgov. While I think Felton is better than Billups, Billups is good enough. Then Melo+Brewer in place of Gallo+Wilson is a very nice win for NY. Plus, it's not like NY had to take on crazy contracts (except Melo extension which is worth it).

[HarlemHeat37]

Mozgov is easily better than Shelden Williams..his potential has become overrated by Knicks fans, but he definitely has the potential to be a legit starter, and he plays/works hard..he's going to have some success in Denver IMO..

[Jt.ONE]

so is it

billups
fields
melo
shelden
amare

?

[coyotes_geek]

With Brewer going to NY, that means that Denver sent out over 33M in contracts and took back only 16M (possible because Minny rented out their cap space to get Randolph). So they'll improve their bottom line by somewhere between 25-30M this year in salary and tax savings. Keeping Nene and Afflalo shouldn't be a problem now.

Denver's got another $23 mil in expirings between Kmart and JR. Not sure who Denver might think they could get in free agency, but they're looking at having a $MAX contract to offer.

[DPG21920]

Mozgov is easily better than Shelden Williams..his potential has become overrated by Knicks fans, but he definitely has the potential to be a legit starter, and he plays/works hard..he's going to have some success in Denver IMO..

Right now? At this moment? I'll take Shelden. Very underrated player. Clearly not spectacular and he has zero upside, but he can fill in adequately like a Joel Anthony but less blocking and better offense.

[DPG21920]

All I want to know is, is how will this help Al Harrington get more PT so I can get a boost in fantasy.

[Pistons < Spurs]

billups/Toney Douglas
fields/Azubuike/Brewer
melo/Shawne Williams/Bill Walker
shelden/Balkman
amare/Turiaf

[HarlemHeat37]

The Knicks backcourt bench is fine IMO..none of the players are consistent, but guys like Williams, Azu, Douglas and Walker are capable of getting hot..they also have an abundance of athletes on the perimeter..

Their frontcourt depth is atrocious, and that's the problem..Amare will continue to be in foul trouble every game..they need anything at the 5, even a guy like Brendan Haywood(maybe not him, specifically) would be ideal for them..

[Cry Havoc]

Brewer as a 3rd? I would think he'd play in front of Azubuike.

[Crookshanks]

I feel sorry for Chauncey - I don't think he wanted to go to New York. He loved being back in his hometown.

During the ASG last night, Steve Kerr was talking about the whole Carmelo drama and he said he didn't think Amare and Carmelo were suited to play well together. I guess we'll just wait and see.

In other news: The Nets badly want to get rid of Devin Harris and have discussed a three-team with Denver and Dallas that would send Harris to the Mavericks, and bring Felton and Mozgov to New Jersey, sources said.

[DesignatedT]

Knicks need some help on that frontline. Definitely don't like Sheldon,Balkman,Turiaf frontcourt next to Amare. That won't get it done.

[DPG21920]

NY should see if there is anything they could do to get a Nash/Lopez or Polish Hammer (less likely) deal done.

Obviously Billups+Something enticing.

[Jt.ONE]

Hooray, I am back home!


:lol

:toast

[Pistons < Spurs]

Brewer as a 3rd? I would think he'd play in front of Azubuike.

Could go either way, but I get the feeling that coach really likes Azuibuike. And he's supposedly close to returning.

[Nick Manning]

billups/Toney Douglas
fields/Azubuike/Brewer
melo/Shawne Williams/Bill Walker
shelden/Balkman
amare/Turiaf

that's a shitty bench but whatever

[Obstructed_View]

Bruce Bowen is so much better now than when he started at ESPN. He's actually listenable now.

[MiamiHeat]

The Knicks backcourt bench is fine IMO..none of the players are consistent, but guys like Williams, Azu, Douglas and Walker are capable of getting hot..they also have an abundance of athletes on the perimeter..

Their frontcourt depth is atrocious, and that's the problem..Amare will continue to be in foul trouble every game..they need anything at the 5, even a guy like Brendan Haywood(maybe not him, specifically) would be ideal for them..

small steps, one at a time. NY did good. Run with what ya can for now, then shore up problems in the off-season.

[Cry Havoc]

Could go either way, but I get the feeling that coach really likes Azuibuike. And he's supposedly close to returning.

I dunno, the Knicks are going to be a horrible defensive team now... they're going to need people who can slow down the other team.

[Mel_13]

When you plug this trade into ESPN's trade machine, Hollinger's formula says all three teams got worse:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4g2dyww

[DJ Mbenga]

i think williams might start at the 4. although id hope they just do the traditional line up with turiaf at the 5.

[Pistons < Spurs]

I dunno, the Knicks are going to be a horrible defensive team now... they're going to need people who can slow down the other team.

D'Antoni.

[sribb43]

Kahn is a loser in all of this once again. He will go broke paying Curry's food bill

[LakerHater]

So no more Chris Bosh in the All-Star!?

[Cry Havoc]

D'Antoni.

:lmao Well I've been thoroughly owned. :pctoss

[MiamiHeat]

So no more Chris Bosh in the All-Star!?

Doesn't this mean Carmelo is now a reserve in the ASG?

[baseline bum]

Kahn is a loser in all of this once again. He will go broke paying Curry's food bill

I doubt Curry can afford the plane ticket to Minnesota to report.

[Kai]

So no more Chris Bosh in the All-Star!?

No more Pierce

[Cry Havoc]

Jalen Rose: Knicks have the 5th best starting lineup in the NBA


:lmao You can't make this shit up.

[Mr. Body]

Jalen is a damn idiot and has been ever since he signed his name to someone else's SAT scores twenty years ago.

[texas_gator]

all this means is sell outs at msg and a first round MAYBE second round exit...

[DJ Mbenga]

Jalen Rose: Knicks have the 5th best starting lineup in the NBA


:lmao You can't make this shit up.

i thought he said the east. well i was half listening.

[TD 21]

billups/Toney Douglas
fields/Azubuike/Brewer
melo/Shawne Williams/Bill Walker
shelden/Balkman
amare/Turiaf

They're going to sign Barron and potentially Jeffries, once he's inevitably bought out. I expect Mason to be waived to facilitate the Barron signing. If they sign Jeffries, Azubuike and Carter are candidates to be waived.

Stoudemire/Williams (Shawne), Balkman
Anthony/Brewer/Walker
Turiaf/Barron/Williams (Shelden)
Fields/Azubuike
Billups/Douglas/Carter

Sounds like the Nuggets will soon trade Felton and Mozgov to the Nets for two 1st round picks. Nene and Smith are other candidates to be moved (though Brousssard doubts it'll happen now). For now . . .

Martin/Harrington
Gallinari/Chandler/Forbes
Nene/Anderson/Mozgov/Ely
Afflalo/Smith
Felton/Lawson

While I'm at it . . .

Love/Randolph/Tolliver
Beasley/Webster/Hayward
Milicic/Pekovic/Koufas
Johnson/Ellington
Ridnour/Flynn/Telfair

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I feel sorry for Felton. The guy has been playing superbly and had a right to believe he was integral to that team, and now he's going to land with the Nets?! WTF do they need another PG for when they have Harris?

Also, this move probably sank my attempted DL I title defense. :depressed

[DPG21920]

Felton doesn't go to the Nets unless Harris gets moved.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Felton doesn't go to the Nets unless Harris gets moved.

Right, that's what I was thinking, so where's Harris going? Haven't heard that talk.

C'mon Nuggets, hold on to Felton. He's a perfect replacement for Chauncey.

[mingus]

Going to be interesting to see NY. Amare and Melo are perhaps the two best scorers at their position. Douglas Roberts, Billups, and Fields are good role players. Going to be funny to see them try and rebound though. Maybe they get Murphy.

[baseline bum]

I hope Anthony Randolph can do something with his fucking career now that he's out of New York. mono must be really excited about the deal.

[xmas1997]

Harris to Mavs

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Going to be interesting to see NY. Amare and Melo are perhaps the two best scorers at their position. Douglas Roberts, Billups, and Fields are good role players. Going to be funny to see them try and rebound though. Maybe they get Murphy.

Um, how did the Bucks become involved in this? :lol

[mingus]

Sorry what's that dudes name? Can't remember it, but he's good. Bottom line I think they're going to be fun to watch and they still have a solid team.

[mingus]

I wonder I'd RMJ will get PT now

[DesignatedT]

I wonder I'd RMJ will get PT now

dude couldn't even get PT on cleveland right now if the opportunity presented itself.

[DJ Mbenga]

I feel sorry for Felton. The guy has been playing superbly and had a right to believe he was integral to that team, and now he's going to land with the Nets?! WTF do they need another PG for when they have Harris?

Also, this move probably sank my attempted DL I title defense. :depressed

broussard says nuggets dont want to trade them.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

broussard says nuggets dont want to trade them.

First good news I've heard today. Felton should be pretty similar statistically in a Nuggets uniform given that they play with a similarly open and free style. Maybe my team isn't sunk after all! :D

[wanggi]

I'm sure that the Knicks will have the inner gamer against the outer game.
Melo vs. Amare.:lol

[fantasyfootball]

Exciting trade from just a basketball fan's perspective. A marquee player is going to the biggest stage in basketball. That's something I look forward to watching.

For the Nuggets: Good job on milking several assets/pieces from this trade. I think this might be one of those things that's actually a blessing in disguise down the road because Carmelo wasn't going to bring home a championship. They'd end up being a pretender until he was done. This way they can at least try to build around a future star with a better demeanor and willingness to play defense.

For the Knicks: Gave up more than they had to but in the end they got the job done. They had to get Carmelo Anthony out of this because they were otherwise destined to settle for being a cute .550 team (at best) in the East. They're not contenders but at least now they're players. Someone mentioned a good point that Stern pushes stars so they'll get favorable treatment from the league. Also, forget about on the court play, Carmelo will make the Knicks a lot of $$$.

For Carmelo: He somehow managed to pull off acting like he was a victim in a situation he created. If you listened to him talk, it was like the Nuggets wanted to get rid of him and he was some poor pawn caught in a game of front office warfare. I strongly dislike Carmelo - in both what he brings as a player and his personality. He acts like a complete bitch and his game isn't suited for team basketball. As it stands, he's a 1 dimensional player. He can score easily but that's the extent of his abilities. If I was a Nuggets fan, I'd just be glad this bitch was off my team. He's not a winner. To me, winners are guys like Manu, Kobe, Derek Fisher, Duncan, D. Rose, Westbrook, Blake Griffin, and Kevin Durant (not as much lately). These guys remind me of the players from the tough NBA eras when guys were fierce - MJ, Scottie, Karl Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Bird, etc. Nowadays, the soft bitchy guys that look for excuses and don't care 100% about winning like Carmelo, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh litter the league.

NJ Nets: Can't believe the owner went back on his word of not pursuing "Carmela". He didn't seem like that type of guy. I think the Nets got lucky they didn't get him, not that he was ever seriously considering playing for them. Carmelo played with them like a yo-yo. I thought the owner got the message when he said they were done pursuing but guess not.

Overall: Even though I would never want Carmelo on my team, I love this trade because of how live this NBA season feels. The East is going to have a great bracket this year once the losers get weeded out in the first round.

[wanggi]

You guys don't know that Amare is injury-prone? a risky investment?
Fantasy could be vanished in a second.
But, sweet dream seems a better option for Knicks.
Acctually, the Nuggets steal the trade.:toast

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

exactly. Melo and Amare better mesh quick coz Amare's knees will be shot by 2012

[Greg Oden]

nugget fans are desperate.

[Nick Manning]

exactly. Melo and Amare better mesh quick coz Amare's knees will be shot by 2012

That's crazy, bro...where do you get this inside information? What else does the future hold?

[Chillen]

I like this trade for the Knicks, it makes them a potential nightmare for a higher seed in the playoffs. The Nuggets were at risk to lose him for nothing, he was set on becoming a Knick and by trading him they got some pieces back instead of him walking. Denver can still make the playoffs, they did lose a superstar but still have some talent on the roster. The Knicks are now a better team on paper but it will be interesting to see if there are chemistry issues.

[LkrFan]

Ok, I'm late to the party. Kobe and his world-champion Lakers have once again shook up the world. Players are colluding together left and right. First it was Bosh who left Toronto, where he was a 1st option to join D-Whistle. Then it was LeHype who infringed on a then 17-year old Kobe's phrase of taking his talents to the NBA (South Beach) and also joining D-Whistle. Next up was Boozer fleeing the WC for his life by joining up with D Rose in the EC. Then Amare' inked a $100M deal to join the Knicks (expertly guaranteeing to not see Kobe until the Finals - if he ever got that far). Now Melo is running scared.

Anybody I missed? Doesn't matter. I can't blame them though. I wouldn't want to face the champs in a 7 game series either. Newsflash: they can run, but they can't hide. Eventually you will have to come through LA - with or without HCA. :ihit